why do people care that someone is fat?
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You're asking for honesty, because it's 'gross'... to be honest, I worked at hooters and serving overweight people fatty foods grossed me right out!
I can't eat with people who are overweight and make bad food choices because it creeps me out too.
Maybe I sound mean, but I can't help it!
Great honesty, to be sure, but so glad I can add to the list of people I would NOT want to get to know on this site.
Yikes.
PS You can "help" it if you truly wanted to--it's called compassion for others.
Don't judge me... she asked for honesty so I gave her honesty. I have compassion for those who help themselves. If you're drowning yourself in your own sorrows, I can't be sympathetic... why would I be? You don't care about yourself, so why should I?0 -
I care in a sympathetic way.
That... and when I see someone who is REALLY fat, like REALLLLLY fat, I think to myself "WHY?? HOW??" I saw this woman the other day, probably around my age (I'm 28) who had to have been easily 350 pounds and her *kitten* was just so friggin' big, you could probably put a glass of water on it and it wouldn't fall off. Her thighs were just monstrous and bulgy everywhere. How does that happen?
According to your ticker you were 302lbs...I really think that you are the last person to be judging that...0 -
*Sorry it double posted*0
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You're asking for honesty, because it's 'gross'... to be honest, I worked at hooters and serving overweight people fatty foods grossed me right out!
I can't eat with people who are overweight and make bad food choices because it creeps me out too.
Maybe I sound mean, but I can't help it!
Great honesty, to be sure, but so glad I can add to the list of people I would NOT want to get to know on this site.
Yikes.
PS You can "help" it if you truly wanted to--it's called compassion for others.
Don't judge me... she asked for honesty so I gave her honesty. I have compassion for those who help themselves. If you're drowning yourself in your own sorrows, I can't be sympathetic... why would I be? You don't care about yourself, so why should I?
Compassion can go a long way. I'm not saying enable anyone not willing to change their life...but what about "fat" people who are actively trying to change their life? maybe they are being hindered due to medical conditions...maybe they were 300lbs, lost a 100 but according to you..you won't "eat" with them because technically they are still fat.
Seems very sad because you'll never get to know how great they are because you are too busy automatically putting them into the fat people who don't care about their health category.
Also - food in moderation is okay - including what you think of as bad. If that person who lost a 100lbs was having a cheeseburger, I bet you'd still think they were gross..even though they have a good handle on their food and are consistently losing.0 -
Not sure. But one time someone told me that thin women don't like fat women because the thin ones work real hard to be thin and are wishing that they could eat more too, and they don't like it even more if the fat woman is happy and has a loving man in her life even though she doesn't give up all food to keep him. Not sure why men don't like fat women---maybe because the media and hollywood keeps telling them that only thin women are pretty? Some men are real offended when a fat woman likes them or asks them out--it's like they think less of themselves cause a fat woman actually thought she had a chance with them.--I don't know! But I wish people would not be so judgemental----I personally like a chunkier man. The women in my family are all fat---(well except for my Mom who was like this tiny little thing!) and I think we all pretty!
This is a lot of made up junk that doesn't really happen in the real world.0 -
I love how someone will tell me I'm fat like I didn't know I am. It's like No *kitten* really? I didn't know!0
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I think some of the really angry guys that are very abusive are actually very sexually attracted to big girls but have bought into media standards to sell clothes.
They really just need a big booty and a puffy woonanny and their anger would be gone.
It's kind of like people who are excessively homophobic deep down theres some pent up urges there.
Free yourself love the fatties! We are hella fun!0 -
You're asking for honesty, because it's 'gross'... to be honest, I worked at hooters and serving overweight people fatty foods grossed me right out!
I can't eat with people who are overweight and make bad food choices because it creeps me out too.
Maybe I sound mean, but I can't help it!
Yup, you do sound mean. And you can help it... try not being so shallow, see how that goes.0 -
Because everyone in this society strives for perfection, and in order to feel better about their flaws, they need to pick at everyone elses.... THIS SOCIETY SUCKS!0
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You're asking for honesty, because it's 'gross'... to be honest, I worked at hooters and serving overweight people fatty foods grossed me right out!
I can't eat with people who are overweight and make bad food choices because it creeps me out too.
Maybe I sound mean, but I can't help it!
Great honesty, to be sure, but so glad I can add to the list of people I would NOT want to get to know on this site.
