Overweight and obese children!!!
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Our community has some severely obese children. Whenever I see them, I want to cry. How can those parents do that to their kids? There's no way all them have medical conditions, so it must be the parents. One little girl just breaks my heart every time I see her. She's in grade school and morbidly obese.
There is a flip side to this, though. I have two boys at home, (my daughter's 20 and on her own), and the older one has a very trim, athletic build, (I have NO idea where he got his genes!!! (jk)), and his brother, 21months younger, has a build more like mine. I know it's my fault for constantly calling myself fat (which I'm working on it), so now he's calling himself fat all the time. I Googled healthy weight range for 13 year old boys and it said between 128 and 156lbs. He's well within that range. I keep telling him he's not fat; I hope that if I keep telling him he's perfectly normal, he'll believe me.
It opened my eyes a little bit. I know we all want our kids to be healthy and happy and not grow up to be fat like many of us are, but we have to be careful not to make them obsess over it either and develop unhealthy body images of themselves.0 -
As an adult who decides to have a child it is your responsibility to ensure that your child learns what it needs to know in order to live in the world. It isn't just food I am sorry to say. Parents (and I don't mean anyone specifically just in general) are lazy. This is one of my biggest peeves so forgive me if I rant. I will say from the start that if the child has a medically diagnosed condition then this is not directed at them. This is for 'normal' children with no other problems...Also when I say 'you' or 'your' this is in the general not directed at anyone in specific so please no one be offended
I have seen children sitting in strollers well past time when they should be walking..if a child can walk then that's it for the stroller apart from very rare occasions when it is simply too much walking for a small child. Don't be scared to push them a little. If a parent lets them get away with being lazy, eating everything they want and talking back then this is what they will get. Period.
I've seen kids having temper tantrums in the middle of shops because they want something and the parents just standing there watching them..for pity's sake take the kid outside. If they can't control themselves it is the parents job to do it for them. If that means the grocery shopping needs to get done another time when the child is either behaving or with a sitter then that's what has to happen. Children ARE inconvenient, life does not just go on as if nothing happened when you have one. Perenting takes effort.
When there is crap in the house that is what the kids want. If they don't KNOW what a coke is then they won't ask for it. If they have never been to McDonalds then they don't ask for it. If they don't KNOW that kids "aren't supposed to like" liver, brussel sprouts and vegetables they will eat whatever they are given. Children will eat what you eat. If they are offered treats then that is what they will want - I mean would you rather eat something yummy and chocolaty sweet or a big plate of spinach?? Kids aren't stupid..they will go for the treats every time if they have the choice. The trick is not to give them that choice until they are responsible enough to make it and by that time if everything has been done with the best interest of the child in mind they won't 'crave' crap.
The job of a parent is not to be friends, or buddies with their child.. it is to parent them. To make the decisions regarding what they eat and how much of it. To explain when they cry or whine that the behavior will not be tolerated and they do not get the choice. It's annoying to deal with a screaming child yes, but honestly, it takes only a few times to break them of those habits and have a respectful child that listens, does what they are told and has no food fetishes (most of the time).
There is nothing wrong with offering a treat on occasion but if it is offered daily or with any frequency then the child will expect it. Right now we are fighting this with our 4 yr old because he is not with us full time and gets given treats by others who take care of him. Last night he asked for a reward for doing something he was asked to do..omg child.. needless to say he was advised that this is not an acceptable behavior and I guarantee he will not ask again.
We have junk in the house since my thin as a rail boyfriend likes to pig out on things, but he responsible enough not to do it until AFTER his son goes to bed and to clean up the wrappers, and bags before the morning because if it is left out in sight his son will ask for some. Monkey see, Monkey do..
Your thin as a rail boyfriend likes to pig out on things - so its okay because he is thin and doesn't do it in front of son.
Don't you know? The best parents in the world are those that don't have kids (eyeroll)0 -
As an adult who decides to have a child it is your responsibility to ensure that your child learns what it needs to know in order to live in the world. It isn't just food I am sorry to say. Parents (and I don't mean anyone specifically just in general) are lazy. This is one of my biggest peeves so forgive me if I rant. I will say from the start that if the child has a medically diagnosed condition then this is not directed at them. This is for 'normal' children with no other problems...Also when I say 'you' or 'your' this is in the general not directed at anyone in specific so please no one be offended
I have seen children sitting in strollers well past time when they should be walking..if a child can walk then that's it for the stroller apart from very rare occasions when it is simply too much walking for a small child. Don't be scared to push them a little. If a parent lets them get away with being lazy, eating everything they want and talking back then this is what they will get. Period.
