Over 200 Club New Year New Body-Part 8
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I'm going to attempt the "shocking your metabolisim" today! And then tomorrow I am back to my diet! Wish me luck!0
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I agree to eating at least some of the exercise calories. I know when I was eating too few calories, I also saw weight gains even when I was exercising daily. When I upped my calories, I started seeing a loss again.
Have a great weekend, everyone! I will try really hard to behave this weekend.0 -
awestfall: -1.2 = 0.51%
bluenote: -1 = 0.23%
madgoth: -1 = 0.40%
meokk 0 -1 = 0.49%
jlb123: -2.4 = 1.12%
Cris20056 -1.6= 0.7%
Solandra: 0
snowflakes: -2.6 = 0.98%
Positively: NO weight loss i gained 2 pounds
MariSama: -2.2 = 0.91%
momma -2.8 = 1.10%
ColoradoGirl - no lookie!
Mstahl -1 = .96%
I had a huge drop last weekend and then went way back up and now down from last week but nowhere near that beautiful 183 I saw Monday morning. It was so pretty! So at the moment I have a liar ticker!
I'll be out of internet range this weekend but don't think I won't be wishing I could check in! Lets hope I get outside and spend lots of time stomping up and down the hills and burning up lots and lots of calories!0 -
down two pounds today...yippie.
CW: 206.5
gotta keep on going down!0 -
Pos -- take my advice for what it's worth (I dunno). I think you should start eating some of your exercise calories. Because eating LESS certainly isn't an option and what you're doing isn't working. So why not slowly increase them (add about 50 calories every few days) until you're eating 25% of them and give that a few weeks. If in 3-4 weeks, you're still not seeing results, increase them slowly again to 50% and see how that works for a few weeks, etc. At some point you'll find what makes your body comfortable to start dropping fat again.
Thanks girl
I will eat a fatty meal tomorrow and starting sunday i will gradually add calories..if i exercise i will eat half my ex. calories...i hope this works...or am i doing too much at one time...i don't want to mess up.. should i just eat a fatty meal...wait a couple days and then start increasing my calories slowly?
Sorry if i am annoying the mess out of you but i am tried of seeing NO loss...
Thanks so much for all your help. I really, really, really, did i mention, really do appreciate all you have done.:flowerforyou:0 -
I'm going to attempt the "shocking your metabolisim" today! And then tomorrow I am back to my diet! Wish me luck!
Jess, enjoy every bit of your meal...lol
Have a nice weekend!!
it's suppose to be nice this weekend..temp. are going to be around the 50 range...my son hasn't seen the park in quite a while...we ( the family) might spend the day at the park..0 -
Pos -- take my advice for what it's worth (I dunno). I think you should start eating some of your exercise calories. Because eating LESS certainly isn't an option and what you're doing isn't working. So why not slowly increase them (add about 50 calories every few days) until you're eating 25% of them and give that a few weeks. If in 3-4 weeks, you're still not seeing results, increase them slowly again to 50% and see how that works for a few weeks, etc. At some point you'll find what makes your body comfortable to start dropping fat again.
Thanks girl
I will eat a fatty meal tomorrow and starting sunday i will gradually add calories..if i exercise i will eat half my ex. calories...i hope this works...or am i doing too much at one time...i don't want to mess up.. should i just eat a fatty meal...wait a couple days and then start increasing my calories slowly?
Sorry if i am annoying the mess out of you but i am tried of seeing NO loss...
Thanks so much for all your help. I really, really, really, did i mention, really do appreciate all you have done.:flowerforyou:
I'd say go ahead and eat your fatty meal and then start adding in some of your exercise calories slowly like JLB said. Maybe start with 50 or 100. I'm going to enjoy the heck out of my fatty meal tonight! Roommately bonding time! But I did workout this morning and I might try and do the 30 day shred tonight. Who knows. We will see! We will both see that scale starting to move. I just know it. Try taking your measurements and see if you lose inches before you lose pounds. That happens to me. Just my little 2 cents.0 -
pos_me - I had the exact problem, and I started increasing my calories until I got to all of my alloted cals plus half of my exercise cals. It took my body about 3 full weeks to adjust, but once it did, I stared losing steadily again.