Yikes.
PS You can "help" it if you truly wanted to--it's called compassion for others.
Don't judge me... she asked for honesty so I gave her honesty. I have compassion for those who help themselves. If you're drowning yourself in your own sorrows, I can't be sympathetic... why would I be? You don't care about yourself, so why should I?
I will judge. You are making assumptions about people to justify your close-minded view of people who are different than you.0 -
I think some of the really angry guys that are very abusive are actually very sexually attracted to big girls but have bought into media standards to sell clothes.
They really just need a big booty and a puffy woonanny and their anger would be gone.
It's kind of like people who are excessively homophobic deep down theres some pent up urges there.
Free yourself love the fatties! We are hella fun!
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You're asking for honesty, because it's 'gross'... to be honest, I worked at hooters and serving overweight people fatty foods grossed me right out!
I can't eat with people who are overweight and make bad food choices because it creeps me out too.
Maybe I sound mean, but I can't help it!
Great honesty, to be sure, but so glad I can add to the list of people I would NOT want to get to know on this site.
Yikes.
PS You can "help" it if you truly wanted to--it's called compassion for others.
Don't judge me... she asked for honesty so I gave her honesty. I have compassion for those who help themselves. If you're drowning yourself in your own sorrows, I can't be sympathetic... why would I be? You don't care about yourself, so why should I?
I will judge. You are making assumptions about people to justify your close-minded view of people who are different than you.
You can be free to judge fat people and think of them as 'gross' and others are also free to judge you as not a very nice person.0 -
You're asking for honesty, because it's 'gross'... to be honest, I worked at hooters and serving overweight people fatty foods grossed me right out!
I can't eat with people who are overweight and make bad food choices because it creeps me out too.
Maybe I sound mean, but I can't help it!
Great honesty, to be sure, but so glad I can add to the list of people I would NOT want to get to know on this site.
Yikes.
PS You can "help" it if you truly wanted to--it's called compassion for others.
Don't judge me... she asked for honesty so I gave her honesty. I have compassion for those who help themselves. If you're drowning yourself in your own sorrows, I can't be sympathetic... why would I be? You don't care about yourself, so why should I?
>Posts a comment where she judges fat people
>Next post tells us not to judge her
Wat.
Edit, ah. I see the person above me already covered that. Great minds think alike ;30 -
I think some of the really angry guys that are very abusive are actually very sexually attracted to big girls but have bought into media standards to sell clothes.
They really just need a big booty and a puffy woonanny and their anger would be gone.
It's kind of like people who are excessively homophobic deep down theres some pent up urges there.
Free yourself love the fatties! We are hella fun!
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Why do you care that you are (possibly) fat?0
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Can't really say but a lot of "fat" people that I met always think everyone's looking down at them for some reason when it's simply not the case. Everyone is discriminated against/bullied but it seems as though "fat" people are the most sensitive to it.
Also for the record I've seen more "fat" people bullying others than I've seen "fat" people getting bullied.0 -
You're asking for honesty, because it's 'gross'... to be honest, I worked at hooters and serving overweight people fatty foods grossed me right out!
I can't eat with people who are overweight and make bad food choices because it creeps me out too.
Maybe I sound mean, but I can't help it!
Great honesty, to be sure, but so glad I can add to the list of people I would NOT want to get to know on this site.
Yikes.
PS You can "help" it if you truly wanted to--it's called compassion for others.
Don't judge me... she asked for honesty so I gave her honesty. I have compassion for those who help themselves. If you're drowning yourself in your own sorrows, I can't be sympathetic... why would I be? You don't care about yourself, so why should I?
I bet you're a joy to be around0 -
Why do you care that you are (possibly) fat?
because people treat me badly for being so...0 -
Why do you care that you are (possibly) fat?
because people treat me badly for being so...
Then don't let it. It is up to you what you let hurt you. no one can "make" you feel anything (except physical pain of course). Yeah, ignoring them and not letting it eat at you is hard...but it can be done.
You could also see it as a type of motivation. Prove them wrong and know you can be a better person not just physically, but mentally as well.0 -
Can't really say but a lot of "fat" people that I met always think everyone's looking down at them for some reason when it's simply not the case. Everyone is discriminated against/bullied but it seems as though "fat" people are the most sensitive to it.