I've seen kids having temper tantrums in the middle of shops because they want something and the parents just standing there watching them..for pity's sake take the kid outside. If they can't control themselves it is the parents job to do it for them. If that means the grocery shopping needs to get done another time when the child is either behaving or with a sitter then that's what has to happen. Children ARE inconvenient, life does not just go on as if nothing happened when you have one. Perenting takes effort.
When there is crap in the house that is what the kids want. If they don't KNOW what a coke is then they won't ask for it. If they have never been to McDonalds then they don't ask for it. If they don't KNOW that kids "aren't supposed to like" liver, brussel sprouts and vegetables they will eat whatever they are given. Children will eat what you eat. If they are offered treats then that is what they will want - I mean would you rather eat something yummy and chocolaty sweet or a big plate of spinach?? Kids aren't stupid..they will go for the treats every time if they have the choice. The trick is not to give them that choice until they are responsible enough to make it and by that time if everything has been done with the best interest of the child in mind they won't 'crave' crap.
The job of a parent is not to be friends, or buddies with their child.. it is to parent them. To make the decisions regarding what they eat and how much of it. To explain when they cry or whine that the behavior will not be tolerated and they do not get the choice. It's annoying to deal with a screaming child yes, but honestly, it takes only a few times to break them of those habits and have a respectful child that listens, does what they are told and has no food fetishes (most of the time).
There is nothing wrong with offering a treat on occasion but if it is offered daily or with any frequency then the child will expect it. Right now we are fighting this with our 4 yr old because he is not with us full time and gets given treats by others who take care of him. Last night he asked for a reward for doing something he was asked to do..omg child.. needless to say he was advised that this is not an acceptable behavior and I guarantee he will not ask again.
We have junk in the house since my thin as a rail boyfriend likes to pig out on things, but he responsible enough not to do it until AFTER his son goes to bed and to clean up the wrappers, and bags before the morning because if it is left out in sight his son will ask for some. Monkey see, Monkey do..
Your thin as a rail boyfriend likes to pig out on things - so its okay because he is thin and doesn't do it in front of son.
Don't you know? The best parents in the world are those that don't have kids (eyeroll)
I was an AWESOME mom. Until my child was born. Now I'm a failure because I don't keep him housebound 100% of the time, saving strangers from the laborious task of judging my parenting based on a tiny peek into the window of my day/life/child's personality. So sorry.0 -
In case anyone is interested - Ellyn Satter has a book about fostering healthy eating habits with kids, starting from when they are little. It's called "Child of Mine."
Basically, she describes a "division of responsibility" , and you don't ever force a kid to eat.
You decide, what, when and where they eat, and kids decide whether to eat and how much. (So, chicken, rice and broccoli, at the dinner table, 5:00 pm; up to the kid whether they take one bite, ten bites or non.) Always have something at the table the kid likes - something incorporated into the meal. (like if your kid likes pasta, but not sauce, fine to serve pasta separately. Kid can eat pasta sauce or not, no biggie.
The idea is to avoid conflict over food. Kids want to establish autonomy; one way of exerting control is to eat or not eat. I matter of factly serve my daughter whatever we're eating. I have found that she is much more likely to try a new food if there is also something familiar on the table. But I don't push her to try "one more bite" or whatever. Sometimes she eats more than me, sometimes she eats nothing at all, and her weight is just fine. Children encouraged to eat more (underweight) will generally end up eating less , and overweight children encouraged to eat less will end up eating more.
So what do you do when your kid is hungry an hour later if it's a day she decided not to eat?
