the real reason low calorie diets dont work for everyone
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Excellent information here...bumping to continue to read later...0
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OP - I also noticed that when I eat carbs (for me, anything processed, really) I dont lose weight. If I eat high protein, and only natural carbs and lots of veggies and some fruits, I can lose weight, and I feel better.
I tried "eating wiht in my calories" for 6 months - I ate whatever I wanted in that timeframe. I lost 20 pounds.
I changed my way of thinking, and ate high protein, low carb, and added in veggies as snacks - I lost the rest of the weight you see on my ticker. I went back to eating some carbs and processed foods - maintanance. Now, I want to lose that last pesky 50 pounds, so , its back to high protein, low carb, as well as kicking up my exercise routine as far as I can handle it. Not losing pounds right now, but lost a TON of inches!! If I were still consuming the carbs like I was before, I know my body wouldnt look and feel as good as it does now.
There will always be people who think their way is the "right" way... one thing I have learned the last 1.5 years, is that something different works for each individual person - we all have our own genetics, and our own issues... by learning what works for you, will make you successful. Trying on everyone else's diets can help, but in the end, take what you need and leave the rest.0 -
Don't mean to be negative, I'm genuinely making a point here and wanting feedbavk on anyone who has experience with this...
Okay so I read this thread as I have PCOS AND hypothyroidism as well as IBS when eating the wrong foods. I've read tons and tons on the right foods etc - and came to the conclusion that LOW GI is the way forward.
Most of the foods on my 'Low GI' diet plans I've been researching are 'black' and 'red'.
Confused is an understatement.
You would fare much better by speaking to an endocronologist and dietician than getting ill-informed opinions on mfp.
100% agree. Seeing as Insulin Resistance and PCOS/Hypothyroidism is linked I just wonder sometimes.
hypothyroidism will be linked with many things.Diabetes, heart disease, etc
It is the same concept of eating more than your body needs, getting fat, and then getting insulin resistance from higher circulating blood sugar and adipose tissue.0 -
Cake at a Super Bowl party? Odd. Do you also serve biscotti and crumpets at your Super Bowl party?...you expect them to give up cake and pizza? :noway: These are not only comfort foods, but they're social foods; I've never heard of anyone throwing a Superbowl party with a salad bar.
Buffalo Wings, nuts, veggies & dip. I suppose you would call these low carb options anti-social foods.
If I'm going to burn through a bunch of carbs I'm saving them for the beer.0 -
Cake at a Super Bowl party? Odd. Do you also serve biscotti and crumpets at your Super Bowl party?
Buffalo Wings, nuts, veggies & dip. I suppose you would call these low carb options anti-social foods.
If I'm going to burn through a bunch of carbs I'm saving them for the beer.
Don't forget the meat and cheese tray!
And I'm with you on the beer!0 -
ever wonder why low-carb diets are so freaking effective? and NO its not bc u eat 'fewer calories.' don't give me platitudes of: 'energy in, energy out'. none of this calorie garbage.
YES counting calories work for people who are healthy and just have a lil weight to lose, or who have not been overweight their whole lives. even some obese people, who, lucky for them do not have insulin resistance.
what is insulin resistance? It is when a body grows immune to insulin. it is a vicous cycle. the more a person spikes their sugar levels, the more extra insulin the body makes. and when theres too much insulin in the blood, the body becomes even more immune to insulin. so the next time the person spikes their sugar, the body will have to make EVEN MORE insulin.
usually this leads to diabetes if not taken care of
and yes, it happens when a person doesn't eat healthy and eats too much cake and chocolate (like me) lol.
so no, trolls out there, i am not saying it is 'not their fault they are fat'. i'm just saying that its now harder for them to lose weight.
some people are insulin resistant just because, but a lot of times its a genetic predisposition. ].
people who have insulin resistance have to be careful not to spike sugar levels. meaning, not eat foods that will be absorbed too quickly.
