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  • nataliexxxx
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    When I started this I was just into the obese catagory (I'm now a normal weight) and I didnt feel obese or think I was obese or notice how big I was getting and I guess neither do other people who are obese. What I dont understand is how people who are so heavy that they cant walk do not lose weight, I dont understand why the people who feed them dont refuse to give them a lot of junk food!
  • josyjozy
    josyjozy Posts: 117 Member
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    As a nurse myself, I can tell you how I personally "let" myself become obese.
    First, it was happiness. You first find that special someone, you are in love, you are happy, you eat and enjoy each other's company. I am not blaming my husband, but he enjoyed baking and I loved eating it.

    Then, it was depression. I just did not care at all about my weight. I had other more serious issues going on and food was my comfort.

    From a spouse's point of view, pain can be a culprit. Chronic pain leads to depression. Depending on the way you were raised and previous environmental influences, food is a common way to suppress all the feelings of "hurt."

    I try to focus about the why it happened. I try to help my patients focus on the how to fix it. It's so much easier now that I actually care myself. Even those struggling with weight loss, when they come in I find something encouraging to say. A lot of times they don't loose weight, but they don't gain either. We turn that into a victory. Focus on the now, not the then.

    As a student, always be listening and observing and not judging.
  • abigailmariecs
    abigailmariecs Posts: 192 Member
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    I am not obese, morbidly obese, or even over weight. I just need to tone up and maybe lose a couple lbs. However, I can see how it happens. How people "let" themselves get that way. It isn't the same reason for everyone though. Here are some of the reasons I have noticed over time by knowing people that are obese.

    1. Lifestyle: They grew up eating food, and lots of it. It doesn't even have to be "junk" food, they just consume way too many calories because that is what they have always done. I had a couple of friends like this. I could easily be this person too, but was blessed with a decent metabolism and now I just know better.

    2. Depression: Some people use food to fill a void and to make themselves feel better. They also quit caring about their appearance, they think they aren't worth it.... so why put in the effort to exercise and work off what they are eating.

    3. The weight came on for various reasons and it's just too hard to get it back off: Be it pregnancy, something medical came up (surgery, sickness) that made them gain weight. Again, its too hard to get it off so that individual just accepts who they are now and moves on with life.

    I don't think anyone "lets" themselves get like that. I think that a lot of people grow up not understanding the importance of eating right and staying fit. Then they wake up one morning and think, where the heck did all this come from?

    Like I said I don't know from personal experience but I could easily fit into the first 2 categories, and I know at least 1 person that fits into each.

    The first two explanations really spoke to me. My brother has reciently started to lose weight after weighing in at 399 lbs. My brother who has always been overweight and this was not helped with the way we grew up. Living on a hobby farm still means that there are not enough hours in the day to get everything done. Durring the spring, summer and fall dinner was often at 9pm or later and it was a huge meal (not bad, junk but large meals). In the winter it was the same size meals but often they were around 8pm. We would all gain weight durring the winter and it would come back off by mid to late spring. Most of us were still overweight but it was an acceptable 10-15 lbs. When I moved out I was lucky to have moved in with someone who grew up aware of the food they put in their body and while I still ended up on the obese side it could have been much worse since I no longer had the physical work that is required to run a farm. My brother was not so lucky. His wife is an amazing woman, but, lets not beat around the bush, she LOVES food and LOVES to feed him.

    A year and a half ago my brother was fired from a job, his wife makes good money and he did not need to get out there and get a job immediatly. That being said he sat at home, blamed the company for being fired, and fed his depression. In 18 months time he balloned from 250 to 399. It took his wife getting pregnant (not his shock at the weight) to decide to start losing weight.

    He is now 4 months in and has lost 21 lbs. He is just starting to really diet. His first and only step to date is not having seconds, one plate full is all he allows himself. Tomorrow he starts portioning food for the first time. We call each other weekly and report our individual loss and give encouragement/lectures depending on the weight loss. Right now he gives me a hard time because I have only lost 18.7 lbs. I am more than okay with how this works because 1) he has more to lose 2) he is my brother and if he was not giving me a hard time I would wonder who was on the phone.

