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  • chessgeekdavidb
    chessgeekdavidb Posts: 208 Member
    Did you know wheat has been altered genetically over they years?


    Hahahahaha there is no commercial GMO wheat. Wheat has been crossbreed for thousands of years but there is no "genetically altered" wheat unless you mean normal crossbreeding.
  • marypatmccue
    marypatmccue Posts: 521 Member
    Could someone with the appropriate talents add a tin foil hat to this chicken's head for me?

    Thanks,

    chick1.jpg

    It's not perfect... but here!

    Fancy, Tin Foil Chicky!
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  • Mlkmaid
    Mlkmaid Posts: 356 Member
    If you feel better when you stop drinking milk or eating dairy then chances are you're allergic to it or have some kind of lactose iintolerance going on. And your statement is completely misleading because it's not the DAIRY itself, but the FAT in the dairy that has the health consequences. Everything in moderation is best.
  • sullus
    sullus Posts: 2,839 Member
    pasteurized dairy IS inflammatory no matter what some people may think. My nephew had chronic ear infections and eczema as a toddler and an ND suggested we try no dairy as he was supposed to get tubes put in next. He's dairy free and symptomless. Thank God the stopped vaccinating the **** out of him too!

    Um, my daughter has dairy allergies as well. She just doesn't consume dairy, the END. Just because I'm her mom doesn't mean I need to stop consuming it too :noway:

    :::Excuse me::: I mean to say 'dairy intolerance' among other food intolerances. The point is, just because her body reacts this way to this particular thing, doesn't mean everyone in the world will DIE of milk.

    Of course they won't, but you're still consuming denatured protein that inflames your insides. I still eat dairy as well (I'm picking my battles) but there is no disputing it; it's inflammatory.

    I'm pretty sure that 90% of the protein we eat is denatured, and the rest is denatured as soon as it hits our stomachs

    No to either.

    Denaturing is just the unfolding of the protein molecule. Most of the protein we eat is not denatured. Nor does it magically denature in our stomachs upon entering it - this goes on over the entire digestion process in the stomach and upper colon.

    Protein denaturing is part of the inflammatory response - by unfolding proteins make available adhesion sites for intermediate adhesion molecules involved in the response. However, consuming protein does not necessarily result in an inflammatory response. That is very incorrect and a case of improper generalization.

    By the way, some protein denaturing is reversible in the gut. This is one of the reasons rabbits eat their poop - they have a deficiency in producing biotin, it's efficient for them to eat what you excrete. Don't try that at home, kids.

    Proteins are denatured by cooking them or putting them in acid (among other things)

    Like an egg. The white turns firm and white instead of clear and liquid because the proteins have been denatured. This is a denaturing that is not reversible, but some denaturings are.

    If it's cooked - most of the proteins are denatured.
  • marypatmccue
    marypatmccue Posts: 521 Member
    chickenlittletinfoil.jpg

    Yours is much better!
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    Protein denaturing is part of the inflammatory response - by unfolding proteins make available adhesion sites for intermediate adhesion molecules involved in the response. However, consuming protein does not necessarily result in an inflammatory response. That is very incorrect and a case of improper generalization.

    What you just described sounds an awful lot like digestion.

    By the way, some protein denaturing is reversible in the gut. This is one of the reasons rabbits eat their poop - they have a deficiency in producing biotin, it's efficient for them to eat what you excrete. Don't try that at home, kids.

    :sick:
  • geebusuk
    geebusuk Posts: 3,348 Member
    Even some of the good stuff. Like Broccoli, Cauliflower, Kale and others - they're all just GMO cabbage.
    Cheers - I'll remember that next time someone offers me some :D.

    "No, not touching any of your genetically modified cabbage!"

    (I dislike all of them, as you may guess and would far from consider them 'good'!)
  • sullus
    sullus Posts: 2,839 Member
    Even some of the good stuff. Like Broccoli, Cauliflower, Kale and others - they're all just GMO cabbage.
    Cheers - I'll remember that next time someone offers me some :D.

    "No, not touching any of your genetically modified cabbage!"

    (I dislike all of them, as you may guess and would far from consider them 'good'!)

    I meant good like .. it's currently believed that if you eat kale, you will become immortal, or something.
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    Even some of the good stuff. Like Broccoli, Cauliflower, Kale and others - they're all just GMO cabbage.
    Cheers - I'll remember that next time someone offers me some :D.

