Over 200 New Year New Me Part 18

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  • LittleSpy
    LittleSpy Posts: 6,754 Member
    That's what I thought, but for example I'm set at 1200 calories. Yesterday I ate 1586 and exercised 716 and it shows a net of 330 on my phone. But 1586-716=870...maybe it's a glitch in the app. So basically I need to try eat as many exercise calories as possible?

    Well, basically what it is is that if your metabolism is working properly, and you're set at a 1000 calorie deficit through your diet, you should be able to eat 100% of your exercise calories and still average losing 2 pounds a week (or whatever your goals is -- 1.5# is a daily 750 cal deficit, 1# is 500, etc.).
    There's a lot of assumption in there though (like your portion sizes being correct and your exercise calorie burn being correct and your metabolism being on par with average for your age/sex).

    And that does sound like a glitch in the app! Maybe you should post about it in the technical support section of the forum & see if Mike responds?
  • elmox
    elmox Posts: 699 Member
    lildeb, you can totally see a difference! Congratulations, you look great.

    Checking in for yesterday:
    Cals: 1478, 480 exercise remaining
    Water: 88 oz
    Exercise: 3 miles at the track = 758 cals
    Proud: Those 3 miles!!

    I weighed in using my parents' scale today. It's the kind like they have at the doctor's office (slide across the top until it balances in the middle) and it's showing a 1.6 lb loss from last Friday, and a 2.8 lb loss from my Monday 198.6. Since this is not the normal scale I weigh in on, I'm a little hesitant to post, but it's the best I got.

    lildebbie ...0 - 0%
    Jess...........0 - 0%
    Pos_Me.....0 - 0%
    LittleSpy....0 - 0%
    Miranda...0.6 - 0.22%
    Meokk......-2.2 - 1.16%
    cogirl........ 0 -0%
    elmox.......-1.6 - 0.80%

    Off to try Zumba for this first time with my mom. Then later today I'm getting my hair cut and highlited and meeting an old friend for lunch. This is a good vaca!!
  • cris20056
    cris20056 Posts: 1,355 Member
    I've had one hell of a frustrating week and I've been stressed and down and ..well you all know the emotions Ive been through this week. Seems like my metabolism was not shocked at all, it just got pissed off :laugh:

    I think I totally blew my chances of winning BL on Tuesday but I wont give up...Im going to keep at it until the freaking scale moves.
    Quick recap- was 201.8 Saturday, 205 on Monday, amd at 202.8 today, which is .4 higher than last Friday's weigh in. :sad: Ugh

    lildebbie ...0 - 0%
    Jess...........0 - 0%
    Pos_Me.....0 - 0%
    LittleSpy....0 - 0%
    Miranda...0.6 - 0.22%
    Meokk......-2.2 - 1.16%
    cogirl........ 0 -0%
    Cris20056......0 - 0%


    raider- burning 400-500 calories is great! Most of us where aiming higher to counteract some bad eating over the weekend, normally I would burn around 500 cals. As far as the Dr's scale, I think they are cursed. Every single doctor I've ever had has a mean scale that shows a huge difference than my home scale. I attribute it to the fact that so many people weigh in on it daily it throws the numbers off :wink:

    jess- I had my HR between 150-170 most of the time during spin, and some smart aleck decided to shut the door so we could 'sweat' more..it was like a freaking sauna in there, I was soaked when I got out of class but I did feel great. Hope you are feeling better this morning!

    lildeb- I can see a difference! Especially in your belly, legs and face! Keep going girl!

    meook- WOOOHOOO! GET EM GIRL! :drinker: :flowerforyou:

    As for the guy not showing up last night- we were emailing and he said he needed to check with his gf if 730 would work. I told him I was leaving for the gym and that if I didnt hear back from him I would show up at 730 and I did. Well turns out he emailed me at like 5pm telling me he was stuck at work, but I had already left for the gym so I didnt get the message (if i had my iphone on me i would ahve gotten it:laugh: ) anyway, Im trying again today but its his last chance.
  • lildebbie
    lildebbie Posts: 2,068 Member
    Chris - Good luck on the phone tonight...hope it works out for you.
    jess - seems like there is some glitch with the # you gave you would not have a 300 net,

    With all the "0" (and ++) we had this week next week is going to be awesome for all of us!!!!!
  • RedneckWmn
    RedneckWmn Posts: 3,202 Member
    LittleSpy-Once again thanks for all your awesome knowledge! Don't know what I would do without y'all!:smile:

    Cris-The good news is the scale is going down this week! You can totally do it. 700 Calories till Sunday right? I had a different spin class teacher last night and this woman was like a machine!! The other lady had us climbing hills and giving us recovery on a flat road and what not. This woman's recovery was stil having your resistance and what she called a "6". Pros and cons to both. It will be good to have variety I think. But she kicked my *kitten* for sure!! :bigsmile:

    elmox-Good luck at Zumba!! Let us know how you like it. Pamper yourself. You most definitely deserve it.

