Vegan Cat help!!

LNRansom

To be honest if you are insistant on a vegan diet for the whole family then you would be better off rehoming the cat before you kill it. Get a rabbit instead.

Taurine is vital for heart function and eyesight in cats and they need meat in order get the right amount.

Don't get me started on forcing vegan lifestyles on other pets and children. Children have been removed from families in the past by social workers and those families have been charged with neglect. Those children were underweight, malnourished and ended up in foster care.

It's all well and good changing for ethical reasons however don't put your family and pets at risk.

Also you can't claim to care for your cat by forcing it (as a carnivore) to go vegan. Even knowing the risks.

I hope for your sake that this is an April fools joke.

Vegans claim to be caring, but no truelly caring person ever forces a lifestyle on someone/something else at the expense of their own health. This is why I hate animal rights groups (which are nothing more than anti-human hate groups) as a whole.

Admiral_Derp

Please tell me this is an April fools joke. I work at a pet store and had a million hours worth of training through a vet, cats eat meat. They do make vegan dog food, but not cat.

Why is ok for dogs to be vegan, but not cats? Thats seems a little discriminatory if you ask me.

People don't care about equality! It's sad really.

LNRansom

Stick to dry cat food if anything. The meat content in most commercial brands can barely be considered meat anyway. :S

magerum

Please tell me this is an April fools joke. I work at a pet store and had a million hours worth of training through a vet, cats eat meat. They do make vegan dog food, but not cat.

I'm calling... someone!

saxmaniac

Because they are different species. Dogs and Humans both have the ability to process and combine amino acids to create complete proteins. Cats do not.

Genetic variation is no excuse for double-standards or discrimination. You can't choose the genes or chromosomes you're born with.

KatieSChaisemom

One of the best cat foods you can buy is enova EVO look it up online. Cats are do not thrive on wheat or gluten produst. Either that or homemake a mixture of ground rabbit, lamb, pork, and throw it in a bowl. I understand your reasons for being vegan but you have to have read a biology book at SOME point during your existence. If not go to the nearest high school or community college before your cat gets deathly sick. I hope the best for you all.

KatieSChaisemom

Whole foods is a grocery store catering to people like you lady! Geesh where do you live under a rock?

jofjltncb6

Whole foods is a grocery store catering to people like you lady! Geesh where do you live under a rock?

Hmm???

(...under a rock, indeed.)

KatieSChaisemom

The OP is obviously a control freak who is too weak and narrow minded to follow her own diet so now everyone in the house including the cat must be vegan. It shows how little she cares about anyone. It is sad because even though it is POSSIBLE she is subjecting her growing kids to it as well. They should eat whatever they want until they are grown enough and old enough to make their decision I just hope she is not feeding them soy as the recent studies show hormone imbalances in children, and for goodness sakes she needs to go cook her husband a steak for being tortured that way. I couldn't imagine my hard working meat eating his entire life husband coming home and I feed him a bowl of salad just because I do. My man deserves that steak. The day he asks me for some Bok Choy is the day he will get it. OP I advise you to do as you wish but not force your lifestyle on others. It is like people who do not date interacially telling others not to marry interaccially, or a person of specific religion condemming a a different religion all because of their choices. I have to agree with the other lady on here. I eat like a rabbit but my family makes their own decisions and we are all happy. Feed your cat meat your cruel cruel lady.

jofjltncb6

The OP is obviously a control freak who is too weak and narrow minded to follow her own diet so now everyone in the house including the cat must be vegan. It shows how little she cares about anyone. It is sad because even though it is POSSIBLE she is subjecting her growing kids to it as well. They should eat whatever they want until they are grown enough and old enough to make their decision I just hope she is not feeding them soy as the recent studies show hormone imbalances in children, and for goodness sakes she needs to go cook her husband a steak for being tortured that way. I couldn't imagine my hard working meat eating his entire life husband coming home and I feed him a bowl of salad just because I do. My man deserves that steak. The day he asks me for some Bok Choy is the day he will get it. OP I advise you to do as you wish but not force your lifestyle on others. It is like people who do not date interacially telling others not to marry interaccially, or a person of specific religion condemming a a different religion all because of their choices. I have to agree with the other lady on here. I eat like a rabbit but my family makes their own decisions and we are all happy. Feed your cat meat your cruel cruel lady.

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Akimajuktuq

How would you like it if one morning the cat announced that due to his ethical concerns over the lives off plants you would now be eating a diet of nothing but mice, rabbits, birds and the odd blade of grass to help you digest the hair you licked off your *kitten*? He's only doing this for your own good because hey, he feels great eating that diet.

Totally ludicrous to assume that what makes you feel better carries over onto another species. You probably wouldn't want to be in water all day so are you going to put your fish out on the table to dry out because it will feel better? For that matter, why are you trapping and keeping an animal in your home? Let it run free to enjoy life as intended, not as your pet slave for your enjoyment.

