Guys, be honest,....

You never look at an overweight or obese girl and say "damn she's hot. do you?? I've even caught my husband saying how thin women are hot, but never any that are overweight or obese.

On topic. No...I don't, depending on how you define overweight. I know guys who have a preference for a larger weight range than my own, or 'body type' if you will (a few for example have found the body type pictures in this thread attractive, I didn't)...and some who prefer thinner women than I do. None that I know of think obese women are 'hot' in any way, shape or form.

There's a reason the 'fetish' for obese women is considered a fetish...it's far, far out of the norm, and has more to do with mental, emotional and/or sexual issues or differences than any typically labled 'attraction'.

Oh no Fetish as a psychological term is one of the things the DSM has been steadily working on/trying to change in its next publication because it's this generation's homosexuality (same with the movements towards removing transgender/transsexuality being removed as a facet of body dysmorphia). A fetish does NOT necessarily stem from mental, emotional and/or sexual issues, and is better thought of as a "kink" or "taboo" for being "outside of the norm" or "alternative." The original definition of fetish was simply a sexual attraction for a body part outside of sexual characteristics, and the term has kind of taken on a life of its own. Really! A straight woman being attracted to large muscles in a man is technically a labeled fetish! Does that seem weird?

Fetishes of many kinds can be healthy and consensual and safe... and to label it as an "issue" isn't quite fair!

Well, of course everyone is going to have different preferences. I'll just say this...I'm 5'9", and when I was 140, I would get casually asked out, on the bus, in coffeeshops, whatever. Now, 6 years older, married, and in the 240s, I still get asked out casually and hit on in bars, social situations, etc. I actually think I may get it more because I'm much more relaxed about being in social situations now that I'm off the market.

Honestly, I don't know if the guys who hit on me when I was thin would hit on me now, and vise versa. But only one matters to me now, and he's loved me through thick and thin.

LOVE!

On topic. No...I don't, depending on how you define overweight. I know guys who have a preference for a larger weight range than my own, or 'body type' if you will (a few for example have found the body type pictures in this thread attractive, I didn't)...and some who prefer thinner women than I do. None that I know of think obese women are 'hot' in any way, shape or form.

There's a reason the 'fetish' for obese women is considered a fetish...it's far, far out of the norm, and has more to do with mental, emotional and/or sexual issues or differences than any typically labled 'attraction'.

Fat people are not a fetish. Some people fetishize fat people. There is a difference. There are many people attracted to fat people who do not fetishize them, just like there are people who are attracted to trans* people who do not fetishize them.

Id have to say a lot of "chubby" girls can pull off looking pretty/cute. Once they start getting too large though, then they lose any semblance of curvature and feminine figure. When they start looking so fat they remind me of (old) me, or start looking like my sister, then its just a major turn off and attraction goes out the door.

But thats just a small piece of the overall pie.

You never look at an overweight or obese girl and say "damn she's hot. do you?? I've even caught my husband saying how thin women are hot, but never any that are overweight or obese.

On topic. No...I don't, depending on how you define overweight. I know guys who have a preference for a larger weight range than my own, or 'body type' if you will (a few for example have found the body type pictures in this thread attractive, I didn't)...and some who prefer thinner women than I do. None that I know of think obese women are 'hot' in any way, shape or form.

There's a reason the 'fetish' for obese women is considered a fetish...it's far, far out of the norm, and has more to do with mental, emotional and/or sexual issues or differences than any typically labled 'attraction'.

Oh no Fetish as a psychological term is one of the things the DSM has been steadily working on/trying to change in its next publication because it's this generation's homosexuality (same with the movements towards removing transgender/transsexuality being removed as a facet of body dysmorphia). A fetish does NOT necessarily stem from mental, emotional and/or sexual issues, and is better thought of as a "kink" or "taboo" for being "outside of the norm" or "alternative." The original definition of fetish was simply a sexual attraction for a body part outside of sexual characteristics, and the term has kind of taken on a life of its own.

Fetishes of many kinds can be healthy and consensual and safe... and to label it as an "issue" isn't quite fair!

'Issues or differences' .

I covered my butt there lol. I agree completely regarding fetishes in general. But I think we all have to agree, some go beyond the bounds of healthy emotional or mental behavior. I'm not necessarily saying that men who find obese women sexually attractive fit into that category, its not my place to judge...but I think we all agree that its well into the minority overall.

I am being urged by the peanut gallery to cease and desist, but I must continue at least one more time, if only to say: you are literally policing thoughts with this logic, and I can only hope you feel that, "I think men who adhere to a hetero-normative standard should be flogged" is an equally uncharitable thought you should not think.

She said it jokingly lol, but it's an opinion she's expressed more than one or two or twenty times .

There's a reason the 'fetish' for obese women is considered a fetish...it's far, far out of the norm, and has more to do with mental, emotional and/or sexual issues or differences than any typically labled 'attraction'.

"Obese" can be someone 175 pounds. If you're talking about 500 pound women, yes I can understand. I hardly think my girlfriend has a fetish for loving my body when I was 300 pounds.

I'm not touching this with a ten foot pole. I've got enough strikes thank you very much.

LOL im not so easily offended, but i get where that was going.

There's a reason the 'fetish' for obese women is considered a fetish...it's far, far out of the norm, and has more to do with mental, emotional and/or sexual issues or differences than any typically labled 'attraction'.

"Obese" can be someone 175 pounds. If you're talking about 500 pound women, yes I can understand. I hardly think my girlfriend has a fetish for loving my body when I was 300 pounds.

yes, i think he means morbidly obese. the BMI charts that define obesity are almost complete BS. lots of women can be classified as obese who would be considered voluptuous and sexy by the majority of men.

I am obese, at the weight I am in my profile picture, taken this week. I meant truly obese, based on bodyfat levels. So yes, 175lbs, 5'1, with outrageous bodyfat levels would fit within my criteria...wheras 175lbs, 5'4, with reasonable bodyfat levels, would not.

Look guys, the first impression can be HEAVILY skewed just based on the way someone carries themselves..

Example:
Hot woman, nice butt.. what have you
If she had a bad odor about her like she didn't bathe properly, or didn't brush her hair
Hot woman=Significantly less hot

Example 2:
Larger lady, maybe even 'obese' category
Dressed in well-fitted, clean fashionable clothes, who took care of herself
Automatically boosts hot points despite weight range


Same goes for men, that's always what I notice. HOW THEY PRESENT THEMSELVES, visually.
You can't really present confidence in a significant way.
Well, if you do, it's probably obnoxious ha.

I love how you don't even specify "hot woman"'s body type, then proceed to specify "larger" woman's body type.
Fat and hot are not mutually exclusive. Hot does not imply thin.

For you. Stop pressuring YOUR opinions on everyone else.

LOL im not so easily offended, but i get where that was going.

I'm glad .

My obese statement had far more to do with bodyfat levels than anything else.

Fat people are not a fetish.

sorry...it is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_fetishism

Not what I meant.
Fat people are sometimes fetishIZED. We are not A FETISH.
Just like:
Trans people are sometimes fetishIZED. Trans people are not A FETISH.

To make it really simple:
Hair is sometimes fetishized. Finding that person's hair adds to their attractiveness is not the same as fetishizing their hair... Get it?