For everyone NOT losing or Stalling Out! READ THIS NOW!

mmcyen04

exactly what i needed to read/hear today. thank you.

katejkelley

Great advice! I am going to incorporate more weight training into my workouts. I know it makes a huge difference.

ergumm

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Yeah..I read this whole post and you, OP do come off as very rude and bossy. Sorry but who do you think you are to be telling people what to do. I see it irritates you and all when others post about not losing and all that crap but maybe you should just not pay attention to it. Honestly I would rather read a worrisome post about a plateau than what I just read here. Just goes to show how many people in this community are flat out rude and high and mighty. People worry and post things..if that's their thing then so be it. I admit I posted a couple threads with my concerns. .not plateau related by the way..and maybe it might have annoyed some but oh f***ing well. That is all I am going to say. Have a nice day.

THIS

I think we tend to forget that although many of us are now schooled in how to calculate things and diet, this is a SUPPORT forum which means many new members join daily and do not know the ins and outs that we do - so what seems repetitive to us, is new to them and they are seeking advice and patience. I think if it seems repetitive and annoying to someone reading it, then move on and don't comment - but why discourage the people truly seeking help and answers and mainly our support - it just comes across as rude and people will end up leaving thinking they cannot get help here..........just my two cents..............

Very well said. I agree 100%!!! I come here for positive, encouraging help, not to be treated like an idiot or made to feel like I don't deserve to be here because I might post something that people have read before! Either take a minute of your time to kindly answer my question, or leave no response at all. Don't act like you are better or more deserving because you have been here longer and understand all the ins and outs of posting and have the time to read hundreds of posts to find the one that will help you!

lovemitch125

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Yeah..I read this whole post and you, OP do come off as very rude and bossy. Sorry but who do you think you are to be telling people what to do. I see it irritates you and all when others post about not losing and all that crap but maybe you should just not pay attention to it. Honestly I would rather read a worrisome post about a plateau than what I just read here. Just goes to show how many people in this community are flat out rude and high and mighty. People worry and post things..if that's their thing then so be it. I admit I posted a couple threads with my concerns. .not plateau related by the way..and maybe it might have annoyed some but oh f***ing well. That is all I am going to say. Have a nice day.

THIS

I think we tend to forget that although many of us are now schooled in how to calculate things and diet, this is a SUPPORT forum which means many new members join daily and do not know the ins and outs that we do - so what seems repetitive to us, is new to them and they are seeking advice and patience. I think if it seems repetitive and annoying to someone reading it, then move on and don't comment - but why discourage the people truly seeking help and answers and mainly our support - it just comes across as rude and people will end up leaving thinking they cannot get help here..........just my two cents..............

Very well said. I agree 100%!!! I come here for positive, encouraging help, not to be treated like an idiot or made to feel like I don't deserve to be here because I might post something that people have read before! Either take a minute of your time to kindly answer my question, or leave no response at all. Don't act like you are better or more deserving because you have been here longer and understand all the ins and outs of posting and have the time to read hundreds of posts to find the one that will help you!

Actually I have not been here that long, and in no way was anything that I said discouraging. I am sorry if you took it that way, I was just saying what I thought people should know. If you don't like the WAY that I said it, then so be it, it was still said.

Greenlola

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flynnegan

Thank you thank you thank you!! This is exactly what i needed to read. I am 13 lbs from goal weigh and ive been stuck here, eating 1300 cals or less a day and burning 4 or 500 a day Running and JMBR. I get so frustrated and throw in the towel for a week or so, eat rings around myself go up 2 lbs and then start again and loose the 2lbs!! I recently upped my cals but im half sicky at the moment so not logging! I will try the uppe cals on monday-i ordered heavier weights and will keep up my running! I will come back in a month if im still stuck

jen81uk

Ironic that this is ONE MORE post about something that has already been said 100 times before in other posts, especially since this poster says "READ ABOUT THIS BEFORE YOU MAKE ANOTHER THREAD ABOUT THIS!"