    We work together on the weight loss and often call each other when we need a little extra support and encouragement. The conversations we have where I am talking him out of seconds and to continue with his progress have inspired me to stay on this long road of weight loss.
  • mabug01
    mabug01 Posts: 1,273 Member
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    Food is my happy place and I go there often. I don't know any other happy place.
    When I look in the mirror, I don't really see my fat.
    That is how I "let" myself get overweight.
  • jenswan70
    jenswan70 Posts: 40 Member
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    For me, Heavy felt better. I was a chubby kid who suddenly started losing weight in high school. I went from a size 14 to a 0 for no apparent reason. Doctors ran every test possible and couldn't find a reason. It took years for me to feel good again. I associate being overweight with feeling good. Everytime I lost any weight, I would increase food intake so I wouldn't lose more weight.
  • Newf77
    Newf77 Posts: 802 Member
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    For me personally, I used food as a coping mechanism the way others use drugs or alcohol. So although it wasn't a conscious thought, I chose food addiction over drug or alcohol addiction as a means of dealing with depression. As a child I was taught often about the dangers of drugs and alcohol, but there was really very little regarding the dangers of overeating. The extent of their education of nutrition was teaching us the 4 food groups.


    In my opinion, food addiction is so much more difficult to deal with than the others. Please do not think that I am saying dealing with alcohol or drug addiction is easy. They do not take alcoholics and say "please just drink a little bit 3 to 4 times a day", they say to avoid it altogether. That is impossible option when dealing with food addiction. Of course, a person can identify and avoid foods they are especially prone to overeat, but that does not address the overall problem. Overcoming food addiction can be done, but it is a process of redefining ones relationship with food.

    Winner; Winner give this man a chicken dinner.

    For me it is also society has set us up to believe that there are perscribed times we have to eat meals; when we were a society that was tending the fields; hunting and gathering we needed that structuer. In todays society where we are driving the miles, sitting at desks getting our foods from a store we need to listen more to our bodies and figure out what type of meal plan is right for you personally.
  • mabug01
    mabug01 Posts: 1,273 Member
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    All your stories broke my heart.

    Thank you for your answers; I truly appreciate everyone's help.

    Good luck with weight loss, and I hope you all are able to reach a point in life when you are truly happy with yourselves. I am not there yet myself, but I am working on it! :)

    A bit patronizing.
  • PamMedford
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    I am going to answer this because I am a nurse and morbidly obese. There are a lot of reasons why I am obese. I am an emotional eater, I love food and didn't like to exercise and I have never made myself my priority. As you will quickly learn, when you get home from work you will be drained... Somedays emotionally as well as physically. I cam say truthfully, "I let myself go." As you go through your clinicals and begin to practice you will see that there are a lot of conditions that can effect weight. Get to know your patients and take care of yourself. You will be a better nurse because of it. Best wishes!
  • michellekicks
    michellekicks Posts: 3,624 Member
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    For me, I've always been a foodie. Went to Culinary School. Worked with food, wrote a cookbook.. Lived my life all about food.

    Then I had a tragic accident that robbed me of 75% of my sight, which lead to depression and more weight gain. It is going to be a long walk back to good health.

    I am turning my food addiction into an addiction of making all my favorite things into super healthy meals.

    That is an awesome goal... you will overcome all that seeks to hold you back with that attitude. Good job!
  • lkcuts
    lkcuts Posts: 224
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    I love how skinny people, people that have been thin their whole life speculate on here. Why am I fat (335 lbs)s? I like food and I don't like to exercise. I am I lazy? Do I eat, 2 sausage biscuits and 3 hash browns for breakfast, 3 burgers for lunch, 2 large pizza's for dinner and guzzle it all down with soda? Nope. I work in recreation so I am fairly active at work, my house is clean albeit cluttered, and I enjoy the outdoors. I do eat large portions, as in 12 oz steaks or 12 oz chicken breasts with a large scoop of a starch, veggies, a side salad (with a little dressing, I hate salads drowned in dressing!) and wash it down with a water or unsweet tea (can't stand sweet tea). A smoothie, a whole sandwich, chips, and a cookie at lunch. Bowl of "healthy"cereal for breakfast. Do I know how to eat healthy? Yep. Been fat my whole life, since I was born. I know how to diet, started when I was 8. I loathe it! I hate the fact that I can't eat like other people and not exercise but I gain weight.

