Toxic Parents...don't believe what you are told

All my life, I have been told I was "fat", by my MOTHER. Yes, the one person who should love you unconditionally, told me that I was fat, despite not actually being overweight. I am 5' 2", and up until a few years ago, I was 36-24-36, and weighed around 119 - 124, apart from a time when I was so depressed, I dropped to 97lb at the age of 23. Then, I got told I was too thin, by my mother. I then realized nothing would ever please her, I would never be good enough. A number of years back, I went back home to visit my family, it had been 3 years since I had seen them, and the first thing my mother said... you guessed it.."you're so fat". NOT I missed you, or it is nice to see you. After a whole week of abuse. I told her "I love you, but I am not prepared to put up with this abuse any longer" I turned around, and flew back to the US. I got home feeling like THE worst daughter in the world.

I was wandering around a book store, and found this book: "Toxic Parents: Overcoming Their Hurtful Legacy and Reclaiming Your Life" by Susan Forward. I bought it, and spent the rest of the day reading it. As I was reading, I kept nodding my head, and saying to my partner "listen to this, does this sound familiar?". I found a book that did not tell you to "forgive and forget", because HOW can you forgive someone who will repeat the pattern of abuse? Some people will say it isn't abuse, but it is. Emotional abuse stays with you, pretty much your whole life. After reading the book, I no longer felt like a bad daughter, my actions were valid.

I ate like a bird, no chips, candy, chocolate, fried food, or soda, and I gained weight...a lot of weight. I actually eat more now, than I ever did before I started on MFP.

Basically, all I wanted to say, was.. if there are any young people out there, that have been told you are "fat".... get real support, from TRUSTED people... the school nurse, your family doctor or nurse, a family member who believes in you, a teacher or school counselor. I wish you all the best, be yourself... have fun, and remember... there is always one person out there who believes in you. It WILL get better.
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  • _Wits_
    _Wits_ Posts: 1,286 Member
    Great post...and a great book. My doctor recommended that book for me after I slipped a comment about my mom...and it was the best book I could have read.

    Forgiveness is all about you, not the person you are forgiving..it's such a wonderful choice to make..


    Glad you got to that point, OP :flowerforyou:
  • samntha14
    samntha14 Posts: 2,084 Member
    great message, and great job overcoming.
  • jkandktmom
    jkandktmom Posts: 1,010 Member
    Glad I saw this I will be pruchasing the book in the very near future!!
  • NeuroticVirgo
    NeuroticVirgo Posts: 3,671 Member
    good for you.
  • sarahharmintx
    sarahharmintx Posts: 868 Member
    Im so sorry to hear about your mom but I think its great you were able to get some support and understand through the book. Stay strong!
  • janalayn
    janalayn Posts: 510 Member
    I totally get where you are coming from. As a teenager I was 5'8" and wearing a size 7 or 9. My mother was always on a diet and kept me on one because my friends who were much shorter wore sizes 3 and 5. When I went away to college I gained a ton of weight because I had no idea how to make good choices. I had always been on a diet or sneaking food when my mother wasnt around. It has taken me years to realize that I wasn't fat then but I sure am fat now. My mother still has issues and tries to tell my 20 year old daughter that she is fat at 109 pounds. My mother hates that I am finally finding success with my weight and tries to sabotage me at every turn. Take care of yourself and don't let anyone else define you.
  • SalishSea
    SalishSea Posts: 373 Member
    I have the most wonderful mom in the world. The other members of my family - not so much. I'm sorry for those of you who had toxic parents. That would be a terrible cross to bear for life. I'm glad that you are finding resolution and understanding. I would not be a forgiver.
  • Nightdust
    Nightdust Posts: 171 Member
    My mom never did this but I know she does worry that I will gain my weight back. I know she's proud of me and would never say anything truly hurtful but sometimes she will say, you better be careful or you'll gain the weight back. I can't fathom what it would be like to grow up with your mother. I probably would have told her to go ef herself lol.
  • Dragonnade
    Dragonnade Posts: 218 Member
    My mother is the only person to have ever called me fat. We fell out for other reasons and now I don't value her opinion on anything other than cold, economic fact.