    LilDebbie-You might be depriving your body. I would definitely try eating all your exercise calories for a week or two and see what happens. That's what I'm going to do this week..

    meokk-Get it girl! Awesome job on your loss! Sugar free is working for ya! :flowerforyou:

    Now that I'm up and moving around I'm starting to feel better. My chest doesn't feel so heavy. So I'm still going to hit the gym tonight!

    So I must admit I have been addidcted to Starbucks coffee the last few weeks. All sugar free non fat stuff. Well we all know there is still sugar and loaded with calories. This morning I thought I would try regular coffee (which I have never liked) with a flavored sugar free lactose free (for freaks like me who are lactose) creamer...it's YUMMY! Hope this doesn't hinder weight loss!
  • RedneckWmn
    RedneckWmn Posts: 3,202 Member
    So I posted a thread and this is what some guy responded

    You get 870 by taking 1586-716 but MFP is showing 1200+716-1586 = 330



    This is very confusing in my mind. That's not true net calories is it?
  • raiderape
    raiderape Posts: 300
    Good Morning ladies!! So far this morning has been good. The only bad thing is that I had to get up at 5:45 to help my mom get her car to the shop and take her to work. The bad part being that I had to get up that early on my day off! :sad: I know I am helping my mom out but dang! Okay enough on that!

    Jess - Glad you are starting to feel better!!

    Cris - Good luck on getting the phone today!

    lildeb - You look AWESOME!!! You can totally tell the difference. I am thinking that maybe I should take a picture now and compare it to what I look like after 30 lbs.

    Check in for yesterday
    Calories; Over not by too much
    Water: 96 oz or so and a Lg Diet Cherry Vanilla Dr. Pepper from Sonic!! YUM!! :love:
    Exercise: Some cleaning but I didn't count it.
    Proud : Nothing really

    lildebbie ...0 - 0%
    Jess...........0 - 0%
    Pos_Me.....0 - 0%
    LittleSpy....0 - 0%
    Miranda...0.6 - 0.22%
    Meokk......-2.2 - 1.16%
    cogirl........ 0 -0%
    Cris20056......0 - 0%
    raiderape......-1.0 - .36%

    Weigh I got on the scale this morning I couldn't seem to get the same reading every time. The first one was 277, then 275, 276 and then 277. So I figured that it was safer to use the higher of the three. I plan on starting my exercise routine today. I am going to give Tae bo a try today. See how well I compare to what I used to be able to do. We will see! :glasses:

    Even though we haven't many losers, I agree with lildeb that our weigh-ins next week are going to be HUGE!!!

    Hope everyone has a great day!! Stalk to ya later!
  • raiderape
    raiderape Posts: 300
    So I posted a thread and this is what some guy responded

    You get 870 by taking 1586-716 but MFP is showing 1200+716-1586 = 330



    This is very confusing in my mind. That's not true net calories is it?


    That is very confusing! I mean I see how they do the calculation but MFP shouldn't be taking the goal and doing the adding and subtracting they should take the amount eaten minus your exercise to get your net.
  • LittleSpy
    LittleSpy Posts: 6,754 Member
    So I posted a thread and this is what some guy responded

    You get 870 by taking 1586-716 but MFP is showing 1200+716-1586 = 330



    This is very confusing in my mind. That's not true net calories is it?


    That is very confusing! I mean I see how they do the calculation but MFP shouldn't be taking the goal and doing the adding and subtracting they should take the amount eaten minus your exercise to get your net.

    No, that's the net on your homepage. Meaning you have that many calories left to eat to make your daily net calorie intake 1200 or whatever your base calorie goals is. Mine is now 1290 because I changed my goals to lose 1.5#/week. So my home page tells me the "net calories" I have left to eat before my total net calories for the day is 1290. Too bad they didn't call that something different than "net calories" on the homepage.
    It's not the same net MFP includes in your "net calorie" report (or at least not in the report you can run through the website). But at least it makes sense now.
  • lildebbie
    lildebbie Posts: 2,068 Member
    So I posted a thread and this is what some guy responded

    You get 870 by taking 1586-716 but MFP is showing 1200+716-1586 = 330



    This is very confusing in my mind. That's not true net calories is it?

    That is very confusing to me too...
  • LittleSpy
    LittleSpy Posts: 6,754 Member
    Jess, when you run the REPORT on the actual website, it should show your net calories (based on your calorie intake minus your exercise calorie burn).

