Keto?
Mandino788
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I'm considering trying a ketogenic diet starting on Friday (when I get paid). I figure, I'll go to the grocery store and get the keto friendly foods, try it out for the 2 week pay period, and if I don't like it (or it's too hard for this carb junkie) I'll just get my normal "diet" foods the following pay period.
Any advice? I'm not a HUGE meat eater but I could work on it. Where do you get your favorite recipes? And can I eat blue cheese salad dressing? It's low carb lol
Any advice? I'm not a HUGE meat eater but I could work on it. Where do you get your favorite recipes? And can I eat blue cheese salad dressing? It's low carb lol
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If you like carbs so much, why are you going to try Keto?0
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Keto was the best thing for me. I highly recommend it! Basically, you have to change your mindset on carbs. Carbs = sugar. If you eat carbs, it will be stored longer in your body. If you eat that plate of pasta, or a sandwich, or a piece of cake, that food is easily digestible and will last a long time in your system and it will take forever to try and burn it off. I have been doing keto since December with periods of LCHF and have lost 19 pounds and my SO lost 30. My triglycerides went down 140. I now have proof that keto does work.
The best info I found was the keto community on http://www.reddit.com/r/keto/ Check out r/ketorecipes and r/theketodiet also. Read the sidebars and you can figure out your macros with the keto calculator that is listed. There are great sites also in the sidebar for recipes. Also check out http://www.ibreatheimhungry.com/ I just had the cream cheese pancakes this morning!
Easiest menu I have found is eggs and turkey bacon (I'm not much of a pork eater) for breakfast. Salad and protein for lunch. Salad, side of vegetables, and protein for dinner. Change up the salads. Eat lots of spinach, broccoli and cauliflower. I make a great cauliflower pizza. Cheesecake cupcakes http://t1dandglutenfree.com/cheesecake-cupcakes are the best. We use Newman's Italian, Ken's Blue Cheese dressing, or Hidden Valley Ranch. Beware of hidden sugars...read the labels especially in sauces, dressings, and BBQ sauce.
You can do it!0 -
How much water weight do you gain from drinking water?0
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I know Keto may have worked for some, but to me it sounds like just another fad diet. Keto severely slashes carbs...sometimes to fewer than 100g/day; that's not healthy nor sustainable.0
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i would go low carb first then if you can handle the depletion of carbs start a KETO diet . i love my carbs (simple or complex) and when i cut them out of my diet i am miserable person. Granted i feel healthier lighter happier in the aspect of a physical standpoint but when i see or smell some carbs its a trigger. best of luck lol0
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I know Keto may have worked for some, but to me it sounds like just another fad diet. Keto severely slashes carbs...sometimes to fewer than 100g/day; that's not healthy nor sustainable.
Fads don't last 40 years. Less than 100 g of carbs per day is perfectly sustainable, and is perfectly healthy.0 -
I know Keto may have worked for some, but to me it sounds like just another fad diet. Keto severely slashes carbs...sometimes to fewer than 100g/day; that's not healthy nor sustainable.
Ketogenic diets have been around since the 1920s. It's got a lot of research behind it and it's perfectly healthy if done correctly.0 -
I know Keto may have worked for some, but to me it sounds like just another fad diet. Keto severely slashes carbs...sometimes to fewer than 100g/day; that's not healthy nor sustainable.
Fads don't last 40 years. Less than 100 g of carbs per day is perfectly sustainable, and is perfectly healthy.
Meh, that may be. Still, 100g of carbs is equal to roughly 3 bananas. Cutting carbs that much will make you feel tired/moody all the time.0 -
Ketogenic diets have been around since the 1920s. It's got a lot of research behind it and it's perfectly healthy if done correctly.
You got me beat by 50 years.:laugh: I knew it went back to at least the 70s when I had a little booklet saying to keep carbs to < 55g/day. So that's even better that it goes back at least 90 years.0 -
Ketogenic diets have been around since the 1920s. It's got a lot of research behind it and it's perfectly healthy if done correctly.
You got me beat by 50 years.:laugh: I knew it went back to at least the 70s when I had a little booklet saying to keep carbs to < 55g/day. So that's even better that it goes back at least 90 years.