I don't force any of my children to eat. However, they will not get anything else either. I'm not trying to feed them liver and onions here. We're talking grilled chicken -- stuff that they've had before. If they don't want it, fine. Go play (when everyone else is done of course) but if you come back hungry in an hour, guess what they're getting? Dinner. Not a pb&j. My kids would eat that for every meal if that's the way it worked.0 -
As an adult who decides to have a child it is your responsibility to ensure that your child learns what it needs to know in order to live in the world. It isn't just food I am sorry to say. Parents (and I don't mean anyone specifically just in general) are lazy. This is one of my biggest peeves so forgive me if I rant. I will say from the start that if the child has a medically diagnosed condition then this is not directed at them. This is for 'normal' children with no other problems...Also when I say 'you' or 'your' this is in the general not directed at anyone in specific so please no one be offended
I have seen children sitting in strollers well past time when they should be walking..if a child can walk then that's it for the stroller apart from very rare occasions when it is simply too much walking for a small child. Don't be scared to push them a little. If a parent lets them get away with being lazy, eating everything they want and talking back then this is what they will get. Period.
I've seen kids having temper tantrums in the middle of shops because they want something and the parents just standing there watching them..for pity's sake take the kid outside. If they can't control themselves it is the parents job to do it for them. If that means the grocery shopping needs to get done another time when the child is either behaving or with a sitter then that's what has to happen. Children ARE inconvenient, life does not just go on as if nothing happened when you have one. Perenting takes effort.
When there is crap in the house that is what the kids want. If they don't KNOW what a coke is then they won't ask for it. If they have never been to McDonalds then they don't ask for it. If they don't KNOW that kids "aren't supposed to like" liver, brussel sprouts and vegetables they will eat whatever they are given. Children will eat what you eat. If they are offered treats then that is what they will want - I mean would you rather eat something yummy and chocolaty sweet or a big plate of spinach?? Kids aren't stupid..they will go for the treats every time if they have the choice. The trick is not to give them that choice until they are responsible enough to make it and by that time if everything has been done with the best interest of the child in mind they won't 'crave' crap.
The job of a parent is not to be friends, or buddies with their child.. it is to parent them. To make the decisions regarding what they eat and how much of it. To explain when they cry or whine that the behavior will not be tolerated and they do not get the choice. It's annoying to deal with a screaming child yes, but honestly, it takes only a few times to break them of those habits and have a respectful child that listens, does what they are told and has no food fetishes (most of the time).
There is nothing wrong with offering a treat on occasion but if it is offered daily or with any frequency then the child will expect it. Right now we are fighting this with our 4 yr old because he is not with us full time and gets given treats by others who take care of him. Last night he asked for a reward for doing something he was asked to do..omg child.. needless to say he was advised that this is not an acceptable behavior and I guarantee he will not ask again.
We have junk in the house since my thin as a rail boyfriend likes to pig out on things, but he responsible enough not to do it until AFTER his son goes to bed and to clean up the wrappers, and bags before the morning because if it is left out in sight his son will ask for some. Monkey see, Monkey do..
Your thin as a rail boyfriend likes to pig out on things - so its okay because he is thin and doesn't do it in front of son.
Don't you know? The best parents in the world are those that don't have kids (eyeroll)
I was an AWESOME mom. Until my child was born. Now I'm a failure because I don't keep him housebound 100% of the time, saving strangers from the laborious task of judging my parenting based on a tiny peek into the window of my day/life/child's personality. So sorry.
Me too! I am also SO sorry that I let my 2-year-old cry in the store because she wants chocolate and I say "no"....it's a 40-mile round trip but I guess I should just go home and try another day when she can learn to behave like a little adult.0 -
The myth about kids not going outside to play and such not is NOT always the reason why the child is overweight.
I was fat since a few months after birth. As a young-in, I was sent outside to play from sunrise to sunset. I wasn't a picky eater, but my mom would starve us if we didn't eat what she cooked or made us wait at the table till we did.
But also my mother used food as a bribe. Here, have a cookie now go outside and leave me alone. The neighbors would often feed the kids in the block also. Heck, I would babysit and no joking, they would pay me in snacks. We grew up drinking Kool-aid by the gallon!
And all of these happened in the early to mid 80's.
Now a days, kids expect to get everything and anything they want. But also - have you seen all the ads EVERYWHERE about food? Hell, there wasn't a soda machine in ANY of my schools until my last 6 months of 12th grade. Now - kids have access to all sorts of crap food.
Plus, it doesn't help that now there are more electronic devices that keep kids indoors and still. But, adults also use these devices just as much or in some cases more than children.
Our culture has changed, and for better or worse, we let it. We let it dictate what we do and how we eat and try to find excuses and reasons behind it so we DON'T have to change and don't need to take the blame that we should.
