Wheat - Unhealthy or just evil?

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  • JennaM222
    JennaM222 Posts: 1,996 Member
    If white bread is bad for you and wheat bread is evil, what the heck am I supposed to make a friggin' sandwich out of???

    Sliced cucumbers?? LOL

    I LOVE BREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Cranktastic
    Cranktastic Posts: 1,517 Member
    ONE! ONE POT STIRRED! AH HA HA AH HAAAAAA!
  • craigineson
    craigineson Posts: 88 Member
    The only thing that's evil is yourself. And by yourself I mean a person in general, and their choices and portion sizes of what they eat. You're your own enemy when it comes to food.

    Really?
    I'd like to think my future body will thank my present self's consideration to reducing my exposure to advanced glycation end-products, high blood sugar, insulin resistance, and bad fats. I feel like my own best friend when it comes to food. I feed the body good stuff, it thanks me by making me not feel awful. Symbiosis.
  • craigineson
    craigineson Posts: 88 Member
    ONE! ONE POT STIRRED! AH HA HA AH HAAAAAA!

    You... You sir just made me laugh. Bravo.
  • NormalSaneFLGuy
    NormalSaneFLGuy Posts: 1,344 Member
    If white bread is bad for you and wheat bread is evil, what the heck am I supposed to make a friggin' sandwich out of???

    KFC got it right with the double down. Use two chicken breasts for the bun.
  • NormalSaneFLGuy
    NormalSaneFLGuy Posts: 1,344 Member
    My only complaint is that they don't GMO wheat to solve more issues. MOAR GMO!!!!!

    Maybe they could GMO it to remove gluten?

    Or we could GMO some bacteria to take in pill form and eat the gluten right from our bellies. That way bread will still have a delicious chewy texture. :)

    I feel like you might be a troll....
  • NormalSaneFLGuy
    NormalSaneFLGuy Posts: 1,344 Member
    You post this comment everywhere. It's becoming the equivalent of bacon comments.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    My only complaint is that they don't GMO wheat to solve more issues. MOAR GMO!!!!!

    Maybe they could GMO it to remove gluten?

    Or we could GMO some bacteria to take in pill form and eat the gluten right from our bellies. That way bread will still have a delicious chewy texture. :)

    I feel like you might be a troll....

    No, it's true that gluten makes all the difference in terms of the texture of bread. It's the primary reason to knead the dough.
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    My only complaint is that they don't GMO wheat to solve more issues. MOAR GMO!!!!!

    Maybe they could GMO it to remove gluten?

    Or we could GMO some bacteria to take in pill form and eat the gluten right from our bellies. That way bread will still have a delicious chewy texture. :)

    I feel like you might be a troll....

    ARE YOU CALLING ME UGLY?!?

    WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
  • BritneysStuntDouble
    BritneysStuntDouble Posts: 849 Member
    You post this comment everywhere. It's becoming the equivalent of bacon comments.
    Ah, crap. Think so?
  • BritneysStuntDouble
    BritneysStuntDouble Posts: 849 Member
    That way bread will still have a delicious chewy texture. :)
    Like perfectly-cooked human flesh.
  • lacurandera1
    lacurandera1 Posts: 8,083 Member
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    one year of wheat consumption = wheat belly

    Fire Rock, Sometimes i look at these posts just to see what you'e said. :D
  • DonniesGirl69
    DonniesGirl69 Posts: 644 Member
    I :heart: wheat
    I eat it daily, it fuels my runs.
    Also, as with a previous poster, you may evaluate my "wheat belly" if you so wish. :smooched:
    Have a happy day.
  • NormalSaneFLGuy
    NormalSaneFLGuy Posts: 1,344 Member
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    one year of wheat consumption = wheat belly

    Fire Rock, Sometimes i look at these posts just to see what you'e said. :D

    but mostly you look to learn useful information from me.
  • gauchogirl
    gauchogirl Posts: 467 Member
    I read several major reports by big research organizations and I am thuroughly convinced that consuming wheat is unhealthy in every way. So I ask you, is wheat unhealthy or just plain evil? Thoughts?