LOL no problem. It was designed in the 20s for epileptics and was very popular up until the advent of the first anti-seizure drugs and then was forgotten about until pretty recently (Maybe around the 70s as you originally said) I believe they also used to treat diabetics with a similar diet which might be why its so effective for those with metabolic disorders0 -
I know Keto may have worked for some, but to me it sounds like just another fad diet. Keto severely slashes carbs...sometimes to fewer than 100g/day; that's not healthy nor sustainable.
Ketogenic diets have been around since the 1920s. It's got a lot of research behind it and it's perfectly healthy if done correctly.
Therapeutic keto was developed in the 1920's for epilepsy, but was more-or-less phased out with the introduction of medicine to control episodes. That said, it does seem to have a modicum of effectiveness for those with epilepsy.0 -
I know Keto may have worked for some, but to me it sounds like just another fad diet. Keto severely slashes carbs...sometimes to fewer than 100g/day; that's not healthy nor sustainable.
Ketogenic diets have been around since the 1920s. It's got a lot of research behind it and it's perfectly healthy if done correctly.
Therapeutic keto was developed in the 1920's for epilepsy, but was more-or-less phased out with the introduction of medicine to control episodes. That said, it does seem to have a modicum of effectiveness for those with epilepsy.
Not a ' modicum' of effectiveness, quite the contrary.0 -
Meh, that may be. Still, 100g of carbs is equal to roughly 3 bananas. Cutting carbs that much will make you feel tired/moody all the time.
Three bananas are almost pure sugar. Talk about a carb crash.
I've done two-hour mountain bike trail rides jumping roots with no problem while on keto. We carry fat because it's energy dense. The body "prefers" to use carbs because it's easier to convert to energy, and the body is lazy. The first tissue the body jettisons during starvation is muscle, because muscle is hungry and energy-expensive. So the body ditches it. To store our energy as carbohydrate we'd need to store so much we could not move. Fat is the most efficient form of energy. A proper keto diet is not no-carb, it's low carb, with the carbs coming from from leaves, i.e. vegs. and most of the energy coming from fat.0 -
I know Keto may have worked for some, but to me it sounds like just another fad diet. Keto severely slashes carbs...sometimes to fewer than 100g/day; that's not healthy nor sustainable.
Fads don't last 40 years. Less than 100 g of carbs per day is perfectly sustainable, and is perfectly healthy.
1. It is essential to maintain the proper percentages of food intake. 65% fat, 35% protein, 5% carbs. Too much protein and you can do serious damage to your body. Its kinda hard to get too much protein, but make sure you are careful.
2. You still want to keep a low calorie intake. I did keto for many months and recommend it, but there is quite a bit of debate on if its the ketosis that causes the weight loss, or if the diet naturally causes you to be in a calorie deficit. That said, its MUCH easier to maintain a calorie deficit when you get to eat all the bacon you want.
As to OP's question, the best resources for recipes I found are:
http://reddit.com/r/keto (look for FP [Food Porn] posts)
http://reddit.com/r/ketorecipes
http://cavemanketo.com0 -
Keto is no fad diet!!! Keto never makes me tired or moody but the opposite!!! If you love carbs like me, you may like me not be able to control how much you eat, hence keto is perfect. Losing all those cravings for the awful processed junk and sugar we love is such freedom. Feeling so much healthier from eating much less white flour and sugar and junk and from eating good fats and greens is wonderful!!!!!!! Having less choice is not always a bad thing; why are we so demanding about having it all??!0
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If this is something you really want to do I say go for it. I feel it's harder to focus on eating well when you deprive yourself of whole food groups though. You can lose weight no matter what you eat if you exercise...I couldn't find the full article that discussed the various other examples and studies off hand (I will try to keep looking) but I remember this specific story and wanted to share it:
"Twinkie diet helps nutrition professor lose 27 pounds" --> http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html
You don't have to go on XYZ diet to lose weight. Just use your best judgement and eat well and exercise. Best of luck to you though!!0 -
I know Keto may have worked for some, but to me it sounds like just another fad diet. Keto severely slashes carbs...sometimes to fewer than 100g/day; that's not healthy nor sustainable.
