STOP Under-Eating Folks!!
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So many angry people who are bad at reading. If you are eating 1200 and aren't hungry or miserable then thre op wasn't talking about you, its that simple. Everything isn't about you and your miniscule amount of calories, gosh.
Though for abunch of folks claiming to be happy some of you seem defensive and, dare i say, hangry.
My thoughts exactly! The OP wasn't attacking or preaching at all. Apparently offering advice and wisdom=preaching and "being judgmental * " now?
* I hate that phrase.
Sad thing is, it isn't a new thing that offering advice is taken to be preaching and being judgmental. The boards have always been that way.
It's actually be fun reading all the responses from the hangry people of MFP. And I do agree that a little reading comprehension couldn't hurt...if you are not miserable and hungry, then OP wasn't talking to or about you.0 -
Sad thing is, it isn't a new thing that offering advice is taken to be preaching and being judgmental. The boards have always been that way.
It's actually be fun reading all the responses from the hangry people of MFP. And I do agree that a little reading comprehension couldn't hurt...if you are not miserable and hungry, then OP wasn't talking to or about you.
The problem is that the "advice" wasn't solicited, didn't come from an expert, and was completely BAD and WRONG for many. I'm happy to read posts by people who are experts, but someone like the OP is in no position to be offering advice to anyone unless they specifically request it. It wasn't advice, it was a rant.0 -
Sad thing is, it isn't a new thing that offering advice is taken to be preaching and being judgmental. The boards have always been that way.
It's actually be fun reading all the responses from the hangry people of MFP. And I do agree that a little reading comprehension couldn't hurt...if you are not miserable and hungry, then OP wasn't talking to or about you.
The problem is that the "advice" wasn't solicited, didn't come from an expert, and was completely BAD and WRONG for many. I'm happy to read posts by people who are experts, but someone like the OP is in no position to be offering advice to anyone unless they specifically request it. It wasn't advice, it was a rant.
^^Exactly. And after hearing that she regularly eats well under 1000 cals per day, can we add hypocritical to the description of her 'rant'?0 -
Jesus. What is wrong with you people? The OP has publicly apologized twice in this thread.
Maybe it's time to move on?0 -
this!
One thing I've learned also is that the starvation mode thing is a myth, but depends on who you ask or what you read.
also starving mode is not 1200 calories!! my sister is a nurse and knows her stuff she said starving mode is when you eat 500 calories for a long period of time or if you eat a lot of crap food and your not giving your body enough nutrients. incidently I have come along way from the not undereating.0 -
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excuse me? i eat 1200 calories and lose weight just fine everyone is different not everyone needs to eat 2000 calories to lose weight!
This! The smaller a person is, the less calories they need. We all have different bodies and different needs. I'm losing two pounds a week and seldom go over 1000 calories a day. It works for me. I eat clean, I work out. I don't need as many calories to function as someone twice my weight.
I don't eat 2000 when I'm not trying to lose. I'd be obese in three months!
I don't go hungry, just the opposite. I couldn't finish my dinner last night. Personally I think a lot of people need to learn to stop eating when they are full instead of always cleaning their plate.
I agree! Everyone on here (for the most part) is doing what is best for their body. For me, if I eat less than 1200 calories with my workout activity level, I feel starving. So it really does depend on your body and activity level. Starvation mode is overused on here because I have eaten less then 1200 (on the days where I haven't worked out) and I feel just fine because I had maybe two full meals in one day. It's not good to be obsessed with counting calories, it's more about listening to your body!0 -
Everyone is different, so it's best to focus on what works for you and how you're eating in order to get to your goal.
So true.Don't know about other people,but I have all I can handle with tracking,walking ,checking food for calorie & cholesterol levels.Very few of us would make a rude comment concerning another persons weight in real life,why do it here? JMO0 -
FYI STARVATION MODE IS REAL
Physiological Symptoms
Reducing calories to a very low level prevents the body from obtaining proper nutrients and energy, according to the "Annual Review of Physiology" article. As a result, fatigue is common because the body does not have ample energy to function. The body breaks down muscles to be used as fuel as it attempts to keep vital organs like the heart and lungs functioning. Vitamin deficiency is another result of a lack of nutrients, and can lead to anemia, diarrhea, rashes, edema and heart failure. Testosterone levels decrease during starvation mode, so sexual drive also decreases. The primary drive in a food-deprived body is to eat to regain energy and nutrition, not to reproduce. In women, irregular menstruation or a complete absence of a menstrual cycle may occur.