Also for the record I've seen more "fat" people bullying others than I've seen "fat" people getting bullied.
Have you ever had someone scream profanities at you out their car window when you walking down the street?
Point and laugh at you when you are sitting in a chair and your fat is pointing out the sides?
Throw food at you?
Not give you job opportunities because you are fat?
What about, going with your friend to their friends house and their friend literally saying you are not allowed to enter their house because you are so fat.
I have NEVER seen ANY of this happen to a person who is a regular weight. Sorry for being so 'sensitive' though, I should have just kept my depression to myself.
That is all.0 -
I think people "judge" those who are fat based on the fact that losing and maintaining weight requires hard-work and discipline. They view obese people as lazy, and lacking self control. In some cases this is a fair charge, in some cases it is not.
I do think the fact that obesity is one of the leading causes of rising healthcare costs makes it societies concern.
Even though everyone says "I don't care what other people think" most people want to be loved, respected, desired .... So societies opinion can be a motivating factor for a positive life change.
also FWIW adults whining about getting bullied is lame!!! Fact life isn't fair, and people are mean. Worry about what you can control and move on.0 -
Yes. For instance, let's look at my race...Have you ever had someone scream profanities at you out their car window when you walking down the street?
Point and laugh at you when you are sitting in a chair and your fat is pointing out the sides?
Throw food at you?
Not give you job opportunities because you are fat?
What about, going with your friend to their friends house and their friend literally saying you are not allowed to enter their house because you are so fat.
I have NEVER seen ANY of this happen to a person who is a regular weight. Sorry for being so 'sensitive' though, I should have just kept my depression to myself.
That is all.
As an Asian-American living in Blacksburg during and after the VA tech shooting I've gotten much worse than just profanities yelled at me (mostly from townies, students hardly did).
I've had many things thrown at me in my life, oddly enough its from other asians (asians around here don't like "americanized" asians, plenty of times when I've been spit on or had beer/food thrown at me in parties or at the bar).
I've been discriminated against (mostly racial) plenty by ignorant people, and yes I've been declined job positions before, although I can't say for sure it was because of my race (although I've had plenty of racist managers).
That's called having a bad friend, you choose your friends I don't choose them for you.
People are more than just their weight and are judged for a variety of things other than their weight/body.
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Maybe the OP is wondering why so many people accept and/or condone treating fat people badly. It seems like hating on fat people and making assumptions about their character is totally accepted in our society.
As it happens, I think everyone has their own story. I became fat because I became depressed and I didn't care what happened to me. When I started caring about myself and my future again, I started looking for ways to lose the weight. I spent about 4 of my 37 years just shy of 200 lbs. During that time, I was treated differently than when I was 125 lbs. That is only MY story. Each person is different..
Look at it this way, If heavy people can't help it, then it's not our place to judge them.
If being heavy is a 'lifestyle choice' then again, it's not our place to judge them.
That's just my 2 cents.0 -
Yes. For instance, let's look at my race...Have you ever had someone scream profanities at you out their car window when you walking down the street?
Point and laugh at you when you are sitting in a chair and your fat is pointing out the sides?
Throw food at you?
Not give you job opportunities because you are fat?
What about, going with your friend to their friends house and their friend literally saying you are not allowed to enter their house because you are so fat.
I have NEVER seen ANY of this happen to a person who is a regular weight. Sorry for being so 'sensitive' though, I should have just kept my depression to myself.
That is all.
As an Asian-American living in Blacksburg during and after the VA tech shooting I've gotten much worse than just profanities yelled at me (mostly from townies, students hardly did).
I've had many things thrown at me in my life, oddly enough its from other asians (asians around here don't like "americanized" asians, plenty of times when I've been spit on or had beer/food thrown at me in parties or at the bar).
I've been discriminated against (mostly racial) plenty by ignorant people, and yes I've been declined job positions before, although I can't say for sure it was because of my race (although I've had plenty of racist managers).
That's called having a bad friend, you choose your friends I don't choose them for you.
People are more than just their weight and are judged for a variety of things other than their weight/body.
Got any more?
Yep, people can be racist and people are discriminated against for other reasons than weight. I am just saying comparatively there is a lot more discrimination against fat people versus people of a normal weight. The amount of abuse I copped was not just sometimes, it was every single damned day. Fat discrimination is a socially acceptable form of discrimination. Unlike racism, people justify fat discrimination with stuff like 'well, they are a burden on society' or 'they're just weak and lacking in self control therefore it's OK'.
