Monsanto Protection Act

neanderthin

I dont normally jump on the GMO bandwagon because I'm under the belief we have been engineering our food since we learned how to put seeds in the ground.

However, to remove culpability is scary I'll have to read this more.

The GMO is a little worrisome because it is actually modifying the DNA of the seed in a laboratory. The cross breeding I'm not worried about because this type of cross breeding. Has been done by nature for thousands of years.

Especially when their using DNA from the animal kingdom.

CoachReddy

I dont normally jump on the GMO bandwagon because I'm under the belief we have been engineering our food since we learned how to put seeds in the ground.

However, to remove culpability is scary I'll have to read this more.

The GMO is a little worrisome because it is actually modifying the DNA of the seed in a laboratory. The cross breeding I'm not worried about because this type of cross breeding. Has been done by nature for thousands of years.

Especially when their using DNA from the animal kingdom.

dude go ahead and eat your GMO foods and let the government tell you what you should be eating.

I'd prefer to have a choice.

neanderthin

I dont normally jump on the GMO bandwagon because I'm under the belief we have been engineering our food since we learned how to put seeds in the ground.

However, to remove culpability is scary I'll have to read this more.

The GMO is a little worrisome because it is actually modifying the DNA of the seed in a laboratory. The cross breeding I'm not worried about because this type of cross breeding. Has been done by nature for thousands of years.

the thing with cross-breeding - even if its not GMO - is that our bodies still don't know what to do with it. we've bred wheat to be shorter, heartier and more dense so that it is protected against insects/pesticides/etc/etc, but that same cross-breeding makes it harder for us to digest. so no, there's not GMO wheat, but that doesn't mean the wheat we're eating today looks anything like the wheat we ate 50 years ago, and the human body can't adapt like that over a 50 year period. It'll take thousands for us to adapt to the wheat we're eating now, and once that happens we'll probably all have blown ourselves up anyway.

Time for some toast, it makes it easier to digest, especially with some organic butter.

CoachReddy

I dont normally jump on the GMO bandwagon because I'm under the belief we have been engineering our food since we learned how to put seeds in the ground.

However, to remove culpability is scary I'll have to read this more.

The GMO is a little worrisome because it is actually modifying the DNA of the seed in a laboratory. The cross breeding I'm not worried about because this type of cross breeding. Has been done by nature for thousands of years.

the thing with cross-breeding - even if its not GMO - is that our bodies still don't know what to do with it. we've bred wheat to be shorter, heartier and more dense so that it is protected against insects/pesticides/etc/etc, but that same cross-breeding makes it harder for us to digest. so no, there's not GMO wheat, but that doesn't mean the wheat we're eating today looks anything like the wheat we ate 50 years ago, and the human body can't adapt like that over a 50 year period. It'll take thousands for us to adapt to the wheat we're eating now, and once that happens we'll probably all have blown ourselves up anyway.

Time for some toast, it makes it easier to digest, especially with some organic butter.

regarding what this DID say before you edited - the phrase "whole grain" refers to non-milled, non-processed grains that are still intact.

it's very, very difficult for us to digest said grains.

Confuzzled4ever

*sigh*

I wash and vinegar wash my fruits and veggies.. I'm not ignorant to how crops are cultivated.. i grew up doing it.

You may play devils advocate all you want, but if your basis of argument is *you are ignorant because your view is different then mine* then really exit the thread now as you bring nothing to this conversation..

My views may be too "radical" for you, but they are just as valid.

Anyway.. regarding the GMO.. I want the choice of what I put into my body to be mine and I want the constitutionally protected right to initiate due process if something someone else does to me, esp if it's not disclosed and/or without my knowledge, harms me. I'm not naive enough to think that enough people will speak out in order to change things.. Unfortunately people have been taught by the government that their voice doesn't matter. If the entire country would exercise their right to vote we'd have a different country. If people would exercise their right to petition and peacefully assemble and do it correctly we might see a change. Of course. he already signed into law HR 347 restricting this right.. although he didn't have the authority to do so.

Also.. we don't know what they inject into the seeds? What if it's something with fish oil? (i'm allergic, to impure fish oil) I can't go after them? (Of course i doubt that would be in there.. but my point is the same)

Wake up.

CoachReddy

*sigh*

I wash and vinegar wash my fruits and veggies.. I'm not ignorant to how crops are cultivated.. i grew up doing it.

You may play devils advocate all you want, but if your basis of argument is *you are ignorant because your view is different then mine* then really exit the thread now as you bring nothing to this conversation..

My views may be too "radical" for you, but they are just as valid.

