female body; let's take a reality check please

This is a losing fight especially with women. as evidenced by so many people offended.

No one is offended, they're just a bunch of whinny little ________, that's all.

Good post OP

Nice Pu....very nice! And you really have no issue with some of the things the OP said.....you know even less than I originally thought.

I went back to see what the problem was, I just skimmed through it. I see the problem now, The thing about the thigh gap, and the girl in the bikini being called anorexic. That's the only problem I see. The intentions where well placed.

I also want to state, a true anorexic or someone with a true ED. won't be boasting about it on their MFP wall. A lot of emo kids out there trying to do something they think is cool. I am saying because in the OP she mentioned along the lines of "choosing" to have an ED. Then all the people with wannabe ED's jumped in saying it's not a choice. That's real irony right there.

So, you went back and read the post after already calling everyone whiny b!tches and *kitten*?

What has your comment got to do with anything the OP posted? Or the subsequent comments. You really do not get it do you? If those are the only things you saw well, your head may be somewhere where it is hard to see clearly.

My head is in the be happy category, don't be looking for things to whine and complain about, that's where my head is.

OMG, the irony....or is it something else...something to do with where your head may be?

if you are a fitness enthusiast and look like this



then you are not anorexic.

inbox messaging me hate mail does convey a serious mental instability though.

Women have curves. No curves is not normal.

if you are reading into anything else about my OP then you need to take a step back and ask yourself, "why"?

I am sorry if my english is offensive to you all. spanish is my first language.

OHHH okay, let me translate, "No te prequpes, son un bollas de pendejos/pendejas"

Oh, and calling everyone *kitten*, even in another language is really rather rude....yes, I can understand Spanish.

You don't think it's rude that someone makes a post, and everyone finds SOME reason to complain about it? Doesn't matter what the post is?

it's rude, it's dumb, it's stupid, and doesn't contribute to anyone on MFP.

Based on your prior posts, the irony of this is amazing

if you are a fitness enthusiast and look like this



then you are not anorexic.

inbox messaging me hate mail does convey a serious mental instability though.

Women have curves. No curves is not normal.

if you are reading into anything else about my OP then you need to take a step back and ask yourself, "why"?

I am sorry if my english is offensive to you all. spanish is my first language.

OHHH okay, let me translate, "No te prequpes, son un bollas de pendejos/pendejas"

You do realize that you are not supposed to post in another language? Even one with misspelling.

Remember how I knit picked your study? You can knit pick my spelling all you want to, you have been doing it for a while now.

Nope - I have done it twice.

if you are a fitness enthusiast and look like this



then you are not anorexic.

inbox messaging me hate mail does convey a serious mental instability though.

Women have curves. No curves is not normal.

if you are reading into anything else about my OP then you need to take a step back and ask yourself, "why"?

I am sorry if my english is offensive to you all. spanish is my first language.

OHHH okay, let me translate, "No te prequpes, son un bollas de pendejos/pendejas"

Oh, and calling everyone *kitten*, even in another language is really rather rude....yes, I can understand Spanish.

You don't think it's rude that someone makes a post, and everyone finds SOME reason to complain about it? Doesn't matter what the post is?

it's rude, it's dumb, it's stupid, and doesn't contribute to anyone on MFP.

Based on your prior posts, the irony of this is amazing

Or maybe the meaning is depper than you think, like making a point. Not randomly complaining, just because i can.

Errr...please enlighten us.

Thanks for making me abnormal.

3/4 of the op was BS

Sara... Pu.

Please stop quoting eachother. As much as I like both of you, it is bloody annoying

Sara... Pu.

Please stop quoting eachother. As much as I like both of you, it is bloody annoying

Don't worry - he is off eating breakfast now ;-P

This is a losing fight especially with women. as evidenced by so many people offended.

No one is offended, they're just a bunch of whinny little ________, that's all.

Good post OP

Nice Pu....very nice! And you really have no issue with some of the things the OP said.....you know even less than I originally thought.

I went back to see what the problem was, I just skimmed through it. I see the problem now, The thing about the thigh gap, and the girl in the bikini being called anorexic. That's the only problem I see. The intentions where well placed.

I also want to state, a true anorexic or someone with a true ED. won't be boasting about it on their MFP wall. A lot of emo kids out there trying to do something they think is cool. I am saying because in the OP she mentioned along the lines of "choosing" to have an ED. Then all the people with wannabe ED's jumped in saying it's not a choice. That's real irony right there.

Sorry, wannabe ED's are irritating and annoying I'll give you that much... Quite funny in a way... BUT your wrong... about 99% of the site is FULL of ED people LOL...

