Vegan Cat help!!

sullus

If you were really concerned about animal welfare, you'd let your cat go free. Animals are meant to live in the wild. I do not understand why vegans don't have a problem with turning animals into slaves for their own pleasure.

If you were really concerned about animal welfare in general, you'd kill your cat. Outdoor domesticated (not feral) housecats kill 15 Billion small birds and animals a year.

katy84o

\ They should eat whatever they want until they are grown enough and old enough to make their decision

...I understand what you are getting at, but ^ isn't eating whatever you want the same as making your own decision?

Also, this whole thread I'm pretty sure is a joke..Haven't you noticed theres a lot about cats on the forums today?

There are, where?

I fixed it for you, because I love a good cat .gif.. there was a thread I stumbled upon last friday and spent easily three hours watching, laughing, awww-ing, and crying, and wishing my boyfriend wasn't allergic so I could get a kitty.

Mousiechan

Cats need to eat
Meat or fish
That's their dish.

jgsc6d

This person is either pulling a prank (and not a very good one) or is clueless. Either way...

MRSHHJONES

Hi, we rescued a cat that had been hit by a car and when the vet. was giving us dietary instructions she specifically said no vegetarian diet, that they need primarily protein.... I hope this helps!

Lesa_Sass

Whole foods is a grocery store catering to people like you lady! Geesh where do you live under a rock?

Whoah! That's a bit rude. Let me guess, you've never been abroad? I've never heard of Whole Foods so I'm assuming that it's a store in the US? Hint: not everyone on this forum lives in the US.

LOL, yep, they do not need Whole Foods in Europe because they are not allowed to put the crap in their food that the US companies are.

freddykid

It was said before but let me reiterate, go ahead and give that kitty the meat she is craving.

gc_tweety

\ They should eat whatever they want until they are grown enough and old enough to make their decision

...I understand what you are getting at, but ^ isn't eating whatever you want the same as making your own decision?

Also, this whole thread I'm pretty sure is a joke..Haven't you noticed theres a lot about cats on the forums today?

There are, where?

I fixed it for you, because I love a good cat .gif.. there was a thread I stumbled upon last friday and spent easily three hours watching, laughing, awww-ing, and crying, and wishing my boyfriend wasn't allergic so I could get a kitty.

That is so considerate of you!

Cr01502

The OP is obviously a control freak who is too weak and narrow minded to follow her own diet so now everyone in the house including the cat must be vegan. It shows how little she cares about anyone. It is sad because even though it is POSSIBLE she is subjecting her growing kids to it as well. They should eat whatever they want until they are grown enough and old enough to make their decision I just hope she is not feeding them soy as the recent studies show hormone imbalances in children, and for goodness sakes she needs to go cook her husband a steak for being tortured that way. I couldn't imagine my hard working meat eating his entire life husband coming home and I feed him a bowl of salad just because I do. My man deserves that steak. The day he asks me for some Bok Choy is the day he will get it. OP I advise you to do as you wish but not force your lifestyle on others. It is like people who do not date interacially telling others not to marry interaccially, or a person of specific religion condemming a a different religion all because of their choices. I have to agree with the other lady on here. I eat like a rabbit but my family makes their own decisions and we are all happy. Feed your cat meat your cruel cruel lady.

First of all I'M A MAN.

Secondly I've already looked into what cats need in order to live!

They do need taurine which is available as a supplement I know because I TAKE IT!

My children are 4 and 6 years old. That is hardly old or grown enough to be making their own decision and my WIFE has happily joined me on my quest to a healthier and happier lifestyle.

Thank you very much for getting all of the facts before you decided to insult me and my family.

KatieSChaisemom

The only thing I see that I got wrong is that you are a man apparently with an attitude of a middle aged woman going through menopause. If you have questions ask an animal dietician, and let's hope you take their word for it and no do further damage. Your kids will get sick if you aren't careful with what you give or take out of their diet. So please for your childs welfare be careful. Even though they are YOUR kids, people have a right to be concerned. That's why there is such a thing as child protective services. Vegan is OK for kids but it should be a measure taken with caution so your kids don't grow up to be 4 foot tall/

SRH7

The only thing I see that I got wrong is that you are a man apparently with an attitude of a middle aged woman going through menopause. If you have questions ask an animal dietician, and let's hope you take their word for it and no do further damage. Your kids will get sick if you aren't careful with what you give or take out of their diet. So please for your childs welfare be careful. Even though they are YOUR kids, people have a right to be concerned. That's why there is such a thing as child protective services. Vegan is OK for kids but it should be a measure taken with caution so your kids don't grow up to be 4 foot tall/

Iron_Feline

jillybeansalad

I will say that most pet food kibble is garbage and mostly plant-based (which I am *not* a fan of). Most, if not all, that you find at department stores are full of corn. As a veg, I still feed my cats and dogs meat-based diets, I'm just careful on the sources. Think about switching them to a raw diet where you can pick out where the food comes from (free range or local ethical farmer)?