this means dropping processed sugars, flour, and carbs that the body processes too quickly.
seeds, nuts and vegies are amazing but not the starchy vegies like potatos cuz those have too much sugars that the body gets to too quickly.
fruit is ok because it has a lot of fibers the body breaks down to get at the sugars, ensuring sugar gets release slowly. fruit juice r though is already broken down, and goes straight to the blood stream and spikes it.
the reason low-carb high protein diet works on obese people so magically, is because they are not eating foods that are spiking their blood sugar and causing them to resist their insulin.
not only does this help lose weight right away, but as insulin resistance is reversible with proper diet, slowly but surely they 'fix themselves'....as long as they stay on the program.
by slowly reintroducing carbs that come from healthy, wholesome sources, weight loss can then be maintained.
i'm so sick of hearing this garbage about how CALORIES IN CALORIES OUT is the only logical explanation, and that a twinky diet is the same as eating brocolli.
NO. IT. ISN'T.
because if you stick to that twinkie diet long enough, even on 1200 cal a day, eventually lots of people will become insulin resistant and start gaining weight.
EATING HEALTHY DOES COUNT.
i am writing this to try and reach out and help pple who are having trouble losing weight counting calories. i have been in the same boat for 6 mos living on low cal not dropping weight. first i was told i was hypothyroid and put on synthroid. now i found out that it was insulin resistance effecting my bodies ability to produce hormones not only that, but i'm at risk for diabetes now.
i was so so stupid. thinking i could eat pizza and chocolate as long as i 'counted my calories' and it would be fine.
putting garbage calories in out body is not the same as putting nutritious, unprocessed ones.
we play around with natures bounty and expect our bodies to process it the same way as it process natural things?
would you put leftover chicken soup in your car and expect it to run? you need to put the right fuel in or the car breaks down, no?
THANK, YOU for making this so clear...too many people on MFP dont understand this concept. a calorie is a calorie is NOT a calorie...like it says, this calories in vs out works for healthy induviduals for a certain period of time. i have tried a long term deficit and its f***ed up my metabolism to the point where anything above my usuals would result in fat gain...so i started to simply slowly add in more healthy calories and come up with substitutes for cheat foods and viola, back to feeling good, looking good and lifting great!0 -
Don't mean to be negative, I'm genuinely making a point here and wanting feedbavk on anyone who has experience with this...
Okay so I read this thread as I have PCOS AND hypothyroidism as well as IBS when eating the wrong foods. I've read tons and tons on the right foods etc - and came to the conclusion that LOW GI is the way forward.
Most of the foods on my 'Low GI' diet plans I've been researching are 'black' and 'red'.
Confused is an understatement.
You would fare much better by speaking to an endocronologist and dietician than getting ill-informed opinions on mfp.
100% agree. Seeing as Insulin Resistance and PCOS/Hypothyroidism is linked I just wonder sometimes.
hypothyroidism will be linked with many things.Diabetes, heart disease, etc
It is the same concept of eating more than your body needs, getting fat, and then getting insulin resistance from higher circulating blood sugar and adipose tissue.
Clarification:
The cells of the body become resistant to insulin through changes in their surface receptors.
Simple answer:
One of the major risk factors for insulin resistance is being overweight which is also one of the symptoms of hypothyroidism.
Insulin resistance contributes to the development of PCOS.
Hypothyroidism-> overweight-> insulin resistance-> PCOS0 -
OP - I also noticed that when I eat carbs (for me, anything processed, really) I dont lose weight. If I eat high protein, and only natural carbs and lots of veggies and some fruits, I can lose weight, and I feel better.
I tried "eating wiht in my calories" for 6 months - I ate whatever I wanted in that timeframe. I lost 20 pounds.