COE or Compulsive Overeating I am sure most here who are losing weight are fighting that one...

Bulimia, some here are most likely as well.

Ana, yep that too.

And EDNOS

But a lot would have EDNOS I reckon, along with COE would be the majority ana/mia the minority, and normal an even smaller percentage of that.

The clinical definition in the DSM IV puts most people here with issues..

Take from that what you want... I'm also willing to bet a site like MFP quite happily enables and enforces an breeding ground that would make some develop orthorexia. Just how it is.

Don't hate on people, everyone struggles with something.

Also a true ED not boasting? Sure.. I agree, but you not been to a treatment centre have you? Or been in mind of one? How you always compare, look at others then yourself etc almost like a little competition on who is the sickest? I mean... it is the only mental illness you compare and see if your sicker than them really and happy when are... If you don't understand, then you never will...

Sorry, but ignorance in this case is not bliss, it just hurts others. The OP should have used healthy looking. Normal is not normal in different societies. What is one societies norm is anothers fat or anothers too skinny. The term normal is such a broad definition and the OP tries to justify the way they "think" it is. In general put your average american next to a european and an asian. three different norms, three different views. And there are other countries but I would imagine those would be the 3 that most would understand the difference I am getting at here.

Average American bigger than Average European who is still bigger than Average Asian.

Which of them is the normal view in their society? Would they be looked down on because their genetics are different in another country so they cannot be normal?

if you are a fitness enthusiast and look like this



then you are not anorexic.

inbox messaging me hate mail does convey a serious mental instability though.

Women have curves. No curves is not normal.

if you are reading into anything else about my OP then you need to take a step back and ask yourself, "why"?

I am sorry if my english is offensive to you all. spanish is my first language.

I'm sorry but most of the people in this competition probably dehydrated themselves, and barely ate before this... that to me is neither normal or healthy...

your profile said you are religious and do not judge others, but clearly from this original post you don't practice what you preach.

I understand that, as a personal trainer, you have some degree of health and fitness knowledge which may or may not be greater than mine. But, I must say that your post had some glaringly insensitive and incorrect points.
Having a flat butt does not make you anorexic. Anorexia does. Obesity can be genetic, and thus people are born into it; telling them that their obesity is unnatural is cruel, and you have no insight into their situations with which to base your opinions. Same with thigh gaps--some are born with them, or with the right set of hip and bone size to have one. You cannot inform all of humanity, or all of women, because you yourself are appallingly uninformed. Do your research before posting something so offensive, rather than resting on a college course in physiology and your laurels to defend your philistinian blogging. If I have offended you, I reverence Hamurabbi's code: An eye for an eye. Your post has offended me greatly, and many other women(judging by their reactions), and so while I did not set out with the intent to offend you, I will feel no guilt or shame if I have.

The 2 pictures you have of anorexic models are photo shopped. Yes models are thin but do you really think they'd be on catwalk looking like that.

I get the point of your post but you did a poor job of supporting it. As for the last girl, she does not look anorexic at all. Some people are just small. Some people work really hard to get that kind of look.

I have 1 friend who looks like the last girl, she trains hard and follows an eat clean diet.
I have another who just can't gain weight. She is 5'9 and 115 pounds, size 0-1. She hates it but can't gain.
Also I have a friend who is a plus size girl. She eats fairly well and we go running a few times a week. She has been trying for 3 months to lose weight and hasn't been able to. Granted she could be lying about her diet.

What i'm getting at is your being insensitive.

How'd you come to the conclusion that fit chick is anorexic?

anorexia is characterized by the amount of weight lost in a period of time... so you could be really fat and starving yourself of food.... that would be considered anorexic so I am told...

Nope that's not correct. Just because your daily meals consist of 1/2 banana and coffee doesn't automatically make you anorexic. To be truly called anorexic, first you must be underweight. Now if you're starving yourself but still fat or in the normal weight range, you are considered EDNOS, not anorexic. EDNOS is another form of ED which describes those who have ED but doesn't met one or two criteria to be classified as anorexia or bulimia and the one you're describing (the bolded one) is one example.

if you are a fitness enthusiast and look like this



then you are not anorexic.

inbox messaging me hate mail does convey a serious mental instability though.

Women have curves. No curves is not normal.

if you are reading into anything else about my OP then you need to take a step back and ask yourself, "why"?

I am sorry if my english is offensive to you all. spanish is my first language.

I'm sorry but most of the people in this competition probably dehydrated themselves, and barely ate before this... that to me is neither normal or healthy...

your profile said you are religious and do not judge others, but clearly from this original post you don't practice what you preach.