WOW!

I really feel like I am being attacked here!

First of all I'm not the one killing innocent creatures.

Second, the diet that you said my cat would force me to eat. Is that paleo?

Also, I'm a responsible pet owner. I'm not going to let Nadia run around the neighborhood to kill innocent creatures or even worse, get killed herself!

There's nothing worse for the future of the environment and the survival of our species than people such as you who are SO disconnected from our planet and how life works. Have you ever heard of the "nutrient cycle"? Life CANNOT exist without death. That's a reality. There is nothing more hypocritical than wanting to protect only animals with faces, and soil organisms and watersheds be damned. (Wait, dont fish have faces?)

It's far past time that you learn about where your food comes from, how it is cultivated and where the nutrients and water come from to produce it. Vegan food (specifically grains and soy) carries a higher death toll than balanced farming practices that produce both animals and plants. So, yes, you are killing many innocent creatures. I somewhat understand when people have been tricked into thinking a vegan diet is healthier but to pretend it's so much more ethical, and everyone else is "killing innocent creatures". Yeah, I want to attack you.

As everyone is pointing out, feeding a carnivore a vegan diet is NOT ethical. I would argue, after reading so much first-hand experience from vegans, that you are harming your children too. But I guess that's your "choice". I really hope that you can take a look in the mirror and address your own issues instead of distracting yourself with how unethical everyone else is and how righteous you are. The world really doesn't need more people like that.

Iron_Feline

Please tell me this is an April fools joke. I work at a pet store and had a million hours worth of training through a vet, cats eat meat. They do make vegan dog food, but not cat.

really, a MILLION hours, really? :huh:

AllonsYtotheTardis

Please tell me this is an April fools joke. I work at a pet store and had a million hours worth of training through a vet, cats eat meat. They do make vegan dog food, but not cat.

That's dedication, right there.

Biitchstix

I had a dog that was pretty much a vegan, (he had horrible allergies and his body couldn't handle meat/dairy, trust me when I say we tried). We used to use rice as a base in his food and then add in fresh veggies and nuts.
We also used to feed him food from the bag (depending on how sensitive his body was at the time, it varied).This brand: http://www.naturalbalanceinc.com/default.aspx makes a GREAT veggie dog food so if they have a cat option then that might be something for you to consider.

Good luck!

zCarsAndCaloriesz

I hope this is an april fools thing, cause that poor cat needs meat!
Their carnivores by nature and refusing to feed it meat will result in health issues and expensive vet bills.
I really think this is a joke, but honestly you can never tell with some people lol.

cyberskirt

Hello

Me and my family have recently decided to go vegan. It's been about one year now and so far we're all really enjoying it (the kids sometimes complain about the food lol). But the newest addition to our family, a six month old Munchkin named Nadia, absolutely refuses to adopt our vegan lifestyle. I've picked up a few recipes off the internet but she absolutely REFUSES to eat. My family and I are big into animal welfare and we just don't believe in harming other animals. Any ideas?

Here is what I'm feeding her now:

Deflated Soya 480 grams
Wheat flour 160 gram
Bajra flour 160 grams
Maize flour 160 grams
Edible oil 20 grams
Skim milk (I substitute with alomonds!) powder 10 grams
Dried yeast powder 5 grams
Salt to taste

I then make it into a dough and place it in the oven and make it into biscuits.

Please tell me you're a troll. Cats are carnivores and can not safely survive on a vegan diet. Their entire digestive system is designed to eat meat and organs. It's a bit like asking you to eat only dirt and expecting you to be healthy from that, there is little to no nutrients that you could absorb from an all dirt diet, the same for a cat on a vegan or even vegetarian diet. humans can go Vegan. Cats can not.

If you are unable to give your cat the proper diet she requires to survive, please consider finding her a new home where she will be properly and ethically cared for.

BurtHuttz

There's nothing worse for the future of the environment and the survival of our species than people such as you who are SO disconnected from our planet and how life works. Have you ever heard of the "nutrient cycle"? Life CANNOT exist without death. That's a reality. There is nothing more hypocritical than wanting to protect only animals with faces, and soil organisms and watersheds be damned. (Wait, dont fish have faces?)

It's far past time that you learn about where your food comes from, how it is cultivated and where the nutrients and water come from to produce it. Vegan food (specifically grains and soy) carries a higher death toll than balanced farming practices that produce both animals and plants. So, yes, you are killing many innocent creatures. I somewhat understand when people have been tricked into thinking a vegan diet is healthier but to pretend it's so much more ethical, and everyone else is "killing innocent creatures". Yeah, I want to attack you.

