is it worth the money to buy shakeology

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,994 Member
    Shakeology is bull****.
    Actually it's a proprietary blend of natural ingredients.................but smells like bull****.:laugh:

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  • jdooks
    jdooks Posts: 91 Member
    of course you don't NEED shakeology. no one needs ANY supplementation if they can eat clean 100% of the time. unfortunately that's literally impossible because GMOs, hormones, and antibiotics in today's food supply.
    By your logic used earlier, all Monsanto needs to do is hire some celebrities to endorse GMOs and that would prove they are good for you.

    in what world did I say that? read Shaylam's post. My clients' blood work consistently comes back better. cholesterol levels drop dramatically. those are actual results, not celebrity endorsements... and Beachbody doesn't even USE celebrity endorsements! Tony Horton is only a celebrity BECAUSE it works. hilarious.

    Yet I've achieved the same without Shakeology, have a resting hr of 67/68, and I eat McD's 3-4 times a week. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

    hey man, if you don't mind eating cow entrails and chemicals, then more power to ya!

    with that, I am done.

    we're all free to make our own choices. that's what's cool about all this. have a good one y'all. :)

    I don't mind eating entrails. Entrails are actually some of the best parts of the animal. I also eat animal brains, liver, chicken hearts, sweatbreads, intestines, stomach lining, tripe, etc.

    Still, bottom line is, none of these health benefits you are claiming can really be seen as being connected specifically to Shakeology or any BB product for that matter. I mean, take a look at P90x and Insanity, I did two full cycles of each, however, I've achieved far better results just hitting the weights and moderate running. I mean, I gained a good amount of mass doing far less work and got my hr down to a resting 67/68 with WAY less cardio. Man, I missed out on all that muscle confusion but magically it has proven to be way more effective. Just to add, I've had much better gains after I stopped monitoring my food intake as well. So that shows you that even strict meal plans have minimum benefits compared to just learning about nutrition in general.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,994 Member
    hey man, if you don't mind eating cow entrails and chemicals, then more power to ya! (and saving money by not buying into an MLM's program)

    with that, I am done.

    we're all free to make our own choices. that's what's cool about all this. have a good one y'all. :)
    There fixed it.

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  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member

    Save the lame testimonials that prove nothing except what one person believes and put up some actual data that demonstrated efficacy or be quiet. Enough with the anecdotal n=1. Prove it or go away. Anecdotes are not proof. Slow learner aren't you?

    1) we don't have to be ****s to have a discussion
    2) so... i don't get it... you don't believe that Richard Neal actually lost the weight? or that he did it w/ Beachbody products? I'm confused.

    Makes no difference what he did. He is a study of one. You totally miss the whole annecdote =/= evidence concept. Quite honestly, you are making youself look like a fool by continuing with the same lame rationales but maybe that's a good thing. Intelligent people who read this thread will likely not waste thier money on this nonsense thanks to you. So, well done?
  • MrsSardone
    MrsSardone Posts: 194 Member
    Bunch of dudes with hard bodies arguing about shakes! This was fun! No really...I'm being serious. :drinker:
  • I'll be honest, I read a few of the pages in the beginning of this thread, mostly because I'm at work and would rather explore somebody else's drama than mine right now :) I didn't read the whole thing.

    I'll be honest further and disclose that I AM a coach for Team Beachbody, and I do drink Shakeology myself.

    In response to the OP only (because I will not engage in "debates" with no possible conclusion): If it works for you, it's worth the price. If it doesn't, it isn't worth a pot to piss in. You can listen to bro logic or scientific discussions of chemical breakdown all day long (by the vested companies) and at the end of the day, it's only going to come down to this: What works for you is worth your time and effort. What doesn't, isn't. Shakeology isn't a magic pill any more than any other supplement on the market. I know people who fall asleep after taking caffeine, and I know people who get wired. Might as well ask them if caffeine is worth using for a boost, you'll get the same bullcrap spectrum of responses.

    In the perfect world, with a perfect diet, NO supplement is worth the price. Personally, when I first started in fitness, my nutrition was terrible and I knew next to nothing about nutrition. The Shakeology did help me feel better and have more energy, less cravings etc, all the stuff the advertising hoopla tries to sell you. My brother, not so much. I still drink it, he doesn't. That's fine - it's about what works for YOU. Me, who knows, maybe something in MY body reacts positively to it, maybe MY body is foolish and it's a placebo effect. Either way, I feel it so I'm still drinking *shrug*.

