Coffee is not breakfast.

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  • AlyRoseNYC
    AlyRoseNYC Posts: 1,075 Member
    cofee is not breakfast if you dont eat your body go into starveing mode and you hold on to the fat

    Oy.

    Judging by her join date and post count, she is probably brand new and has had the "starvation mode" message from MFP by going under her calories. Cut the newbies some slack. They are still learning =)
  • shock2920
    shock2920 Posts: 4 Member
    I'd beg to differ with the folks who say timing doesn't matter, because timing does indeed affect your metabolic rate. The calorie targets MFP (or any calorie counting system) sets are based on averages and "normal" metabolisms. When your body goes into starvation mode from not eating in the morning, you no longer have a "normal" metabolism. Instead of burning say 80 calories per hour while sitting at your desk, you may instead be burning 60 as your body tries to conserve energy. Most of those calories you ate the night before have already been used or stored in fat or muscle cells.

    Your body will start using muscle tissue for energy, which over the long term will bring your metabolic rate down even more. If you then eat all of your calories at the end of the day, your body does adjust slightly, but not enough to compensate for the entire day's reduced metabolic rate. So you may indeed struggle more to lose weight, even eating the same number of calories because you are NOT burning the same calories as someone who eats regularly.

    Aside from weight issues, going through periods of starvation will also lead to spikes in blood sugar, making you more susceptible to diabetes. So ultimately, whether you're hungry or not, it's probably a good idea to eat something for breakfast.
  • Dovekat
    Dovekat Posts: 263 Member
    I don't eat until at least an hour after I have gotten up or I feel sick, it's always been that way. Sometimes it's more like two hours *shrugs* everyone is different my SO is a Bear if he dosen't get his. I normally stick to a slowly sipped cup of tea or coffee and a bottle of water first thing. When I stop feeling as though I just got of a fair ride then I eat :laugh:
  • My Nanny swears by a milky coffee for breakfast, both my mum and myself got that before school and it was enough. If your body isn't up for food that early then I don't think that's a problem. Forcing yourself to eat breakfast can be more dangerous because you're ignoring your bodies wants and needs.
    I normally have a piece of fruit and some tea for breakfast, but some days it's only coffee, and some days it's a full blown Egg and bacon deal :) Each to their own. If however she's binging in the late afternoon and evening then that's her problem and she should learn to pace herself throughout the day rather than a big lump at the end.
    Just listening to your body is the best way to loose weight, I think x
  • Sidesteal
    Sidesteal Posts: 5,510 Member
    I'd beg to differ with the folks who say timing doesn't matter, because timing does indeed affect your metabolic rate.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/529002-a-compliation-on-meal-frequency
  • servilia
    servilia Posts: 3,452 Member
    For the millionth time, you don't need to eat breakfast to "jump start" your metabolism. That's complete BS!!
  • alexis831
    alexis831 Posts: 469 Member
    I'd beg to differ with the folks who say timing doesn't matter, because timing does indeed affect your metabolic rate.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/529002-a-compliation-on-meal-frequency

    Hah! I know... People crap their pants when they look at my diary and can’t understand how that works exactly. I alot of times don’t eat breakfast or just have coffee. Then pig out on candy most of the day. Today which is unusual, I had a quiktrip coffee, donut, and breakfast sandwhich this morning. My body said eat so I listened. I probably won't eat tho until much much later considering I am already at almost 900 calories at 6:30 am in the morning and when I eat big I am just not hungry until way later. Most days I don't eat until lunch or right before. Its totally about you and how you like to eat and has nothing to do with timing. It takes what 60 hours to go into starvation mode. I assure you with skipping breakfast I am within my 60 hours. And that whole you have more energy if you eat 6 small meals…. A lot of times I have energy just fine in the morning without breakfast.
  • vim_n_vigor
    vim_n_vigor Posts: 4,089 Member
    I'd beg to differ with the folks who say timing doesn't matter, because timing does indeed affect your metabolic rate. The calorie targets MFP (or any calorie counting system) sets are based on averages and "normal" metabolisms. When your body goes into starvation mode from not eating in the morning, you no longer have a "normal" metabolism. Instead of burning say 80 calories per hour while sitting at your desk, you may instead be burning 60 as your body tries to conserve energy. Most of those calories you ate the night before have already been used or stored in fat or muscle cells.