    Other favourites of hers include asking if I'm a lesbian if I haven't informed her that I'm dating recently. She managed to ask if my current bf was gay before considering that maybe if I was spending that much time with a chap we might be dating. And then having found I wasn't the spinster daughter she so feared, told me I should call her more frequently now I have things to say that she can gossip about.

    I told her she could call me if she wanted the gossip that badly. My mother's corrosive. My dad is brilliant, doesn't judge, is totally accepting and supportive and one of the nicest, most loyal people I know. Go figure!
  • Wonderwoman2677
    Wonderwoman2677 Posts: 428 Member
    I guess I need to read that book too. I'm so glad that you found it and have gotten to a better place in your life.
  • Katanthus
    Katanthus Posts: 346 Member

    My dad is brilliant, doesn't judge, is totally accepting and supportive and one of the nicest, most loyal people I know. Go figure!

    Actually, my step-dad is the same way.. my favorite person in the world... who IS and always will be dad to me. Unfortunately, my sister is a carbon copy of my mother, and causes so much drama, I am glad there is an ocean between us.
  • jazzedorange
    jazzedorange Posts: 184 Member
    You are a very strong person. Knowing that it is not your fault is a very wonderful thing! Take it from me that wasn't the the greatest of households when I was a kid. Unfortunately I did not get help with my problems. My little sister and I grew closer and became each others rocks, shoulders, punching bags, mother, partner and motivator. Now that I have 3 awesome kids, I have taught them how to love them selves and communicate about their feelings. We have a very understanding family that loves and protects each other no matter what the day brings.

    No child or adult should ever go through abuse. This goes for ALL KINDS of abuse.
  • Katanthus
    Katanthus Posts: 346 Member
    I guess I need to read that book too. I'm so glad that you found it and have gotten to a better place in your life.

    You may find, like me... you end up buying it multiple times..and giving it to people.

    I should buy another copy, or at this rate... maybe the author should send me a free one. lol
  • Katanthus
    Katanthus Posts: 346 Member
    Now that I have 3 awesome kids, I have taught them how to love them selves and communicate about their feelings.

    You children are lucky, you know what unconditional love is.

    My sister is the one with 3 kids, yet is not maternal. I on the other hand am maternal, yet do not have them. I adore children, but never had them.. I kept putting it off, because I did not want to turn into my mother. I am so maternal, I can't hear a baby cry, without my heartstrings being tugged. I am now 48, and pretty much time has run out for having my own, and really can't afford adoption. That is another story.
  • Krizzle4Rizzle
    Krizzle4Rizzle Posts: 2,704 Member
    Wow. I need to read this. Thank you.
  • angie6171
    angie6171 Posts: 18 Member
    Wow! Can't even believe I'm reading this! At my heaviest up until I was 19, I weighed about 125 and wore a size 8. My family would always make comments about my weight. My mom would never keep any junk food in the house as she was deathly afraid of gaining a pound as she has always been all about looks. Well, when I met my husband he could eat whatever he wanted and not gain any weight and I found out quickly I could not. I wanted everything I couldn't have growing up and then became addicted to having sweets after every meal. I packed on the pounds pretty quickly. After I had gained the weight, my mom once told my brother that was embarrassed to be seen with me as she thought everyone was staring at me because I was so big. That hurt a lot at first. But that was then and this is now. I am now losing weight and eating better for me! I have educated myself and still learning, so that I can teach my kids better. I am hoping by going through this journey that I can keep them from making the mistakes I did and that they will be educated enough to make good choices when they are out on their own. Love to you all!
  • LyssaJ1
    LyssaJ1 Posts: 240 Member
    Thank you for posting this.