    I drink ON protein powder too, because I don't have time to cook leaner proteins all the time. I use a few other supplements as well, because I know the weak points in my nutrition. And I've cut out some because I felt no benefit.

    Coach argument aside, blah blah blah, here's my philosophy on taking ANY supplement: If you can't afford to WASTE the money on it, it's not worth trying. Maybe it would work for you, maybe it wouldn't... but if you can't afford to drop the price w/o concern, you aren't going to use it properly anyway, so why bother trying? Rarely will you find a supplement which works immediately, most take time (for whatever it is in that supplement your body reacts to) to build up before you feel it. I can tell you this about the Shakeology, unless your diet is VERY poor like mine was (fast food 2-3 times/day), it will not lower your food bills enough to pay for itself. It won't make you stop eating chocolate doughnuts, it won't make you stop sucking down a bottle of Vodka on Saturday nights. My food bill went down considerably and the Shakeology is an INDIRECT part of that.... the same thing would have happened had I been able to transition from garbage food to healthy without using any supplements.

    So I think what you meant by your question is: For the high price, will I REALLY benefit from Shakeology? And the answer to that is a heartfelt: Maybe. Maybe not. You might find a product considerably cheaper which will make you feel like a God. Or a beggar. I've even seen one which ultimately cost twice as much as Shakeology and was basically whey protein with a multivitamin crushed up in it, maybe that one will work like magic for you.

    Hopefully you haven't been chased away by now, and may even read or get some benefit from my opinion.

    Don't listen to bro science. Don't listen to an unknown coach either. Listen to your body, your wallet and nothing else. Because most of the science provided for supplements is crap, and so are the opinions. I'd love to hear what you DO decide to try or if you find something that works for you. Good luck!
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,994 Member
    Lol, think he broke this rule in the "Coach" agreement?

    3.30 Online Conduct
    Coaches shall be expressly prohibited from engaging in any fraudulent, harassing, offensive or any other form of prohibited conduct on or through any online or electronic forum, including without limitation through blogs, message forums, Web sites, text messages, instant messages, electronic mail, message boards, and social networking sites.

    :laugh:


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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,994 Member
    I'll be honest, I read a few of the pages in the beginning of this thread, mostly because I'm at work and would rather explore somebody else's drama than mine right now :) I didn't read the whole thing.

    I'll be honest further and disclose that I AM a coach for Team Beachbody, and I do drink Shakeology myself.

    In response to the OP only (because I will not engage in "debates" with no possible conclusion): If it works for you, it's worth the price. If it doesn't, it isn't worth a pot to piss in. You can listen to bro logic or scientific discussions of chemical breakdown all day long (by the vested companies) and at the end of the day, it's only going to come down to this: What works for you is worth your time and effort. What doesn't, isn't. Shakeology isn't a magic pill any more than any other supplement on the market. I know people who fall asleep after taking caffeine, and I know people who get wired. Might as well ask them if caffeine is worth using for a boost, you'll get the same bullcrap spectrum of responses.

    In the perfect world, with a perfect diet, NO supplement is worth the price. Personally, when I first started in fitness, my nutrition was terrible and I knew next to nothing about nutrition. The Shakeology did help me feel better and have more energy, less cravings etc, all the stuff the advertising hoopla tries to sell you. My brother, not so much. I still drink it, he doesn't. That's fine - it's about what works for YOU. Me, who knows, maybe something in MY body reacts positively to it, maybe MY body is foolish and it's a placebo effect. Either way, I feel it so I'm still drinking *shrug*.

    I drink ON protein powder too, because I don't have time to cook leaner proteins all the time. I use a few other supplements as well, because I know the weak points in my nutrition. And I've cut out some because I felt no benefit.

    Coach argument aside, blah blah blah, here's my philosophy on taking ANY supplement: If you can't afford to WASTE the money on it, it's not worth trying. Maybe it would work for you, maybe it wouldn't... but if you can't afford to drop the price w/o concern, you aren't going to use it properly anyway, so why bother trying? Rarely will you find a supplement which works immediately, most take time (for whatever it is in that supplement your body reacts to) to build up before you feel it. I can tell you this about the Shakeology, unless your diet is VERY poor like mine was (fast food 2-3 times/day), it will not lower your food bills enough to pay for itself. It won't make you stop eating chocolate doughnuts, it won't make you stop sucking down a bottle of Vodka on Saturday nights. My food bill went down considerably and the Shakeology is an INDIRECT part of that.... the same thing would have happened had I been able to transition from garbage food to healthy without using any supplements.

