Vegan Cat help!!
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How would you like it if one morning the cat announced that due to his ethical concerns over the lives off plants you would now be eating a diet of nothing but mice, rabbits, birds and the odd blade of grass to help you digest the hair you licked off your *kitten*? He's only doing this for your own good because hey, he feels great eating that diet.
Totally ludicrous to assume that what makes you feel better carries over onto another species. You probably wouldn't want to be in water all day so are you going to put your fish out on the table to dry out because it will feel better? For that matter, why are you trapping and keeping an animal in your home? Let it run free to enjoy life as intended, not as your pet slave for your enjoyment.
WOW!
I really feel like I am being attacked here!
First of all I'm not the one killing innocent creatures.
Second, the diet that you said my cat would force me to eat. Is that paleo?
Also, I'm a responsible pet owner. I'm not going to let Nadia run around the neighborhood to kill innocent creatures or even worse, get killed herself!
MFP is full of bullies! Watch out!0 -
If you truly believe in the ethical treatment of animals then I suggest that what you are doing to your cat is highly UNETHICAL.
There are many vegetables and fruits that will cause a feline to have kidney failure - I would be very careful what you give the cat to eat....0 -
Also if you insist on slowly killing the cat with a vegan lifestyle, please read about taurine and the roll it plays in a cats diet. If you want to feed it a wheat and corn concoction you've made yourself you'll need to find an ethical source of taurine to add to it so the cat doesn't go blind or suffer heart issue.0
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Please find a new home for the cat.
I'm telling everyone now.
THIS IS NOT AN OPTION.0 -
Just divorce her; she clearly doesn't appreciate you or the innocent lives of the animals you're trying to save!0
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Cats are much more picky eaters than dogs, so I can totally understand your dilemma. A dog will eat it's own, or another dogs "droppings" so I'm not sure a dog cares what it eats.
I find it funny that someone will go on about the ethical treatment of animals and still insist you feed your cat some sort of animal flesh, like that is a requirement. I, personally, have nothing against eating meat, but I do respect your boundaries and will not try to force you to change. It just seems hypocritical to me to think that you are trying to make a change for what you deem is a more healthy lifestyle for you and your family and other people are attacking you because you are choosing not to feed your cat meat based products.
As stated by someone, there are some veggie based cat food that should allow your cat to reach it's protein goals for each day, and I doubt your cat will know any difference. Seriously, how much "meat flavor" can come in one of those kitty nibble bags anyway.
If your cat were outside, like the previously posted lion, then yes, I would assume it would eat birds and mice and whatever. However, the fact of the matter is, the cat is inside and protected, it doesn't have to hunt for food, and it doesn't have to defend itself from other animals, it doesn't have to get cold or hot or wet or freeze. As a matter of fact, for you to throw an indoor cat outside to fend for itself is inhumane!0 -
Nadia is like my child and also how can I instil the principles of veganism to my children while feeding Nadia thing like horses and pigs?
You teach your children Your principles - and explain that Nadia is a cat and needs meat...they are human and do not!Also I'm pretty sure cats in the wild DID eat a lot of plant matter naturally.
Yes indeed...to make themselves vomit up the bones, fur and undigestible bits of the ANIMALS they have eaten....Human beings have adapted just fine to being vegans and I'm sure Nadia will too.
This HAS to be a joke....we are OMNIvores...we are made to digest plants and meats...cats are CARNIVORES made to digest meat and not plants. And yes...Nadia will adapt (whether she likes it or not apparently) but it may take a few generations before she becomes a HERBivore......
I don't know about anyone else but this thread makes me want to weep
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1. It is not advised to make a cat eat vegan. They are carnivorous animals and it has not been scientifically proven it is health for the cat. Cats can have many issues arise such as the formation of crystals in their urinary tract.
