Keto?

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  • goodformgirl
    goodformgirl Posts: 4 Member
    While on keto? You don't gain water weight. You LOSE water weight in the first week or so in keto. You have to drink 2-3 L of water everyday to flush the ketones out of your kidneys. Also, if you don't drink enough liquids, I've read people have gotten gallstones or gout.
  • rhogr000
    rhogr000 Posts: 126

    Meh, that may be. Still, 100g of carbs is equal to roughly 3 bananas. Cutting carbs that much will make you feel tired/moody all the time.

    Well that's a little funny, because I feel AWESOME!!! With tons of energy and happiness. I love that I don't get that 2 o'clock afternoon slump after lunch anymore! :love: and I'm eating roughly 20-25 net grams of carbs per day. (carbs minus fiber=net carbs)
    Annnndd I've eaten an avocado and 2 strips of bacon for breakfast, had salmon and broccoli with cheese and butter for lunch, and am going to have prokchops and cauliflower mash tonight :)
    My macros per day are around: 65% fat, 3% protein, and 5% carbs. Yay for Keto! :drinker: :drinker:

    Do you bike 3-4 miles a day? I guarantee you that you wouldn't feel so "awesome" if you did :-)
  • goodformgirl
    goodformgirl Posts: 4 Member
    It's not a fad. If you read Gary Taubes "Why We Get Fat" and Lyle McDonald's "The Ketogenic Diet" and do more research you will see why. You are getting your water levels, lipid levels back to normal. Why do people think a diet or fad is when you don't eat sugar and processed foods? Why should that type of "food" be part of a "normal" diet if it makes you 1) store fat in your blood 2) increase your cholesterol 3) lead to obesity and diabetes?
  • Thorbjornn
    Thorbjornn Posts: 329 Member
    Well, Atkins is a fad diet all its own...but I see Dr. Atkins point, and it's true.

    But that's a misunderstanding too. The Atkins Diet is really no different than what I described above as a ketogenic diet, when it's followed properly. The problem is people don't follow it properly.
  • JessicaOnKeto
    JessicaOnKeto Posts: 364 Member

    Meh, that may be. Still, 100g of carbs is equal to roughly 3 bananas. Cutting carbs that much will make you feel tired/moody all the time.

    Well that's a little funny, because I feel AWESOME!!! With tons of energy and happiness. I love that I don't get that 2 o'clock afternoon slump after lunch anymore! :love: and I'm eating roughly 20-25 net grams of carbs per day. (carbs minus fiber=net carbs)
    Annnndd I've eaten an avocado and 2 strips of bacon for breakfast, had salmon and broccoli with cheese and butter for lunch, and am going to have prokchops and cauliflower mash tonight :)
    My macros per day are around: 65% fat, 3% protein, and 5% carbs. Yay for Keto! :drinker: :drinker:

    Do you bike 3-4 miles a day? I guarantee you that you wouldn't feel so "awesome" if you did :-)

    I run/jog/walk in intervals about that amount every other day, with no side effects yet, on keto :wink:
    I was just responding to your comment about having no energy or being moody on low carb alone, and I assure you not all of us low carbers are grumpy and moody with no energy! lol :wink:
    Exercising and being low carb is a little tricky for some or so I hear, and I have heard of carb cycling or carb loading if your body feels weak or if it feels like it's missing something, but others fair well in going through the exercise with low carb process too. :wink:
  • JessicaOnKeto
    JessicaOnKeto Posts: 364 Member
    Well, Atkins is a fad diet all its own...but I see Dr. Atkins point, and it's true.

    But that's a misunderstanding too. The Atkins Diet is really no different than what I described above as a ketogenic diet, when it's followed properly. The problem is people don't follow it properly.

    I like the way you think sir! :drinker:
  • Thorbjornn
    Thorbjornn Posts: 329 Member
    Well, Atkins is a fad diet all its own...but I see Dr. Atkins point, and it's true.

    But that's a misunderstanding too. The Atkins Diet is really no different than what I described above as a ketogenic diet, when it's followed properly. The problem is people don't follow it properly.