    So I think what you meant by your question is: For the high price, will I REALLY benefit from Shakeology? And the answer to that is a heartfelt: Maybe. Maybe not. You might find a product considerably cheaper which will make you feel like a God. Or a beggar. I've even seen one which ultimately cost twice as much as Shakeology and was basically whey protein with a multivitamin crushed up in it, maybe that one will work like magic for you.

    Hopefully you haven't been chased away by now, and may even read or get some benefit from my opinion.

    Don't listen to bro science. Don't listen to an unknown coach either. Listen to your body, your wallet and nothing else. Because most of the science provided for supplements is crap, and so are the opinions. I'd love to hear what you DO decide to try or if you find something that works for you. Good luck!
    Most insightful post that I've EVER READ from a Beach Body Coach. :drinker:

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  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    of course you don't NEED shakeology. no one needs ANY supplementation if they can eat clean 100% of the time. unfortunately that's literally impossible because GMOs, hormones, and antibiotics in today's food supply.
    By your logic used earlier, all Monsanto needs to do is hire some celebrities to endorse GMOs and that would prove they are good for you.

    in what world did I say that? read Shaylam's post. My clients' blood work consistently comes back better. cholesterol levels drop dramatically. those are actual results, not celebrity endorsements... and Beachbody doesn't even USE celebrity endorsements! Tony Horton is only a celebrity BECAUSE it works. hilarious.

    Yet I've achieved the same without Shakeology, have a resting hr of 67/68, and I eat McD's 3-4 times a week. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

    hey man, if you don't mind eating cow entrails and chemicals, then more power to ya!

    with that, I am done.

    we're all free to make our own choices. that's what's cool about all this. have a good one y'all. :)

    FYI Shakeology is full of chemicals
  • jdooks
    jdooks Posts: 91 Member
    All this shakeology blah blah blah aside. The idea that supplements rarely works is something easily debunked. Protein supplementation post-workout does indeed work. You can literally feel it the next day and even an hour after you down it post-workout. How so? Well, you will feel considerably less sore, that's one thing. Other things like beta alanine, creatine, citruline malate, those things are effective and have tangible effects (if at proper dosing). It's the sounds too good or gimmicky to be true stuff that usually falls under the "this stuff probably doesn't work or work that well" category. Scales with price too. Usually the tried and proven supplements end up being the cheaper stuff you can buy whilst the ones that are ineffective but carries miracle claiming labels to be the expensive products.
  • 4_Lisa
    4_Lisa Posts: 362 Member
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    Looks like they have divulged the proprietary blend:
    http://www.shakeology.com/the-shake/-/dl_get_file/4d404425-77b7-49c2-8b1d-983848eeaa85
    [/quote]

    It only has 16g of protein? in 170 calories? there are other ones out there with less calories and higher protein levels. and lower in sodium, and sugar all at the same time...
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    My clients' blood work consistently comes back better. cholesterol levels drop dramatically.
    Is that before or after it cures their cancer, brings their dead pets back to life, and makes them incredibly attractive to the opposite sex?
  • FredDoyle
    FredDoyle Posts: 2,273 Member
    My clients' blood work consistently comes back better. cholesterol levels drop dramatically.
    Is that before or after it cures their cancer, brings their dead pets back to life, and makes them incredibly attractive to the opposite sex?
    Ha. ...and finds that lost slipper that has been hiding behind the chaise lounge this whole time.
  • My clients' blood work consistently comes back better. cholesterol levels drop dramatically.
    Is that before or after it cures their cancer, brings their dead pets back to life, and makes them incredibly attractive to the opposite sex?
    Ha. ...and finds that lost slipper that has been hiding behind the chaise lounge this whole time.

    Ok, don't be ridiculous! The top two quotes I believe, but NOTHING will find that lost slipper! I suppose next you'll say it can find all those socks the clothes dryer eats?? <-- Skeptical.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    You must not visit the Philippines, Vietnam, Singapore, etc. much. SPAM is a staple in Asia!! Yes, I am Asian and was there 2 years ago, so unless they changed everything in 2 years, your assumption is wrong. There are tons of processed foods in Asia. So why no issue with weight? Because of portion control.:laugh:

    And the China Study? Lol, you're influenced by some shoddy research bud.

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    had to come back to post this: http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/09/health/international-health-report/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

    We in the US have shorter life expectancies than 27 other countries.

