EGGS ARE GOOD EAT THEM
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Dietary fat and cholesterol have nothing to do with the fat and cholesterol on and in your body.
Dietary cholesterol has little to do with the body's cholesterol levels, but dietary fat intake can significantly influence cholesterol levels...0 -
..... , we are actually capable of understanding that they can suffer and do what we can to minimize that. Predators do not know, care, nor make any effort to minimize suffering. Nor do diseases. It's my experience that people who use the word "ethical" in relation to our interactions with animals tend to live in a fantasy world where the only suffering that ever happens is at the hands of humans, and generally have no clue what "ethical" even means.
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Has anyone considered what happens to all the male chicks that are not required for the egg-laying part of the egg industry.
Do you know what happens to the hens when they have gone past efficiency in egg laying?
Eggs - a great source of protein, but at what cost? - no thanks.
Are you a vegan? Because if not this is a very hypocritical statement.
On another note...OM NOM NOM CHICKEN PERIOD.
I am vegan.
We are each entitled to our views on a public forum such as this and I thank everyone for giving their open honest views and not attacking me personally for sharing mine.
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No no, not attacking, if that's what it came off as! If you were not a vegan, it would be extremely hypocritical, though. You are right, you are entitled to your opinion so long as you don't try to make people feel bad for not doing what you do. I applaud you for saying things like this and sticking to a certain way of living because that is what you believe is right.0 -
Has anyone considered what happens to all the male chicks that are not required for the egg-laying part of the egg industry.
Do you know what happens to the hens when they have gone past efficiency in egg laying?
Eggs - a great source of protein, but at what cost? - no thanks.
Are you a vegan? Because if not this is a very hypocritical statement.
On another note...OM NOM NOM CHICKEN PERIOD.
I am vegan.
We are each entitled to our views on a public forum such as this and I thank everyone for giving their open honest views and not attacking me personally for sharing mine.
edit: spelling
No no, not attacking, if that's what it came off as! If you were not a vegan, it would be extremely hypocritical, though. You are right, you are entitled to your opinion so long as you don't try to make people feel bad for not doing what you do. I applaud you for saying things like this and sticking to a certain way of living because that is what you believe is right.
I do believe that some of the props have fallen away from the vegan's arguments that we need fewer agricultural animals on the planet. Turns out large numbers of animals are good for combating desertification. Here's a TED lecture by a respected naturalist, Alan Savory, who has done some pilot projects using meat herds. The land needs the animals as much as we need them for food. The human body thrives on the high-quality protein that we get from meat-animals. I am totally in favor of ethical practices in raising them but we need meat and eggs. I have known too many former vegans who simply could not sustain the vegan way of life. Here's that excellent TED lecture: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vpTHi7O66pI0 -
No no, not attacking, if that's what it came off as! If you were not a vegan, it would be extremely hypocritical, though. You are right, you are entitled to your opinion so long as you don't try to make people feel bad for not doing what you do. I applaud you for saying things like this and sticking to a certain way of living because that is what you believe is right.
Thank you for this.
I would never wish to make people feel bad for not following a path of my choosing, but do reserve the freedom to post my own point of view.
My reason for posting was not to make people feel bad or cast judgement but because a lot of people view eggs as a by-product of the poultry industry and not directly involved in the killing of hens and *kitten*. Of course that is not the case as the egg industry have no use for the majority of males, which are selected out as hatchlings and killed - in my opinion in an inhumane way. I won't go into details here.
I have, as a volunteer for Weekend Work on Orgainic Farms, killed chickens and chicks myself and for me personally I know I could not continue to do this, so I choose not to eat eggs. It is different when you feel the life of the animal come to an end at your own hand.
I respect others' opinions and choices, but do feel that people should be empowered to make informed choices.
Thank you and much respect.0 -
How dietary fat intake affects the cholesterol levels depends on many factors:Dietary fat and cholesterol have nothing to do with the fat and cholesterol on and in your body.
