Monsanto Protection Act
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WHAT THIS MEANS:
The Secretary of Agriculture has the SOLE AUTHORITY to grant temporary non-regulated status to anyone (farmer, corporation, whomever) who asks for it, while they're waiting to hear if they're granted the official non-regulated status. This means they can operate as if they've already been granted their non-regulated status, even though they haven't.
Clear?
Non-regulated means they're not liable for anything.
Something being non-regulated is not the same thing as a company not being liable for damages caused by this non regulated item. Herbal supplements are non regulated however companies have had to pay on lawsuits.
Exactly, I don't you realize the government is going through a damn sequester. Which means cost has to cut in places then the budget organized.
There are A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE NON-REGULATED NOW. It does not mean not liable.
Sensation media, gotta love it.
yeah not exactly, see my response to that post.
I did, still just as ridiculous.0 -
mrphil - question for you.
I assume, as a member of the US Navy that you're a proud Republican (or at least and "independent" who votes R)
you realize that most of the people (most - not all) pissed at Obama right now are liberals right? so... why are you defending the president against liberals?
weird.0 -
WHAT THIS MEANS:
The Secretary of Agriculture has the SOLE AUTHORITY to grant temporary non-regulated status to anyone (farmer, corporation, whomever) who asks for it, while they're waiting to hear if they're granted the official non-regulated status. This means they can operate as if they've already been granted their non-regulated status, even though they haven't.
Clear?
Non-regulated means they're not liable for anything.
Something being non-regulated is not the same thing as a company not being liable for damages caused by this non regulated item. Herbal supplements are non regulated however companies have had to pay on lawsuits.
prove it. the reason they say "consult with your physician before use" and "not intended to treat or cure any disease" and "not evaluated by the FDA" is that YOU'RE responsible and you CAN'T sue Now Foods because you took too much HCl and gave yourself terrible reflux which led to barretts esophagus and esophageal cancer.
you can't. that was on you.
google lawsuits over supplements and you will have all of the proof you need0 -
, seriously, it's sickening. Doesn't Michelle have an ORGANIC garden? Hope & change my foot dude. 0 -
mrphil - question for you.
I assume, as a member of the US Navy that you're a proud Republican (or at least and "independent" who votes R)
you realize that most of the people (most - not all) pissed at Obama right now are liberals right? so... why are you defending the president against liberals?
weird.
Holy crap you assume a lot of things.
No, I am not a damn Republican and I don't care who is pissed at who. I can read on my own.
I didn't even vote "R" or "D"
I didn't even vote for a party.0 -
WHAT THIS MEANS:
The Secretary of Agriculture has the SOLE AUTHORITY to grant temporary non-regulated status to anyone (farmer, corporation, whomever) who asks for it, while they're waiting to hear if they're granted the official non-regulated status. This means they can operate as if they've already been granted their non-regulated status, even though they haven't.
Clear?
Non-regulated means they're not liable for anything.
Something being non-regulated is not the same thing as a company not being liable for damages caused by this non regulated item. Herbal supplements are non regulated however companies have had to pay on lawsuits.
prove it. the reason they say "consult with your physician before use" and "not intended to treat or cure any disease" and "not evaluated by the FDA" is that YOU'RE responsible and you CAN'T sue Now Foods because you took too much HCl and gave yourself terrible reflux which led to barretts esophagus and esophageal cancer.
you can't. that was on you.
google lawsuits over supplements and you will have all of the proof you need
sorry you made the claim, it's your job to back it up.
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mrphil - question for you.
I assume, as a member of the US Navy that you're a proud Republican (or at least and "independent" who votes R)
you realize that most of the people (most - not all) pissed at Obama right now are liberals right? so... why are you defending the president against liberals?
weird.
Holy crap you assume a lot of things.
No, I am not a damn Republican and I don't care who is pissed at who. I can read on my own.
that's why i mentioned independent0 -
mrphil - question for you.
I assume, as a member of the US Navy that you're a proud Republican (or at least and "independent" who votes R)
you realize that most of the people (most - not all) pissed at Obama right now are liberals right? so... why are you defending the president against liberals?
weird.