    " "The tragedy is not that the United States is losing a contest with other countries," the report states, "but that Americans are dying and suffering from illness and injury at rates that are demonstrably unnecessary."

    The report outlines nine health areas where the United States lags behind other rich nations, including infant mortality, homicides, teen pregnancy, drug-related deaths, obesity and disabilities.

    Americans have the highest prevalence of AIDS in the group. Seniors are at a greater risk of developing and dying from heart disease. And our children are less likely than children in peer countries to reach their fifth birthday."
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,994 Member
    You must not visit the Philippines, Vietnam, Singapore, etc. much. SPAM is a staple in Asia!! Yes, I am Asian and was there 2 years ago, so unless they changed everything in 2 years, your assumption is wrong. There are tons of processed foods in Asia. So why no issue with weight? Because of portion control.:laugh:

    And the China Study? Lol, you're influenced by some shoddy research bud.

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    had to come back to post this: http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/09/health/international-health-report/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

    We in the US have shorter life expectancies than 27 other countries.

    " "The tragedy is not that the United States is losing a contest with other countries," the report states, "but that Americans are dying and suffering from illness and injury at rates that are demonstrably unnecessary."

    The report outlines nine health areas where the United States lags behind other rich nations, including infant mortality, homicides, teen pregnancy, drug-related deaths, obesity and disabilities.

    Americans have the highest prevalence of AIDS in the group. Seniors are at a greater risk of developing and dying from heart disease. And our children are less likely than children in peer countries to reach their fifth birthday."
    Lol, what's your point? That drinking Shakeology will lower the risk of AIDS, homicide, infant mortality, drug use, and teen pregnancy?:laugh:

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  • TheConsciousFoody
    TheConsciousFoody Posts: 607 Member
    To each their own.

    I drink shakeology. I enjoy it. I can afford it. I have no interest in other products because I have seen the results for MYSELF. It works for me and i stick with what works. I'm not a beach body coach nor do I want to ever be one. However, I won't go on some nerd rage because somebody likes and is passionate about a different product.

    The level of hate on this site is beyond disgusting.
  • IronSmasher
    IronSmasher Posts: 3,908 Member
    Nope.
  • Rayman79
    Rayman79 Posts: 2,009 Member
    Whenever I see a BB Coach defending their products I can't help but get this image in my head

    I LOVE THE LEADER!
    simpsonsgood31.jpg

    AS A SIDE NOTE, this is my take on every conversation with a BB coach ever:

    Do you have any proof or peer reviewed studies to substantiate the claims made of BB products: uuummmm, no.

    Given that you made a host of lifestyle and diet changes at the same time as starting on the shakes, isn't it more reasonable to attribute most of the results to this? Well sure, some of the results, but the shake is just awesome, I know it in my bones!

    Isn't it an excuse to charge a heap of people a ridiculous premium for an average protein shake with some cheap supps tossed in? Of course not, its a super secret special blend of awesomesauceness!!

    Don't you think it's counterproductive and ethically questionable to put people on a program that requires the ongoing purchase of a product that keeps them on a low cal diet while actively avoiding the biggest hurdle most people have to making a successful lifestyle change, learning how to eat a sensible calorie controlled diet: umm, well... shut up!

    end scene.
  • Skatduder
    Skatduder Posts: 4 Member
    This seems to work well with people in Japan, Canada and other places that offer free heathcare.
    And you gotta be naive if you think that a supplement company wants you perfectly healthy and not needing their products.:laugh: Your altruism is to Beach Body.

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    People in Japan and China don't eat as badly as Americans do. Red meat, processed foods, etc are not NEARLY as prevalent in the East.

    Read The China Study before saying things of which you know not. :P
    You must not visit the Philippines, Vietnam, Singapore, etc. much. SPAM is a staple in Asia!! Yes, I am Asian and was there 2 years ago, so unless they changed everything in 2 years, your assumption is wrong. There are tons of processed foods in Asia. So why no issue with weight? Because of portion control.:laugh:

    And the China Study? Lol, you're influenced by some shoddy research bud.

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    Now that is funny.. I visit the Philippines and Thailand twice a year.. Very popular fast food places, Jollybee, KFC, Kenny Rogers they all sell a variety of chicken.. its deep fried so I kring when I go there.. and the piece of chicken you get is so so small.. you get like a breast of a robin.. tiny.. there is no way I can fuel my workouts there.. I find that I'm eating everything down to the bone like the locals..
    The western world does not know about portion control. That's why were on MFP .. well unless your a BB coach..
  • TheConsciousFoody
    TheConsciousFoody Posts: 607 Member
    Whenever I see a BB Coach defending their products I can't help but get this image in my head

    I LOVE THE LEADER!
    simpsonsgood31.jpg

    AS A SIDE NOTE, this is my take on every conversation with a BB coach ever:

    Do you have any proof or peer reviewed studies to substantiate the claims made of BB products: uuummmm, no.