^^ haha true xx

balancedbrunette

well said

crisanderson27

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Yeah..I read this whole post and you, OP do come off as very rude and bossy. Sorry but who do you think you are to be telling people what to do. I see it irritates you and all when others post about not losing and all that crap but maybe you should just not pay attention to it. Honestly I would rather read a worrisome post about a plateau than what I just read here. Just goes to show how many people in this community are flat out rude and high and mighty. People worry and post things..if that's their thing then so be it. I admit I posted a couple threads with my concerns. .not plateau related by the way..and maybe it might have annoyed some but oh f***ing well. That is all I am going to say. Have a nice day.

THIS

I think we tend to forget that although many of us are now schooled in how to calculate things and diet, this is a SUPPORT forum which means many new members join daily and do not know the ins and outs that we do - so what seems repetitive to us, is new to them and they are seeking advice and patience. I think if it seems repetitive and annoying to someone reading it, then move on and don't comment - but why discourage the people truly seeking help and answers and mainly our support - it just comes across as rude and people will end up leaving thinking they cannot get help here..........just my two cents..............

Very well said. I agree 100%!!! I come here for positive, encouraging help, not to be treated like an idiot or made to feel like I don't deserve to be here because I might post something that people have read before! Either take a minute of your time to kindly answer my question, or leave no response at all. Don't act like you are better or more deserving because you have been here longer and understand all the ins and outs of posting and have the time to read hundreds of posts to find the one that will help you!

Actually I have not been here that long, and in no way was anything that I said discouraging. I am sorry if you took it that way, I was just saying what I thought people should know. If you don't like the WAY that I said it, then so be it, it was still said.

There will always be people who hate hearing the truth unless you sugar coat it to the point where its no longer is even recognizable.

Ignore them...your post was solid.

jofjltncb6

Maybe you should be a little kinder if you are trying to be helpful. Or if you don't have anything nice to say - keep quiet!

In...

...because ^this wasn't very "nice" at all.

bakerseve17

Like.

donyellemoniquex3

amen

bcattoes

Second, do not just do cardio, like my idiot self, I decided that cardio would be the way to lose. It was BUT I lost a lot of muscle mass in the process. Also, as well as weight lifting and ab workouts with weights build muscle mass, and speed up your metabolism and heart rate, it also helps you burns calories for the next 48 hours as opposed to cardio which stops burning calories as soon as you stop.

While the advice to do resistance and cardio is good advice. It's not true that you stop burning calories as soon as you stop doing cardio. You may stop burning soon after, but you may continue to burn for several hours. It just depends on you and what type of cardio you are doing.

neanderthin

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Second, do not just do cardio, like my idiot self, I decided that cardio would be the way to lose. It was BUT I lost a lot of muscle mass in the process. Also, as well as weight lifting and ab workouts with weights build muscle mass, and speed up your metabolism and heart rate, it also helps you burns calories for the next 48 hours as opposed to cardio which stops burning calories as soon as you stop.

While the advice to do resistance and cardio is good advice. It's not true that you stop burning calories as soon as you stop doing cardio. You may stop burning soon after, but you may continue to burn for several hours. It just depends on you and what type of cardio you are doing.

Clinically it's called statistically insignificant. Even HIIT doesn't equate to much either when post workout movement/activity has been adjusted downwards, basically people move less (referred to as NEAT) after a tough workout and compensates for any after burn, but of course this doesn't mean everyone.

bcattoes

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Second, do not just do cardio, like my idiot self, I decided that cardio would be the way to lose. It was BUT I lost a lot of muscle mass in the process. Also, as well as weight lifting and ab workouts with weights build muscle mass, and speed up your metabolism and heart rate, it also helps you burns calories for the next 48 hours as opposed to cardio which stops burning calories as soon as you stop.

While the advice to do resistance and cardio is good advice. It's not true that you stop burning calories as soon as you stop doing cardio. You may stop burning soon after, but you may continue to burn for several hours. It just depends on you and what type of cardio you are doing.

Clinically it's called statistically insignificant. Even HIIT doesn't equate to much either when post workout movement/activity has been adjusted downwards, basically people move less (referred to as NEAT) after a tough workout and compensates for any after burn, but of course this doesn't mean everyone.

Statistically insignificant in what way? And how does it compare to the amount of calories burned by having more muscle?

Does HIIT actually qualify as cardio? I always thought cardio = aerobic. When doing HIIT I doubt you'd be in the aerobic zone much.

ndj1979

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Ironic that this is ONE MORE post about something that has already been said 100 times before in other posts, especially since this poster says "READ ABOUT THIS BEFORE YOU MAKE ANOTHER THREAD ABOUT THIS!"