2. It is unvegan to force an animal to be vegan. That is if are vegan because you care about animal's...I could be wrong... Maybe you don't. But I don't see it as vegan to force a pet to be vegan with you, especially an animal that is carnivorous by nature. That's disrespectful.0 -
what would happen if when your kids are up hanging with their friends they decide hm i like meat and have a cheese burger? i eat veggie myself but my 2 year old and my husband eat meat .. my son can decide when hes older if he wants to eat like mummy he likes meat not my choice im his mum but hes going to grow up and be his own person same reason i refused to have him circumcised or baptised .. just because your cat cant speak doesnt mean he loves someone making desisions for him. i have two dogs who get dog rice and meat proper meat as i dont like the idea of dog food i hate touching it infact ive amost been sick cutting it up but my dogs a dog before i got them i knew they ate meat just like wolfs do its like getting a rabbit and forcing it to eat steak0
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This is awful, I can't believe that you are making your cat go vegan - it's a disgrace. CATS NEED MEAT. It's fine for you and your family but don't force this diet on your cat..
If you don't think you can lok after the cat properly and are in the UK I'll happily take her for the sake of her health.
Some people just shouldn't have pets :explode:
I'd love to see the science to support this statement! You won't though, because it doesn't exist. As long as cats get regular protein, it doesn't matter where it comes from. Their bodies can't tell the difference. smh Some people...
here is the link you wanted
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_must_cats_eat_meat
It's insane that you think that it is ok to do this to your cat, I hope someone reports you :mad:0 -
I grew up around many a barn cat and never saw one stalking a pail of grain. Just sayin.0
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So has nadia just been malnurished this whole time since she won't eat what you feed her? You also did not mention adding in taurine...cats need it. If you love someone or something you treat them right and love them for what they are. You don't change their nature. If that is not an option then rehoming nadia would he the best thing you can do for since you can't feed her healthfully for what she is. If you refuse its obvious you are not a true vegan or animal rights activist and are an abuser.0
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Cats are not capable of making several essential amino acids. They can actually go blind, lose skeletal strength and grow weak from malnutrition if they are subject to a veg diet. I have been working with animals for twenty years and it is regarded as abuse to subject a cat to this kind of treatment. Please consider re-homing the cat if her dietary needs offend you.0
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Ignore all the haters here, they just don't understand where you are coming from. I think that diet is perfect!0
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You say you want ethical treatment of animals but it doesn't seem that poor Nadia gets a say in what would be ethical for her. Yes, you are being attacked on behalf of Nadia who doesn't get to speak for herself. Nadia is a carnivore. She stalks prey, she eats meat. No different than a lion in the wild. You're trying to force your feelings and comforts onto another species. She isn't your child, she's a cat.
I'm also for the ethical treatment of animals, all of them, including your cat who does not want to be vegan.
I am not sure I understand the logic here. So the owner is allowed to murder animals to feed a domestic pet and that's ethical?
There are all sorts of meat free sources for protein for animals, and soy is the best.0 -
I grew up around many a barn cat and never saw one stalking a pail of grain. Just sayin.
All I know is my cat makes the best Seitan and Kale Stirfry in the house. Her claws make everything so small and delicate. Sometimes she forgets what she's doing and falls asleep in the cold wok, though. Her mock cheese leaves a little to be desired, however; she adamantly refuses to soak the cashews the night before because she says she hates water.
Lazy animal.0 -
what would happen if when your kids are up hanging with their friends they decide hm i like meat and have a cheese burger? i eat veggie myself but my 2 year old and my husband eat meat .. my son can decide when hes older if he wants to eat like mummy he likes meat not my choice im his mum but hes going to grow up and be his own person same reason i refused to have him circumcised or baptised .. just because your cat cant speak doesnt mean he loves someone making desisions for him. i have two dogs who get dog rice and meat proper meat as i dont like the idea of dog food i hate touching it infact ive amost been sick cutting it up but my dogs a dog before i got them i knew they ate meat just like wolfs do its like getting a rabbit and forcing it to eat steak
Well, no offence intended but I wonder if you take the same approach to your children when it comes to drugs and alcohol.
Frankly, my children, my spouse, and my pets know that they can follow my rules or live somewhere else.0 -
This is awful, I can't believe that you are making your cat go vegan - it's a disgrace. CATS NEED MEAT. It's fine for you and your family but don't force this diet on your cat..
If you don't think you can lok after the cat properly and are in the UK I'll happily take her for the sake of her health.
Some people just shouldn't have pets :explode:
Let's all calm down and take some nice calming breaths.
I guess the OP is trying to find a way of feeding the cat but not placing a demand on the meat market as they have decided to go vegan.
That is fine as the moment the cat is released into the back garden it will find enough meat in mice and birds to satisfy it's obligatory needs.