Somehow we lost Heather and cds during the pastes, so I put them in.
awestfall: -1.2 = 0.51%
bluenote: -1 = 0.23%
madgoth: -1 = 0.40%
meokk 0 -1 = 0.49%
jlb123: -2.4 = 1.12%
Cris20056 -1.6= 0.7%
Solandra: 0
snowflakes: -2.6 = 0.98%
Positively: NO weight loss i gained 2 pounds
MariSama: -2.2 = 0.91%
momma -2.8 = 1.10%
ColoradoGirl - no lookie!
Mstahl -1 = .96%
hajohnson: 0
cds2327: -2 = .95%0 -
Well, it finally happened. The kids at school are noticing my weight loss. :bigsmile:
Today a fourth grader kept looking at me. I asked her what was wrong. She said, "You look different." I said, "I do? How?" She said, "I dunno....you look smaller." I felt great! Then a sixth grader complimented me in the next class and said I look "skinny". LOL Well, 'skinny' was not the exact descriptor for ME, but I knew what she meant! :laugh: It lifted my spirits - I've been sort of down this week.
check in:
cals: OK
water: OK
exercise: 40 bike + 10 fast bike + arms
proud: see above! :happy:0 -
Well, it finally happened. The kids at school are noticing my weight loss. :bigsmile:
Today a fourth grader kept looking at me. I asked her what was wrong. She said, "You look different." I said, "I do? How?" She said, "I dunno....you look smaller." I felt great! Then a sixth grader complimented me in the next class and said I look "skinny". LOL Well, 'skinny' was not the exact descriptor for ME, but I knew what she meant! :laugh: It lifted my spirits - I've been sort of down this week.
That's so awesome!!!
Well, my check in for today is pitiful
Calories: I was at 700 and then there was Mexican food. And I ate ALL of it. I'm talking stuffed poblano, cheese enchilada, beans, rice, and guacamole. :noway: I didn't know I could fit that much in my stomach anymore. :laugh:
Exercise: nada except cleaning. Which I need to get back to doing.
Water: I'm around 80oz for now
Proud: Umm...
Proud I planned a splurge and had a splurge and it's not a big deal. That's called lifestyle change, not diet. 
In all reality though, I'm pretty sure I ate under my maintenance calories even with the humongous amount of Mexican food. Because I'd be supremely impressed if my dinner was really over 1600 calories. It was probably along the lines of 1000-1200 so I'm actually still in the weight loss zone. Realizations like that make me wonder how in the world I got out of control enough to ever weigh as much as I did. :huh:
My best friend is coming down for a visit next weekend! I'm so excited. I've lost 40 pounds since the last time she saw me at the beginning of November. I'm a smaller size than I've pretty much ever been since we've been friends (for 10 years). I told her my size 16s were getting big on me (I own 2 pairs and I can now get out of both of them without unbuttoning them -- I haven't had the gumption to try any 14s yet other than my skirts which do fit). She said "OMG -- you're only a size bigger than me now -- that's INSANE!" She always told me she never thought of me as a big fat fatty (did I mention she's my *best* friend? :laugh:) and she would always use words like "solid" to describe me saying she thought I was more muscular than most people and that she never ever would be able to guess how much I weighed. I still weigh a good 30-40 pounds more than her and she's 3-4" taller than me, so if we're only a size apart, that really is kind of insane. Makes me think my 150 goal may actually be too low, but I'll adjust it later if I need to. Hard to guess a realistic goal when you don't know your body fat percentage and you've never been smaller than you are now. 0 -
I'm right there with you JLB. I enjoyed the heck out of my Mexican food tonight! It was FANTASTIC! LOL I have no idea where my calories are because there is no nutrition for Cantina laredo. I did share dinner with my roommate so hopefully it's not THAT bad but I will check in for the rest
Water-14 glasses
Exercise-Biggest Lower Last Chance Workout Upper and Lower Body Sculpt
Proud-My roommate asked me if I bought new jeans because I looked skinner in them. Told her no they just fit better! YAY!! We may be roommates but we hardly ever see each other.