Very true. But most of the people I was directed at, do not want advice, they just want to complain. I just thought I should get as much advice I could out there in one post instead of posting on every single person's complaining thread. But I understand. lol.

...Isn't that what this post is? A complaint because of all of the complainers?

I believe this is the complaint, about the other complaint, about this complaint to end all complaints ...understand?

neanderthin

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Second, do not just do cardio, like my idiot self, I decided that cardio would be the way to lose. It was BUT I lost a lot of muscle mass in the process. Also, as well as weight lifting and ab workouts with weights build muscle mass, and speed up your metabolism and heart rate, it also helps you burns calories for the next 48 hours as opposed to cardio which stops burning calories as soon as you stop.

While the advice to do resistance and cardio is good advice. It's not true that you stop burning calories as soon as you stop doing cardio. You may stop burning soon after, but you may continue to burn for several hours. It just depends on you and what type of cardio you are doing.

Clinically it's called statistically insignificant. Even HIIT doesn't equate to much either when post workout movement/activity has been adjusted downwards, basically people move less (referred to as NEAT) after a tough workout and compensates for any after burn, but of course this doesn't mean everyone.

Statistically insignificant in what way? And how does it compare to the amount of calories burned by having more muscle?

Does HIIT actually qualify as cardio? I always thought cardio = aerobic. When doing HIIT I doubt you'd be in the aerobic zone much.

The after burn from aerobic and anaerobic cardio, which HIIT is, doesn't equate to much value calorie burn wise after adjusting for neat, which means None Exercise Activity Thermogenesis, basically daily movement other than deliberate exercise.

bcattoes

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Second, do not just do cardio, like my idiot self, I decided that cardio would be the way to lose. It was BUT I lost a lot of muscle mass in the process. Also, as well as weight lifting and ab workouts with weights build muscle mass, and speed up your metabolism and heart rate, it also helps you burns calories for the next 48 hours as opposed to cardio which stops burning calories as soon as you stop.

While the advice to do resistance and cardio is good advice. It's not true that you stop burning calories as soon as you stop doing cardio. You may stop burning soon after, but you may continue to burn for several hours. It just depends on you and what type of cardio you are doing.

Clinically it's called statistically insignificant. Even HIIT doesn't equate to much either when post workout movement/activity has been adjusted downwards, basically people move less (referred to as NEAT) after a tough workout and compensates for any after burn, but of course this doesn't mean everyone.

Statistically insignificant in what way? And how does it compare to the amount of calories burned by having more muscle?

Does HIIT actually qualify as cardio? I always thought cardio = aerobic. When doing HIIT I doubt you'd be in the aerobic zone much.

The after burn from aerobic and anaerobic cardio, which HIIT is, doesn't equate to much value calorie burn wise after adjusting for neat, which means None Exercise Activity Thermogenesis, basically daily movement other than deliberate exercise.

Hmm, I'm remembering a study done at a NC university that showed an average afterburn of 14 hours for cardio (exercise bike, I believe) among the participants, which were described as fit young men (or something similar). 14 hours seems significant, even if the burn was only slightly more than at rest w/o cardio.

But it's been a while since I read that study. Maybe I'll look it up to re-read later.

SimplyDenyse

I needed to read this today...

sphomphak

true dat :laugh:

KAR1959

Great post!

neanderthin

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Second, do not just do cardio, like my idiot self, I decided that cardio would be the way to lose. It was BUT I lost a lot of muscle mass in the process. Also, as well as weight lifting and ab workouts with weights build muscle mass, and speed up your metabolism and heart rate, it also helps you burns calories for the next 48 hours as opposed to cardio which stops burning calories as soon as you stop.

While the advice to do resistance and cardio is good advice. It's not true that you stop burning calories as soon as you stop doing cardio. You may stop burning soon after, but you may continue to burn for several hours. It just depends on you and what type of cardio you are doing.

Clinically it's called statistically insignificant. Even HIIT doesn't equate to much either when post workout movement/activity has been adjusted downwards, basically people move less (referred to as NEAT) after a tough workout and compensates for any after burn, but of course this doesn't mean everyone.