It could depend on the individual animal, many cats and dogs have food allergies with grains and vegetables- that could be a problem. Just like with any food changes, do it gradually. Please monitor the animal's health closely (blood work, etc).

PS: I would think twice before relying on PeTA for a source of information.

Lesa_Sass

I think there is a market for cat food flavored tofu. I will have The Sassy Gourmet get right on that.

super_J73

Please tell me this is an April fools joke. I work at a pet store and had a million hours worth of training through a vet, cats eat meat. They do make vegan dog food, but not cat.

really, a MILLION hours, really? :huh:

YES, I was being sarcastic, wow!

super_J73

Please tell me this is an April fools joke. I work at a pet store and had a million hours worth of training through a vet, cats eat meat. They do make vegan dog food, but not cat.

Why is ok for dogs to be vegan, but not cats? Thats seems a little discriminatory if you ask me.

I don't make it, just sell it :-)

EvilDave14

Hi,
Sorry if someone has already said this, but I got bored of reading all of the abusive comments on here. You can get vegan cat food in the UK with taurine in here:

http://www.ethical-pets.co.uk/52-benevo-vegan-cat-food-dry.html

Camera_BagintheUK

Here's what the RSPCA has to say:

Vegetarian cat

Unlike dogs, cats are strict carnivores! They need vital nutrients that come from meat, especially taurine, vitamin A and arachidonic acid. This makes it very difficult to feed balanced vegetarian diets to cats, and commercially-available vegetarian diets may use taurine from meat sources.


Although cats do need some vegetation in order to have a balanced diet, this shouldn't form the bulk of a cat's diet.


Your cat may sometimes eat vegetation such as grass (which they would normally get from the intestines of herbivore prey animals). This can be normal, but can also be a sign of illness, if you are concerned speak to your vet.

http://www.rspca.org.uk/in-action/aboutus/mission/policies/vegetarianism/pets

I think the last four words of that quote are the best advice anyone could offer you.

abradbeary

I am not sure if you're serious or not.
Cats are not Vegans. They are carnivores. They eat meat. They NEED meat. Trust me, a cat does not have any ethical issues with eating another animal. Please don't force your human lifestyle on a non-human.

Seriously?! If you study cats in the wild they were raised as carnivores. Any vet would tell you that this is not a good decision because of the animals health. If the decision is because you are concerned of animals well being in the first place, please, don't subject your pet's health to something that is not good for them!

P.S. I am a Food Science Major studying within the department of Animal Science at Oklahoma State University. I respect everyone's decision do determine their food choices, but I don't think that they should try to influence others.

LiftAllThePizzas

The number of serious responses here is an outstanding demonstration of Poe's Law. Troll level: Elite!

Allihexen

As a veterinary technician with over a decade of experience, I have to say this is untrue. I have participated in countless abdominal surgeries, including perferations (tears in the intestine), never caused by rice. In fact we recommend chicken and rice as a bland diet for upset tummies. In my considerable experience, I have never once heard this about rice, particularly from doctors. Please do not spread misinformation, it could be harmful.

The problem with a vegan diet for cats is that it is deadly and will cause suffering. Cats *are* obligate carnivores and require certain protein only found in meat (taurine) for their bodies to function. Expect the cat to initially go blind. Then become neurologic. Then die.

Considering you can't even spell perforations right, you're the one spreading misinformation. The feed store at which I worked had vet (Not a technician) on call because he OWNS the store. Thanks for acting like I'm an idiot though. I really appreciate that. Also, chicken and rice usually means rice meal.

EDIT: Rice may not cause the cat to die, but it can hurt them. It holds no nutritional value and is used only as a filler. However, like with birds, it will swell, especially if it's uncooked.

Allihexen

Please tell me this is an April fools joke. I work at a pet store and had a million hours worth of training through a vet, cats eat meat. They do make vegan dog food, but not cat.

THANK YOU! This is the same situation at my last job.

angelcurry130

been laughing over how rediculous this scenario is and hoping it's just a really bad April Fool's joke. if not, i'm pretty sure there will be an upcoming news story on a family gone missing...the only living thing found in the home is a massively obese, but completely satisfied cat. please feed your CARNIVOROUS pet the kind of food she should be eating rather than expecting and animal to understand or even comprehend ethics.

magerum

The number of serious responses here is an outstanding demonstration of Poe's Law. Troll level: Elite!