That's so great JLB That you get to see your best friend. I'm sure she will be shocked when she sees you! Its funny how they can be so kind to you when you are bigger. That's what friends are for. My best friend look back at pictures of us and ask why we let each other get so fat. We laugh about it now. I've always been bigger then her as well. Before you know it you will be in those size 14's! Congrats! :drinker:
Bluenote-It's always great to hear from other people that you look smaller. Especially kids. They usually aren't so kind! Great job!0 -
awestfall: -1.2 = 0.51%
bluenote: -1 = 0.23%
madgoth: -1 = 0.40%
meokk 0 -1 = 0.49%
jlb123: -2.4 = 1.12%
Cris20056 -1.6= 0.7%
Solandra: 0
snowflakes: -2.6 = 0.98%
Positively: NO weight loss i gained 2 pounds
MariSama: -2.2 = 0.91%
momma -2.8 = 1.10%
ColoradoGirl - no lookie!
Mstahl -1 = .96%
hajohnson: 0
cds2327: -2 = .95%
Tiger12gal: -1.2 = .60%
Hey everyone! I kinda missed this whole week with posts.. :ohwell: It has been crazy at home. William turned 5 on Wednesday! :happy: Im not sure when he got so big.. it kinda makes me sad. I can still remember when I got him when he was 2.5. His party is this Sunday! Im hoping the majority of his cake will be gone at the party.. the less I bring home.. the less I will eat! I have been having sinus problems which means I am doped up and still getting no sleep, I finally feel better this evening so I hope it goes away soon.
I am really surprised that I have lost this week. My water intake has really been crappy. I have done ok on my calorie intake but still no exercise. I totally forgot about the sit-up challenge.. I guess I will start that this Monday.
The wedding stuff is about done. We have everything to make the table decorations.. which me and the girls in my office will be doing that this coming week. The bouquets are getting put together. Food and Cake is ordered. Im taking my boys to get fitted for the tux tomorrow. Pictures are set up.. and I will be doing bridal pics soon if the weather allows us to. The only thing that is not completely figured out is the music... I am either getting an old friend from high school to do it or his uncle is going to do it...
I hope everyone had a wonderful week. Im sorry I missed a whole weeks worth of posts but I promise I will try to keep up next week!0 -
check in for today
calories - a little under, eating most of my exercise cals
exercise - 30 day shred
water - 12 - I'm getting used to being hydrated now.
proud that I ate dinner early tonight, finished by 7pm0 -
Holy freakin' moly -- Am I the biggest loser this week? From plateau to biggest loser? :bigsmile:
I'll think of a brilliant challenge (ha) and post tomorrow. I'm dead tired and have a photoshoot at 7am (yeah, that's 6 hours from now that I have to be on location 30 minutes away... :grumble:).0 -
hi girls- so I've been in bed since Friday...I still feel awful. My thorat hurts so bad I havent eaten much. Not in a good way! I am starving but it hurts so much to swallow
So congrats to JLB our biggest loser and I hope everyone is having a great weekend.
Cris0 -
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I went to buy new running shoes and Old Navy was next door so I went to browse the clearance racks for pants that fit. I found nothing on clearance, but decided to try on a couple pairs of pants. I have 2 pairs of 16s that I've been wearing that have gotten pretty big on me so I wanted to try on a 14 & I also took a 12 into the fitting room just for.. um.. fun (torture?).
14s fit -- I almost bought them until I realized they were $30 and I'd be too small for them in a couple months. So, I dared to try on the 12s. Now, keep in mind that 6 months ago, I couldn't get my fat butt into the pair of size 20 pants I took into the dressing room (yes -- total emotional breakdown in the fitting room that day). Like, they were not even CLOSE to fitting. I couldn't even come close to buttoning them or even getting them all the way up over my hips. It was *bad.*
Today, for the first time in my life at this height, I pulled on a pair of size 12s. I got them over my thighs, then over my hips, then I zipped them... THEN I BUTTONED THEM! :noway: Don't get me wrong, they were absolutely grotesque and I in no way would claim to be a size 12, I'm still happily claiming size 14/16 right now, but I could not believe that I got them on at all. Seriously. I'm still in shock!
They were so tight that this picture is nearly disturbing, I'm warning you:
But still -- SIZE FREAKING 12!!!0 -
hi girls- so I've been in bed since Friday...I still feel awful. My thorat hurts so bad I havent eaten much. Not in a good way! I am starving but it hurts so much to swallow
So congrats to JLB our biggest loser and I hope everyone is having a great weekend.