    I don't eat grains.
    But you won't make any friends not eating grains here. Grains are the crack cocaine of the general MFP forum user. To each their own, but I'm free from that addiction.

    ^^^ Listen to this guy. He sounds like he knows what he's talking about. I'm free of that addiction too, and it is AWESOME how AWESOME I feel. And no, I don't have Celiac, but IMO, it's true that MANY more people are intolerant of grains than we know. You go through life thinking you feel GOOD, until the day when you feel GREAT and realize "good" was just "okay." Eliminating grains did that for me.
  • chocl8girl
    chocl8girl Posts: 1,968 Member
    No.
  • running_shoe
    running_shoe Posts: 180 Member
    I really just wish people would decide what is right for them and stop trying to convince the universe. You are wasting your time and ours.
  • MeeshyBW
    MeeshyBW Posts: 382 Member
    I have suffered from IBS and GERD for nearly 10 years and since gutting out gluten I have had far fewer problems.

    It took me several years to figure out my triggers but anyone who suffers from the above problems I would definitely recommend trying to go Gluten free.

    I have literally never had so much energy in my adult life. I always had severe lethargy in the mornings but now I get up and go to the gym, no problem!

    I am a gluten free convert, I have since found out I have quite a strong intolerance so I am not avoiding it to be fashionable.

    Give it a go!
  • jlapey
    jlapey Posts: 1,850 Member
    If white bread is bad for you and wheat bread is evil, what the heck am I supposed to make a friggin' sandwich out of???

    KFC got it right with the double down. Use two chicken breasts for the bun.

    Well, that's one way to up my protein, isn't it?
  • Kathy_TheVampireSlayer
    Kathy_TheVampireSlayer Posts: 189 Member
    I like my Gluten FRIEDDD :smokin:
  • Beastette
    Beastette Posts: 1,497 Member
    You have to drink an MSG shake immediately afterward to neutralize wheat's effects. Come with me if you want to live!
  • RhineDHP
    RhineDHP Posts: 1,025 Member
    The only thing that's evil is yourself. And by yourself I mean a person in general, and their choices and portion sizes of what they eat. You're your own enemy when it comes to food.

    Really?
    I'd like to think my future body will thank my present self's consideration to reducing my exposure to advanced glycation end-products, high blood sugar, insulin resistance, and bad fats. I feel like my own best friend when it comes to food. I feed the body good stuff, it thanks me by making me not feel awful. Symbiosis.

    Yep, you can be your worst enemy and your greatest ally with your food choices. Don't blame or congratulate specific foods for your health, blame or congratulate your personal choices.
  • tobnrn
    tobnrn Posts: 477 Member
    If white bread is bad for you and wheat bread is evil, what the heck am I supposed to make a friggin' sandwich out of???

    KFC got it right with the double down. Use two chicken breasts for the bun.

    What if your on a protein restriction? Im Fooked. :sad:
  • Yani51
    Yani51 Posts: 48 Member
    I think this post, about wheat being unhealthy, is straight from the Paleo Diet webpage...
    http://paleodietlifestyle.com/11-ways-gluten-and-wheat-can-damage-your-health/

    For another opinion of the Paleo Diet, from a "clinical professor of nutrition" I suggest reading this article from the Huffington Post website...
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/20/paleo-diet-healthy_n_1898529.html
    in which "Lisa Sassoon, a registered dietitian and assistant clinical professor of nutrition at NYU, agrees. "There's no real research behind it either. And it eliminates things that do have research behind them: grains, beans and low-fat dairy.""