    I like the way you think sir! :drinker:

    :bigsmile:
  • XXXMinnieXXX
    XXXMinnieXXX Posts: 3,459 Member
    Try 30% carbs, 35% protein, 35% fat This is what I do. Works well and is keeping the carbs sensible, but enough so you don't feel deprived. Home, goals, change goals. My diary is open if you wish to look.

    Zara.
  • redwngs13
    redwngs13 Posts: 194 Member

    Meh, that may be. Still, 100g of carbs is equal to roughly 3 bananas. Cutting carbs that much will make you feel tired/moody all the time.

    Well that's a little funny, because I feel AWESOME!!! With tons of energy and happiness. I love that I don't get that 2 o'clock afternoon slump after lunch anymore! :love: and I'm eating roughly 20-25 net grams of carbs per day. (carbs minus fiber=net carbs)
    Annnndd I've eaten an avocado and 2 strips of bacon for breakfast, had salmon and broccoli with cheese and butter for lunch, and am going to have prokchops and cauliflower mash tonight :)
    My macros per day are around: 65% fat, 3% protein, and 5% carbs. Yay for Keto! :drinker: :drinker:

    Do you bike 3-4 miles a day? I guarantee you that you wouldn't feel so "awesome" if you did :-)

    Throwing in my 2 cents. A keto diet is all about getting your body into a state of ketosis. You probably know this already, but when you're in ketosis you don't rely on carbs for energy, you rely on fat. Since your body has fat readily available to burn off and is now in a state optimized to do just that, you'll find that you won't tire out during steady-state cardio as easily as you might think!
  • hookilau
    hookilau Posts: 3,134 Member
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  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member

    Meh, that may be. Still, 100g of carbs is equal to roughly 3 bananas. Cutting carbs that much will make you feel tired/moody all the time.

    Well that's a little funny, because I feel AWESOME!!! With tons of energy and happiness. I love that I don't get that 2 o'clock afternoon slump after lunch anymore! :love: and I'm eating roughly 20-25 net grams of carbs per day. (carbs minus fiber=net carbs)
    Annnndd I've eaten an avocado and 2 strips of bacon for breakfast, had salmon and broccoli with cheese and butter for lunch, and am going to have prokchops and cauliflower mash tonight :)
    My macros per day are around: 65% fat, 3% protein, and 5% carbs. Yay for Keto! :drinker: :drinker:

    Do you bike 3-4 miles a day? I guarantee you that you wouldn't feel so "awesome" if you did :-)

    Throwing in my 2 cents. A keto diet is all about getting your body into a state of ketosis. You probably know this already, but when you're in ketosis you don't rely on carbs for energy, you rely on fat. Since your body has fat readily available to burn off and is now in a state optimized to do just that, you'll find that you won't tire out during steady-state cardio as easily as you might think!

    And holding cals and protein constant, fat loss isn't significantly different with low carb/keto. So why go the low carb/keto route unless you have a medical reason to do so?
  • rhogr000
    rhogr000 Posts: 126

    Meh, that may be. Still, 100g of carbs is equal to roughly 3 bananas. Cutting carbs that much will make you feel tired/moody all the time.

    Well that's a little funny, because I feel AWESOME!!! With tons of energy and happiness. I love that I don't get that 2 o'clock afternoon slump after lunch anymore! :love: and I'm eating roughly 20-25 net grams of carbs per day. (carbs minus fiber=net carbs)
    Annnndd I've eaten an avocado and 2 strips of bacon for breakfast, had salmon and broccoli with cheese and butter for lunch, and am going to have prokchops and cauliflower mash tonight :)
    My macros per day are around: 65% fat, 3% protein, and 5% carbs. Yay for Keto! :drinker: :drinker:

    Do you bike 3-4 miles a day? I guarantee you that you wouldn't feel so "awesome" if you did :-)

    Throwing in my 2 cents. A keto diet is all about getting your body into a state of ketosis. You probably know this already, but when you're in ketosis you don't rely on carbs for energy, you rely on fat. Since your body has fat readily available to burn off and is now in a state optimized to do just that, you'll find that you won't tire out during steady-state cardio as easily as you might think!