But even then, that doesn't cover it all. There are so many reasons why a person or child could be overweight - it's impossible to lump sum all the reasons. Could it be medical? Could they not have enough money for better options? Do the parents care enough to say no or do they fear they will be blamed if they deny their brat a treat and they go tell their teacher that Mommy starves them?
The world has changed and probably not all for the better.0 -
As an adult who decides to have a child it is your responsibility to ensure that your child learns what it needs to know in order to live in the world. It isn't just food I am sorry to say. Parents (and I don't mean anyone specifically just in general) are lazy. This is one of my biggest peeves so forgive me if I rant. I will say from the start that if the child has a medically diagnosed condition then this is not directed at them. This is for 'normal' children with no other problems...Also when I say 'you' or 'your' this is in the general not directed at anyone in specific so please no one be offended
I have seen children sitting in strollers well past time when they should be walking..if a child can walk then that's it for the stroller apart from very rare occasions when it is simply too much walking for a small child. Don't be scared to push them a little. If a parent lets them get away with being lazy, eating everything they want and talking back then this is what they will get. Period.
I've seen kids having temper tantrums in the middle of shops because they want something and the parents just standing there watching them..for pity's sake take the kid outside. If they can't control themselves it is the parents job to do it for them. If that means the grocery shopping needs to get done another time when the child is either behaving or with a sitter then that's what has to happen. Children ARE inconvenient, life does not just go on as if nothing happened when you have one. Perenting takes effort.
When there is crap in the house that is what the kids want. If they don't KNOW what a coke is then they won't ask for it. If they have never been to McDonalds then they don't ask for it. If they don't KNOW that kids "aren't supposed to like" liver, brussel sprouts and vegetables they will eat whatever they are given. Children will eat what you eat. If they are offered treats then that is what they will want - I mean would you rather eat something yummy and chocolaty sweet or a big plate of spinach?? Kids aren't stupid..they will go for the treats every time if they have the choice. The trick is not to give them that choice until they are responsible enough to make it and by that time if everything has been done with the best interest of the child in mind they won't 'crave' crap.
The job of a parent is not to be friends, or buddies with their child.. it is to parent them. To make the decisions regarding what they eat and how much of it. To explain when they cry or whine that the behavior will not be tolerated and they do not get the choice. It's annoying to deal with a screaming child yes, but honestly, it takes only a few times to break them of those habits and have a respectful child that listens, does what they are told and has no food fetishes (most of the time).
There is nothing wrong with offering a treat on occasion but if it is offered daily or with any frequency then the child will expect it. Right now we are fighting this with our 4 yr old because he is not with us full time and gets given treats by others who take care of him. Last night he asked for a reward for doing something he was asked to do..omg child.. needless to say he was advised that this is not an acceptable behavior and I guarantee he will not ask again.
We have junk in the house since my thin as a rail boyfriend likes to pig out on things, but he responsible enough not to do it until AFTER his son goes to bed and to clean up the wrappers, and bags before the morning because if it is left out in sight his son will ask for some. Monkey see, Monkey do..
Your thin as a rail boyfriend likes to pig out on things - so its okay because he is thin and doesn't do it in front of son.
Don't you know? The best parents in the world are those that don't have kids (eyeroll)
I was an AWESOME mom. Until my child was born. Now I'm a failure because I don't keep him housebound 100% of the time, saving strangers from the laborious task of judging my parenting based on a tiny peek into the window of my day/life/child's personality. So sorry.
Me too! I am also SO sorry that I let my 2-year-old cry in the store because she wants chocolate and I say "no"....it's a 40-mile round trip but I guess I should just go home and try another day when she can learn to behave like a little adult.
THE NERVE! OF BOTH OF YOU!!
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IF THEY DID NOT COME FROM YOUR LOINS,THEN M.Y.O.B.
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It's hard. Of course, in an ideal world parents would only feed their children nutritious meals, the kids would eat them without complaint, the parents would take the kids to the park every day and swimming every weekend ...
Reality is that it's easier to heat up a ready meal, and sometimes kids scream and refuse to eat their vegetables, and parents have to work so they park their kids in front of the TV so they can do what they need to to get paid. Is it wrong? Of course it is. But I would never judge those doing the best they can by their kids.