Sure its sustainable as long as you are not a heavy exerciser or professional athlete. I did the C25K on keto with no ill effects. It wasn't until I decided I wanted to run a half marathon that I brought more carbs into my diet. The only real issue I had with keto was trying to find somewhere to go out and eat.0 -
Therapeutic keto was developed in the 1920's for epilepsy, but was more-or-less phased out with the introduction of medicine to control episodes. That said, it does seem to have a modicum of effectiveness for those with epilepsy.
This is all written in the present tense:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18301085
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I'm considering trying a ketogenic diet starting on Friday (when I get paid). I figure, I'll go to the grocery store and get the keto friendly foods, try it out for the 2 week pay period, and if I don't like it (or it's too hard for this carb junkie) I'll just get my normal "diet" foods the following pay period.
Any advice? I'm not a HUGE meat eater but I could work on it. Where do you get your favorite recipes? And can I eat blue cheese salad dressing? It's low carb lol
Oh, and to answer your question, I love the http://eatketo.com/ blog. Lots of great keto ideas
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How much water weight do you gain from drinking water?
Water weighs one pound for every 16 oz, or a pound per large glass0 -
I know Keto may have worked for some, but to me it sounds like just another fad diet. Keto severely slashes carbs...sometimes to fewer than 100g/day; that's not healthy nor sustainable.
Fads don't last 40 years. Less than 100 g of carbs per day is perfectly sustainable, and is perfectly healthy.
Meh, that may be. Still, 100g of carbs is equal to roughly 3 bananas. Cutting carbs that much will make you feel tired/moody all the time.
Not at all. I almost always eat less that 100g of carbs/day and feel great (and have a lot of energy for workouts). People feel like crap when they don't eat enough fat. (or when they eat too many carbohydrates and then crash). And, FYI, it IS sustainable and is not a fad. And it's delicious.0 -
I know Keto may have worked for some, but to me it sounds like just another fad diet. Keto severely slashes carbs...sometimes to fewer than 100g/day; that's not healthy nor sustainable.
Sure its sustainable as long as you are not a heavy exerciser or professional athlete. I did the C25K on keto with no ill effects. It wasn't until I decided I wanted to run a half marathon that I brought more carbs into my diet. The only real issue I had with keto was trying to find somewhere to go out and eat.
Good point. I'm a pretty heavy exerciser (walking and biking) and <100g carbs/day would make me sick. I probably should have pointed that out from the get-go.0 -
I know Keto may have worked for some, but to me it sounds like just another fad diet. Keto severely slashes carbs...sometimes to fewer than 100g/day; that's not healthy nor sustainable.
Fads don't last 40 years. Less than 100 g of carbs per day is perfectly sustainable, and is perfectly healthy.
1. It is essential to maintain the proper percentages of food intake. 65% fat, 35% protein, 5% carbs. Too much protein and you can do serious damage to your body. Its kinda hard to get too much protein, but make sure you are careful.
2. You still want to keep a low calorie intake. I did keto for many months and recommend it, but there is quite a bit of debate on if its the ketosis that causes the weight loss, or if the diet naturally causes you to be in a calorie deficit. That said, its MUCH easier to maintain a calorie deficit when you get to eat all the bacon you want.
As to OP's question, the best resources for recipes I found are:
http://reddit.com/r/keto (look for FP [Food Porn] posts)
http://reddit.com/r/ketorecipes
http://cavemanketo.com
The problem is that people think a ketogenic diet is all bacon and Jimmy Dean sausages. They don't realize a keto meal is a salmon steak or filet, or roast chicken or lamb w/ vegs. and olive oil; or a Greek salad with chicken and/or shrimp added, and olive oil; or a caesar salad with chicken and/or shrimp. Meat, fish, birds, eggs, leaves, berries is a keto diet. Sounds kinda primal and paleo too.0 -
I've been in Ketosis since last Wednesday. The only time I felt tired was the few hours as my body switched over. I feel exactly the same as before now. My body will fully convert to using ketones over the next 2 weeks.