    My point is, when people that have high metabolisms (or whatever it is that keeps you thinner (size 12 and under and what ever the equivalent is for guys) without much effort), look at fat people (250 lbs +) they are like "ugh, how do they do that to themselves". Well some of us are just being normal, but our bodies don't metabolize like yours do. My thyroid's been tested, I've been tested for strange diseases that are making me fat and nothing. If I want to lose weight I have to eat under 1.500 calories a day and exercise regularly, and I have to do it for the rest of my life. Well that sounds like a crappy deal to me. Am I going to do it? Yes, because unfortunately obesity causes other health risks (so does eating poorly even if you are rail thin), I like to travel, I haven't been able to go on a roller coaster for years (I love roller coasters), and I want to get pregnant.

    So please don't be offended when I give you a dirty look while your shoveling in carbs and sitting on the coach watching the Kardashians not gaining an ounce! Could this anger possibly come from being tormented my whole life for being fat? Yep. Did I get made fun of daily all throughout school 1st grade to twelfth? Yep. Do I get told at least hourly how horrible it is to be a fat person by society? Yep. I think you can understand why this may offend and upset me. But ya know what, life isn't fair so I'll just suck it up and move on.
    I'm with ya..I want to say to those skinny people that make comments bout being lazy etc, "Put down that milk shake you get to have every day,never eat it again,get up every day at 5;30 and work out like crazy for an hour ..having to be constantly aware of what you eat, when you eat it and how much... for the rest of your life" Hummm didn't think so. So ThAT in itself shows whos lazy. So they got lucky don't rub it in..
  • ShonniPooh
    ShonniPooh Posts: 4 Member
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    Food can become your best friend, especially the bad food (ice cream, cookies, candy, etc.) I know because it was my best friend for such a long time. People get depressed and discouraged about situations such as a job loss, loneliness, death of a love one, relationship issues, etc. Sometimes it is so much easier not to care and to wallow in self pity! Food becomes the one thing that seems to bring you joy, happiness, and sadness all at the same time!! I say that because most times after we eat all the junk, we are mad at ourselves for doing so. Nobody wants to be fat or obese! There is almost always some underlying issue going on in that person's life you haven't a clue about. It is so hard to not indulge especially when you feel so helpless and hopeless about whatever! It is a happy place for MANY people.
  • cramernh
    cramernh Posts: 3,335 Member
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    I was an undiagnosed hyperinsulinemic based on extensive review of my entire medical history. As a child, these dark patches developed on my neck, my inner thighs, my under-arm areas. I was a very active kid growing up... we were always outside, playing hard. We had almost two acres of land, half of which was a thick forest with a couple of trails. Often it was difficult to get my sister and I to come back inside - we were always playing, roughhousing with our friends, etc. My father was abusive on many levels, as well as my mother.... one of which was "clean your plate"... I remember the stomach pains getting worse and worse from eating all of that food, the full glass of milk, the tons of bread, junk foods in the house, etc..

    As I got older and just about to hit puberty, my weight continued to increase, skin problems, but I still remained active. The dark patches of skin got worse. I was seen by a Registered Dietician who was the most horrible and nasty woman I had ever met. I felt so degraded at age 13 by the words she used: lazy, didnt care, would rather sit on the couch and do nothing. It was SOOOOOOOOO not true at all. If she only knew of the volleyball net we had set up, the number of times we played volleyball, badminton, had a basket ball net set up and was used... We had plenty of kids coming over to play with us for several hours a day.. I was crushed. At 13, my parents divorced, father was arrested for the abuse he caused, but it didnt get better with my mother.