When I was morbidly obese I had 0 friends (except for the couple of people who were not good friends), nobody wanted to be my friend because of my weight. I was constantly turned down jobs (surprise surprise, when I lost the weight my career opportunities vastly improved), I do not believe for a second this kind of **** happens regularly to slim people. Sorry.
And for the record, no matter how fat I was, I never made fun of another person for how they looked. Not once, EVER.0 -
Yes. For instance, let's look at my race...Have you ever had someone scream profanities at you out their car window when you walking down the street?
Point and laugh at you when you are sitting in a chair and your fat is pointing out the sides?
Throw food at you?
Not give you job opportunities because you are fat?
What about, going with your friend to their friends house and their friend literally saying you are not allowed to enter their house because you are so fat.
I have NEVER seen ANY of this happen to a person who is a regular weight. Sorry for being so 'sensitive' though, I should have just kept my depression to myself.
That is all.
As an Asian-American living in Blacksburg during and after the VA tech shooting I've gotten much worse than just profanities yelled at me (mostly from townies, students hardly did).
I've had many things thrown at me in my life, oddly enough its from other asians (asians around here don't like "americanized" asians, plenty of times when I've been spit on or had beer/food thrown at me in parties or at the bar).
I've been discriminated against (mostly racial) plenty by ignorant people, and yes I've been declined job positions before, although I can't say for sure it was because of my race (although I've had plenty of racist managers).
That's called having a bad friend, you choose your friends I don't choose them for you.
People are more than just their weight and are judged for a variety of things other than their weight/body.
Got any more?
Yep, people can be racist and people are discriminated against for other reasons than weight. I am just saying comparatively there is a lot more discrimination against fat people versus people of a normal weight. The amount of abuse I copped was not just sometimes, it was every single damned day. Fat discrimination is a socially acceptable form of discrimination. Unlike racism, people justify fat discrimination with stuff like 'well, they are a burden on society' or 'they're just weak and lacking in self control therefore it's OK'.
When I was morbidly obese I had 0 friends (except for the couple of people who were not good friends), nobody wanted to be my friend because of my weight. I was constantly turned down jobs (surprise surprise, when I lost the weight my career opportunities vastly improved), I do not believe for a second this kind of **** happens regularly to slim people. Sorry.
And for the record, no matter how fat I was, I never made fun of another person for how they looked. Not once, EVER.
But you just acknowledged that those things DO happen to people who are not necessarily overweight, but because of their race, age, sex, orientation,etc. These things happen very regularly to people regardless of their weight, and unfortunately many of the same arguments are used. It doesn't make it right that it happens to someone who's overweight, but it's hardly true that "daily discrimination" only occurs to overweight people.0 -
Yes. For instance, let's look at my race...Have you ever had someone scream profanities at you out their car window when you walking down the street?
Point and laugh at you when you are sitting in a chair and your fat is pointing out the sides?
Throw food at you?
Not give you job opportunities because you are fat?
What about, going with your friend to their friends house and their friend literally saying you are not allowed to enter their house because you are so fat.
I have NEVER seen ANY of this happen to a person who is a regular weight. Sorry for being so 'sensitive' though, I should have just kept my depression to myself.
That is all.
As an Asian-American living in Blacksburg during and after the VA tech shooting I've gotten much worse than just profanities yelled at me (mostly from townies, students hardly did).
I've had many things thrown at me in my life, oddly enough its from other asians (asians around here don't like "americanized" asians, plenty of times when I've been spit on or had beer/food thrown at me in parties or at the bar).
I've been discriminated against (mostly racial) plenty by ignorant people, and yes I've been declined job positions before, although I can't say for sure it was because of my race (although I've had plenty of racist managers).
That's called having a bad friend, you choose your friends I don't choose them for you.
People are more than just their weight and are judged for a variety of things other than their weight/body.
Got any more?
Yep, people can be racist and people are discriminated against for other reasons than weight. I am just saying comparatively there is a lot more discrimination against fat people versus people of a normal weight. The amount of abuse I copped was not just sometimes, it was every single damned day. Fat discrimination is a socially acceptable form of discrimination. Unlike racism, people justify fat discrimination with stuff like 'well, they are a burden on society' or 'they're just weak and lacking in self control therefore it's OK'.
