cardio is pointless in my opinion
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why use all your energy tying to create a deficit in your body to lose weight? why not just channel that energy to muscle development.
and before anyone gets butt hurt, i kayak and cycle every weekend.
unless you are in a sport that requires aerobic fitness, then yeah there is a point, but other then that just a waste of time.
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omg totally read OP's profile...wow...yep someone like that would make a stupid post like this....0
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unless you are in a sport that requires aerobic fitness, then yeah there is a point, but other then that just a waste of time.
You summed up what my response would of been with this line. You have to work your heart and lungs somehow. Everyone has a different way. Also, everyone's situation is different. The "you should just lift weights" mentality probably works if you're semi-fit already and just want to lose 15lbs to get better abs. Maybe not so much when someone is trying to lose 50lbs.0 -
"People in masks cannot be trusted."
People with their heads wrapped up in their grandmothers' shawls can be trusted even less.0 -
The benefits to my cardiovascular system and the stress relief aren't pointless.
While it's true that, if I liked lifting, I would relieve stress with that, too, the first point isn't even subjective to my experience.0 -
I've found that a balance of cardio and weight training has worked best for me
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I can't do weights or too much heavy lifting because of a health issue. Also, why not strengthen your heart by doing cardio?0
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Everything is pointless in the scheme of things.
You've made my question my entire life.0 -
Cardio..as the name implies, improves your cardiovascular strength. Your heart is a muscle that needs to be worked out as well which is done most effectively through cardio (i.e. HIIT...which can be performed a variety of ways).0
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Both forms of exercise are very important. Aerobic exercise is more likely to cause initial weight loss and increase Resting Energy Expenditure (REE) following workouts. Resistance training builds Lean Body Mass (LBM), which is an essential mechanism for burning calories during rest and experiencing long-term weight loss. A good workout routine will consist of both aerobic exercise and strength/resistance training.0
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Why does it have to be an either/or question? Strength training and lifting improves metabolism long term as muscle is more thermogenic than fat. Strength training and lifting also improve bone density. Cardiovascular improves heart function, hence the reason it is called Cardiovascular. Cardio=heart in latin, vascular=veins. Improved heart function improves lung function and endurance.
Sure, you can lose weight doing just one or the other, but then you miss out on other health benefits. Just like we focus on balanced nutrition we should also focus on balanced fitness. Not everyone can join a gym or buy weights, but everyone can go out for a walk, take the stairs, and other cardiovascular exercises. Form matters much more in strength training to prevent injury, not everyone can develop good form without a trainer.
I think instead of criticizing people who are focused on one over the other people should understand that everyone's abilities and resources are different and anything that leads to weight loss and healthier lifestyle should be applauded.
I think this comment should be applauded.
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Weight training is pointless in my opinion. Who wants to have big muscles and no stamina?
No - I don't really think this... I really think that every individual has to find a balance which works for them - Nutrition, Strength, CV etc. It amazes me that people can be so close minded as to think that the way which worked for them is the way it should work for everyone else.0 -
Well I don't know about anyone else, but my cardiovascular function (asthmatic, do ocassional tests at the Dr.), resting heart rate and blood pressure have all improved from high intensity weightlifting.
I think it's funny (and sad) that everyone completely ignored your comment. Great job!0 -
Since your opinion matters oh so much I guess I will stop doing cardio.
NOT!0 -
LOL:laugh:0
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Weight loss per se is not the ultimate goal. The ultimate goal is to be fit. Considering all the heart related problems people experience as they age, isn't the health of your heart important to you? When you hit 60 if your body looks like a million bucks because you always took care of how you look through strength training but you drop dead from a heart attack because you ignored the health of your heart, what difference will that great looking body make then? Both are important for overall fitness and I do both.0
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Two very good reasons : (1) heart (2) lungs. "This" is not all about cosmetic appearance.0
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I sit at a desk all day so I feel like I already start the day in the red as far as activity goes. My legs and butt really seem to be enjoying that extra walky joggy time I've been getting, and it helps me clear my head so I don't kill people. :flowerforyou:0
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Clearly the use of the word "pointless" is intentionally inflammatory. However, if you're talking body composition, it's pretty clear that lifting is more important than cardio (outside of diet of course). And I would agree with you that it's alot more fun to train for an event or race than to run on a dreadmill like a gerbel. Plus, as a runner I can be considered athletic. If I just lifted I would only be a meat-head...0
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Look, can we all just stop being silly for a second.
Regular weight training is more than sufficient to improve heart function and assist in lung function. You don't need cardio for that. In fact strength training is regularly used in CV rehabilitation following myocardial infarctions or heart surgery. If you improve strength and muscle mass it means your functional ability increases which means less strain on your heart.
You don't need to do it to lose weight either. In pure efficiency and time cost terms it is more efficient to create a calorie deficit through diet then through cardio.
I think cardio is great on many levels but it's not somehow superior to weights from a health point of view.0 -
tell that to my heart, my cholesterol levels, and my mental well-being
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Strength -- Endurance -- Speed -- Flexibility. All are important in their proper boundaries. I understand your point but personally I see it as balance in all things.
^^^^^THIS^^^^^ I want to lose weight AND be healthy. Which includes a healthy cardiovascular system. Which is why my cardio is NOT pointless.0 -
tell that to my heart, my cholesterol levels, and my mental well-being
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why use all your energy tying to create a deficit in your body to lose weight? why not just channel that energy to muscle development.
and before anyone gets butt hurt, i kayak and cycle every weekend.
unless you are in a sport that requires aerobic fitness, then yeah there is a point, but other then that just a waste of time.
I get what you are saying....however, I sat next to my father-in-law in the hospital for an entire day while he had a stent put in. Last year, his brother had a heart attack. One of my uncles died of a heart attack. My mom has high blood pressure and cholesterol.
So, I'm gonna do my cardio.0 -
You know what they say about opinions....0
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"People in masks cannot be trusted."
People with their heads wrapped up in their grandmothers' shawls can be trusted even less.
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QFT!0 -
1. It's good for my heart.
2. Some of us still have considerable fat stores to deplete and weight training with a calorie surplus ain't gonna get it done.0 -
You know what they say about opinions....
They are like buttholes?0 -
You are pointless in my opinion.0
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Over the summer, my husband and I went hiking with a much younger friend of ours. He's 20-something, gym rat, looks like the poster child for fitness, lean, pretty much like the picture of Adonis, loves weights but does very little cardio.
We both out-hiked him badly. We had to stop many times along the climb to let him catch his breath. Sure... this is anecdotal, but I'm sure it has a little to do with the fact that I do BOTH cardio and strength-training.
Lifting might make you look pretty and offer health benefits for blood sugar management, bone denstity, etc - but cardio definitely has it's payoffs. I think it's pretty sad that a super-fit looking twenty-something would struggle so much on a three mile uphill walk.
Edited to Add... he added cardio to his workout after hiking that day. He's actually become sort of hooked on running 5Ks. :happy:0
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