SRH7

The number of serious responses here is an outstanding demonstration of Poe's Law. Troll level: Elite!

Cr01502

been laughing over how rediculous this scenario is and hoping it's just a really bad April Fool's joke. if not, i'm pretty sure there will be an upcoming news story on a family gone missing...the only living thing found in the home is a massively obese, but completely satisfied cat. please feed your CARNIVOROUS pet the kind of food she should be eating rather than expecting and animal to understand or even comprehend ethics.

Well . . . my cat used to be obese too.

Until she adopted the vegan lifestyle.

Thanks for illustrating my point.

Cr01502

If you were really concerned about animal welfare, you'd let your cat go free. Animals are meant to live in the wild. I do not understand why vegans don't have a problem with turning animals into slaves for their own pleasure.

SLAVES?!

All Nadia does is sit around the house all day licking herself.

Lady, if that's slavery, sign me up.

SerenaFisher

Save a vegetable eat a vegetarian.

My cat is writing the congress on behalf of this poor creature you've locked away in your home from the real world. Its abuse and he won't let you do it anymore! He has determined that he has claws and teeth for a reason and its not to chew on lettuce. :laugh: maybe just your bum if you continue with this.

I can't stop my cat from doing what he wants. I am a true animal lover, and likely a little insane.


Oh and did everyone forget that vegetables are living things? Or do we just eat living things that aren't cute? Or do vegetables not count because their life isn't as good as ours? I am so confused.

When you're driving as a vegan do you drive around bugs? Pick the critters out of your veggies? Those poor worms ... I know to eath their own, but what about the cat, people?

Cr01502

Save a vegetable eat a vegetarian.

My cat is writing the congress on behalf of this poor creature you've locked away in your home from the real world. Its abuse and he won't let you do it anymore! He has determined that he has claws and teeth for a reason and its not to chew on lettuce. :laugh: maybe just your bum if you continue with this.

I can't stop my cat from doing what he wants. I am a true animal lover, and likely a little insane.


Oh and did everyone forget that vegetables are living things? Or do we just eat living things that aren't cute? Or do vegetables not count because their life isn't as good as ours? I am so confused.

When you're driving as a vegan do you drive around bugs? Pick the critters out of your veggies? Those poor worms ... I know to eath their own, but what about the cat, people?

My cat is quite comfortable being locked away as it lives in England and the weather sucks. I assure you he's not being maltreated. He's doing the 5:2 diet and adopting quite well to the vegan lifestyle!

Vegetables are NOT living things. They are produced by living things in order to spread seeds. Eating vegetables is like eating someone's eggs!

I actually don't own a car so I don't hit bugs And whenever I see a warm on the side walk I pick it up and place it gently back in the soil.

We all have to do the best we can!

SerenaFisher

Save a vegetable eat a vegetarian.

My cat is writing the congress on behalf of this poor creature you've locked away in your home from the real world. Its abuse and he won't let you do it anymore! He has determined that he has claws and teeth for a reason and its not to chew on lettuce. :laugh: maybe just your bum if you continue with this.

I can't stop my cat from doing what he wants. I am a true animal lover, and likely a little insane.


Oh and did everyone forget that vegetables are living things? Or do we just eat living things that aren't cute? Or do vegetables not count because their life isn't as good as ours? I am so confused.

When you're driving as a vegan do you drive around bugs? Pick the critters out of your veggies? Those poor worms ... I know to eath their own, but what about the cat, people?

My cat is quite comfortable being locked away as it lives in England and the weather sucks. I assure you he's not being maltreated. He's doing the 5:2 diet and adopting quite well to the vegan lifestyle!

Vegetables are NOT living things. They are produced by living things in order to spread seeds. Eating vegetables is like eating someone's eggs!

I actually don't own a car so I don't hit bugs And whenever I see a warm on the side walk I pick it up and place it gently back in the soil.

We all have to do the best we can!

See the way I understand it a true vegan doesn't eat eggs because eating eggs is eating the young of enslaved children. Like drinking milk is also promoting slavery. My vegan friend has filled me in on all of this. Clothing also cannot be made by or with animal products

Oh and she also tells me that it is acceptable for kitty to eat what kitty kills because animals were born with claws and teeth for that reason. Seems logical to me.

And I am pretty sure that though a potato may not have feelings the plant you are ripping it off of probably does.