    I saw dermatologist who accused me of being the problem. I saw Pediatricians who said lay off the junk food. Fast forward through high school graduation - at age 18, I was pregnant and declared an extremely high risk patient. I was harassed by the OB about my food intake... I had done my best to make all the necessary food-changes and choices, but my blood pressure was skyrocketing daily. I was preclampsic/toxemic and bed-ridden for the last six months of my pregnancy. I further was bedridden for an additional 3 months after having an emergency C-section. Thos dark patches were black...... very black....

    Age 19, I decided that I was still going to continue with medical school. I went for a big program for medical assistants - a very aggressive course for those that wanted to be exposed to as many medical specialties as possible. The first one on my list was OB: I needed to learn for myself the things that should be done/tested, etc. And my eyes awoken. I was never tested for Diabetes or Insulin Resistance. There is a test called Glucose Tollerance Test (GTT) where you sit at the MD's office for a few hours and you drink this nasty overly sweet-chalky-substance of hell, and you have your blood drawn. I NEVER HAD THE DAMN TEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I broke down and cried... this whole time for the first 19 years of my life, Ive been mentally battered that it was my fault... Age 22, I was formally tested and diagnosed with Hyperinsulinemia, Metabolic Syndrome, Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome, Alopecia, and because the insulin was so bad, I developed Hepatitis. Age 22!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The past 16 years, I have had to do so much research in my conditions because there were not enough specialists in my area of New Hampshire that knew enough about this. I found an Endocrinologist a few years back who I still see today... the only thing she cant diagnose is the 'type' of metabolic disorder - despite my having an extremely healthy thyroid.

    I have managed to drop over 40lbs under her care in one year.... but, its harder for patients like me. Its easier for me to understand the doctors because Ive been working in healthcare for about 17 years now.. and I love my work. I use my clinical background to do aggressive appeals to insurance companies to help get claims paid. Im an advanced medical reimbursement specialist with a background in government-related plans. I spent a good time working for Medicare and now I work for a 300+ physician network in southern New Hampshire and I absolutely love my job.

    Sorry for the length, but wanted to share my story.....

    Not all of us are obese on purpose... I had really bad parents who didnt get me the healthcare I needed, and found MD's/RN's and RD's who were downright jerks...
  • jamesbiz
    jamesbiz Posts: 22 Member
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    If you go by the "overeating" and "calories in calories out" idea, then for you to gain 140 lbs over 11 years only meant eating an extra 120 calories a day over what you're burning. That would be, just eating an apple every single day. So we can say overeating makes us gain weight, but does it really?

    I'd say yes. While it matters to how our body functions internally where the calories come from, from a weight perspective I don't think the body cares where the calories come from. If you eat more than you burn, then the body stores what's left. If you burn more than you eat, then your body taps into its reserves.
    My point was, that it doesn't take very much "overeating" to become obese over the years, if we are going with the calories in calories out.

    As my example shows, JUST an extra apple a day above what ever you feel your zero calorie in calorie out point is, and you'll be 140lbs heavier in a decade. That's not even counting muscle gain, which would happen due to carrying extra weight. So that apple would get you 160 lbs heavier. Again, this is all if " calories in calories out" is true.