Anyway.. regarding the GMO.. I want the choice of what I put into my body to be mine and I want the constitutionally protected right to initiate due process if something someone else does to me, esp if it's not disclosed and/or without my knowledge, harms me. I'm not naive enough to think that enough people will speak out in order to change things.. Unfortunately people have been taught by the government that their voice doesn't matter. If the entire country would exercise their right to vote we'd have a different country. If people would exercise their right to petition and peacefully assemble and do it correctly we might see a change. Of course. he already signed into law HR 347 restricting this right.. although he didn't have the authority to do so.

Also.. we don't know what they inject into the seeds? What if it's something with fish oil? (i'm allergic) I can't go after them? (Of course i doubt that would be in there.. but my point is the same)

Wake up.

:drinker:

EdwarddeVere

oh boy...

chosengiver

Bump for later!

ILiftHeavyAcrylics

Interested in reading both sides of this discussion.

mrphil86

NewLIFEstyle4ME

CoachReddy

And it looks good on you.

etoiles_argentees

And it looks good on you.

I hope you're not talking to me... No ONE but taso is allowed to tinfoil my head.

Oh, btw, talk to a friend that works at Whole Foods and learn what is sprayed on that fresh produce every night. Gotta keep it fresh!

dinosnopro

I know this is a diet and fitness site ( and I did not go through every page of this thread ) but I don't think anyone has covered this part of the equation. They need more yield out of these crops. Corn = ethanol, soybeans = biodiesel. Using food for fuel is poor choice IMHO.

mrphil86

The facts are?

CoachReddy

The facts are?

that Monsanto is now protected from any liability or culpability if it turns out that GMO foods aren't good for us, even though they refuse to test them before releasing them into the marketplace.

how would you feel if a law were passed that said new drugs didn't have to go through testing before being placed on the market, and the manufacturers were protected from any liability for whatever negative effects those drugs may have?

who's wearing the tinfoil hat?

mrphil86

Exactly where does it say that?

NewLIFEstyle4ME

The facts are?

“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
― John Adams

For every fact there is an infinity of hypotheses. ”
― Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values

“If you're searching for the truth, throw out all your prejudices and just gather the facts. If you do that, you'll be able to see the real truth.”
― CLAMP


"Those convinced against their will are of the same opinion still"--Dale Carnegie

CoachReddy

Exactly where does it say that?

In the event that a determination of non-
8
regulated status made pursuant to section 411 of the Plant
9
Protection Act is or has been invalidated or vacated, the
10
Secretary of Agriculture shall, notwithstanding any other
11
provision of law, upon request by a farmer, grower, farm
12
operator, or producer, immediately grant temporary per-
13
mit(s) or temporary deregulation in part, subject to nec-
14
essary and appropriate conditions consistent with section
15
411(a) or 412(c) of the Plant Protection Act, which interim
16
conditions shall authorize the movement, introduction, con-
17
tinued cultivation, commercialization and other specifically
18
enumerated activities and requirements, including meas-
19
ures designed to mitigate or minimize potential adverse en-
20
vironmental effects, if any, relevant to the Secretary’s eval-
21
uation of the petition for non-regulated status, while ensur-
22
ing that growers or other users are able to move, plant, cul-
23
tivate, introduce into commerce and carry out other author-
24
ized activities in a timely manner: Provided, That all such
25
conditions shall be applicable only for the interim period
1
necessary for the Secretary to complete any required anal-
2
yses or consultations related to the petition for non-regu-
3
lated status: Provided further, That nothing in this section
4
shall be construed as limiting the Secretary’s authority
5
under section 411, 412 and 414 of the Plant Protection Act.

what that means, is that 'The "Monsanto Protection Act" effectively bars federal courts from being able to halt the sale or planting of controversial genetically modified (aka GMO) or genetically engineered (GE) seeds, no matter what health issues may arise concerning GMOs in the future. The advent of genetically modified seeds -- which has been driven by the massive Monsanto Company -- and their exploding use in farms across America came on fast and has proved a huge boon for Monsanto's profits.'

edited to add full text of law

ryry_

Overreacting.

In what world?

Did you actually read the act or the over blown sensational news story?

I'm going to have to agree with the Overreacting. After reading to applicable part of the bill, all it seems to do is prevent a shut down of growing crops on an interim basis while a review is done. It doesn't protect them if they actually determine it's harmful. However, if something comes out that opens up some kind of review, it does protect them from being shut down while the review is ongoing.

I'm not a lawyer, but again I dont think the original post painted a balanced picture.