    Given that you made a host of lifestyle and diet changes at the same time as starting on the shakes, isn't it more reasonable to attribute most of the results to this? Well sure, some of the results, but the shake is just awesome, I know it in my bones!

    Isn't it an excuse to charge a heap of people a ridiculous premium for an average protein shake with some cheap supps tossed in? Of course not, its a super secret special blend of awesomesauceness!!

    Don't you think it's counterproductive and ethically questionable to put people on a program that requires the ongoing purchase of a product that keeps them on a low cal diet while actively avoiding the biggest hurdle most people have to making a successful lifestyle change, learning how to eat a sensible calorie controlled diet: umm, well... shut up!

    end scene.

    FYI, I have yet been told by any BB coach that I have to stay on some program where I am "required" to continue to buy shakeology nor have they ever reccomended a low calorie diet. Seems like a bit of a reach.
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    To each their own.

    I drink shakeology. I enjoy it. I can afford it. I have no interest in other products because I have seen the results for MYSELF. It works for me and i stick with what works. I'm not a beach body coach nor do I want to ever be one. However, I won't go on some nerd rage because somebody likes and is passionate about a different product.

    The level of hate on this site is beyond disgusting.
    Refuting superstition and advocating real science is not hate or rage.
  • Italianyc84
    Italianyc84 Posts: 192 Member
    Is Shakeology like Isagenix? I have a friend who is constantly pushing the stuff...I briefly considered it but then looked at the nutritional profile--it's nothing but protein powder! I already use a fairly high quality protein powder (Optimum Nutrition), no need to spend $100's of dollars each month on it.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,994 Member
    Is Shakeology like Isagenix? I have a friend who is constantly pushing the stuff...I briefly considered it but then looked at the nutritional profile--it's nothing but protein powder! I already use a fairly high quality protein powder (Optimum Nutrition), no need to spend $100's of dollars each month on it.
    Stick with ON. You're assured by them that you have a product that is manufactured by their own company and it's cost is fair for a very good quality. I personally use 100% Gold Standard Whey and Nitrocore 24.

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  • jdooks
    jdooks Posts: 91 Member
    You must not visit the Philippines, Vietnam, Singapore, etc. much. SPAM is a staple in Asia!! Yes, I am Asian and was there 2 years ago, so unless they changed everything in 2 years, your assumption is wrong. There are tons of processed foods in Asia. So why no issue with weight? Because of portion control.:laugh:

    And the China Study? Lol, you're influenced by some shoddy research bud.

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    had to come back to post this: http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/09/health/international-health-report/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

    We in the US have shorter life expectancies than 27 other countries.

    " "The tragedy is not that the United States is losing a contest with other countries," the report states, "but that Americans are dying and suffering from illness and injury at rates that are demonstrably unnecessary."

    The report outlines nine health areas where the United States lags behind other rich nations, including infant mortality, homicides, teen pregnancy, drug-related deaths, obesity and disabilities.

    Americans have the highest prevalence of AIDS in the group. Seniors are at a greater risk of developing and dying from heart disease. And our children are less likely than children in peer countries to reach their fifth birthday."

    Yeah, and in most of the rest of the world, you don't have droves of people believing in a bullpoop, overpriced, underdosed supplement like Shakeology or believe that "muscle confusion" is actually some new innovation (it's not, it's exercise 101, intensity needs to increase regular to make gains). In most other countries we also don't have droves of people that would DEMAND to get xrays or catscans even if the doctor themselves don't feel like the patient needs it but will administer the exams just so that the patients can not sue later down the line for something which is completely unrelated using a ambulance chasing attorney which have become way to prevalent in the USA.

    Want people to be healthier? First thing you should do is stop going around trying to make Shakeology out like some miracle elixir when you nor BB can answer a simple yes or no question such as: for the health claims being made, what are the clinically studied and peer reviewed studies on the active ingredients used for such health claims along with the minimum effective dose and is there a minimum effective dose of these clinically studied peer reviewed active ingredients in each serving of Shakeology. You can't even answer that simple yes or no question and all you've been doing is saying "I feel better from it." What you "feel" from a product is purely subjective and is the equivalent of people believing things like vitamin c boosting the immune and fighting colds (it does not, if anything, it improves the integrity of the nerve endings in the body as well as help keep the brain healthy, but it does nothing for physical recovery and the immune system, this is proven scientific fact). I mean, alcoholics need alcohol to feel good, doesn't mean that it's providing health benefits.