    And holding cals and protein constant, fat loss isn't significantly different with low carb/keto. So why go the low carb/keto route unless you have a medical reason to do so?

    This.

    I may have been misinformed about Keto to begin with, but it's not inherently different when it comes to fat loss.

    I think the whole "low carb lifestyle" has been completely over-hyped.
  • redwngs13
    redwngs13 Posts: 194 Member
    Do you bike 3-4 miles a day? I guarantee you that you wouldn't feel so "awesome" if you did :-)

    Throwing in my 2 cents. A keto diet is all about getting your body into a state of ketosis. You probably know this already, but when you're in ketosis you don't rely on carbs for energy, you rely on fat. Since your body has fat readily available to burn off and is now in a state optimized to do just that, you'll find that you won't tire out during steady-state cardio as easily as you might think!

    And holding cals and protein constant, fat loss isn't significantly different with low carb/keto. So why go the low carb/keto route unless you have a medical reason to do so?

    It's all personal choice, really. Finding what works for you. For me, I like the way I feel on a keto diet. I don't get tired during the day and my digestion is a lot better. I also don't get ravenously hungry like I used to when I did a calorie-restricted low-fat diet. I've also heard when eating at a deficit, a keto diet can preserve more lean muscle mass while burning fat.

    No, I don't have a medical need to be on keto, but I find the benefits of being in ketosis superior to a normal diet. I personally do a CKD with carb-loading every weekend because I mainly do heavy lifting at the gym.
  • redwngs13
    redwngs13 Posts: 194 Member
    And holding cals and protein constant, fat loss isn't significantly different with low carb/keto. So why go the low carb/keto route unless you have a medical reason to do so?

    This.

    I may have been misinformed about Keto to begin with, but it's not inherently different when it comes to fat loss.

    I think the whole "low carb lifestyle" has been completely over-hyped.
    Don't bash it til you've tried it! haha. But really, I see your point. I think what draws a lot of people to low carbing is the big initial drop of weight when you start. Sure, it's all water weight, but seeing that number drop on the scale gets everyone all excited. I admit, that really hooked me at the beginning, too. But once I was in ketosis I found the real benefits, which I already mentioned in my last post.

    Edit: I should also mention that I really didn't have a lot of weight to lose when I started eating keto. My boyfriend started keto before me and kept raving about how awesome he felt and how much energy he constantly had, so that's what got me interested. I wanted to feel better and more energized, and losing weight was a happy side-effect.
  • ruthiejewell
    ruthiejewell Posts: 134 Member
    The main way keto helps so much is because it STOPS cravings and so allows more success. Also by cutting out the most dangerous foods (not fats but sugars and processed junk) you are going to be eating more good healthy foods and less chemical so called healthy/low fat stuff. Keto enables control!! For many of us "a little" of many food groups is very difficult to manage. Non carboholics may never understand!
  • medic2038
    medic2038 Posts: 434 Member

    Meh, that may be. Still, 100g of carbs is equal to roughly 3 bananas. Cutting carbs that much will make you feel tired/moody all the time.

    Well that's a little funny, because I feel AWESOME!!! With tons of energy and happiness. I love that I don't get that 2 o'clock afternoon slump after lunch anymore! :love: and I'm eating roughly 20-25 net grams of carbs per day. (carbs minus fiber=net carbs)
    Annnndd I've eaten an avocado and 2 strips of bacon for breakfast, had salmon and broccoli with cheese and butter for lunch, and am going to have prokchops and cauliflower mash tonight :)
    My macros per day are around: 65% fat, 3% protein, and 5% carbs. Yay for Keto! :drinker: :drinker:

    Do you bike 3-4 miles a day? I guarantee you that you wouldn't feel so "awesome" if you did :-)

    Throwing in my 2 cents. A keto diet is all about getting your body into a state of ketosis. You probably know this already, but when you're in ketosis you don't rely on carbs for energy, you rely on fat. Since your body has fat readily available to burn off and is now in a state optimized to do just that, you'll find that you won't tire out during steady-state cardio as easily as you might think!