    My mom never told me I was overweight, just "under tall." Like I could change my height? Sure! With my gothy boots! :tongue:

    Anyway, where I grew up - rural southwest Michigan, all the womenfolk have an odd issue - they're always on a diet and are comparing themselves against either each other, or some mythical, unrealistic "look" they should have/be.

    My father, who is long since passed, used to compare my mum against my sister. How in the heck can anyone do that?! My mum had five children, my sister was a teen. When he started comparing me against my sister, when I was around 10 years old, and she was 14, it was crazy because her build came from my mum's side of the family and I came from his. My sister is 5 feet tall and her average weight (when we were growing up - mainly late teens) was 85 pounds. Me, 115 to 125, at 5'3". Oh how I miss those weights.

    Now, I call back North to talk to my bestest friend and she always ends up talking about her weight. I'm like "If it's winter, you put on weight, if it's summer, you lose weight." It snows there and is cold, for goodness sake!!

    Sorry, big tangent there. Anyway, thanks again for the post - I should probably get the book :smile:
  • BrazenHarpy
    BrazenHarpy Posts: 81 Member
    Sounds like my mom. Except my mom's thing was jiggling my side every time I went in the kitchen to eat something, screaming at me for wearing my "fat pants" and to get on the scale so I could know just how disgusting I had become. But did she teach me healthy eating habits? Psh, no. I had to learn those on my own, several years after moving out of the house :P.
  • SelenityJ
    SelenityJ Posts: 168 Member
    Nothing truly to add just bumping the post so more people can see it and find support, motivation, and perhaps a good book to help deal with issues.

    *much love and hugs to all*

    Selenity
  • Katanthus
    Katanthus Posts: 346 Member
    Thank you for reading my post. Sometimes it helps to know you aren't the only one who is in the boat. If you are going to read the book, I hope it helps. It isn't just for emotional abuse, it is for people who have had to deal with parental abusers of all types.

    You can buy it used from $4

    http://www.amazon.com/Parents-Overcoming-Hurtful-Legacy-Reclaiming/dp/2702852491/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1345668567&sr=8-4&keywords=toxic+parents+overcoming+their+hurtful+legacy+and+reclaiming+your+life+by+susan+forward

    I wish you all the very best.
  • kattp07
    kattp07 Posts: 40 Member
    I feel your pain! I'm 38 years old and still to this day hear rude hurtful comments from my mother.Not only about my weight but how I raise my children and the healthy food I give them!When my kids and I eat healthy food in front of her she reminds me of how gross it is and says,why would you want to eat that,thats disusting!In front of my kids .Then tries to shove candy and pop down ther throats!I give my kids candy somtimes in moderation,but not all day long! She also tries to savotage my weight loss by sending home cookies and cakes with me shoved in the bottom of a bags after i've already said no I don't want it 20 times!My whole life she has said to me (if you were only 20lbs lighter you'd look good)!Now I am 20lbs lighter then I was back then and she can't stand that i'm smaller than her now!I go to my parents house so my kids can see them,but I can never stay long,will it ever end?It's not looking like it!I think I need that book!
  • Thanks for the reminder about this. I had to move back in with my parents for a bit due to financial problems and my parents are both pretty toxic. To make matters worse, last time I lived at home I had a very bad eating disorder - which you think a parent might notice - but mine never did even when it was pretty hard to hide.
    Anyway, I was doing really well until they all went on Weight Watchers. It's been triggering unfortunately, instead of not eating I end up binging and eating all the things I know I shouldn't (and don't even like) because of all the constant food talk.

    I had an account awhile ago and it helped, but I joined back up when I gained everything back and went ten pounds past my high weight. I have no idea how I'm going to manage to stay sane, lose weight, and be healthy but I have to try. :)

    I have that book: it totally helped me in the past, though now things are a little more difficult. (I was totally one of those people much happier without my parents in my life on a daily or weekly basis.)
  • Katanthus
    Katanthus Posts: 346 Member

    I have that book: it totally helped me in the past, though now things are a little more difficult. (I was totally one of those people much happier without my parents in my life on a daily or weekly basis.)