I changed my way of thinking, and ate high protein, low carb, and added in veggies as snacks - I lost the rest of the weight you see on my ticker. I went back to eating some carbs and processed foods - maintanance. Now, I want to lose that last pesky 50 pounds, so , its back to high protein, low carb, as well as kicking up my exercise routine as far as I can handle it. Not losing pounds right now, but lost a TON of inches!! If I were still consuming the carbs like I was before, I know my body wouldnt look and feel as good as it does now.
There will always be people who think their way is the "right" way... one thing I have learned the last 1.5 years, is that something different works for each individual person - we all have our own genetics, and our own issues... by learning what works for you, will make you successful. Trying on everyone else's diets can help, but in the end, take what you need and leave the rest.
Apparently my body works the same way yours does, because I've had the same results.
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OP..... That's a cool story bro.
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I only feel comfortable eating a certain amount of calories only because I don't like to feel full. My calories are at 700, i never feel like im starving. Thats just all my body can take really. I don't like eating too much, 2 meals a day and a snack is fine with me.0
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Funny really because I was diagnosed with PCOS when thyroid levels were 'normal'.
Bottom line is, im working my butt off to lose weight & nowt is happening!!!Don't mean to be negative, I'm genuinely making a point here and wanting feedbavk on anyone who has experience with this...
Okay so I read this thread as I have PCOS AND hypothyroidism as well as IBS when eating the wrong foods. I've read tons and tons on the right foods etc - and came to the conclusion that LOW GI is the way forward.
Most of the foods on my 'Low GI' diet plans I've been researching are 'black' and 'red'.
Confused is an understatement.
You would fare much better by speaking to an endocronologist and dietician than getting ill-informed opinions on mfp.
100% agree. Seeing as Insulin Resistance and PCOS/Hypothyroidism is linked I just wonder sometimes.
hypothyroidism will be linked with many things.Diabetes, heart disease, etc
It is the same concept of eating more than your body needs, getting fat, and then getting insulin resistance from higher circulating blood sugar and adipose tissue.
Clarification:
The cells of the body become resistant to insulin through changes in their surface receptors.
Simple answer:
One of the major risk factors for insulin resistance is being overweight which is also one of the symptoms of hypothyroidism.
Insulin resistance contributes to the development of PCOS.
Hypothyroidism-> overweight-> insulin resistance-> PCOS0 -
When I get old and I have grand kids, I am going to pull up a picture OP and tell my grand kids... Now this Bro told Cool StoriesOP..... That's a cool story bro.
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Eating healthy does count but... CALORIES IN VERSUS CALORIES OUT!!!!!!!!!!0
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One year ago I was on Metformin for pre-diabetes as well as blood pressure medication. I changed my life and started eating VERY LOW carb. within 3 months I was off the Metformin, in 6 months I was off the blood pressure meds. The nice thing: I eat an almost "normal" diet now. I don't go all out and eat a burger and fries and dessert every night but I have learned how to control myself and the food I eat. MY blood work is still all fine and I am still losing weight; very slowly now, but I have bgeen at this for a year now and am pretty much where I intended to be.
The point is I made the changes, fought the emotions, battled my demons and I won. ME! I did not let FOOD win. I have learned how to enjoy food as a meal and NOT let it destroy me. I might WANT that piece of garlic bread but do I need it? Have I given myself any other "treats" today where I can justify eating it and not feeling guilty about it? If you feel guilty after you have eaten something I would say one of two things are at play: Either you are just starting or not even mid-point in your journey and are having issues with self control OR you may have lost your weight, reached your goal and now have such a fear of re-gaining that you forbif yourse;f to live and enjoy life eating as the averge person should.
Sweets and carbs and specific foods are not against you and will not sabotage you. You must learn to do what works for you WHILE ALLOWING YOU TO BE HAPPY and not feel like you are on a permanent, life-long "Diet".
I never would have started if I truly believed my insulin resistance meant I would never again enjoy chocolate. I would have rather died then. BUT I was willing to give it up for a time... How long? Until I know I am healthy again and have learned to control ME because I am the one who shoved it in my face in the first place. Baby steps. Yes, this approach has worked rather well in my case.