Bear in mind though that for a "fat loss diet", ketosis is not necessary. Just having low carbs is fine. That's a quote from the man that designed the Ketogenic Diet.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/0 -
I LOVE
THE KETO LIFE! :drinker:
Two weeks is a great start, and that's how long I gave myself when I started too!
Absolute yes on the blue cheese salad dressing! and ranch! just watch the nutrition label for any hidden sugars or carbs or the "lowfat" stuff, lowfat usually means they add sugar.
I get my favorite recipes from:
-www.genaw.com this lady is a genius, and posts comments and ratings on most of her recipes, and indicates with a "*" which ones are the lowest carb and are suitable for "induction" which is <20 net grams (carbs minus fiber) per day on your low carb diet.
-http://www.lowcarb-recipes.net/
and I just want to share my FAVORITE low carb dessert with everyone!, a molten lava cake:
http://healthyindulgences.net/2009/01/healthy-molten-chocolate-lava-cake/ I just subsituted the regular flour with coconut flour.
In regards to what to eat:
www.theketogenicdiet.com is awesome this list is directly from them!
•Any meat (such as beef, venison, pork, veal, lamb) in any just about any cut or preparation, though check the carb content of processed meat products like sausages and ensure you don’t buy anything cured with sugar or honey.
•Any poultry (chicken, turkey, quail, duck etc.). It is preferable to leave the skin on poultry to increase the fat content. Poultry must not be breaded or battered, but can otherwise be prepared any way you like, roasted, stir fried, deep fried, baked, grilled or barbecued.
•Fish and shellfish. They should be fresh – things like imitation crab meat often contain added carbs – and if you buy canned fish make sure it hasn’t been preserved with added sugar. Again, it must not be breaded or battered.
•Eggs. You will probably find that eggs become a staple when you are on a ketogenic diet.
•Cheese. Most types of cheese are suitable for a ketogenic diet, though they do contain some carbs, so make sure you include these in your daily carb count to ensure you stay below your limit.
•Vegetables. Vegetables will be the source of most of the carbs you eat, but you still need to choose the lowest carb vegetables with the best nutritional value. Green leafy vegetables are the best, such as spinach, all kinds of lettuce and cabbage, watercress, Brussels sprouts and kale. You can also eat broccoli and cauliflower, celery, cucumber, asparagus, bean sprouts, radishes and more, but must strictly limit you intake of sugary vegetables like peppers, onions and tomatoes, and avoid starchy vegetables like potatoes.
•Nuts can be eaten in moderation as a snack.
•Most kinds of oil, butter and cream can be used in cooking.
•Fresh herbs and dry spices can be used for flavor.
•Mayonnaise and oil based salad dressings are usually OK, but check the carb content on the bottle.
•Artificial Sweeteners such as Splenda can be used in place of sugar.
My instagram is: http://instagram.com/jessicaonketo if you'd like to see first hand what I eat.
I would advise to try to research it first if your still thinking about it, low carb high fat is NOT for everyone, but it does work out for some of us here
With a conventional high carb, low fat diet, I found myself weak, HUNGRY, and angry about 85% of the time, and not satisfied with my "healthy choices" that weren't making me feel healthy. I tried it out for a good month or so, but I was just, simply put, not in a good place mentally or physically.
Keto helped me deal with my HUNGER. Which is the #1 reason that I fail at most diets, I get so hungry, I ended up binge eating everything I was moderating. With High Fat, and Low Carb, I have more energy, I am more focused, and can eat healthy, satisfying foods that keep me full longer then carbs.
Yes the cravings suck, I used to eat fast food every single day, pizza, fries, pasta etc, but as a recovering carb-aholic, I can say, it can be done, and you can overcome those cravings! And now, I find tons of subsitutes for pizza/pasta/burgers etc.
Now, I mainly eat a tons of vegetables, healthy fats (nuts, avocados, coconut oil, butter), and meat. What's not to love?
P.S. if anyone would like to add me, feel free to do so! I'm open to all questions/concerns about low carb too!