Statistically insignificant in what way? And how does it compare to the amount of calories burned by having more muscle?

Does HIIT actually qualify as cardio? I always thought cardio = aerobic. When doing HIIT I doubt you'd be in the aerobic zone much.

The after burn from aerobic and anaerobic cardio, which HIIT is, doesn't equate to much value calorie burn wise after adjusting for neat, which means None Exercise Activity Thermogenesis, basically daily movement other than deliberate exercise.

Hmm, I'm remembering a study done at a NC university that showed an average afterburn of 14 hours for cardio (exercise bike, I believe) among the participants, which were described as fit young men (or something similar). 14 hours seems significant, even if the burn was only slightly more than at rest w/o cardio.

But it's been a while since I read that study. Maybe I'll look it up to re-read later.

All studies show after burn and why we're talking about it, but anytime exercise is performed, especially at higher intensity people tend to not move as much after as compared to a day they didn't exercise....basically any calories from the after burn are compensated by less normal activity, In other words as far as weight loss is concerned the after burn is clinically insignificant. Don't really know any other way of explaining it, sorry.

bcattoes

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Second, do not just do cardio, like my idiot self, I decided that cardio would be the way to lose. It was BUT I lost a lot of muscle mass in the process. Also, as well as weight lifting and ab workouts with weights build muscle mass, and speed up your metabolism and heart rate, it also helps you burns calories for the next 48 hours as opposed to cardio which stops burning calories as soon as you stop.

While the advice to do resistance and cardio is good advice. It's not true that you stop burning calories as soon as you stop doing cardio. You may stop burning soon after, but you may continue to burn for several hours. It just depends on you and what type of cardio you are doing.

Clinically it's called statistically insignificant. Even HIIT doesn't equate to much either when post workout movement/activity has been adjusted downwards, basically people move less (referred to as NEAT) after a tough workout and compensates for any after burn, but of course this doesn't mean everyone.

Statistically insignificant in what way? And how does it compare to the amount of calories burned by having more muscle?

Does HIIT actually qualify as cardio? I always thought cardio = aerobic. When doing HIIT I doubt you'd be in the aerobic zone much.

The after burn from aerobic and anaerobic cardio, which HIIT is, doesn't equate to much value calorie burn wise after adjusting for neat, which means None Exercise Activity Thermogenesis, basically daily movement other than deliberate exercise.

Hmm, I'm remembering a study done at a NC university that showed an average afterburn of 14 hours for cardio (exercise bike, I believe) among the participants, which were described as fit young men (or something similar). 14 hours seems significant, even if the burn was only slightly more than at rest w/o cardio.

But it's been a while since I read that study. Maybe I'll look it up to re-read later.

All studies show after burn and why we're talking about it, but anytime exercise is performed, especially at higher intensity people tend to not move as much after as compared to a day they didn't exercise....basically any calories from the after burn are compensated by less normal activity, In other words as far as weight loss is concerned the after burn is clinically insignificant. Don't really know any other way of explaining it, sorry.

So even though we are burning more at rest, we are at rest more, so not burning more overall? That's interesting. But surely that would not apply only to cardio.

DeeDiddyGee

LOVE, LOVE, LOVE this post!

neanderthin

So even though we are burning more at rest, we are at rest more, so not burning more overall? That's interesting. But surely that would not apply only to cardio.

Yes that's right, you said it better than I did....lol. The more intense the more we need to rest, or do it subconsciously. That applies to weight resistance as well.

pattyfitzroy

great post, thank you!

kimosabe1

I just decided.... U ARE AWESOME!

kristen6022

Thanks so much for this...

But I know someone out there is thinking "What if I'm the only little special snowflake out there and I need to do more?"...my answer to this will always be, they aren't that special. These suggestions work for EVERYONE. The problem is that most people are their own worse enemy and they make it harder than it really is.

purplelizzard

you are amazing!

bcattoes

Thanks so much for this...

But I know someone out there is thinking "What if I'm the only little special snowflake out there and I need to do more?"...my answer to this will always be, they aren't that special. These suggestions work for EVERYONE. The problem is that most people are their own worse enemy and they make it harder than it really is.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. While the special snowflakes are not the norm, they do exist. There are a number of medical conditions that change the rules for weight loss.