When I was morbidly obese I had 0 friends (except for the couple of people who were not good friends), nobody wanted to be my friend because of my weight. I was constantly turned down jobs (surprise surprise, when I lost the weight my career opportunities vastly improved), I do not believe for a second this kind of **** happens regularly to slim people. Sorry.
And for the record, no matter how fat I was, I never made fun of another person for how they looked. Not once, EVER.
But you just acknowledged that those things DO happen to people who are not necessarily overweight, but because of their race, age, sex, orientation,etc. These things happen very regularly to people regardless of their weight, and unfortunately many of the same arguments are used. It doesn't make it right that it happens to someone who's overweight, but it's hardly true that "daily discrimination" only occurs to overweight people.
I definitely acknowledge that, for sure. But it's not a daily thing, and generally people who are of a normal weight and who are not living in a society with a lot of racism etc. do not have their looks define them. Being obese seemed to define me. Wherever I went, I wasn't just a girl or a woman, I was the fat girl or the fat woman. I have read stories about women who were slim putting on fat suits and being shocked at just how differently they were treated by people in general. People either ignore you or abuse you.0 -
Yes I'm sure you were and still are a saint...Yep, people can be racist and people are discriminated against for other reasons than weight. I am just saying comparatively there is a lot more discrimination against fat people versus people of a normal weight. The amount of abuse I copped was not just sometimes, it was every single damned day. Fat discrimination is a socially acceptable form of discrimination. Unlike racism, people justify fat discrimination with stuff like 'well, they are a burden on society' or 'they're just weak and lacking in self control therefore it's OK'.
When I was morbidly obese I had 0 friends (except for the couple of people who were not good friends), nobody wanted to be my friend because of my weight. I was constantly turned down jobs (surprise surprise, when I lost the weight my career opportunities vastly improved), I do not believe for a second this kind of **** happens regularly to slim people. Sorry.
And for the record, no matter how fat I was, I never made fun of another person for how they looked. Not once, EVER.
Fat discrimination is far from being socially acceptable nowadays, look at the Jennifer Livingston incident, people rallied (almost militantly) behind the "fat girl" against the one who called her out on her weight. Discrimination is discrimination, is your weight discrimination more important than my racial discrimination? I hear people justify racist **** all the time, "oh he can't speak [insert language here] he doesn't know what I'm saying" or "oh he's [race] that's why I can say this". People with the motive to will find any reason to bully/belittle someone else. If you're fat then they'll give you **** for being fat, if you're slim they'll give you **** for something else, point is they'll find something and say it. Surely you've met skinny people with self-esteem issues? Or skinny people who have been bullied? I'm sure you've also never heard a fat person tell a skinny girl to eat something or that REAL men like CURVES.
And don't be sorry (I'm sure you're really not anyway) it doesn't matter what you believe or not, it's the truth. You can believe all you want that a rock isn't a rock, doesn't change the rock from being a rock. It's the same thing with reality.0 -
Yes. For instance, let's look at my race...Have you ever had someone scream profanities at you out their car window when you walking down the street?
Point and laugh at you when you are sitting in a chair and your fat is pointing out the sides?
Throw food at you?
Not give you job opportunities because you are fat?
What about, going with your friend to their friends house and their friend literally saying you are not allowed to enter their house because you are so fat.
I have NEVER seen ANY of this happen to a person who is a regular weight. Sorry for being so 'sensitive' though, I should have just kept my depression to myself.
That is all.
As an Asian-American living in Blacksburg during and after the VA tech shooting I've gotten much worse than just profanities yelled at me (mostly from townies, students hardly did).
I've had many things thrown at me in my life, oddly enough its from other asians (asians around here don't like "americanized" asians, plenty of times when I've been spit on or had beer/food thrown at me in parties or at the bar).
I've been discriminated against (mostly racial) plenty by ignorant people, and yes I've been declined job positions before, although I can't say for sure it was because of my race (although I've had plenty of racist managers).
That's called having a bad friend, you choose your friends I don't choose them for you.
People are more than just their weight and are judged for a variety of things other than their weight/body.
Got any more?