    Your body will start using muscle tissue for energy, which over the long term will bring your metabolic rate down even more. If you then eat all of your calories at the end of the day, your body does adjust slightly, but not enough to compensate for the entire day's reduced metabolic rate. So you may indeed struggle more to lose weight, even eating the same number of calories because you are NOT burning the same calories as someone who eats regularly.

    Aside from weight issues, going through periods of starvation will also lead to spikes in blood sugar, making you more susceptible to diabetes. So ultimately, whether you're hungry or not, it's probably a good idea to eat something for breakfast.

    If there is a change in metabolism, it is negligible. You can go much longer than 12 hours before having a change in metabolism.
  • haha, don't you just hate it when you start a thread about arguing with a coworker... and YOU are the one who's wrong! :laugh:

    Don't you just hate it when you reply to a thread telling the person who started the thread that they are wrong when in fact it's you that is really wrong?! :bigsmile:
  • vim_n_vigor
    vim_n_vigor Posts: 4,089 Member
    haha, don't you just hate it when you start a thread about arguing with a coworker... and YOU are the one who's wrong! :laugh:

    Don't you just hate it when you reply to a thread telling the person who started the thread that they are wrong when in fact it's you that is really wrong?! :bigsmile:

    But the OP is wrong. You don't go into starvation mode over night. You don't have to eat 30 minutes after you wake up. This is an issue of preference. OP can eat her breakfast and her friend can drink coffee, and they can both lose weight. It is the day, the week in total that will determine their loss, not how they choose to eat one meal.
  • ellenxmariex3
    ellenxmariex3 Posts: 165 Member
    I don't think breakfast is a necessity for everyone. Do what you want and what works for you.

    Now for me, it is a necessity. I used to work a diner and then a bagel shop. I think my body is just used to waking up and eating. I always wake up hungry.

    Now here's the shocker for everyone: I can't have coffee. It gives me stomach pains.
  • Barbellerella
    Barbellerella Posts: 1,838 Member
    I'm enjoying my "coffee breakfast" as we speak. And I'm not stressing bout it :wink:
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    I don't think it matters what time of day you eat.
  • For me, it is usually breakfast. I am not really hungry when I get up, and really don't want anything to eat yet. So, coffee does it for me until I get a bite to eat, which is usually lunch.
  • spacecase76
    spacecase76 Posts: 673 Member
    what time you eat doesn't matter. AND, it takes more than 1 meal, more than 1 day for your body to go into "starvation mode". I get so tired of everyone throwing that around all the time. One day being under calories isn't going to hurt you. Heck 2 out of 7 days a week being under 1200 won't hurt you. Starvation Mode is activated by a long period of *actual* starvation. Minimum, it takes DAYS of not eating to make it kick in.
  • KStambulic
    KStambulic Posts: 131
    The idea of needing breakfast to "jump start your metabolism" is a myth. Timing of meals simply does not matter when it comes to losing weight.

    Personally, I've never been a breakfast eater, my whole life. I've tried to force it on previous weight loss attempts (because everybody says you have to) and had a miserable time. I'd be ravenously hungry for the rest of the day no matter what I ate, irritable, and just generally in a foul mood. Now, I usually get up around 7-8AM and don't eat until after noon. And I feel great, with tons more energy and a much more stable and positive mood.

    If eating breakfast works best for you, do it. If not eating breakfast works best for you, then do that. Simple as that.

    ^^This is what I was going to say. And as for coffee being an appetite suppressor, even on the days I have only water not coffee in the mornings, I'm not hungry until after noon.
  • sheclimbsrocks
    sheclimbsrocks Posts: 110 Member
    I eat when I'm hungry.

    I'm with you. I don't get hungry until 10am or so. If I am hungry earlier, I eat earlier. I listen to my body.
  • Dezmodus
    Dezmodus Posts: 68 Member
    big (but still healthy) breakfast, small lunch, smaller dinner. it's more likely that you'll burn calories BEFORE dinner than after.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    I'd beg to differ with the folks who say timing doesn't matter, because timing does indeed affect your metabolic rate. The calorie targets MFP (or any calorie counting system) sets are based on averages and "normal" metabolisms. When your body goes into starvation mode from not eating in the morning, you no longer have a "normal" metabolism. Instead of burning say 80 calories per hour while sitting at your desk, you may instead be burning 60 as your body tries to conserve energy. Most of those calories you ate the night before have already been used or stored in fat or muscle cells.