Dietary cholesterol has little to do with the body's cholesterol levels, but dietary fat intake can significantly influence cholesterol levels...
1. Increase in saturated fat intake (especially medium chain triglycerides) while reducing carbohydrate intake causes (not just correlates to) both an INCREASE in HDL-C (the 'healthy cholesterol' - which is really a lipoprotein, but I won't get into that) and a DECREASE in LDL-C (the 'bad' cholesterol).
2. Reduction in overall dietary fat intake (of all types) and replacing those calories with carbohydrates which increases triglyceride levels. Ratio of HDL to triglycerides is now known to be an indicator of CVD risk, whereas total serum cholesterol is NOT.
3. There are healthier fats than others.
The jury is still out on saturated fat from animal products - there is no consensus, as such the medical advise to watch saturated fat intake from that source is not yet proven invalid. However there is also no consensus that avoiding saturated fat DOES increase risk of CVD.
One type of saturated fat known as medium-chain triglycerides (MCT) however is shown to have extremely positive effects in improving the lipid profile as well as glycemic control in diabetics. (Coconut oil and palm kernel oil are the best-sources of MCT, but there's others.)
Trans-fats, however, there is a mountain of evidence and solid consensus on. These are not-often labeled as "trans-fat" products - the labels usually refer to them as "hydrogenated" or "partially-hydrogenated".
Highly refined oils - corn, soybean, cottonseed and refined canola (though not necessarily cold-pressed canola) have often been promoted as healthier alternatives - but very well may not be. These often have high inflammatory properties and the research does not indicate that they are healthier in any way now to lard, butter, or cold-pressed / unrefined oils.
The bottom line: While increasing dietary fat MAY increase serum cholesterol levels (not always the case, I went from a 30% caloric fat intake to 70% caloric fat intake and improved both the profile and reduced the total, and this happens often in healthy ketogenic dieters), if healthy choices of fat are chosen, it will improve the cholesterol profile (HDL:LDL ratio) while also lower triglyceride levels and other markers of CVD.
What this means for you:If eating whole eggs and other saturated fats while reducing less-healthy fats and refined carbohydrate improves your cholesterol profile, and your HDL:triglycerides ratio, do it. If it doesn't ... don't.0 -
all this talk about eggs is making me hungry...I love me some eggs0
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I eat between 6 and 12 eggs a week, love them any way I can get them (you can keep the deviled ones, I don't like those, I think it's a texture thing).0
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i ate 8 eggs today0
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The male chicks have their use as well, the bird of prey centre I went to last week uses them to feed all their birds (see profile pic).
I love eggs, they are nearly a perfect protein, containing most of the essential amino acids.
Save calories by making them with no oil, like poaching, or soft/hard boiling! I like to add pesto to my scrambled eggs, it's really nice.
I was born and raised in Italy, so you gave me a great idea! Pesto on scrambled eggs! Thanks for helping me making lunch today!
hope you like it! 0 -
Eggs are yummy. Animal flesh is yummy. Bird flesh is yummy. Veggies are yucky. Fish flesh is yucky.0
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Eat the eggs! Eat the whole eggs! Yolks aren't evil. Dietary fat and cholesterol have nothing to do with the fat and cholesterol on and in your body. http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/fats-full-story/ (ignore the crap at the bottom about replacing butter, dairy, and red meats... that's pure tripe).
JUST EAT THE FREAKIN' EGGS FFS.
Edit for eggs article: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/eggs/
Amen to this... And eggs are a complete protein containing most, if not all, amino acids your body needs, esp. after exercising...0 -
Eggs are yummy. Animal flesh is yummy. Bird flesh is yummy. Veggies are yucky. Fish flesh is yucky.
Brilliant! :laugh: ..... and Tofu?? :flowerforyou:0 -
Alright then. What happens to the male chicks from the farm you buy your eggs at?
Hey, as long as the eggs are free-range, who the hell cares about those pesky male chicks. Right?Has anyone considered what happens to all the male chicks that are not required for the egg-laying part of the egg industry.