That's true in most cases but they do it on purpose only DURING the pre-contest and competition but come off-season and all year round, they are eating normally. That's simply part of their job as physique athletes. But just because some of them did insane things on purpose prior to the show doesn't make them anorexics nor EDNOS. Those two ED conditions takes a long time and pattern of both physical and psychological change. Which is also why I find the OP's post too judgmental.

How'd you come to the conclusion that fit chick is anorexic?

anorexia is characterized by the amount of weight lost in a period of time... so you could be really fat and starving yourself of food.... that would be considered anorexic so I am told...

Nope that's not correct. Just because your daily meals consist of 1/2 banana and coffee doesn't automatically make you anorexic. To be truly called anorexic, first you must be underweight. Now if you're starving yourself but still fat or in the normal weight range, you are considered EDNOS, not anorexic. EDNOS is another form of ED which describes those who have ED but doesn't met one or two criteria to be classified as anorexia or bulimia and the one you're describing (the bolded one) is one example.

Anorexia, technically, is medically applied to "lack of hunger leading to severe/sudden weight loss"; people undergoing chemo, suffering from AIDs, etc., can have "anorexia" as a symptom. However, anorexia as a mental disorder is characterized by further signs and symptoms.

If you yourself were diagnosed with EDNOS, that could very well just be the certain psychologist/psychiatrist that diagnosed you; if you got different opinions, a different doctor may have considered you anorexic, or with a comorbidity of body dysmorphia as an underlying issue. Psychology, like other medicine, can be applied differently by different practitioners.

What the hell is this comment. "Wanne be" EDs? The "pro-ana/mia" people, I could argue, are still dealing with a mental disorder if they're desiring a disease, but I'm thinking you're misunderstanding the proclamation that, "I have an ED/recovering from an ED" is somehow "boasting." Many people preface themselves on a fitness site with that, because it helps attract other people who are in the same boat (or conversely, very opposite people) as accountability buddies. Someone talking about their struggles with alcoholism or other drug abuse isn't "boasting" about it.

But then, I'm pretty sure I've encountered your posts before on here, so I'm hoping I'm confusing you with someone else and you actually hear me out.

Well actually to me it made sense... There are people that try to become anorexic or emaciated and they can stop, they just want to be that thin because of some idea of it being the "in" thing or whatever.

Then there are the pro-ana/mia groups who actually have accepted who they are and trying to find a middle way, someplace where it is healthier than they are now, but still not freak out about the different annoyances and voices one has. And by accepting I mean knowing they have a real issue, and tried recovery and did not work, and so trying to fight against it, but accepting it is a part of them and adjusting things so as to be healthier within certain constraints.

Still is hell though lol... Hey, life sucks and when you do something like that, you do not want others to try to be like that, it stays with you for life... Maybe not the weight issue, but the voice that tells you stuff the way you see yourself in mirror etc, it permanently changes.. Recovery in my view doesn't work because they don't understand it one will treat as physical, the other psychiatric disorder, other will tell person nothing wrong and can't help till they lose more, and others will just say to shut up and eat.

So please understand while I do not agree with all he said, that much I understand... People putting themselves through it, don't understand till it happens, then it is too late and everything changes.

I get highly upset when people say I'm thin now... Because I don't think I am... I wanna be 100 pounds I think... I think.. maybe less but maybe not because of muscle mass. I am short, so I think that is fine... At 130 odd pounds and people telling me I am thin, it is upsetting because now I refuse to tell people my weight, what I eat etc because if they say I shouldn't be this weight or that, well it aint there business now is it! Mentioning it makes me wanna do it quicker and harder and I'm struggling to NOT do it that way... I could lose that in one month maybe less... but I want to do it healthy... And people moaning and saying s*** really upsets me and makes me think what an idiot they are.. It is not for attention, no one knows around me how I feel, I smile I cover it up, when I cut my arms I cover that up too... I don't want people to see me like that I don't so I hide stuff...

I find being here around positive people makes the choice easier, if people want to discriminate then that is your issue don't make mine worst because of your stupid misplaced beliefs...

Look around the internet, you will find tonnes of posts about wannarexics you will found a lot and it is sad, people shouldn't WANT to hate themselves like this, always living constant guilt because you ate something it is NOT normal and NOT good... I almost went into anaphylactic shock during a race because of it, and instead of doctors orders, I told him to shut up and just carried on... which fine is good as I had to get that medal for my collection, but in hindsight, with my pulse low and blood pressure severely low DURING a racing event... I should have listened and gone to hospital like he wanted me to... I mean cycling and reaching 40km/hr+ is dangerous when you could faint at any moment and feeling dizzy...