    And holding cals and protein constant, fat loss isn't significantly different with low carb/keto. So why go the low carb/keto route unless you have a medical reason to do so?

    It's a simple matter of preference really. Why do you go to the gym if you don't have a medical reason to do so?
    In my own experience I'm much less hungry on keto, which is why I prefer it. It's not magic though.
  • JessicaOnKeto
    JessicaOnKeto Posts: 364 Member

    And holding cals and protein constant, fat loss isn't significantly different with low carb/keto. So why go the low carb/keto route unless you have a medical reason to do so?

    Why I chose low carb/keto:
    •#1 little to no hunger
    •Eat delicious food (BACON!)
    •Eat healthy food (veggies, nuts, avocados, etc)
    •Increased energy
    •Cravings for sweets gone
    •Decreased blood pressure
    •Better mental concentration; no “brain fog”
    •Improved mood; emotions more even
    •”Compulsive” or “emotional” eating gone
    •Improved dental hygiene
    •Improved hair and nail health

    Why others chose low carb keto through what I have heard:
    •Improvement in joint or muscle pain
    •Fewer headaches
    •PMS improved
    •Improvement in skin appearance
    •Improved triglycerides
    •Reduced blood glucose for diabetics and pre-diabetics
    •Increased HDL (“good”) cholesterol
    •Improved insulin sensitivity
    •Lower blood insulin level

    But ultimately, it is my CHOICE to do low carb.
    I have no medical condition or necessity making me do it, I just follow the keto lifestyle because it makes me feel healthy and happy, and assists me in promoting the weight loss I wish to accomplish.
  • ruthiejewell
    ruthiejewell Posts: 134 Member

    And holding cals and protein constant, fat loss isn't significantly different with low carb/keto. So why go the low carb/keto route unless you have a medical reason to do so?

    Why I chose low carb/keto:
    •#1 little to no hunger
    •Eat delicious food (BACON!)
    •Eat healthy food (veggies, nuts, avocados, etc)
    •Increased energy
    •Cravings for sweets gone
    •Decreased blood pressure
    •Better mental concentration; no “brain fog”
    •Improved mood; emotions more even
    •”Compulsive” or “emotional” eating gone
    •Improved dental hygiene
    •Improved hair and nail health

    Why others chose low carb keto through what I have heard:
    •Improvement in joint or muscle pain
    •Fewer headaches
    •PMS improved
    •Improvement in skin appearance
    •Improved triglycerides
    •Reduced blood glucose for diabetics and pre-diabetics
    •Increased HDL (“good”) cholesterol
    •Improved insulin sensitivity
    •Lower blood insulin level

    But ultimately, it is my CHOICE to do low carb.
    I have no medical condition or necessity making me do it, I just follow the keto lifestyle because it makes me feel healthy and happy, and assists me in promoting the weight loss I wish to accomplish.
  • ruthiejewell
    ruthiejewell Posts: 134 Member
    Very well said Jessicaon keto! If I could have said it myself, I would have!!
  • JessicaOnKeto
    JessicaOnKeto Posts: 364 Member
    Very well said Jessicaon keto! If I could have said it myself, I would have!!

    Thanks girly! :flowerforyou: I really do love keto, and I wish it weren't frowned upon as much as it is here and other places, it's just that there's soooo much misinformation and negative connotations, :frown:
    And getting the opportunity to talk about the positive, awesomeness about the keto/low carb diet plan is always a pleasure! :drinker:
  • OkieTink
    OkieTink Posts: 285 Member
    I know Keto may have worked for some, but to me it sounds like just another fad diet. Keto severely slashes carbs...sometimes to fewer than 100g/day; that's not healthy nor sustainable.

    Fads don't last 40 years. Less than 100 g of carbs per day is perfectly sustainable, and is perfectly healthy.