Do you know what happens to the hens when they have gone past efficiency in egg laying?
Eggs - a great source of protein, but at what cost? - no thanks.
Hey, let's all use the assumption that the egg-laying industry has the same practices across the board. Let's also pretend that small farmers who take good care of their birds don't exist, and we should totally not eat eggs because factory farming makes some farming bad.
Not that is is relevant to the broader topic, but they either raise them for meat or sell them to other farms that need a rooster.
In any case, presenting a false dichotomy is erroneous.
Actually, male chickens are generally not used for meat, because there meat is not as good as the females. It is common practice in the industry to separate the chicks by sex at birth, and the males are frequently killed shortly thereafter(frequently by grinding them alive.)
On this particular small family farm, the male chicks, if not sold to other farms, are raised for meat. I was asked this question and I answered it. I'm sorry if people are having trouble accepting my answer. I know how the *greater* egg industry works, and that's why I choose to not support it. I simply take issue with the logic that one should completely reject eggs because some in the industry do it unethically.0 -
Eat the eggs! Eat the whole eggs! Yolks aren't evil. Dietary fat and cholesterol have nothing to do with the fat and cholesterol on and in your body. http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/fats-full-story/ (ignore the crap at the bottom about replacing butter, dairy, and red meats... that's pure tripe).
JUST EAT THE FREAKIN' EGGS FFS.
Edit for eggs article: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/eggs/
The next time you eat an egg, think of this...
What you are eating has been squeezed out through a chicken's *kitten*.
Enjoy.
kind regards,
Ben
You sir, need to take an anatomy class.0 -
I love eggs! I have them usually everyday for breakfast!0
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i ate 8 eggs today
I made a frittata yesterday with 12 of them, plenty of heavy cream too.
Good nutrition on the cheep. 0 -
Eat the eggs! Eat the whole eggs! Yolks aren't evil. Dietary fat and cholesterol have nothing to do with the fat and cholesterol on and in your body. http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/fats-full-story/ (ignore the crap at the bottom about replacing butter, dairy, and red meats... that's pure tripe).
JUST EAT THE FREAKIN' EGGS FFS.
Edit for eggs article: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/eggs/
The next time you eat an egg, think of this...
What you are eating has been squeezed out through a chicken's *kitten*.
Enjoy.
kind regards,
Ben
You sir, need to take an anatomy class.
OK everyone.. chicken anatomy is DIFFERENT than human anatomy.. Chickens have an egg laying chute and a poop chute.. the two converge internally and there is only the one multi purpose exit hole. You are welcome for this exceedingly scientific explanation of henatomy.0 -
OK everyone.. chicken anatomy is DIFFERENT than human anatomy.. Chickens have an egg laying chute and a poop chute.. the two converge internally and there is only the one multi purpose exit hole. You are welcome for this exceedingly scientific explanation of henatomy.
Then how come only SOME of the eggs are brown! =P0 -
Eggs are yummy. Animal flesh is yummy. Bird flesh is yummy. Veggies are yucky. Fish flesh is yucky.
Brilliant! :laugh: ..... and Tofu?? :flowerforyou:
Not worth the keystrokes in my opinion. 0 -
I'm with ya, except I eat my yucky veggies and fish anyway.Eggs are yummy. Animal flesh is yummy. Bird flesh is yummy. Veggies are yucky. Fish flesh is yucky.
I will admit though, the only way I truly ENJOYED fish was beer-battered, deep-fried with chips/fries whatever you want to call them.
Now, back to our talk of eggs.
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I'm with ya, except I eat my yucky veggies and fish anyway.Eggs are yummy. Animal flesh is yummy. Bird flesh is yummy. Veggies are yucky. Fish flesh is yucky.
I will admit though, the only way I truly ENJOYED fish was beer-battered, deep-fried with chips/fries whatever you want to call them.
Now, back to our talk of eggs.
I thought so too and then I tried sea bass :O so delicious...0 -
Eating a lot of eggs these days. Love eggs and so good for you!0
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