371 days later I have nomal glucose, cholesterol, and A1c levels. I am also free of heart palpitations and an inability to breath after taking 6 swift steps. Things have definately changed BUT I still eat sweets and breads. JUST IN SERIOUS MODERATION.0 -
I think some of you are really over-thinking this...0
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I think some of you are really over-thinking this...
This.0 -
What an eye-opener! Thanks, OP.
Best. Thread. Ever.0 -
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not sure if seriousGlad to see that silly old First Law of Thermodynamics being defeated at last. Perpetual motion machines are just around the corner. Bro-science rules!
It's intended to be ironic. This whole thread is full of nonsense and confusion between the calorie as a measure of energy and eating healthily. Low calorie diets, if followed correctly, DO work, if you expend more energy than you eat, the energy has to come from somewhere, and that somewhere is fat, or in the event of no fat being left, muscle, bones, etc, so you lose weight. Insulin resistance is something else entirely. Oh, and a calorie is a calorie is a calorie, ie a measure of heat (energy), there are no such things as good or bad calories, just as there are no good or bad inches, an inch is just a measure also.
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Peer-reviewed articles, please. Otherwise all I hear is "blah, blah, blah. I think I know more than the scientists who actually studied this because I read some mumbo-jumbo somewhere. Blah, blah, blah."0
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OP - I also noticed that when I eat carbs (for me, anything processed, really) I dont lose weight. If I eat high protein, and only natural carbs and lots of veggies and some fruits, I can lose weight, and I feel better.
I tried "eating wiht in my calories" for 6 months - I ate whatever I wanted in that timeframe. I lost 20 pounds.
I changed my way of thinking, and ate high protein, low carb, and added in veggies as snacks - I lost the rest of the weight you see on my ticker. I went back to eating some carbs and processed foods - maintanance. Now, I want to lose that last pesky 50 pounds, so , its back to high protein, low carb, as well as kicking up my exercise routine as far as I can handle it. Not losing pounds right now, but lost a TON of inches!! If I were still consuming the carbs like I was before, I know my body wouldnt look and feel as good as it does now.
There will always be people who think their way is the "right" way... one thing I have learned the last 1.5 years, is that something different works for each individual person - we all have our own genetics, and our own issues... by learning what works for you, will make you successful. Trying on everyone else's diets can help, but in the end, take what you need and leave the rest.
Apparently my body works the same way yours does, because I've had the same results.
thats funny.
cause every morning I jumped 2 times and spun around.
and I lost weight
Therefore jumping 2x and spinning around is a proven way to lose weight
forget the fact i was moving more than I was taking in.0 -
I'm type 2... I started eating clean mid Feb. No processed carbs or high carbs vegs..my blood sugars stable at 85-210 cut half my meds hoping in July when see doc I get off them. Lost 50# since mid Feb no exercise as my back has issues currently!!! Thanks for posting!0
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no exercise as my back has issues currently!!! Thanks for posting!
strong irony0 -
Fantastic loss
As for exercise, Walking? Pilates (you'd have to amend to be suitable for your back)? Trampoline?
Strength exercises? So squats? Bicep curls? Leg raises?
I'm no expert but there's plenty to do so you don't aggravate your back.0 -
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this is not new information OP. I balanced diet = health.
I have PCOS. I'm healthy, lost weight and not insulin resistant. and surprise! I eat lots of carbs.
Whoever is making generalizations - just stahp.0 -
But aren't you still eating a low calorie diet? Just because some people have to choose different foods because they are insulin resistance, does that mean they are not eating at a calorie deficit, or am I missing something?0
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It's not calorie intake you have to worry about, it's the fat intake.
If that were true I should be overweight by now. My recomended fat intake is 30g (0.3 per lb?). I have 50-100grams a day. For me it's carbs I have to watch, for you it's fat. Everyone's different.0
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