Yep, people can be racist and people are discriminated against for other reasons than weight. I am just saying comparatively there is a lot more discrimination against fat people versus people of a normal weight. The amount of abuse I copped was not just sometimes, it was every single damned day. Fat discrimination is a socially acceptable form of discrimination. Unlike racism, people justify fat discrimination with stuff like 'well, they are a burden on society' or 'they're just weak and lacking in self control therefore it's OK'.
When I was morbidly obese I had 0 friends (except for the couple of people who were not good friends), nobody wanted to be my friend because of my weight. I was constantly turned down jobs (surprise surprise, when I lost the weight my career opportunities vastly improved), I do not believe for a second this kind of **** happens regularly to slim people. Sorry.
And for the record, no matter how fat I was, I never made fun of another person for how they looked. Not once, EVER.
But you just acknowledged that those things DO happen to people who are not necessarily overweight, but because of their race, age, sex, orientation,etc. These things happen very regularly to people regardless of their weight, and unfortunately many of the same arguments are used. It doesn't make it right that it happens to someone who's overweight, but it's hardly true that "daily discrimination" only occurs to overweight people.
I definitely acknowledge that, for sure. But it's not a daily thing, and generally people who are of a normal weight and who are not living in a society with a lot of racism etc. do not have their looks define them. Being obese seemed to define me. Wherever I went, I wasn't just a girl or a woman, I was the fat girl or the fat woman. I have read stories about women who were slim putting on fat suits and being shocked at just how differently they were treated by people in general. People either ignore you or abuse you.
I am trying to be incredibly positive here with you, but you can't seriously think that there's a society with no existing, LONG standing issues of race, sex, religion, etc. where people don't encounter it on a daily basis. I'm not discounting your experiences, which may have very well been daily tortures, but you can't possibly think that the looks many people have from the moment they're born don't often result in discrimination. It would be one thing to say, "I felt like this when I was obese; I felt like society treated me like this because I was obese" but it's another to say those things coupled with, "And NO other group gets this treatment daily."0 -
Yes I'm sure you were and still are a saint...Yep, people can be racist and people are discriminated against for other reasons than weight. I am just saying comparatively there is a lot more discrimination against fat people versus people of a normal weight. The amount of abuse I copped was not just sometimes, it was every single damned day. Fat discrimination is a socially acceptable form of discrimination. Unlike racism, people justify fat discrimination with stuff like 'well, they are a burden on society' or 'they're just weak and lacking in self control therefore it's OK'.
When I was morbidly obese I had 0 friends (except for the couple of people who were not good friends), nobody wanted to be my friend because of my weight. I was constantly turned down jobs (surprise surprise, when I lost the weight my career opportunities vastly improved), I do not believe for a second this kind of **** happens regularly to slim people. Sorry.
And for the record, no matter how fat I was, I never made fun of another person for how they looked. Not once, EVER.
Fat discrimination is far from being socially acceptable nowadays, look at the Jennifer Livingston incident, people rallied (almost militantly) behind the "fat girl" against the one who called her out on her weight. Discrimination is discrimination, is your weight discrimination more important than my racial discrimination? I hear people justify racist **** all the time, "oh he can't speak [insert language here] he doesn't know what I'm saying" or "oh he's [race] that's why I can say this". People with the motive to will find any reason to bully/belittle someone else. If you're fat then they'll give you **** for being fat, if you're slim they'll give you **** for something else, point is they'll find something and say it. Surely you've met skinny people with self-esteem issues? Or skinny people who have been bullied? I'm sure you've also never heard a fat person tell a skinny girl to eat something or that REAL men like CURVES.
And don't be sorry (I'm sure you're really not anyway) it doesn't matter what you believe or not, it's the truth. You can believe all you want that a rock isn't a rock, doesn't change the rock from being a rock. It's the same thing with reality.
Hey look, I never said I was a saint, I just remember how horrible I used to feel when people teased me, and how depressed I became. Why would I want to treat others in a way that I hated being treated? That's not fair.
Also, I do not get treated now the way I was treated when I was bigger. There's your proof right there. Sure it's totally anecdotal but I get treated differently now in every facet of my life. Nobody yells at me out the window anymore. I get jobs that I want. People want to be my friend. Life changed. Nobody gives me **** about anything really and I'm not very pretty and I have other flaws but I don't hear squat about them.
They have actually done studies that demonstrated that good looking people are treated better and get more opportunities than their 'less good looking' counterparts (and society has deemed fat as not good looking).