Cris
Hope you get to feeling better girl! Rest up!0 -
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I went to buy new running shoes and Old Navy was next door so I went to browse the clearance racks for pants that fit. I found nothing on clearance, but decided to try on a couple pairs of pants. I have 2 pairs of 16s that I've been wearing that have gotten pretty big on me so I wanted to try on a 14 & I also took a 12 into the fitting room just for.. um.. fun (torture?).
14s fit -- I almost bought them until I realized they were $30 and I'd be too small for them in a couple months. So, I dared to try on the 12s. Now, keep in mind that 6 months ago, I couldn't get my fat butt into the pair of size 20 pants I took into the dressing room (yes -- total emotional breakdown in the fitting room that day). Like, they were not even CLOSE to fitting. I couldn't even come close to buttoning them or even getting them all the way up over my hips. It was *bad.*
Today, for the first time in my life at this height, I pulled on a pair of size 12s. I got them over my thighs, then over my hips, then I zipped them... THEN I BUTTONED THEM! :noway: Don't get me wrong, they were absolutely grotesque and I in no way would claim to be a size 12, I'm still happily claiming size 14/16 right now, but I could not believe that I got them on at all. Seriously. I'm still in shock!
They were so tight that this picture is nearly disturbing, I'm warning you:
But still -- SIZE FREAKING 12!!!
That is so awesome!!! Congrats!! You have worked your butt off for that! They will fit in no time!!0 -
cris - I am praying for your recovery. I started with the sore throat and ended up with strep. I hope you don't go that route! :flowerforyou:
Julie, Julie, Julie!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO on those pants! They will be perfect in no time! You have come so far and are such an inspiration to me!!! Way to go! And wow, you have beautiful long hair! LOL (oh I had to say your name three times because I think Julie is such a pretty name!)
I had a very long rehearsal and performance with my 5th graders today. It started at 8am and ended at 4:30pm. Ooofta. NO ONE in their right mind should spend an entire Saturday with that many 11-yr-olds!!! I am exhausted!
check in:
calories: still need protein and carbs. I am always low on those, but always go over sodium so I never know what to eat! Another post suggested eggs and raw almonds. Any other suggestions?
water: way over! LONG, dry day!!!
exercise: I did a LOT of walking at the rehearsal/performance, plus I am about to do 40 on the bike (if my muscles can handle it - I am sore!)
proud: every year we have this concert at the high school, and every year I dread walking to the hub because it is soooo far from where I park and up a billion stairs. I normally have always found little resting points along the way. The first resting point is by the picnic tables. I always sit and catch my breath there. The next stop is after the major stair climb. I stop at the top and act like I am talking on my cell phone just to catch my breath and try to get air! Well.......... today........... I DIDN'T STOP ONCE!!! I just kept climbing and walking, and I didn't really realize it until I got to the picnic benches and this weird panic came over me. I passed them by and realized, WOW, I don't need to sit. Then after the billion stairs I kept going to the hub! Now, I was a little winded when I got to the hub, but NOTHING LIKE MY CORONARY I've had the last nine years I've walked that path! I am so excited!!!0 -
Cris -- I hope you feel better soon! Being sick is the pits.
Bluenote -- you're right, noone should spend that much time with that many kids! :laugh: I spent 7am-1pm with them today and even that was way way way too long (especially on 4 hours of sleep... on that note, I just woke up from a 4 hour "nap" ready to go... unfortunately it's 1am :laugh:). I am SO EXCITED for you that you were able to walk so far and up so many stairs! That's amazing! You have come so far and I'm so proud of you.
I *think* I've found the source of my hives. I bought a new blanket a little over a month ago. I never washed it, just put it on the bed. I pulled it off the bed and took it to the couch for my nap and woke up with hives. So, it's either something on the blanket or it's the heat created by the blanket triggering them but the cause is actually different. I will wash the blanket & we'll find out, I guess. I'm glad because I had thought it was the skin firming lotion I started using 2 weeks ago. I stopped using it a couple days ago and didn't get any hives last night. But I didn't use it today and got them today so looks like it's unrelated.
03.06.10
Calories: 1382
Exercise: Way too tired. I worked outside with kids all morning (pretty physical job) and walked around stores & went to 3 stores in a strip mall without driving around and finding different parking spaces like I TOTALLY would've done before.