    Your body will start using muscle tissue for energy, which over the long term will bring your metabolic rate down even more. If you then eat all of your calories at the end of the day, your body does adjust slightly, but not enough to compensate for the entire day's reduced metabolic rate. So you may indeed struggle more to lose weight, even eating the same number of calories because you are NOT burning the same calories as someone who eats regularly.

    Aside from weight issues, going through periods of starvation will also lead to spikes in blood sugar, making you more susceptible to diabetes. So ultimately, whether you're hungry or not, it's probably a good idea to eat something for breakfast.

    Wrong on so many levels!
  • itgeekwoman
    itgeekwoman Posts: 804 Member
    NAY.. coffee is not breakfast. I am not even allowed to have it while I'm working with the nutritionist !!!! No caffeine allowed. It's helped me lose weight and my metabolism is going full steam!!
  • chevy88grl
    chevy88grl Posts: 3,937 Member
    When I was heavier, I never ate breakfast. A 12oz can of Mt Dew was breakfast. I wouldn't eat anything until 3 or 4pm and then I swear to you, I would basically eat like it was my last meal until I went to bed.

    Now, I eat breakfast every morning (yes, it was definitely something I had to adjust to doing!). I don't find myself gorging later in the evening. I feel better overall.

    I don't necessarily believe that eating breakfast ramps up your metabolism like so many articles out there want us to believe, but it definitely makes ME feel better. Course, I also find that eating every few hours makes me feel better too (again, for energy/blood sugar reasons - NOT for my metabolism).
  • Qarol
    Qarol Posts: 6,171 Member
    Breakfast is an option.

    Coffee, however, is not.
  • ElizabethRoad
    ElizabethRoad Posts: 5,138 Member
    big (but still healthy) breakfast, small lunch, smaller dinner. it's more likely that you'll burn calories BEFORE dinner than after.
    I burn calories all day long, all night while sleeping, and I continue burning them the next morning too!
  • beckajw
    beckajw Posts: 1,728 Member
    big (but still healthy) breakfast, small lunch, smaller dinner. it's more likely that you'll burn calories BEFORE dinner than after.
    I burn calories all day long, all night while sleeping, and I continue burning them the next morning too!

    ^^ This. Time of day does not matter.
  • Barbellerella
    Barbellerella Posts: 1,838 Member
    NAY.. coffee is not breakfast. I am not even allowed to have it while I'm working with the nutritionist !!!! No caffeine allowed. It's helped me lose weight and my metabolism is going full steam!!

    The only thing that is helping you lose weight is being in a caloric deficit. My2C
  • I don’t understand why one would drink their calories rather than eat them. Personally I only drink water, tea and sometimes coffee however most if not all my calories are in my food. I make sure I eat breakfast if I don’t I’m starving by lunch and we all know being hungry works against weight loss, you shouldn’t be hungry throughout your day. Lots of healthy snacks between healthy meals. Just coffee for breakfast seems like a waste of good calories that can be eaten and would be way more satisfying.

    We are all different and our bodies respond to diets in different ways but eating right is universal, no matter your body type as long as you put heathy food inside, your body will begin to look healthy on the outside even with little to no exercise.


    Michelle <3
  • AngryDiet
    AngryDiet Posts: 1,349 Member
    NAY.. coffee is not breakfast. I am not even allowed to have it while I'm working with the nutritionist !!!! No caffeine allowed. It's helped me lose weight and my metabolism is going full steam!!

    Wow, overbearing nutritionist!
  • ElizabethRoad
    ElizabethRoad Posts: 5,138 Member
    I don’t understand why one would drink their calories rather than eat them. Personally I only drink water, tea and sometimes coffee however most if not all my calories are in my food. I make sure I eat breakfast if I don’t I’m starving by lunch and we all know being hungry works against weight loss, you shouldn’t be hungry throughout your day. Lots of healthy snacks between healthy meals. Just coffee for breakfast seems like a waste of good calories that can be eaten and would be way more satisfying.

    We are all different and our bodies respond to diets in different ways but eating right is universal, no matter your body type as long as you put heathy food inside, your body will begin to look healthy on the outside even with little to no exercise.


    Michelle <3
    Maybe I missed it, but who said anything about drinking calories? Also, what's wrong with it?
  • o2bADyer
    o2bADyer Posts: 208
    I don't see how coffee can be considered as breakfast, but that is just me. What I say is "to each their own" and let people figure out what works for them. :bigsmile: Everyone is different.
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