As everyone is pointing out, feeding a carnivore a vegan diet is NOT ethical. I would argue, after reading so much first-hand experience from vegans, that you are harming your children too. But I guess that's your "choice". I really hope that you can take a look in the mirror and address your own issues instead of distracting yourself with how unethical everyone else is and how righteous you are. The world really doesn't need more people like that.

:noway: :noway: :noway:

katy84o

\ They should eat whatever they want until they are grown enough and old enough to make their decision

...I understand what you are getting at, but ^ isn't eating whatever you want the same as making your own decision?

Also, this whole thread I'm pretty sure is a joke..Haven't you noticed theres a lot about cats on the forums today?

SRH7

Whole foods is a grocery store catering to people like you lady! Geesh where do you live under a rock?

Whoah! That's a bit rude. Let me guess, you've never been abroad? I've never heard of Whole Foods so I'm assuming that it's a store in the US? Hint: not everyone on this forum lives in the US.

SmileyJ23

Dear Cros,

As you friend, I need to be honest with you. I've kept this to myself for quite some time for fear of hurting your feelings. Your puss-y needs meat to function optimally. I know that isn't what you want to hear, but meat substitutes just don't do the trick.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

KatieSChaisemom

Whole foods is a grocery store catering to people like you lady! Geesh where do you live under a rock?

Whoah! That's a bit rude. Let me guess, you've never been abroad? I've never heard of Whole Foods so I'm assuming that it's a store in the US? Hint: not everyone on this forum lives in the US.

I do not intend for it to be rude as I have friends all over the world. Some in Germany, some in the UK, and some in spain. There are whole food stores all over. Not just in the U.S.

slkehl

If you were really concerned about animal welfare, you'd let your cat go free. Animals are meant to live in the wild. I do not understand why vegans don't have a problem with turning animals into slaves for their own pleasure.

37434958

What your doing is really unhealthy for your pet. No kidding. Your pet NEEDS the protein from the meat. If your not gonna feed it protein and make it happy then it will be better off with someone else.

37434958

If you were really concerned about animal welfare, you'd let your cat go free. Animals are meant to live in the wild. I do not understand why vegans don't have a problem with turning animals into slaves for their own pleasure.

I agree with you.

Iron_Feline

\ They should eat whatever they want until they are grown enough and old enough to make their decision

...I understand what you are getting at, but ^ isn't eating whatever you want the same as making your own decision?

Also, this whole thread I'm pretty sure is a joke..Haven't you noticed theres a lot about cats on the forums today?

There are, where?

highervibes

If you were really concerned about animal welfare, you'd let your cat go free. Animals are meant to live in the wild. I do not understand why vegans don't have a problem with turning animals into slaves for their own pleasure.

I never looked at it this way before. This is an interesting point!

37434958

I had a dog that was pretty much a vegan, (he had horrible allergies and his body couldn't handle meat/dairy, trust me when I say we tried). We used to use rice as a base in his food and then add in fresh veggies and nuts.
We also used to feed him food from the bag (depending on how sensitive his body was at the time, it varied).This brand: http://www.naturalbalanceinc.com/default.aspx makes a GREAT veggie dog food so if they have a cat option then that might be something for you to consider.

Good luck!

Well your a different case I mean he had allergies to meat but as for the cat, then I disagree

Davina_JH

The OP is obviously a control freak who is too weak and narrow minded to follow her own diet so now everyone in the house including the cat must be vegan. It shows how little she cares about anyone. It is sad because even though it is POSSIBLE she is subjecting her growing kids to it as well. They should eat whatever they want until they are grown enough and old enough to make their decision I just hope she is not feeding them soy as the recent studies show hormone imbalances in children, and for goodness sakes she needs to go cook her husband a steak for being tortured that way. I couldn't imagine my hard working meat eating his entire life husband coming home and I feed him a bowl of salad just because I do. My man deserves that steak. The day he asks me for some Bok Choy is the day he will get it. OP I advise you to do as you wish but not force your lifestyle on others. It is like people who do not date interacially telling others not to marry interaccially, or a person of specific religion condemming a a different religion all because of their choices. I have to agree with the other lady on here. I eat like a rabbit but my family makes their own decisions and we are all happy. Feed your cat meat your cruel cruel lady.

wow!

Barbellerella

Please tell me this is an April fools joke. I work at a pet store and had a million hours worth of training through a vet, cats eat meat. They do make vegan dog food, but not cat.

Why is ok for dogs to be vegan, but not cats? Thats seems a little discriminatory if you ask me.

Because they are different species. Dogs and Humans both have the ability to process and combine amino acids to create complete proteins. Cats do not.

So you're sayin, I am the same species as a dog?!?! Mind. Blown.

pobalita

If you were really concerned about animal welfare, you'd let your cat go free. Animals are meant to live in the wild. I do not understand why vegans don't have a problem with turning animals into slaves for their own pleasure.