does milk count as water?

This topic is making me thirsty! Off to have a glass of water with ice. It's a good thing I don't drink milk or I'd be stuck! (Can I count my glass of water if it has ice in it?)

If you have water with ice in it, it counts as 2 cups of water.

I posted peer reviewed studies - not opinion. Basically milk can be counted towards your hydration.

and according to medical professionals, when monitoring patient's hydration, so do things like soup broth and even jello.

Very true!

Anyone that tells you milk doesn't count toward hydration is missing some very basic chemistry knowledge, plain and simple. Their opinions are not valid, since they display ignorance about how the body processes nutrients.

This is my favorite thread so far! Lots of giggles and laughs, Thanks:). Laughing is good for you, it can lower cortisol levels, increase relaxation and burns calories:)

I know you know chem we have talked about it before. As you know the law conservation of mass, 1 molecule of H2o is 1 molecule H2o doesn't matter the state it's in. To consume 1 cup of water you have to consume x molecules of H2o. We can figure out how many molecules through dimensional analysis using the density formula, and molecular mass. I am sure you know the routine. 1 cup of h2o in gas form has the same molecules of 1 cup of h2o in liquid form.

When you consume H2o(g) it will be mixed with environmental gases so... yes you would need more volume to consume, but the amount of H2O you're taking in is the same. I know you know this, just saying it for other people, what you said could be misinterpreted.

I don't know how you ended up discussing chemistry in this thread, but my nerdy self urgently needs to chip in: 1 cup of water does NOT have the same molecules with 1 cup of gas water simply because their densities are different. Or if we just use some common sense which is the best way (imo) to do any kind of science, if you hold up one cup of gas (let's say it's closed so that it doesn't escape) and one cup of water you'll obviously notice that the (liquid) water is heavier. The reason simply being that it contains more water molecules...

Edited to add: I kind of hate myself for making another correction, but dimensional analysis could NEVER give you the number of molecules, simply because the number of molecules is dimensionless...

how the hell did this end up with us talking about the proper way to drink pee?

Blame the person who failed reading comprehension.

That post was meant to be humorous. We need a snark font.

Yeah, I caught it. I was just giving them grief.

Are you for realz??

seriously?!!!!!! LOL

Pu_239, I'll reply here for now, but if the discussion continues, perhaps it's better to exchange some PMs. I'm not trying to show off or annoy you, I just felt the need to clarify a couple things you said and were wrong.

Water has one density, the density doesn't change dependent on state.

That's simply wrong. The density of any material is not carved in stone - it depends on temperature and pressure. Especially for gases, this dependence is critical (remember the ideal gases law, PV=nRT? n/V is practically the density)
Now for liquids and solids, this dependence is much weaker and for most everyday applications you can use e.g. for water the value of 1kg/m^3. But it's not a constant. Water in gas form will have a very different density.

The cup example is there are "less molecules" in the gas cup. If ther was the same molecules as the liquid cup then it would way the same. I think you're confused, I never said 1 cup of gas. It will be a lot more.

Actually what you said in your previous post was

I know you know chem we have talked about it before. As you know the law conservation of mass, 1 molecule of H2o is 1 molecule H2o doesn't matter the state it's in. To consume 1 cup of water you have to consume x molecules of H2o. We can figure out how many molecules through dimensional analysis using the density formula, and molecular mass. I am sure you know the routine. 1 cup of h2o in gas form has the same molecules of 1 cup of h2o in liquid form.

That last sentence I put in bold is wrong. This is what my earlier comment was about.

so here is your dimensional analysis

1cup (236.588mL/1cup)(1g/1 mL )(1mol /18.0153g)(6.022*10^23molecules/1mole) = 7.60846e24 molecules of H2O in 1 cup

or 7,608,460,000,000,000,000,000,000 molecules of H2O per 1 cup of water.

I see why you misinterpreted my comment. What you wrote is absolutely correct but it's not "dimensional analysis". It's just the application of a couple simple formulas & definitions. If you're interested, take a look at this to see what dimensional analysis is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimensional_analysis

I hope this clarifies everything. Again, let me repeat I'm not trying to show off or annoy you. I enjoy good scientific discussions and that's why I commented in the first place.