    Even a tiny little 25 extra calories surplus a day, would net you 25 lbs of fat.
    In case anyone wants to know my math.. That's 25 calories a day x 365 days x 10 years / 3500 calories = 25 lbs of fat. Or if you really wanna go crazy, 1 extra calorie a day, will gain you 1 lb of fat.
    So how are we to believe that overeating is to blame, if even the equivalent of eating 3 grapes a days worth of extra calories, would get you 25 pounds of fat in a decade? Do we really want to believe, that these tiny little numbers will make such a drastic difference? Why aren't people who are eating a a few hundred extra calories a day, not weighing 300-500 lbs?
  • TheFitHooker
    TheFitHooker Posts: 3,358 Member
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    For my height I was considered morbidly obese, how did I let myself get like that? Because in my mind I was just over weight, I didn't think I looked as bad as I did, I was in denial, and honestly I don't think I cared. Why? Because I didn't care about myself, I didn't love myself, I was depressed due to not having much of a life outside my house and just didn't care. Food is what made me happy, Food is what I leaned on when I was sad or angry, food was also my best friend and I was in control of what went into my mouth.
  • rboudiab
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    I was never obese, or Over weight, i was on my way there and I stopped myself right there and started dieting and working out. I think that people never wanna get fat, but food is an emotional factor too, some people undergo stress and turn to food to comfort them, mine was chocolate! :)) Now i'm a proud healthy vegan with 8 more kilos to go! :))
    -Add me guys :)) We'll lose more together! <3
    And nobody is offended this is strictly a scientific question :))
  • AverageAngel
    AverageAngel Posts: 123 Member
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    that's more of a psychology and sociology question. probably for a host of reasons, but question why / how people become so addicted to gambling that they lose all their money, or addicted to meth, alcohol, cigarettes, etc. people tend to do that. it happens.
    yea....
  • ValkyrieFD
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    I just touched on some Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE) that in studies have been tied to weight and health issues into adulthood in my last blog: http://www.fragdolls.com/index.php/blogs/detail/category/valkyrie/diet_dance_to_weight_loss_3_month_update

    I learned about these in my weight-loss program at Kaiser Permenente. I myself have seen my weekly group people go through many an emotional sharing when dealing with some of these issues. While this isn't the basis for everyone, these studies show these impact the majority of people that struggle with weight issues.

    Excerpt from my blog:

    "If you have ever experienced any of the below childhood abuses or household dysfunctions and are struggling with health issues, addressing the psychological impacts may be necessary in order to understand how you may overcome your health struggles. It is important to note that the risk factors for weight and health issues increase the more ACE’s you have been exposed to in your lifetime.

    If you have been exposed to any of the following childhood experiences there may be a deeper, emotional tie to your lifestyle then you realize:

    "Categories of childhood abuse:
    • psychological abuse
    • physical abuse
    • contact sexual abuse

    Categories of exposure to household dysfunction during childhood:
    • exposure to substance abuse
    • mental illness
    • violent treatment of mother or stepmother
    • criminal behavior in the household


    It is imperative that if you have continued health and weight issues that you learn to explore and understand how situations such as these may have impacted your conscious and subconscious health outlook and lifestyle. "
  • juliee274
    juliee274 Posts: 124 Member
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    I think they just don't care and it's disgusting.

    You're a pastry chef. I therefore label you 'part of the problem'. :laugh:

    Seriously, 'they' care, they just gave up for longer than you did to gain your extra 50.

    Now I. Love. You. :flowerforyou:
  • FlaxMilk
    FlaxMilk Posts: 3,452 Member
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    I'm glad you are trying to be an understanding nurse. But you will encounter many patient problems beyond obesity. I'd recommend reading up on how to be compassionate and non-judgmental regardless of the situation. It's very much a practice and one most of us do not become perfect at. So, you also have to apply that non-judgmental compassion to yourself and redirect yourself back to your practice when you observe yourself slipping up. I highly recommend the works of Pema Chodron for phenomenal insights and practice tips on this topic. I never feel so comforted as when I read her work.
  • Onaughmae
    Onaughmae Posts: 873 Member
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    There are many reasons. I don't think anyone makes a real conscious choice to do that...I mean really..who would? There can be medical factors, metabolic disorders, etc that contribute. Most of the time there is a psychological reason. A food addiction is like any other. The person that is an addict is somehow using their drug of choice (in this case, rich comfort foods) to cover some kind of emotional distress. I think you will find that most people that are overweight can tell you more or less why they overeat. Thats one reason I think that "diets" don't work in the long run. You will eventually revert back to your addictive behavior unless you tackle the problem of *why* you are self-medicating with food. You have to work on the "head stuff" just as much as the body or else you will most likely fail in the long run.