Everyone's happy, the OP hasn't bought any meat, the cat get's it's prey the natural way instead of from a tin; peace prevails.
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Cats are not capable of making several essential amino acids. They can actually go blind, lose skeletal strength and grow weak from malnutrition if they are subject to a veg diet. I have been working with animals for twenty years and it is regarded as abuse to subject a cat to this kind of treatment. Please consider re-homing the cat if her dietary needs offend you.
Aren't we also not capable of producing essential amino acids. Yet vegans exist.0 -
drugs and alcohol are a bit different lol ! my husband eats meat but he doesnt drink neither do i i think classing meat in the same category as drugs and alcohol is hilarious
i cant wait till your kids rebel or do you intend to lock them up like the cat?0 -
Here is what I'm feeding her now:
Deflated Soya 480 grams
Wheat flour 160 gram
Bajra flour 160 grams
Maize flour 160 grams
Edible oil 20 grams
Skim milk (I substitute with alomonds!) powder 10 grams
Dried yeast powder 5 grams
Salt to taste
I then make it into a dough and place it in the oven and make it into biscuits.
I wouldn't eat that - I'm not surprised the cat doesn't want to.0 -
Hello
Me and my family have recently decided to go vegan. It's been about one year now and so far we're all really enjoying it (the kids sometimes complain about the food lol). But the newest addition to our family, a six month old Munchkin named Nadia, absolutely refuses to adopt our vegan lifestyle. I've picked up a few recipes off the internet but she absolutely REFUSES to eat. My family and I are big into animal welfare and we just don't believe in harming other animals. Any ideas?
Here is what I'm feeding her now:
Deflated Soya 480 grams
Wheat flour 160 gram
Bajra flour 160 grams
Maize flour 160 grams
Edible oil 20 grams
Skim milk (I substitute with alomonds!) powder 10 grams
Dried yeast powder 5 grams
Salt to taste
I then make it into a dough and place it in the oven and make it into biscuits.
I know plenty of people with animals on a vegan diet...
What do you do though if he catches a bird or something?!?! BAD VEGAN KITTY! NO!0 -
I would suggest talking to your veterinarian about this. Make sure they are a certified kitty dietitian so they can give you the best options and suggestions for vegan recipes for your furry friend. Personally, I don't believe the same things you do about why you don't wish to eat meat or other food produced from animals, but I wish you luck in your endeavors in feeding your feline.
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I wouldn't eat that - I'm not surprised the cat doesn't want to.
It's not bad!!
I sometimes throw in a little vegetable stock and it tastes like popcorn. I've tried it.
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cats dont eat popcorn =P jst saying0
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I wouldn't eat that - I'm not surprised the cat doesn't want to.
It's not bad!!
I sometimes throw in a little vegetable stock and it tastes like popcorn. I've tried it.
Far too much salt for a cat in that case.0 -
What do you do though if he catches a bird or something?!?! BAD VEGAN KITTY! NO!
I know this was meant to be funny but please don't joke about stuff like this.
Animals killing other animals isn't funny.0 -
There are tons of recipes on the internet on how to make pet food. You really should try to read some of those and find out what proportions of nutrients your pet needs.
For goodness sakes people enough, do we not have better things to do that yak about damn catfood?0 -
What do you do though if he catches a bird or something?!?! BAD VEGAN KITTY! NO!
I know this was meant to be funny but please don't joke about stuff like this.
Animals killing other animals isn't funny.
Word. Stop the violence!0 -
what would happen if when your kids are up hanging with their friends they decide hm i like meat and have a cheese burger? i eat veggie myself but my 2 year old and my husband eat meat .. my son can decide when hes older if he wants to eat like mummy he likes meat not my choice im his mum but hes going to grow up and be his own person same reason i refused to have him circumcised or baptised .. just because your cat cant speak doesnt mean he loves someone making desisions for him. i have two dogs who get dog rice and meat proper meat as i dont like the idea of dog food i hate touching it infact ive amost been sick cutting it up but my dogs a dog before i got them i knew they ate meat just like wolfs do its like getting a rabbit and forcing it to eat steak
Well, no offence intended but I wonder if you take the same approach to your children when it comes to drugs and alcohol.
Frankly, my children, my spouse, and my pets know that they can follow my rules or live somewhere else.
Agree with you! You have to set standards for your family.0
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