Water: pitiful. Though I did discover I like plain carbonated water and I think one day I'll be able to replace like 90% of my soda with it!
Proud: Well, squeezing (yes, squeezing) myself into size 12s. 12 is an insane size. Best friend is a size 12 and I would never ever consider her fat. I'm only 1 size bigger, so, can I really continue to consider myself so ridiculously fat? I hope my brain catches up with my body one day.0 -
Good morning all!
So thank you so much for the well wishes! I feel 100 times better this morning. Im not back to 100% but conisdering how I was feeling before this is a VAST improvement, I can swallow without pain and thus I am eating a hearty yet healthy breakfast this morning :happy: I think the 15 hours or so I slept yesterday really helped:laugh:
Jlb- Thats so exciting about the size 12s! I can 'squeeze' into my 16s right now and Im excited about that so trust me I know how happy you are that those 12s are in your near future!! Super happy for you, you work so hard you deserve it! (although I think you should by a size 10 the rate your going!!:drinker: )
Bluenote- I loveyour posts because you always have some little difference that this lifestyle change has made to your life. They may seem 'little' at least but if you have to live with them they are HUGE. First the seatbealt, then the courthouse seat, now the dreaded walk!!! CONGRATS!!! I am yet again so proud of you! I cant wait to hear your next achievement! PS- I am also known for stopping on top of long stairs to "arhem" talk on the phone...sheesh a girls gotta catch her breath somehow!!!
Have a good weekend all,
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Cris-Glad to heary ou are feeling better!
Bluenote-Way to go on that walk without havign to stopto take a break. It feels good don't it!?
On a happy note for me...I don't want to jinx it but I think I finally let go of the water weight or the shocking my metabolisim worked or something..I'm 5 pounds lighter on my Mom's scale this morning then I was yesterday. We will find out what the truth is tomorrow morning when I weigh in at work (which is normally where I weigh myself). It is a different scale but it's a 5 pound difference from yesterday. Not sure how that's possible but keep your fingers crossed ladies! Hope everyone has a great Sunday!0 -
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Jess - My fingers are crossed for you! Keep the faith!
Cris, I am finding the little things boost me big time. Mainly because the little things that we all take for granted are things I haven't been able to do for years! For instance, I can't WAIT until I can get on the floor and get back up. When I finally do this I will be beside myself with happiness and tears! I want SO BADLY to sit on the floor with my students and my cats. I know I will get there someday! I feel blessed to be a part of this group, even though I am twice the weight of most here. When I joined I thought "over 200" meant we all had over 200 to lose! LOL :laugh: yeah, sometimes I'm clueless like that. Sometimes I get down when I see my whole picture, but then a little epiphany will happen (God-sent, I am sure!), and I'll realize how far I've come, and then I get on here to share it with my dearest weight loss friends, because I know we are all rooting for each other! What a blessing to know you all! 0 -
bluenote- I am so glad that you 'mistakenly' joined the group:laugh: I am sure that sitting on the floor is in your near future, and please keep us updated on all your new found abilities! It warms my heart to hear your excitement
jess- yay on the weightloss, sounds like you were retaining water:drinker:
coloradogirl- I dont think the challenge has been posted yet
here is my check in for today 3/7/10:
calories- under by 100+
water- i think so, still working on getting some in
sodium- 2025
excercise- took wallpaper down (i didnt sweat but it was a pain in the *kitten*) and about to do my situps that I didnt do yesterday
proud- that I didnt eat badly while I was sick and as soon as I felt better I was still right on track
good night girls!
Cris0 -
No, I'm just clueless as to what to challenge.did I miss this weeks challenge?
Okay. So, I can feel myself slacking, especially on 2 things. These are very unoriginal challenges, but they're also very important.
This week I challenge us to all get *at least* 45 minutes of cardio *every day.*
I also challenge us to all drink at least 80 ounces of water every day.
Sorry they're unoriginal, but I've really been letting myself slip with the exercise over the last week. I've gotten maybe 2 hours in when normally I would've gotten at least twice that.
So, happy cardio everyone!0 -
jlb - LOVE the challenges! I have major issues getting in my water and I only walked last week - no elliptical for the first time this year so I obviously needed this kick in the butt!!!