Holy crap you assume a lot of things.
No, I am not a damn Republican and I don't care who is pissed at who. I can read on my own.
that's why i mentioned independent
I am independent who votes on the person, not the party.
If you really want to know, I didn't vote a "D" or "R"0 -
WHAT THIS MEANS:
The Secretary of Agriculture has the SOLE AUTHORITY to grant temporary non-regulated status to anyone (farmer, corporation, whomever) who asks for it, while they're waiting to hear if they're granted the official non-regulated status. This means they can operate as if they've already been granted their non-regulated status, even though they haven't.
Clear?
Non-regulated means they're not liable for anything.
Something being non-regulated is not the same thing as a company not being liable for damages caused by this non regulated item. Herbal supplements are non regulated however companies have had to pay on lawsuits.
prove it. the reason they say "consult with your physician before use" and "not intended to treat or cure any disease" and "not evaluated by the FDA" is that YOU'RE responsible and you CAN'T sue Now Foods because you took too much HCl and gave yourself terrible reflux which led to barretts esophagus and esophageal cancer.
you can't. that was on you.
google lawsuits over supplements and you will have all of the proof you need
sorry you made the claim, it's your job to back it up.
I just did back it up, do you want me to copy and paste a bunch of links? What does that prove? If you want to be informed then do some real research.0 -
WHAT THIS MEANS:
The Secretary of Agriculture has the SOLE AUTHORITY to grant temporary non-regulated status to anyone (farmer, corporation, whomever) who asks for it, while they're waiting to hear if they're granted the official non-regulated status. This means they can operate as if they've already been granted their non-regulated status, even though they haven't.
Clear?
Non-regulated means they're not liable for anything.
Something being non-regulated is not the same thing as a company not being liable for damages caused by this non regulated item. Herbal supplements are non regulated however companies have had to pay on lawsuits.
prove it. the reason they say "consult with your physician before use" and "not intended to treat or cure any disease" and "not evaluated by the FDA" is that YOU'RE responsible and you CAN'T sue Now Foods because you took too much HCl and gave yourself terrible reflux which led to barretts esophagus and esophageal cancer.
you can't. that was on you.
google lawsuits over supplements and you will have all of the proof you need
sorry you made the claim, it's your job to back it up.
I just did back it up, do you want me to copy and paste a bunch of links? What does that prove? If you want to be informed then do some real research.
ah, now, see backing something up requires some sort of proof now doesn't it? you said "google it"
... well done.0 -
WHAT THIS MEANS:
The Secretary of Agriculture has the SOLE AUTHORITY to grant temporary non-regulated status to anyone (farmer, corporation, whomever) who asks for it, while they're waiting to hear if they're granted the official non-regulated status. This means they can operate as if they've already been granted their non-regulated status, even though they haven't.
Clear?
Non-regulated means they're not liable for anything.
Something being non-regulated is not the same thing as a company not being liable for damages caused by this non regulated item. Herbal supplements are non regulated however companies have had to pay on lawsuits.
prove it. the reason they say "consult with your physician before use" and "not intended to treat or cure any disease" and "not evaluated by the FDA" is that YOU'RE responsible and you CAN'T sue Now Foods because you took too much HCl and gave yourself terrible reflux which led to barretts esophagus and esophageal cancer.
you can't. that was on you.
google lawsuits over supplements and you will have all of the proof you need
sorry you made the claim, it's your job to back it up.
I just did back it up, do you want me to copy and paste a bunch of links? What does that prove? If you want to be informed then do some real research.
:drinker: :flowerforyou: :drinker:0 -
mrphil - question for you.
I assume, as a member of the US Navy that you're a proud Republican (or at least and "independent" who votes R)
you realize that most of the people (most - not all) pissed at Obama right now are liberals right? so... why are you defending the president against liberals?
weird.
Holy crap you assume a lot of things.
No, I am not a damn Republican and I don't care who is pissed at who. I can read on my own.
that's why i mentioned independent
I am independent who votes on the person, not the party.