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Depression and Anxiety
In a landmark study by Dr. Ancel Keys, published in the book "The Biology of Human Starvation", subjects who were place on a starvation diet experienced psychological changes. Depression was one such symptom. Dr. Keys found that those who ate the least calories were the most depressed. Anxiety is another psychological symptom of not consuming enough calories. Dr. Keys noted nervousness and impatience among the participants in the study. Some people even avoided eating because they were fearful of gaining weight.
Food Obsession
Food obsession is another symptom of starvation mode, as found in Dr. Keys' study. The deprived body focuses on food because it needs the energy and nutrients to survive. A person in starvation mode may spend much time talking about food, thinking about food and searching for food. In developed countries, people in starvation mode -- such as dieters or people with anorexia nevosa -- may also spend much time watching cooking shows, looking at recipes or shopping for food.
Weight Regain
According to study in the March 2001 issue of the "British Journal of Nutrition," a reduction in the intake of food leads to a reduced metabolic rate, or a decreased rate in burning calories. This decrease in metabolic rate increases as the person loses weight. Once a person begins to eat more, he often experiences increased appetite while his metabolic rate stays at a low level, according to a study conducted by Dr. Abdul Dulloo that was reported in the March 1997 issue of "American Journal of Clinical Nutrition." As a result, the person often regains all the lost weight and may even gain more weight than when the starvation started. The weight that is put on is mostly fat tissue, noted Dulloo.0 -
great attitude!!0
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excuse me? i eat 1200 calories and lose weight just fine everyone is different not everyone needs to eat 2000 calories to lose weight!
Exactly. 2000 calories makes me gain a lot of weight0 -
I think we need to do like the French. They don't count calories, fat, carbs, etc. They EAT real food. No fat free, low fat, low carbs...And guess what.....until fast food hit them, they had lowest heart problems and was third lowest in obesity. hmmmm.0
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I'd be big as a whale if I ate 2,000 calories every day. Oy.excuse me? i eat 1200 calories and lose weight just fine everyone is different not everyone needs to eat 2000 calories to lose weight!
I eat when I'm hungry, I stop when I'm not. I don't need a lot of food to be satisfied. *shrug*
And I never eat folks. I'm a vegetarian.0 -
FYI STARVATION MODE IS REAL
Physiological Symptoms
Reducing calories to a very low level prevents the body from obtaining proper nutrients and energy, according to the "Annual Review of Physiology" article. As a result, fatigue is common because the body does not have ample energy to function. The body breaks down muscles to be used as fuel as it attempts to keep vital organs like the heart and lungs functioning. Vitamin deficiency is another result of a lack of nutrients, and can lead to anemia, diarrhea, rashes, edema and heart failure. Testosterone levels decrease during starvation mode, so sexual drive also decreases. The primary drive in a food-deprived body is to eat to regain energy and nutrition, not to reproduce. In women, irregular menstruation or a complete absence of a menstrual cycle may occur.
That's starving, not starvation mode.0 -
I haven't been around here at MFP for long - but one thing I've learned from all the reading I've done here, is that you won't lose more weight if you undereat!!
Why go hungry?
Why put yourself in starvation mode?
Why set 1200 calories as your goal - and even then under-eat?
Why don't you eat your exercise calories?
Why don't you plan ahead?
I see so many posts:
I'm starving!!
I'm eating 1200 calories and not losing - what should I do?
I haven't lost in six weeks - help!!
I'm eating 1200 and exercising 6 days a week for 3 hours a day and not losing??!!
I want chocolate!!
Help me - I'm going to binge!!
I hate veggies!!
Read, Ask Questions, Listen and Learn!!
It's not rocket science.
It's not a race.
It's not a diet.
I'm taking it slowly. I have an appointment with my nutritionist next week, and expect to post another loss.
Don't know if it will be two pounds, five pounds or ten - I only weigh once a month - so I'm confident it will be a loss because I've been eating pretty much on target - over a little bit a day here or there - but not over by much and only two or three days this month.