    Personally, I look very closely at the people, organisations and research behind such claims before I form an opinion. IMO the Paleo Diet assertions that wheat is unhealthy doesn't look like it has had much quality research from respectable organisations to back their claims.
  • craigineson
    craigineson Posts: 88 Member
    ^^^ Listen to this guy. He sounds like he knows what he's talking about. I'm free of that addiction too, and it is AWESOME how AWESOME I feel. And no, I don't have Celiac, but IMO, it's true that MANY more people are intolerant of grains than we know. You go through life thinking you feel GOOD, until the day when you feel GREAT and realize "good" was just "okay." Eliminating grains did that for me.

    I like you. You say nice things and don't spit venom in my face for my choices.
  • NormalSaneFLGuy
    NormalSaneFLGuy Posts: 1,344 Member
    If white bread is bad for you and wheat bread is evil, what the heck am I supposed to make a friggin' sandwich out of???

    KFC got it right with the double down. Use two chicken breasts for the bun.

    What if your on a protein restriction? Im Fooked. :sad:

    Any allergies to cardboard?
  • tobnrn
    tobnrn Posts: 477 Member
    If white bread is bad for you and wheat bread is evil, what the heck am I supposed to make a friggin' sandwich out of???

    KFC got it right with the double down. Use two chicken breasts for the bun.

    What if your on a protein restriction? Im Fooked. :sad:

    Any allergies to cardboard?

    I hear it's high fiber as well. :drinker:
  • MissJanet55
    MissJanet55 Posts: 457 Member
    I didn't read all four pages so I don't know if someone has already mentioned this, but my understanding is that wheat has been genetically modified to contain much more gluten than it contains naturally. This keeps it stable in commercial baking. Apparently you can test this by trying to bake bread or cake with a recipe from the 1950s - it won't work the same way it used to.

    I have been gluten free for nearly two years and it has resolved a lifelong problem I had with my skin. In the spring I was in Vietnam and there were a few occasions where wheat based foods were the only option, and I had no problem with it at all. So I thought "what the heck" and started eating more and more baked goods, which is a great idea in Vietnam where the long history of French occupation has left behind a fantastic tradition of baked delicous things. No problem.

    When I mentioned this to my doctor she said she hears this all the time from people, that when they leave North America the wheat doesn't bother them. She is convinced it's GMO wheat that 's the problem, not wheat itself.
  • lacurandera1
    lacurandera1 Posts: 8,083 Member
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    one year of wheat consumption = wheat belly

    Fire Rock, Sometimes i look at these posts just to see what you'e said. :D

    but mostly you look to learn useful information from me.

    What was the useful information? chicken breasts as buns? lol!
  • craigineson
    craigineson Posts: 88 Member
    I didn't read all four pages so I don't know if someone has already mentioned this, but my understanding is that wheat has been genetically modified to contain much more gluten than it contains naturally. This keeps it stable in commercial baking. Apparently you can test this by trying to bake bread or cake with a recipe from the 1950s - it won't work the same way it used to.

    I have been gluten free for nearly two years and it has resolved a lifelong problem I had with my skin. In the spring I was in Vietnam and there were a few occasions where wheat based foods were the only option, and I had no problem with it at all. So I thought "what the heck" and started eating more and more baked goods, which is a great idea in Vietnam where the long history of French occupation has left behind a fantastic tradition of baked delicous things. No problem.

    When I mentioned this to my doctor she said she hears this all the time from people, that when they leave North America the wheat doesn't bother them. She is convinced it's GMO wheat that 's the problem, not wheat itself.

    Funny you should mention that, actually... A friend of mine has a wheat intolerance that *suddenly* went away when she lived for a year in a small rural town in France. I haven't read of anyone else who has had a similar experience.

    There are alternate wheats - Like einkorn and emmen - which are genetically more simple than today's wheat. Today's wheat has (IIRC) 48-chromosomes, whereas primitive (but still available for purchase) wheats like einkorn and emmen have only 8- and 16-chromosomes respectively. Apparently they produce less of an inflammatory response, even in those sensitive to wheat, than modern conventional wheat.

    I'm interested in trying it myself, as I know normal wheat doesn't agree with me, but I'll only believe it if I see it!

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