    Meh, that may be. Still, 100g of carbs is equal to roughly 3 bananas. Cutting carbs that much will make you feel tired/moody all the time.

    Odd. I eat 25g of carbs, or less a day. I wake at 4am, spend an hour (6 days a week) at the gym. I work no less than 10 hours a day, asleep by 8:30pm and I'm FINALLY sleeping all night. I have never felt better, I'm anything but tired/moody. Come to think of it..I was tired and moody before I was introduced to keto...

    And my hair/skin looks fabulous! =)
  • JessicaOnKeto
    JessicaOnKeto Posts: 364 Member
    I know Keto may have worked for some, but to me it sounds like just another fad diet. Keto severely slashes carbs...sometimes to fewer than 100g/day; that's not healthy nor sustainable.

    Fads don't last 40 years. Less than 100 g of carbs per day is perfectly sustainable, and is perfectly healthy.

    Meh, that may be. Still, 100g of carbs is equal to roughly 3 bananas. Cutting carbs that much will make you feel tired/moody all the time.

    Odd. I eat 25g of carbs, or less a day. I wake at 4am, spend an hour (6 days a week) at the gym. I work no less than 10 hours a day, asleep by 8:30pm and I'm FINALLY sleeping all night. I have never felt better, I'm anything but tired/moody. Come to think of it..I was tired and moody before I was introduced to keto...

    And my hair/skin looks fabulous! =)

    @OkieTink Keto, FTW :drinker: :drinker:
  • Mandino788
    Mandino788 Posts: 226 Member
    If you like carbs so much, why are you going to try Keto?

    I got to where I am by eating what I like. If I can ...idk...train myself to not like carbs I think I could do it.
  • GabyBaby916
    GabyBaby916 Posts: 385 Member
    Bump to read later.
  • GabyBaby916
    GabyBaby916 Posts: 385 Member
    Odd. I eat 25g of carbs, or less a day. I wake at 4am, spend an hour (6 days a week) at the gym. I work no less than 10 hours a day, asleep by 8:30pm and I'm FINALLY sleeping all night. I have never felt better, I'm anything but tired/moody. Come to think of it..I was tired and moody before I was introduced to keto...

    And my hair/skin looks fabulous! =)
    I'll definitely agree with this!
    I've been keto only for a few weeks (actually LCHF, bumping down to keto), but I have TONS of energy. I am awake before my alarm goes off and I no longer need sleeping pills or melatonin to get a full night's sleep.
    I feel a lot sharper mentally and (for the first time in a VERY long time) am not feeling bloated all the time.

    It'll be interesting to see how my bloodwork looks in a few weeks when I go in for my physical. I certainly FEEL great!
  • OkieTink
    OkieTink Posts: 285 Member
    @OkieTink Keto, FTW :drinker: :drinker:

    Darn tootin'! :smile:

    The best thing about it (besides the bacon and chocolate fat bombs) is the fact I'm no longer sluggish.
  • Mandino788
    Mandino788 Posts: 226 Member
    I LOVE :heart: THE KETO LIFE! :drinker:
    Two weeks is a great start, and that's how long I gave myself when I started too!
    Absolute yes on the blue cheese salad dressing! and ranch! just watch the nutrition label for any hidden sugars or carbs or the "lowfat" stuff, lowfat usually means they add sugar.

    I get my favorite recipes from:
    -www.genaw.com this lady is a genius, and posts comments and ratings on most of her recipes, and indicates with a "*" which ones are the lowest carb and are suitable for "induction" which is <20 net grams (carbs minus fiber) per day on your low carb diet.
    -http://www.lowcarb-recipes.net/
    and I just want to share my FAVORITE low carb dessert with everyone!, a molten lava cake:
    http://healthyindulgences.net/2009/01/healthy-molten-chocolate-lava-cake/ I just subsituted the regular flour with coconut flour.