I'm not hungry; I'm not starving myself; I eat foods I like and enjoy.
I don't get support from SO - but I come here and get it.
I plan ahead.
I work my plan. :blushing:
Life happens - if I have a bad day, I don't agonize over it.
I know it's not going to happen overnight.
I'm happy!
Go with the flow! :flowerforyou:
Don't worry - be happy! :bigsmile:
marygee1951....... You make it sound all so easy ... If what people post is bothering you don't read it ..its that simple !0 -
Enjoying my coffee and expecting it to be a good day for ME! Good luck to you and keep it up! It sounds like you are comfortable and happy with your journey. I respond to frustrations on a case-by-case basis and I have found that people will still do only what they think is right for THEM. Stay calm and Carry on! Align only with those that share your sentiments and show love only to the people that you think you can impact individually. If you see a comment chain is on the right path that is the only time I comment because it will take MANY people saying the same thing over, and over, and over to make a difference to those that have battled weight demons for a lifetime (myself included). Have a beautiful day. :flowerforyou:0
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I know a lot of people are already saying this but seriously.
1200 calories is fine for a lot of people.
I am 4'11" and weigh 104.4lbs (as of this morning). I eat between 1000-1200 calories a day. I am VERY sedentary, I only workout in the evening. When I eat over 1200, my weight goes up, every time, no fail.
The people who are "starving" on 1200 calories are not eating the correct foods. I can eat a lunch of just 200 calories and be STUFFED! Different foods are going to fill you up differently.
It's more about what you are eating rather than how much.0 -
You see a lot of posts on it because everyone who is new here sets themselves a 2lb per week loss on the site, sets themselves at sedentary and then gets given a 1200 calorie goal. Then they post on here when it doesn't work or they are starving because they can't follow 1200 cals as it's too little or they are denying their body by only eating 1200 cals and therefore not losing anyway.
Almost every time I log on here I see posts on it, people just don't know any better and the whole point of these forums it to educate people. Whilst your post is helpful, you are coming across a little like everyone should know this and not very understanding about it.
Finally, there is a select % who DO need to 1200 cals per day to lose, it's just a minority.0 -
Per the topic, I would like to assure the OP That I eat folks all the time.
... Then again, I am a T Rex.
Priceless!0 -
I know a lot of people are already saying this but seriously.
1200 calories is fine for a lot of people.
I am 4'11" and weigh 104.4lbs (as of this morning). I eat between 1000-1200 calories a day. I am VERY sedentary, I only workout in the evening. When I eat over 1200, my weight goes up, every time, no fail.
The people who are "starving" on 1200 calories are not eating the correct foods. I can eat a lunch of just 200 calories and be STUFFED! Different foods are going to fill you up differently.
It's more about what you are eating rather than how much.
True ~ here's an example of a typical lunch I eat (292 calories) ~ very filling and tasty too
Lunch
Cabbage - Cole Slaw Mix, Plain, 2 cups 27 calories
Egg - One Egg Over Easy With Pam, 1 egg large 70 calories
Perdue - Ground Chicken Burger Pattie, 4 ounces (112g) 160 calories
Victoria - Marsala Sauce, 1/4 cup 35 calories0 -
I know a lot of people are already saying this but seriously.
1200 calories is fine for a lot of people.
I am 4'11" and weigh 104.4lbs (as of this morning). I eat between 1000-1200 calories a day. I am VERY sedentary, I only workout in the evening. When I eat over 1200, my weight goes up, every time, no fail.
The people who are "starving" on 1200 calories are not eating the correct foods. I can eat a lunch of just 200 calories and be STUFFED! Different foods are going to fill you up differently.
It's more about what you are eating rather than how much.