If you really want to know, I didn't vote a "D" or "R"
that explains it. so you're for deregulating everything right? small government?
should we deregulate pharmaceutical drugs?0 -
WHAT THIS MEANS:
The Secretary of Agriculture has the SOLE AUTHORITY to grant temporary non-regulated status to anyone (farmer, corporation, whomever) who asks for it, while they're waiting to hear if they're granted the official non-regulated status. This means they can operate as if they've already been granted their non-regulated status, even though they haven't.
Clear?
Non-regulated means they're not liable for anything.
Something being non-regulated is not the same thing as a company not being liable for damages caused by this non regulated item. Herbal supplements are non regulated however companies have had to pay on lawsuits.
prove it. the reason they say "consult with your physician before use" and "not intended to treat or cure any disease" and "not evaluated by the FDA" is that YOU'RE responsible and you CAN'T sue Now Foods because you took too much HCl and gave yourself terrible reflux which led to barretts esophagus and esophageal cancer.
you can't. that was on you.
google lawsuits over supplements and you will have all of the proof you need
sorry you made the claim, it's your job to back it up.
I just did back it up, do you want me to copy and paste a bunch of links? What does that prove? If you want to be informed then do some real research.
ah, now, see backing something up requires some sort of proof now doesn't it? you said "google it"
... well done.
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I'm just here for the gifs :drinker:
...and also to say that just because one is in the military does not automatically mean they are R . That's like saying doctors must not smoke because they're doctors...yeah, not so much.0 -
WHAT THIS MEANS:
The Secretary of Agriculture has the SOLE AUTHORITY to grant temporary non-regulated status to anyone (farmer, corporation, whomever) who asks for it, while they're waiting to hear if they're granted the official non-regulated status. This means they can operate as if they've already been granted their non-regulated status, even though they haven't.
Clear?
Non-regulated means they're not liable for anything.
Something being non-regulated is not the same thing as a company not being liable for damages caused by this non regulated item. Herbal supplements are non regulated however companies have had to pay on lawsuits.
prove it. the reason they say "consult with your physician before use" and "not intended to treat or cure any disease" and "not evaluated by the FDA" is that YOU'RE responsible and you CAN'T sue Now Foods because you took too much HCl and gave yourself terrible reflux which led to barretts esophagus and esophageal cancer.
you can't. that was on you.
Thank You so much. NOt to you reddy for your once again stupid ignorant comment. But to someone who actually has a clue of what they are talking about.
Am I a lawyer? No. Do i interpret techincal financial regulation as a part of my job everyday? Yes. Do financial companies get sued for non regulated products that went defunct in 2009? Yes. Does every investment company make people sign 30-40 pages of disclosures outlining products and risks and the investors has to acknowledge they can lose everything and are comfortable and understand that. Did that stop people from suing and winning? No.
Supplement Lawsuits. Non regulated by the FDA. From a half assed google search. Didn't look hard enough so a few may actually be FDA approved. THere is even a nice homeopathic one in there for ya.
http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/04/news/companies/airborne_settlement/
http://www.enzymesettlement.com/Documents/Detailed Notice.pdf
http://www.casewatch.org/civil/herbalife/complaint.shtml
http://theclassactionlawsuit.com/c4-m5-and-n0-extreme-supplement-class-action-settlement/
http://www.topclassactions.com/open/1518-target-immunity-supplement-class-action-lawsuit-settlement
http://www.schmidtandclark.com/homeopathic-class-action-lawsuit-settlement
http://www.bigclassaction.com/lawsuit/akavar-20-50-weight-loss-supplement-class-action.php0 -
mrphil - question for you.
I assume, as a member of the US Navy that you're a proud Republican (or at least and "independent" who votes R)
you realize that most of the people (most - not all) pissed at Obama right now are liberals right? so... why are you defending the president against liberals?
weird.
Holy crap you assume a lot of things.
No, I am not a damn Republican and I don't care who is pissed at who. I can read on my own.
that's why i mentioned independent
I am independent who votes on the person, not the party.
If you really want to know, I didn't vote a "D" or "R"
that explains it. so you're for deregulating everything right? small government?
should we deregulate pharmaceutical drugs?