    In regards to what to eat:
    www.theketogenicdiet.com is awesome this list is directly from them!
    •Any meat (such as beef, venison, pork, veal, lamb) in any just about any cut or preparation, though check the carb content of processed meat products like sausages and ensure you don’t buy anything cured with sugar or honey.
    •Any poultry (chicken, turkey, quail, duck etc.). It is preferable to leave the skin on poultry to increase the fat content. Poultry must not be breaded or battered, but can otherwise be prepared any way you like, roasted, stir fried, deep fried, baked, grilled or barbecued.
    •Fish and shellfish. They should be fresh – things like imitation crab meat often contain added carbs – and if you buy canned fish make sure it hasn’t been preserved with added sugar. Again, it must not be breaded or battered.
    •Eggs. You will probably find that eggs become a staple when you are on a ketogenic diet.
    •Cheese. Most types of cheese are suitable for a ketogenic diet, though they do contain some carbs, so make sure you include these in your daily carb count to ensure you stay below your limit.
    •Vegetables. Vegetables will be the source of most of the carbs you eat, but you still need to choose the lowest carb vegetables with the best nutritional value. Green leafy vegetables are the best, such as spinach, all kinds of lettuce and cabbage, watercress, Brussels sprouts and kale. You can also eat broccoli and cauliflower, celery, cucumber, asparagus, bean sprouts, radishes and more, but must strictly limit you intake of sugary vegetables like peppers, onions and tomatoes, and avoid starchy vegetables like potatoes.
    •Nuts can be eaten in moderation as a snack.
    •Most kinds of oil, butter and cream can be used in cooking.
    •Fresh herbs and dry spices can be used for flavor.
    •Mayonnaise and oil based salad dressings are usually OK, but check the carb content on the bottle.
    •Artificial Sweeteners such as Splenda can be used in place of sugar.

    My instagram is: http://instagram.com/jessicaonketo if you'd like to see first hand what I eat.

    I would advise to try to research it first if your still thinking about it, low carb high fat is NOT for everyone, but it does work out for some of us here :love:
    With a conventional high carb, low fat diet, I found myself weak, HUNGRY, and angry about 85% of the time, and not satisfied with my "healthy choices" that weren't making me feel healthy. I tried it out for a good month or so, but I was just, simply put, not in a good place mentally or physically.
    Keto helped me deal with my HUNGER. Which is the #1 reason that I fail at most diets, I get so hungry, I ended up binge eating everything I was moderating. With High Fat, and Low Carb, I have more energy, I am more focused, and can eat healthy, satisfying foods that keep me full longer then carbs.
    Yes the cravings suck, I used to eat fast food every single day, pizza, fries, pasta etc, but as a recovering carb-aholic, I can say, it can be done, and you can overcome those cravings! And now, I find tons of subsitutes for pizza/pasta/burgers etc.
    Now, I mainly eat a tons of vegetables, healthy fats (nuts, avocados, coconut oil, butter), and meat. What's not to love?

    P.S. if anyone would like to add me, feel free to do so! I'm open to all questions/concerns about low carb too!

    Good luck!! :drinker: :flowerforyou:

    This sounds a lot like me: I used to eat fast food every single day, pizza, fries, pasta etc, but as a recovering carb-aholic,

    Knowing that you can go from just like me to keto is really inspiring :)
  • OkieTink
    OkieTink Posts: 285 Member
    If you like carbs so much, why are you going to try Keto?

    I got to where I am by eating what I like. If I can ...idk...train myself to not like carbs I think I could do it.

    For what it's worth...one week in and all carb cravings went away. I really think I could be 0% carbs but I force myself to eat some. Actually, I usually have to force myself to eat anything...my appetite is really low.
  • Mandino788
    Mandino788 Posts: 226 Member
    While on keto? You don't gain water weight. You LOSE water weight in the first week or so in keto. You have to drink 2-3 L of water everyday to flush the ketones out of your kidneys. Also, if you don't drink enough liquids, I've read people have gotten gallstones or gout.

    I don't have a gall bladder...do you know how that changes things? And I drink a lot of water so I'm not terribly concerned about gout. I'd probably step it up a bit to make sure though