I ordered a swimsuit from Lands End - size 14 (clearence). I got it Friday but haven't tried it on yet. It doesn't really match - the top is a tank that's grey with a yellow stripe (live strong style) and the bottom is a yellow skirt but it's a different yellow ($9 each can't really complain!) I figure since I'm planning on wearing it to swim laps at 6 am the mis-matched yellows shouldn't be a big deal :laugh: I can get a free two week membership to the college wellness center, so I'm planning on finding out if it will work to do the following routine a couple days a week. 45 mintues on the elliptical machine, then stretching and doing crunches/ push-ups and then driving about 15 minutes to the rec center and changing into a suit to swim for how ever long I can (I figure I'll walk laps when I'm too tired to swim) - then shower and dress and head into the office. I'm also going to check out morning classes because if I fork out the membership money I'll want to max out my investment!
This weekend we were at my parents farm with lots of friends. My other cooking friends couldn't come so I was the main cook except for Saturday breakfast...
I
Ate
WAY
too
much.
Like THOUSANDS OF CALORIES too much. What is happening to me! I did follow my rule that every bite count and I didn't do any mindless eating but OMG did I eat! (and drink). I didn't only SHOCK my system I SHOCKED my husband, my friends... :laugh: LOL - everyone was so sweet about my losing weight :flowerforyou: and I'm saying "Thaunch ou" through a mouth full of mint chocolate chip cookie!!!!:embarassed:
I shall do better. It's going to slow down my weight loss so I am not allowed to whine so much about not losing much this week or next but I will let myself think I gained more than two pounds because I couldn't have been more than 7000 calories over the last few days and I did log most of what I ate (from memory tonight) - I'm sure I'll keep adding things to the log as they come to me
Julie - size 12? AND you can run 5K. Eff YEAH!0 -
Thanks for the challenge, jlb. I need that kick right now with exercise. Here lately I've been not putting as much energy into it as I had in the past. I still do the 40 mins, but I think I've been slowing down the pedaling! I am glad we are focusing on this. As for water, I rarely drink anything else (well, OK vodka!) so I should ace that part!
check in:
cals: WAY under. Like 1K under. I know I know. I ate a HUGE salad for lunch and, honestly, I can't fit much else in. My stomach is sticking out I am so full!
water: perfect
exercise: 40 mins bike, plus 10 mins hard riding + arms
proud: I put on one of my spring dresses to wear to my singing jobs this morning, and it was too big! It used to go to a few inches above my ankle (I am tall and like to wear longer length dresses), and now it drags on the floor! It looked like a ballroom gown! LOL Another sewing project! :bigsmile:0 -
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mstahl -- I'm right there with you on not being allowed to whine this week. :blushing: I was completely overtaken by my bf's pressure to order Chinese food yesterday. But, we ordered before we ate anything else (and, no the restaurant doesn't open before noon ) and it's almost all I ate yesterday except for some peanut butter and greek yogurt last night (I had to eat something with nutritional value because fried tofu and white rice wasn't really cutting it). So yeah, Mexican food Friday night and Chinese food yesterday. Although in reality, I probably wasn't far over (if any over) my maintenance calories both days, I still feel like I let things get a little out of control. I normally splurge once a month or so, not twice a weekend! :noway:
But anyway, it was delicious and it's over and done and I don't feel guilty about it because when I look at the bigger picture it doesn't even really make a difference. I've determined the #1 *most important* thing when it comes to trying to be healthier and lose weight is *don't give up.* The old me would've had a weekend like this one and Monday I would've still been off track. I would've said "screw it" and that would have been the end of it. Instead, I made sure I woke up with time to put in 30 good minutes on my stationary bike. I have already completely my food diary for the day and I intend to stick with it (won't be hard with beef stew and honey teriyaki stir fry on the menu -- yum!). I also plan to break in my new running shoes tonight (shin splints are gone, woot!) AND continue with my situp, pushup, squats challenges.
I'll use my splurges to my advantage. My body isn't going to know what hit it. :laugh: Right now it's like "oooh yeah, plenty of fuel here.. I can just let go of all this fat, no big deal because there's probably another cheese enchilada coming soon" and I'm going to be like "Yeah, body, you just keep on thinking that" and then I'm going to be like "BLAM! -- Take this 1500 calorie deficit!" And the fat is just going to melt away. Or something like that.0
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