Same response: 0 -
alright fine - NewLifeStyle4 made a good point a while back
what do YOU guys think the law says? forget all the rest of this tangential BS.0 -
WHAT THIS MEANS:
The Secretary of Agriculture has the SOLE AUTHORITY to grant temporary non-regulated status to anyone (farmer, corporation, whomever) who asks for it, while they're waiting to hear if they're granted the official non-regulated status. This means they can operate as if they've already been granted their non-regulated status, even though they haven't.
Clear?
Non-regulated means they're not liable for anything.
Something being non-regulated is not the same thing as a company not being liable for damages caused by this non regulated item. Herbal supplements are non regulated however companies have had to pay on lawsuits.
prove it. the reason they say "consult with your physician before use" and "not intended to treat or cure any disease" and "not evaluated by the FDA" is that YOU'RE responsible and you CAN'T sue Now Foods because you took too much HCl and gave yourself terrible reflux which led to barretts esophagus and esophageal cancer.
you can't. that was on you.
google lawsuits over supplements and you will have all of the proof you need
sorry you made the claim, it's your job to back it up.
I just did back it up, do you want me to copy and paste a bunch of links? What does that prove? If you want to be informed then do some real research.
ah, now, see backing something up requires some sort of proof now doesn't it? you said "google it"
... well done.
Fine, here is a link from a law firm taking cases against makers of dietary supplements http://www.kerrysteigerwalt.com/public/defectivedrugs/dietarysupplements.html
Do you need more links?
How about
http://www.jag-lawfirm.com/problems-with-supplements.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/14/business/death-after-use-of-jack3d-shows-gap-in-regulation.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
http://www.bigclassaction.com/settlement/110m-settlement-in-e-ferol-vitamin-supplement.php
How about does Ephedra ring a bell?
http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/settlements/05009/ephedra_settlement.html#.UVUcBhyvyLg0 -
alright fine - NewLifeStyle4 made a good point a while back
what do YOU guys think the law says? forget all the rest of this tangential BS.
I don't think anything. I just read it.0 -
alright fine - NewLifeStyle4 made a good point a while back
what do YOU guys think the law says? forget all the rest of this tangential BS.
Here is an interpretation of the law from another perspective
http://blog.skepticallibertarian.com/2013/03/28/monsanto-protection-act-anti-gmo-conspiracy-theorists-lose-it-over-minor-deregulation/
I think what we really need is to find a legal interpretation since all of the interpretations I an find seem to be self serving rather that truth seeking.0 -
alright fine - NewLifeStyle4 made a good point a while back
what do YOU guys think the law says? forget all the rest of this tangential BS.
Here is an interpretation of the law from another perspective
http://blog.skepticallibertarian.com/2013/03/28/monsanto-protection-act-anti-gmo-conspiracy-theorists-lose-it-over-minor-deregulation/
I think what we really need is to find a legal interpretation since all of the interpretations I an find seem to be self serving rather that truth seeking.
i agree with that0 -
alright fine - NewLifeStyle4 made a good point a while back
what do YOU guys think the law says? forget all the rest of this tangential BS.
I don't think anything. I just read it.
that's weird. you don't form any opinion? you don't interpret its meaning? if you don't have any thoughts on the bill why are you posting in here?0 -
alright fine - NewLifeStyle4 made a good point a while back
what do YOU guys think the law says? forget all the rest of this tangential BS.
Here is an interpretation of the law from another perspective
http://blog.skepticallibertarian.com/2013/03/28/monsanto-protection-act-anti-gmo-conspiracy-theorists-lose-it-over-minor-deregulation/
I think what we really need is to find a legal interpretation since all of the interpretations I an find seem to be self serving rather that truth seeking.
I'm not a professional in interpreting environmental law or one of Reddy's "experts" (blog writer), but I fully expect the truth to be closer to that that the quack factory version0 -
alright fine - NewLifeStyle4 made a good point a while back
what do YOU guys think the law says? forget all the rest of this tangential BS.