I watched a couple kids this summer. Constantly crying for snacks, saying they were hungry ... I gave in nearly every time. If my niece or nephews ask me for a treat, I nearly always give it to them just because I can't bear to see them cry. Am I a pushover? Yes. Of course, I'm not their mother, but it does make me feel a bit more sympathetic to how hard it can be, especially if the bad habits have already been formed.
I'm not saying it's a excuse. It's not. Parents have a responsibility to do their absolute best to raise their children to be healthy. And of course it makes me so sad to see children who have this issue through no real fault of their own, who will probably have problems with their weight their whole lives.
But I struggle hugely with my own food intake. Being responsible for another person's would overwhelm me entirely. So who I am to glower at parents who have got it wrong?0 -
An overweight child is caused by their parents/caretaker who are supplying them with the wrong foods too often. These kids are not buying their own food. I am fortunate my children are both thin, even though I do allow them sweets and snacks occasionally. As with everything, MODERATION is the key!0
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let's start a thread that talks badly about children to make ourselves feel better. woohoo!!0
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Some kids just have weight problems because of their genes. I was one of these kids. You see kids who are rails and eat like pigs. I don't think the heavier kids are eating much more....not most of them anyway.0
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IF THEY DID NOT COME FROM YOUR LOINS,THEN M.Y.O.B.
Jus sayin'
Thank you! :drinker:
Seriously, you wonder why bullying is such a major issue in schools? THEY LEARN IT FROM THEIR PARENTS; judgmental parents like you. You guys are sitting around judging and preaching about these poor fat kids and don't have one clue what is going on in their lives. I think you should focus on making your children all little nicer to other kids instead of teaching them to focus on fat. Kids are super sensitive and are bullied for the littlest things. Most bullying leads to these "poor fat kids" becoming down on themselves and thus eating more to distract from the hurt. Where is the compassion? Where is the common decency to not make it a point to point out that they're fat? They know they're fat and probably already hate themselves at age 10.... maybe there's a medical condition? Maybe their life is really, really rough? Maybe it's learned? Who's to make that assumption?
This is why there is such a stigma attached to being fat. It's not because of health, it's because people are afraid of it for vanity's sake. Maybe... just maybe... by you making such a big deal about the fat kid, your kids are seeing that and carrying it into school and then 'doing what mommy did at the mall' by commenting on the poor fat kid? There's a lot worse things than being fat... being a judgmental, preachy person comes to mind.
Get off your high horses and go do some cardio.0 -
let's start a thread that talks badly about children to make ourselves feel better. woohoo!!
I think there are some responders to this post that have done that, but I also think, as a fitness site, we need to recognize what got us (former kids) to where we are and how we (some as parents) need to stop the cycle. I would like to think this topic has shined light on some people who haven't the strength to admit they may be harming their own children, unknowingly.0 -
IF THEY DID NOT COME FROM YOUR LOINS,THEN M.Y.O.B.
Jus sayin'
Thank you! :drinker:
Seriously, you wonder why bullying is such a major issue in schools? THEY LEARN IT FROM THEIR PARENTS; judgmental parents like you. You guys are sitting around judging and preaching about these poor fat kids and don't have one clue what is going on in their lives. I think you should focus on making your children all little nicer to other kids instead of teaching them to focus on fat. Kids are super sensitive and are bullied for the littlest things. Most bullying leads to these "poor fat kids" becoming down on themselves and thus eating more to distract from the hurt. Where is the compassion? Where is the common decency to not make it a point to point out that they're fat? They know they're fat and probably already hate themselves at age 10.... maybe there's a medical condition? Maybe their life is really, really rough? Maybe it's learned? Who's to make that assumption?
This is why there is such a stigma attached to being fat. It's not because of health, it's because people are afraid of it for vanity's sake. Maybe... just maybe... by you making such a big deal about the fat kid, your kids are seeing that and carrying it into school and then 'doing what mommy did at the mall' by commenting on the poor fat kid? There's a lot worse things than being fat... being a judgmental, preachy person comes to mind.
Get off your high horses and go do some cardio.
THIS.
OP, Go ahead and do yourself a favor and stop starting threads like this. Is it really necessary? p.s. it's a no.0 -
let's start a thread that talks badly about children to make ourselves feel better. woohoo!!