    The other is just telling you how much more you should eat to reach your actual "net calorie goal" which on MFP is your base calories + your exercise calories.
  • RedneckWmn
    RedneckWmn Posts: 3,202 Member
    Yeah I get what he is saying about how that is calculated. Just wished they would of named it something different. Oh well! At least we know!
  • lildebbie
    lildebbie Posts: 2,068 Member
    So I posted a thread and this is what some guy responded

    You get 870 by taking 1586-716 but MFP is showing 1200+716-1586 = 330



    This is very confusing in my mind. That's not true net calories is it?


    That is very confusing! I mean I see how they do the calculation but MFP shouldn't be taking the goal and doing the adding and subtracting they should take the amount eaten minus your exercise to get your net.

    No, that's the net on your homepage. Meaning you have that many calories left to eat to make your daily net calorie intake 1200 or whatever your base calorie goals is. Mine is now 1290 because I changed my goals to lose 1.5#/week. So my home page tells me the "net calories" I have left to eat before my total net calories for the day is 1290. Too bad they didn't call that something different than "net calories" on the homepage.
    It's not the same net MFP includes in your "net calorie" report (or at least not in the report you can run through the website). But at least it makes sense now.

    So pretty much that "Net" should equal "0", in theory...your cals + exercise = goal calories...

    But i think your right, the reports "net" calories aren't the same. Like Monday I ate 1091 cals , and burned 496 and it shows under the 700 mark but the calc of goal + exercise - cals would been around 900....

    Like when you are on the food page it just says "remaining" that is a better description i think.
  • RedneckWmn
    RedneckWmn Posts: 3,202 Member
    Yeah the app's net calories is different the web pages. I never knew that report was there. Thanks LittleSpy!! Looks like I have barley been over 800 net for awhile and that is probably way too low for my body. Definitely going to start eating my exercise calories and see where that gets me. Explains why I haven't lost much in May. Guess I'll have to eat more. DARN!
  • HonestOmnivore
    HonestOmnivore Posts: 1,356 Member
    Jess and LilDebbie - when it comes to eating low calorie, no one knows exactly how long your body will go before deciding to shift down your metabolism and slow weight loss. Long term studies have shown that if you restrict calories your rate of loss will slow but in the end you'll still lose weight as your body is forced to burn tissue (fat and other) for fuel. (think Ethiopia circa 1982 - no way to avoid losing it in the long run even if the rates slows some). HOWEVER - for HEALTHY weight loss with good nutrition yeah, you will slow your metabolism down if you go too low too long.

    Most (scientific) studies show that your metabolism won't cut over very fast- you have at least 2 days and maybe as many as a few weeks depending on how your body is wired. This is why the zig zag approach can work - and why the biggest loser techniques work on the show (usually). I am quiet happy going super low for a few days to a week after a bad string of eating days or just before the final weigh in, but I wouldn't recommend doing it for more than a week.

    LilDebbie - I think you will really start losing if you eat at LEAST a net of 1400 -1500 calories a day for a few weeks. You are bigger and you do NEED more calories to run your body's systems! Your heart has to work harder, as do your other organs - providing good fuel is crucial to being healthy. ENJOY IT FOR THE REST OF US! Remember that BlueNote is losing better now that she's been eating up to her MFP level!

    I've read theories that your body can't take a one day surplus and pack it all away in fat, but that your body CAN take a one day deficit and burn fat. Looking at my caloric intakes over my weight loss I'd say that I'm blessed with a system that does both. My diet for teh past two months has had an average daily net calories of 1275 (March) and 1379 (April) with a high of 2650 and a low of 244. I lost about 4 (FOUR) pounds over that eight week period. SOB :sad: :brokenheart: :sad: CLEARLY my body isn't losing by averages.

    My going forward plan is to be far more consistent - steady workouts for strength and health and low calories (made up of GOOD food) for weight loss. I can do this!:flowerforyou:

    And I'm going to try to get at least 600 work out calories four days a week! YES I am!:drinker:
  • lildebbie
    lildebbie Posts: 2,068 Member
    mstahl - thanks for your insight...I need to find foods that are good for me to increase my cals..i can eat the cals oh belive me i can :smile: but don't want to just add cals that are bad for me (or not nutritionally good). I am thinking drinking milk would be a good way. We only have skim milk so no fat., so it is like 80 cals serving..Milk is nutrious right?? I try to push it on my kids ..
  • RedneckWmn
    RedneckWmn Posts: 3,202 Member
    mstahl-Thank you for all the information! So I think my goal is to have AT LEAST a net of 1000 to start with if not more. I think I'm going to try that over the coarse of a few weeks and see what happens.

    Sounds like we have quite the group for the 600 calorie burn challenge! :drinker:
  • Positively_Me
    Positively_Me Posts: 1,499 Member
    hey girls, when do we start the 600 calorie challenge?