Good luck!! :drinker: :flowerforyou:0 -
Even the late Dr. Atkins said on Larry King Live many years ago that endurance athletes will not do well on a ketogenic diet. For those people, carbs are a better foundation macro.0
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I know Keto may have worked for some, but to me it sounds like just another fad diet. Keto severely slashes carbs...sometimes to fewer than 100g/day; that's not healthy nor sustainable.
Fads don't last 40 years. Less than 100 g of carbs per day is perfectly sustainable, and is perfectly healthy.
This is also a good point. A lot of the research I did seemed to focus on "bacon all the time", so I just deduced that it was fad diet. I guess I was misinformed :-(
Still, I don't think it's for everyone. It depends on your fitness goals. Like I said, I'm pretty active (especially on my bike) so I need more than ~100g carbs/day.
1. It is essential to maintain the proper percentages of food intake. 65% fat, 35% protein, 5% carbs. Too much protein and you can do serious damage to your body. Its kinda hard to get too much protein, but make sure you are careful.
2. You still want to keep a low calorie intake. I did keto for many months and recommend it, but there is quite a bit of debate on if its the ketosis that causes the weight loss, or if the diet naturally causes you to be in a calorie deficit. That said, its MUCH easier to maintain a calorie deficit when you get to eat all the bacon you want.
As to OP's question, the best resources for recipes I found are:
http://reddit.com/r/keto (look for FP [Food Porn] posts)
http://reddit.com/r/ketorecipes
http://cavemanketo.com
The problem is that people think a ketogenic diet is all bacon and Jimmy Dean sausages. They don't realize a keto meal is a salmon steak or filet, or roast chicken or lamb w/ vegs. and olive oil; or a Greek salad with chicken and/or shrimp added, and olive oil; or a caesar salad with chicken and/or shrimp. Meat, fish, birds, eggs, leaves, berries is a keto diet. Sounds kinda primal and paleo too.
Most of the stuff I researched seemed to bill it as an "all-bacon diet" so from that I inferred that it must be a fad. I guess I was misinformed. :-(
Still, I don't think it's for everyone. Like I said, I'm a regular cyclist so ~100g carbs/day won't cut it for me. I need at least 120/day. I also think Keto allows for a lot more fatty/greasy foods that would make me feel like crap.0 -
Most of the stuff I researched seemed to bill it as an "all-bacon diet" so from that I inferred that it must be a fad. I guess I was misinformed. :-(
Still, I don't think it's for everyone. Like I said, I'm a regular cyclist so ~100g carbs/day won't cut it for me. I need at least 120/day. I also think Keto allows for a lot more fatty/greasy foods that would make me feel like crap.
See my post right above:Even the late Dr. Atkins said on Larry King Live many years ago that endurance athletes will not do well on a ketogenic diet. For those people, carbs are a better foundation macro.0 -
Most of the stuff I researched seemed to bill it as an "all-bacon diet" so from that I inferred that it must be a fad. I guess I was misinformed. :-(
Still, I don't think it's for everyone. Like I said, I'm a regular cyclist so ~100g carbs/day won't cut it for me. I need at least 120/day. I also think Keto allows for a lot more fatty/greasy foods that would make me feel like crap.
See my post right above:Even the late Dr. Atkins said on Larry King Live many years ago that endurance athletes will not do well on a ketogenic diet. For those people, carbs are a better foundation macro.
Well, Atkins is a fad diet all its own...but I see Dr. Atkins point, and it's true.0 -
Meh, that may be. Still, 100g of carbs is equal to roughly 3 bananas. Cutting carbs that much will make you feel tired/moody all the time.
Well that's a little funny, because I feel AWESOME!!! With tons of energy and happiness. I love that I don't get that 2 o'clock afternoon slump after lunch anymore! and I'm eating roughly 20-25 net grams of carbs per day. (carbs minus fiber=net carbs)
Annnndd I've eaten an avocado and 2 strips of bacon for breakfast, had salmon and broccoli with cheese and butter for lunch, and am going to have prokchops and cauliflower mash tonight
My macros per day are around: 65% fat, 3% protein, and 5% carbs. Yay for Keto! :drinker: :drinker:0
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