True ~ here's an example of a typical lunch I eat (292 calories) ~ very filling and tasty too
Lunch
Cabbage - Cole Slaw Mix, Plain, 2 cups 27 calories
Egg - One Egg Over Easy With Pam, 1 egg large 70 calories
Perdue - Ground Chicken Burger Pattie, 4 ounces (112g) 160 calories
Victoria - Marsala Sauce, 1/4 cup 35 calories
It's not about what foods you eat ladies, it's about the amount of calories you burn from your lifestyle and activity compared to how many you are putting into your body. The type of calorie makes no difference when it comes to having enough calories to burn for your daily activity.0 -
the minute I saw starvation mode I stopped reading...
this is either troll thread, idiotic, or both...
i also don't do well with people trying to tell me what to do ..
also if my TDEE is 1700 and a 500 deficit is 1200 then 1200 is right for that particular person....0 -
I know a lot of people are already saying this but seriously.
1200 calories is fine for a lot of people.
I am 4'11" and weigh 104.4lbs (as of this morning). I eat between 1000-1200 calories a day. I am VERY sedentary, I only workout in the evening. When I eat over 1200, my weight goes up, every time, no fail.
The people who are "starving" on 1200 calories are not eating the correct foods. I can eat a lunch of just 200 calories and be STUFFED! Different foods are going to fill you up differently.
It's more about what you are eating rather than how much.
True ~ here's an example of a typical lunch I eat (292 calories) ~ very filling and tasty too
Lunch
Cabbage - Cole Slaw Mix, Plain, 2 cups 27 calories
Egg - One Egg Over Easy With Pam, 1 egg large 70 calories
Perdue - Ground Chicken Burger Pattie, 4 ounces (112g) 160 calories
Victoria - Marsala Sauce, 1/4 cup 35 calories0 -
Your post makes a lot of sense
prepare to have hangry people yell at you over it.
^^^ this!
I don't understand why people are so quick to defend 1200 calorie diets against the advice "you know, the vast majority of people can eat more than that and still lose weight, and lose it more easily without the risk of bingeing, and actually maintain their goal weight more easily when they get there". but they are. maybe they enjoy self-deprivation.
a small minority of people, e.g. short, small framed, sedentary older women, will find that 1200 cals/day is the right amount to lose on, because their TDEE may be very low. But it worries me when 20 somethings who are doing loads of exercise are eating only 1200 cals/day
im short and small framed but i workout a lot im in my 20s and i eat 12-14 a day and im not hungry so i dunno why you feel like everyone needs to eat more then that and i dont binge if i want something i eat it i just eat a smaller portion of it!
I eat 2500 a day and I still think the original post is BS ....0 -
I know a lot of people are already saying this but seriously.
1200 calories is fine for a lot of people.
I am 4'11" and weigh 104.4lbs (as of this morning). I eat between 1000-1200 calories a day. I am VERY sedentary, I only workout in the evening. When I eat over 1200, my weight goes up, every time, no fail.
The people who are "starving" on 1200 calories are not eating the correct foods. I can eat a lunch of just 200 calories and be STUFFED! Different foods are going to fill you up differently.
It's more about what you are eating rather than how much.
True ~ here's an example of a typical lunch I eat (292 calories) ~ very filling and tasty too
Lunch
Cabbage - Cole Slaw Mix, Plain, 2 cups 27 calories
Egg - One Egg Over Easy With Pam, 1 egg large 70 calories
Perdue - Ground Chicken Burger Pattie, 4 ounces (112g) 160 calories
Victoria - Marsala Sauce, 1/4 cup 35 calories
It's not about what foods you eat ladies, it's about the amount of calories you burn from your lifestyle and activity compared to how many you are putting into your body. The type of calorie makes no difference when it comes to having enough calories to burn for your daily activity.
Yes, and I totally agree your point is great info for this forum.
Though I did notice the poster I responded to explained she is quite petite and is "VERY sedentary". Similar for me ~ I am short and fairly sedentary. So less calories can work fine for those like us. And I think it's important to share this info too.
But YES I totally agree 1200 calories/day probably would not be optimum for those with a more active lifestyle, etc.0 -
^^this! To the OP, go you.. I didn't read any kind of tone in your post. Congratulations on your success. And may you continue to have much success!0
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I never eat Folks, so maybe that's why I'm not losing? I do say, however, I don't think cannibalism is kosher, let alone legal.0
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Judgmental?0
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Like I always say... If there was a thing as starvation mode then anorexia wouldn't be a problem ... Obviously you lose weight if you just don't eat. NO it's not healthy just a fact.
I've been saying that too. I swear they try to scare people into doing what they want.0
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