    Today, tomorrow, or Starting Monday..lol
  • cris20056
    cris20056 Posts: 1,355 Member
    lildeb- skim milk is good for you, but if you are giving it to your kids I know my pediatrician recommends whole milk or 2%.

    All this talk about net calories is making my head hurt...ouch all then umbers! lol I dont know how I ever go through math class. :embarassed:

    I'm kind of sick of trying to figure out what my body needs. I am well aware that if I am going to be burning 600 cals in my workouts that I need to eat more though. So I'm going to take my calories up to 1300 (was at 1250) and stay there. No zigzagging no shocking my metabolism...its 1300 and thats it! We'll see if I have to re-evaluate later :grumble:
  • cris20056
    cris20056 Posts: 1,355 Member
    pos_me- I think we agreed that we are setting a goal of 600 calories burned 4 times per week. So as long as you do it 4 times during the week (Friday to Friday..I suppose is 'our week') then challenge met! I plan on just adding "calories burned" to my check in
  • RedneckWmn
    RedneckWmn Posts: 3,202 Member
    We could start it today. I'm going for at least 700 for 2 more days..Now-Sunday. I may take today off and rest and do it on Saturday and Sunday.

    Cris-It is very hard figuring out what your body likes. Trial and error. It kinda sucks. Oh well!
  • ColoradoGirl
    ColoradoGirl Posts: 423 Member
    Ok.. so I must be having a blond moment.. because I am totally confused. Basically I should be eating my calories until the net says "0"... right?
  • LittleSpy
    LittleSpy Posts: 6,754 Member
    Ok.. so I must be having a blond moment.. because I am totally confused. Basically I should be eating my calories until the net says "0"... right?

    The net under the "My Home" tab, sure. It's the same number as the "remaining" calories in your food diary.
  • ColoradoGirl
    ColoradoGirl Posts: 423 Member
    ok.. thanks lilspy.. still don't really grasp it.. but, as long as I know what to shoot for.. I won't worry as to the logistics of it. Numbers are NOT my friend.
  • cris20056
    cris20056 Posts: 1,355 Member
    Julie I cant get over how skinny your face looks in your pic
  • LittleSpy
    LittleSpy Posts: 6,754 Member
    Julie I cant get over how skinny your face looks in your pic

    Thanks. So much freaking better, right?! :laugh:
    Even though I'm not losing weight very quickly, I really do see changes in my face, my tummy, and around my collar & hip bones nearly daily. It's very bizarre.

    Edit: That reminded me yesterday I was looking in the mirror and realized my double (ahem.. triple) chin has like.. almost completely disappeared. I have to press my chin way into my neck for it to appear. I've never actually had a jawline before, I'm kind of excited. :laugh:
  • lildebbie
    lildebbie Posts: 2,068 Member
    littlspy - wtg on no more doubl chin !! YOur face does look very very thin :smile:

    Chris - The pd said for them it is okay....or at least lat time i asked. When they were 1 they said whole milk, 2 they said 2% after 2 they said they could have skim. They have 2% at school.

    Well different lunch today..no working out , but we are all going tonight...hoping that friday night is not croweded at gym since people with lives probably go out and stuff :laugh: :laugh:

    I had to go get the pool card for our HOA pool this summer , and then i had to go Kroger...So i am cutting it close on gettinb back iand i stopped at sonic. I know it is high in sodium..but i will live i guess..

    back to work oh yay...there is some nasty storm coming our way...hbpe it leaves soon.
  • cris20056
    cris20056 Posts: 1,355 Member
    Lildeb- I always go to the gym on Friday thinking its going to be empty cause "hello people its friday!" but nooooo its a mad house. I think people try to get in their workouts before relaxing for the weekend, I dunno but its always crowded at my gym on Fridays :grumble:
  • lildebbie
    lildebbie Posts: 2,068 Member
    Lildeb- I always go to the gym on Friday thinking its going to be empty cause "hello people its friday!" but nooooo its a mad house. I think people try to get in their workouts before relaxing for the weekend, I dunno but its always crowded at my gym on Fridays :grumble:

    :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: Uggg....I would hope it would be dead...guess we will see. We will go after dinner ...Tonight i plan to do some cardio, weights and try out the pool. Will probably do some laps(or try to ) and then me and hubby soaking in the hot tub a little bit.
  • RedneckWmn
    RedneckWmn Posts: 3,202 Member
    My gym is always packed on Friday's too. Shoot if I go anytime during the week between 5-6 you have to park 10 miles away and your lucky if you can snag a cardio machine. There's probably 50 there and it's always packed! Rush hour!!

    LittleSpy-Congrats on no double chin! That's awesome! I think I'm almost there...still don't like my side profile shot though.
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