I think there are some responders to this post that have done that, but I also think, as a fitness site, we need to recognize what got us (former kids) to where we are and how we (some as parents) need to stop the cycle. I would like to think this topic has shined light on some people who haven't the strength to admit they may be harming their own children, unknowingly.
A thread like this will probably never change a parent's view on their parenting skills and how/what they feed their children. Honestly I think it's rude to talk about other people's kids in the first place. Unless it's YOUR OWN CHILD and you are asking for advice, then don't start a thread about it.0 -
It's a combination of no common sense and sheer laziness on the part of "responsible adults." My ex-husband was a victim of this, and I have no intention of subjecting my children to this!0
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Wow, I am *totally* jealous that you can walk around without thinking anything about your surroundings. Have fun getting robbed/raped/ripped off because of your inability to judge a situation not being right.
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NOW THAT IS A LITTLE EXTREME THERE, DON'T YOU THINK?
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umm yeah...0 -
child protective services should get involved with obese children. let doctors and schools report them.0
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child protective services should get involved with obese children. let doctors and schools report them.
aww snap... they're definitely coming for me then
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child protective services should get involved with obese children. let doctors and schools report them.
aww snap... they're definitely coming for me then
if your kid is obese the should. obesity is doing harm just like physical abuse. in some cases its worse.
i havent read all of this thread but if your child is obese....why so?0 -
child protective services should get involved with obese children. let doctors and schools report them.
Better warn all my friends - what about children who are seriously underweight? They would love you at a play scheme for special kids.0 -
Oh wow. It must be great to be the world's most perfect parent. Please, oh please, tell me how you do it!!!0
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It's heart breaking I think.
I was at the gym yesterday and saw a girl who couldn't have been older than 12, she was overweight and at the gym on the treadmill. I mean I guess they're trying to combat it but it's sad that he even has to be there in the first place.
I agree, there was maybe two or three "fat kids" through our entire primary school years and they probably wouldn't have even been considered fat compared to today's fat kids.
Like I said, heartbreaking, the result of ignorance and abuse0 -
child protective services should get involved with obese children. let doctors and schools report them.
aww snap... they're definitely coming for me then
if your kid is obese the should. obesity is doing harm just like physical abuse. in some cases its worse.
i havent read all of this thread but if your child is obese....why so?
my child isn't obese you dork. she's 10 months old. duh0 -
Wow, I am *totally* jealous that you can walk around without thinking anything about your surroundings. Have fun getting robbed/raped/ripped off because of your inability to judge a situation not being right.
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NOW THAT IS A LITTLE EXTREME THERE, DON'T YOU THINK?
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Let me remind you that you were the one that clicked on this thread, read all of the replies, and then told everyone how terrible they were for having a thought in their head. Seeing an obese tried strikes a severe emotion in a normal person. That emotion drives people to want to discuss it. That's all that's going on here as far as I can tell.
We're not talking about getting a coalition together and confronting parents of obese children, here. It's just a discussion. People are *so* high and mighty on the internet!0 -
child protective services should get involved with obese children. let doctors and schools report them.
Better warn all my friends - what about children who are seriously underweight? They would love you at a play scheme for special kids.
those parents should probably just be put in prison, it's the most logical thing to do.0 -
child protective services should get involved with obese children. let doctors and schools report them.
aww snap... they're definitely coming for me then
if your kid is obese the should. obesity is doing harm just like physical abuse. in some cases its worse.
i havent read all of this thread but if your child is obese....why so?
my child isn't obese you dork. she's 10 months old. duh
wow you are weird. i was asking if she was because you are the one who said CPS would be coming for you.0 -
child protective services should get involved with obese children. let doctors and schools report them.
Better warn all my friends - what about children who are seriously underweight?
of course! when we see underweight animals on tv are we glad when the SPCA steps in to help?
all of your friends have obese and underweight children? thats horrible.0 -
child protective services should get involved with obese children. let doctors and schools report them.
aww snap... they're definitely coming for me then
if your kid is obese the should. obesity is doing harm just like physical abuse. in some cases its worse.
i havent read all of this thread but if your child is obese....why so?
my child isn't obese you dork. she's 10 months old. duh
wow you are weird. i was asking if she was because you are the one who said CPS would be coming for you.
let me think on it...I'm going to go feed her some doughnuts first.0
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