    "No, not touching any of your genetically modified cabbage!"

    (I dislike all of them, as you may guess and would far from consider them 'good'!)

    I meant good like .. it's currently believed that if you eat kale, you will become immortal, or something.

    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

    I don't know why, but kale just suddenly became more appealing... I'm hangerin' for some kale!
  • shosho420
    shosho420 Posts: 220 Member
    Everyone with common sense already knows these things, unfortunately common sense is hard to come by in this place.

    GMO? buy organic hahahahahahaha lol derp duh

    http://www.nutrition-and-you.com/kale.html
  • chessgeekdavidb
    chessgeekdavidb Posts: 208 Member
    Even some of the good stuff. Like Broccoli, Cauliflower, Kale and others - they're all just GMO cabbage.
    Cheers - I'll remember that next time someone offers me some :D.

    "No, not touching any of your genetically modified cabbage!"

    (I dislike all of them, as you may guess and would far from consider them 'good'!)

    I meant good like .. it's currently believed that if you eat kale, you will become immortal, or something.

    I don't remember seeing kale on mt. Olympus.
  • geebusuk
    geebusuk Posts: 3,348 Member
    I meant good like .. it's currently believed that if you eat kale, you will become immortal, or something.
    Maybe it starts to genetically modify (sic) you in to one of those Jelly Fish that live for ever?

    I always wanted to be immortal; but not as a Jelly Fish, so another good reason to avoid it!
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    If you feel better when you stop drinking milk or eating dairy then chances are you're allergic to it or have some kind of lactose iintolerance going on. And your statement is completely misleading because it's not the DAIRY itself, but the FAT in the dairy that has the health consequences. Everything in moderation is best.

    Fat causes lactose intolerance? I thought lactose was a sugar. Whatdoiknowthethingsyoulearnonmfp.
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    If you feel better when you stop drinking milk or eating dairy then chances are you're allergic to it or have some kind of lactose iintolerance going on. And your statement is completely misleading because it's not the DAIRY itself, but the FAT in the dairy that has the health consequences. Everything in moderation is best.

    Fat causes lactose intolerance? I thought lactose was a sugar. Whatdoiknowthethingsyoulearnonmfp.

    :flowerforyou:

    I stalk you on the forums because of answers like these.
  • drefaw
    drefaw Posts: 739
    More bro science B S ...

    When I was in the best shape of my life, I drank form 1/2 to a full gal of WHOLE milk a day.

    6'2"
    235 lbs
    about 6% bf
    32" waist
    48-50" chest
    27" thighs
    My arms and forearms where so thick and cut everybody called me Popeye at the gyms .....

    I grew up drinking milk from the holding tank. So, don't give me milk causes all these ailments B S ... 'cause that is all it is ... B S - bro science

    Some people ARE allergic to it... I will give you that, and it prob does do most of that crap to people that are allergic to it .......
    But not everyone is allergic to it .....

    I LOVE milk !!!!
  • marypatmccue
    marypatmccue Posts: 521 Member
    If you feel better when you stop drinking milk or eating dairy then chances are you're allergic to it or have some kind of lactose iintolerance going on. And your statement is completely misleading because it's not the DAIRY itself, but the FAT in the dairy that has the health consequences. Everything in moderation is best.

    Fat causes lactose intolerance? I thought lactose was a sugar. Whatdoiknowthethingsyoulearnonmfp.

    :flowerforyou:

    Being that I'm lactose intolerant... yeah - It's the Lactose in the milk products... not the fat.
    Good news, you can get lactose free milk and yogurt...
    I love milk fat... and fat in general. Why does everyone have hatred towards fat?
  • sisterlilbunny
    sisterlilbunny Posts: 686 Member
    *adjusts tinfoil hat* In before the break. Someone tell me when the peer-reviewed science stuff actually takes place.

    *goes back to eating turkey and swiss sandwich*
  • etoiles_argentees
    etoiles_argentees Posts: 2,827 Member
    The China Study
    Welcome to the Official Roundup Page for all my blog posts pertaining to T. Colin Campbell’s “The China Study.” If you’re interested in seeing a critical examination of the claims in this book, I encourage you to read either the first or second link and links 3 and 4, which contain a great deal of new information not included in my original critique.