Look I'm not saying some bigger women aren't rude to slim people about their weight. I find that behaviour equally unacceptable. And yeah there's a fat acceptance movement and there are people who will fight for the right of fat people to stop facing so much discrimination but that's because they DO face discrimination.0 -
Yes. For instance, let's look at my race...Have you ever had someone scream profanities at you out their car window when you walking down the street?
Point and laugh at you when you are sitting in a chair and your fat is pointing out the sides?
Throw food at you?
Not give you job opportunities because you are fat?
What about, going with your friend to their friends house and their friend literally saying you are not allowed to enter their house because you are so fat.
I have NEVER seen ANY of this happen to a person who is a regular weight. Sorry for being so 'sensitive' though, I should have just kept my depression to myself.
That is all.
As an Asian-American living in Blacksburg during and after the VA tech shooting I've gotten much worse than just profanities yelled at me (mostly from townies, students hardly did).
I've had many things thrown at me in my life, oddly enough its from other asians (asians around here don't like "americanized" asians, plenty of times when I've been spit on or had beer/food thrown at me in parties or at the bar).
I've been discriminated against (mostly racial) plenty by ignorant people, and yes I've been declined job positions before, although I can't say for sure it was because of my race (although I've had plenty of racist managers).
That's called having a bad friend, you choose your friends I don't choose them for you.
People are more than just their weight and are judged for a variety of things other than their weight/body.
Got any more?
Yep, people can be racist and people are discriminated against for other reasons than weight. I am just saying comparatively there is a lot more discrimination against fat people versus people of a normal weight. The amount of abuse I copped was not just sometimes, it was every single damned day. Fat discrimination is a socially acceptable form of discrimination. Unlike racism, people justify fat discrimination with stuff like 'well, they are a burden on society' or 'they're just weak and lacking in self control therefore it's OK'.
When I was morbidly obese I had 0 friends (except for the couple of people who were not good friends), nobody wanted to be my friend because of my weight. I was constantly turned down jobs (surprise surprise, when I lost the weight my career opportunities vastly improved), I do not believe for a second this kind of **** happens regularly to slim people. Sorry.
And for the record, no matter how fat I was, I never made fun of another person for how they looked. Not once, EVER.
But you just acknowledged that those things DO happen to people who are not necessarily overweight, but because of their race, age, sex, orientation,etc. These things happen very regularly to people regardless of their weight, and unfortunately many of the same arguments are used. It doesn't make it right that it happens to someone who's overweight, but it's hardly true that "daily discrimination" only occurs to overweight people.
I definitely acknowledge that, for sure. But it's not a daily thing, and generally people who are of a normal weight and who are not living in a society with a lot of racism etc. do not have their looks define them. Being obese seemed to define me. Wherever I went, I wasn't just a girl or a woman, I was the fat girl or the fat woman. I have read stories about women who were slim putting on fat suits and being shocked at just how differently they were treated by people in general. People either ignore you or abuse you.
I am trying to be incredibly positive here with you, but you can't seriously think that there's a society with no existing, LONG standing issues of race, sex, religion, etc. where people don't encounter it on a daily basis. I'm not discounting your experiences, which may have very well been daily tortures, but you can't possibly think that the looks many people have from the moment they're born don't often result in discrimination. It would be one thing to say, "I felt like this when I was obese; I felt like society treated me like this because I was obese" but it's another to say those things coupled with, "And NO other group gets this treatment daily."
Errr.. can you please point to where in any of my posts did I say no other group faces discrimination? I see racism all the time, I see islamophobia, homophobia and sexism (directed to both men and women) regularly (I have participated in anti homophobia rallies for example, and regularly fight against discrimination toward racism / sexism).. but these are not socially acceptable forms of discrimination. They are generally frowned upon, whereas fat discrimination is rife and justified by people. Also, I am comparing discrimination faced by people of a normal weight vs fat people.Another poster suggested that slim people get teased and bullied by fat people more than fat people get teased and I'm sorry but that just isn't true. I've stated multiple times that I got treated differently than others when I was obese. I am no longer obese and guess what, nobody treats me that way anymore. It pretty much sums it up.
Anyway, this is getting circular and I need to get going. I can't be bothered arguing anymore, skinny people get teased more than fat people, whatever.0
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