    Long story, but my sister caused so much drama and upset, that as usual, my mother blindly will gang up with her to attack me. They were screaming at me on the phone, and I said in a very calm voice "I am not putting up with this, I will speak to you when you can have an adult conversation". That was back in February of 2011. That was the third time, I had attempted to mend bridges, but it is far too toxic for my mental health. I miss my (step)- dad dearly, but the mother always answers the phone, and is like a guard dog. I just can't open the door to that toxicity any longer.
  • dad106
    dad106 Posts: 4,868 Member
    My father always told me I was fat... but I didn't consider it abuse of any sort because I was fat! 180 pounds at 5'9.. I was a blimp, who needed to lose weight but never wanted to.. and now that I have, he can't shut up about how good I look. I like to say that I proved him wrong.

    My father also likes to tell me that I'm worthless and will never find a job because I never learned how to do anything in college. I should have gone for engineering or something math based because then at least I would have learned how to do something, and I wouldn't be so stupid... and of course that one stings, but until I can move out, I just tell him that his role is to sit there, pay the bills and be quiet... and it seems that after a year of me telling him that, he's accepted that fact and leaves me alone.
  • Katanthus
    Katanthus Posts: 346 Member
    For those of you interested, I found a pdf copy of the book for download:


    http://www.pdfbook.co.ke/download.php

    Let me know what you think.

    Kat
  • My one-time very slim, very attractive, size 8 (UK) mother always called me fat, said I only had attractive friends to make me feel better about myself and taking me shopping for clothes that were bigger than hers was embarrassing. This always struck me as being odd, seeing as though she fed me and bought the food I ate until I was old enough to fend for myself. To me, this is control, manipulation and emotional abuse at the very least.

    Now, I wouldn't wish ill on anybody, but the day she woke up a Size 18/20 and asked if I had some clothes she could borrow, gave me more pleasure than you could imagine. She has not mentioned my weight since then. However, the control and manipulation is still there, because she WILL NOT acknowledge that I am trying to do something about my weight, and still insists on giving me huge portions of meals that she only bothers to cook when we go over. She also controls meals out by refusing to let me pay for any and causing a scene when I try to put my foot down, thereby choosing herself where we eat.

    She is a nightmare.
  • Sidesteal
    Sidesteal Posts: 5,510 Member
    I hope that other parents find this message. I will occasionally see posts from parents that say things like "My 8 year old is fat, I made her an MFP account" followed by a picture of a very normal looking kid.

    I'm sorry you have been abused like this.
  • auroranflash
    auroranflash Posts: 3,569 Member
    Basically, all I wanted to say, was.. if there are any young people out there, that have been told you are "fat".... get real support, from TRUSTED people... the school nurse, your family doctor or nurse, a family member who believes in you, a teacher or school counselor. I wish you all the best, be yourself... have fun, and remember... there is always one person out there who believes in you. It WILL get better.

    Believe in yourself, in the end you're the only one who can do anything for you... And strut like hell when you've stood up for yourself. You're a boss.
  • Yep! My dad couldn't for the life of him stop telling me how beautiful I was and I used to hate it but then.... I grew up and my mother (who lives off of yoghurt, coffee and cigarettes and was a lifeguard most of her life) starts dropping things in like 'DO you think its the pill Kelly?' Ummmm what's the pill mum? 'Oh you know, this extra weight'. Lovely. And.... even at the ripe age of 25 I flew out to NZ to see her and I cooked for HER, she had the audacity to serve me up the smallest portion you have ever seen. Hmmpf.
  • Thank You for reminding me how blessed I am to have supportive parents! Sometimes I forget and don't appreciate them like I should.