I don't think anything. I just read it.
that's weird. you don't form any opinion? you don't interpret its meaning? if you don't have any thoughts on the bill why are you posting in here?
I read it, the letters form words and I know what the words mean. I'm not sure what is hard about that.
I don't need an outside source to tell me what they think those words mean.0 -
Can we not get at each other please. I simply chose to ignore all the digs at me, so can you.
It's called biotechnology if you look on the agencies website. - EPA, USDA, APHIS and FDA all have a hand in regulation and non-regulation of food and crops.
It gives them 6 months of protection. until "studies" are completed.. by then the market will be flooded, just like the soybean. Would almost put money on an "extension" being granted....0 -
A few aspects of GMO that haven't been mentioned here yet is the safety of our food supply.
1. Monsanto has introduced "killer genes" into it's seeds. Once the crop is harvested, the seed from the harvest cannot be saved and replanted next season because it is now dead, unable to reproduce. Monsanto now gets to sell its special seeds all over again to the farmer that used to be able to save seeds.
2. Bees....
3. They now have a genetically altered salmon that, if accidentally is released into the wild will cross with natural salmon. It is said that if this happens, salmon as we know it will be extinct in 20 years.
4. Some seeds made by Monsanto are designed to withstand heavy doses of herbicide. An unaltered crop would die from this heavy dose of herbicide, but not Monsanto's miracle crop. And guess who gets to eat all that herbicide? Naturally, a new super weed is developing - survival of the fittest - and so even more herbicide needs to be dumped on our food.
The Center for Food Safety is an organization that fights for farmers and consumers rights against the GMO industry. It's through their website and emails that I know when to contact my representatives and voice my opinion. http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/0 -
i'm asking YOU what YOU think they mean!alright fine - NewLifeStyle4 made a good point a while back
what do YOU guys think the law says? forget all the rest of this tangential BS.
I don't think anything. I just read it.
that's weird. you don't form any opinion? you don't interpret its meaning? if you don't have any thoughts on the bill why are you posting in here?
I read it, the letters form words and I know what the words mean. I'm not sure what is hard about that.
I don't need an outside source to tell me what they think those words mean.0 -
i'm asking YOU what YOU think they mean!alright fine - NewLifeStyle4 made a good point a while back
what do YOU guys think the law says? forget all the rest of this tangential BS.
I don't think anything. I just read it.
that's weird. you don't form any opinion? you don't interpret its meaning? if you don't have any thoughts on the bill why are you posting in here?
I read it, the letters form words and I know what the words mean. I'm not sure what is hard about that.
I don't need an outside source to tell me what they think those words mean.
Here, I'll help you out.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/0 -
i'm asking YOU what YOU think they mean!alright fine - NewLifeStyle4 made a good point a while back
what do YOU guys think the law says? forget all the rest of this tangential BS.
I don't think anything. I just read it.
that's weird. you don't form any opinion? you don't interpret its meaning? if you don't have any thoughts on the bill why are you posting in here?
I read it, the letters form words and I know what the words mean. I'm not sure what is hard about that.
I don't need an outside source to tell me what they think those words mean.
Here, I'll help you out.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/
wow. you're a winner. so you have no idea what the law actually says. you claim you don't need an outside source to inform you, but yet you can't even tell me what you think it means.
i gotta hand it to you, you have earned your hat.0 -
i'm asking YOU what YOU think they mean!alright fine - NewLifeStyle4 made a good point a while back
what do YOU guys think the law says? forget all the rest of this tangential BS.
I don't think anything. I just read it.
that's weird. you don't form any opinion? you don't interpret its meaning? if you don't have any thoughts on the bill why are you posting in here?
I read it, the letters form words and I know what the words mean. I'm not sure what is hard about that.
I don't need an outside source to tell me what they think those words mean.
Here, I'll help you out.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/
wow. you're a winner. so you have no idea what the law actually says. you claim you don't need an outside source to inform you, but yet you can't even tell me what you think it means.
i gotta hand it to you, you have earned your hat.
Do you even know what "Tinfoil Hat" even means?
Pretty sure you don't have the slightest clue.0
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