    1. The China Study: Fact or Fallacy? (My original critique of “The China Study” by T. Colin Campbell.)

    2. The China Study: A Formal Analysis and Response (A referenced, uber-long, and cleaned-up collection of my original China Study criticisms—more academic and less colloquial, for anyone who prefers the former. This is a response to Campbell’s reply to my critique.)

    3. Forks Over Knives: Is the Science Legit? (A critique of the science behind “Forks Over Knives,” a documentary heavily featuring Campbell and his work. Read this if you want to know more about Campbell’s rat research with casein and aflatoxin.)

    4. One Year Later: The China Study, Revisited and Re-Bashed (A collection of peer-reviewed studies based on the China Study data that contradict Campbell’s interpretations and claims.)

    5. The China Study, Wheat, and Heart Disease: Oh My! (An in-depth statistical analysis of wheat flour and heart disease in the China Study data.)

    6. The China Study: My Response to Campbell (My response to Campbell’s first reply to my critique.)

    7. Tuoli: China’s Mysterious Milk Drinkers (Information on the health of a Chinese county that eats nearly two pounds of dairy, ample fat, and 134 grams of animal protein per day.)

    8. A Closer Look at the China Study: Meat and Disease (Associations the “meat” variable has with various diseases in China.)

    9. A Closer Look at the China Study: Fish and Disease (Associations the “fish” variable has with various diseases in China.)

    10. A Closer Look at the China Study: Eggs and Disease (Associations the “eggs” variable has with various diseases in China.)

    11. A Closer Look at the China Study: Dairy and Disease (Associations the “dairy” variable has with various diseases in China.)


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  • Iron_Feline
    Iron_Feline Posts: 10,750 Member
    *adjusts tinfoil hat* In before the break. Someone tell me when the peer-reviewed science stuff actually takes place.

    *goes back to eating turkey and swiss sandwich*

    It's never gonna happen - I've been waiting for ages and have asked several times. :sad:
  • theCarlton
    theCarlton Posts: 1,344 Member
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  • Kmanouchehri90
    Kmanouchehri90 Posts: 81 Member
    Does anyone else think it is weird we drink the breast milk from a different species?
  • Iron_Feline
    Iron_Feline Posts: 10,750 Member
    Does anyone else think it is weird we drink the breast milk from a different species?

    Nope, we eat the meat, why not drink the milk.

    Tasty tasty pizza btw. :love:
  • chessgeekdavidb
    chessgeekdavidb Posts: 208 Member
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    That will kill you :wink: :laugh: :tongue:
  • Snapper1985
    Snapper1985 Posts: 124 Member
    Dairy is linked to:
    Acne
    Arthritis
    Asthma
    Autism
    Breast Cancer
    Colon Cancer
    Constipation
    Cramps
    Depression
    Diabetes
    Diarrhea
    Ear Infections
    Eczema
    Emphysema
    Headaches
    High Cholesterol
    Hyperactivity
    Increased mucus
    AND YES OSTEOPOROSIS

    Watch this video: tobecrude.wordpress.com/

    People with these conditions drink water and breathe air. So water and air are linked to:
    Acne
    Arthritis
    Asthma
    Autism
    Breast Cancer
    Colon Cancer
    Constipation
    Cramps
    Depression
    Diabetes
    Diarrhea
    Ear Infections
    Eczema
    Emphysema
    Headaches
    High Cholesterol
    Hyperactivity
    Increased mucus
    AND YES OSTEOPOROSIS
  • helyla
    helyla Posts: 162 Member
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    OMG that looks delicious....drooling....
  • nytius
    nytius Posts: 173 Member
    If I listen to every person on MFP who list what's wrong with every food item , then I would never eat. Stay under your calorie limit, exercise, and stop stressing.

    This...1,000 times. *SLOW CLAP*
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    Does anyone else think it is weird we drink the breast milk from a different species?

    It be weird if we had momma burgers.
  • 2ht2hand1e
    2ht2hand1e Posts: 116 Member
    What a coincidence. These ailments are also linked to breathing. It's time we start holding our breath.
  • Cr01502
    Cr01502 Posts: 3,614 Member
    I don't know what "sho cheep" means, but if its from oats... it's not milk.

    Thank you
    I wondered that, too... Perhaps she meant so cheap?

    I think she did too.

    She's Asian and has an accent.

    Don't be rude.
  • Cr01502
    Cr01502 Posts: 3,614 Member
    Does anyone else think it is weird we drink the breast milk from a different species?

    You should totally start drinking human breast milk . . . .

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