    I mean, you are linking these health issues without making a distinction between cause or correlation. It's ridiculous. It's as ridiculous and nonsensical as all the fear towards high fructose corn syrup. High fructose corn syrup is actually not any worse for you than plain old sugar used for coffee or baking (this has been scientifically PROVEN). The whole fight against sodas due to high fructose corn syrup, that thing has been going on since the days Coke used PURE CANE SUGAR. People are simply placing blame on high fructose corn syrup because that is the preferred form of sugar companies use now but again, the fight against soda was started back when Coke was using only PURE CANE SUGAR.

    I honestly FEAR for the health of your clients because it appears that they are being coached/trained by a person with next to ZERO knowledge on even the BASICS of nutrition.
  • jdooks
    jdooks Posts: 91 Member
    Is Shakeology like Isagenix? I have a friend who is constantly pushing the stuff...I briefly considered it but then looked at the nutritional profile--it's nothing but protein powder! I already use a fairly high quality protein powder (Optimum Nutrition), no need to spend $100's of dollars each month on it.
    Stick with ON. You're assured by them that you have a product that is manufactured by their own company and it's cost is fair for a very good quality. I personally use 100% Gold Standard Whey and Nitrocore 24.

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    I personally prefer their Pro Complex. I find it to have a better balance of aminos and having a second source of protein in there is great (the tin says 8 sources of protein, but Pro Complex really just contains whey and egg protein). For something with an even better aminos profile, I also take Monster Milk (which also eliminates the need to throw in a scoop of creatine with my shakes) but Monster Milk tastes terrible. Syntha-6 is also very good if you are not concerned about an extra 50 calories per serving relative to the same amount of protein as the serving sizes of the other powders (I usually take around 50g of protein per shake, 2 shakes a day, they come out to be around 300 calories per shake, for the same amount of protein with Syntha-6, you're looking at 400 calories per shake for 50g of protein per shake).

    But all in all, if people bothered to read the labels on these quality protein powders, they will find that if they took just the shakes alone once a day along with a quality multi-vitamin, it both comes out FAR CHEAPER than Shakeology and with a FAR SUPERIOR nutritional profile AND these protein powders usually tastes FAR BETTER than Shakeology (I've had two samples of choc and greenberry Shakeology, TERRIBLE, it makes Monster Milk taste good and Monster Milk is actually quite disgusting tasting). If you want to also keep yourself full for hours with the protein shake, either add some fiber to the shake OR eat a slice of quality whole grain bread.

    Mind you, before someone comes on here saying how bad Monster Milk is, Monster Milk is a different product from the far inferior Muscle Milk (which is just full of fat and sugars with not a lot of protein).
  • Liberty_7728
    Liberty_7728 Posts: 51 Member
    If you plan to live on shakes then it might be worth it, but if you plan to learn how to function and live in the real world where there is food to eat then I would recommend learning to use the tools you have at home. Making chicken and fresh steamed asparagus with mashed sweet potatoes will probably give you more pleasure than a shake.
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    High fructose corn syrup is actually not any worse for you than plain old sugar used for coffee or baking (this has been scientifically PROVEN).
    Do you have a citation/link for this?
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,994 Member
    High fructose corn syrup is actually not any worse for you than plain old sugar used for coffee or baking (this has been scientifically PROVEN).
    Do you have a citation/link for this?
    Actual peer reviewed studies:

    American Dietetic Association. Use of nutritive and nonnutritive sweeteners. Journal of the American Dietetic Association. 2004. 104:255-275.

    American Medical Association. Report 3 of the Council on Science and Public Health. The health effects of high fructose syrup. July 23, 2009.

    American Medical Association. AMA finds high fructose syrup unlikely to be more harmful to health than other calorie sweeteners. American Medical Association Press Release. June 19, 2008.

    Forshee RA, Storey ML, Allison DB, Glinsmann WH, Hein GL, Lineback DR, Miller SA, Nicklas TA, Weaver GA, White JS. 2007. A critical examination of the evidence relating high fructose corn syrup and weight gain. Critical Review Food Science Nutrition. 47(6):561-82.

    Melanson KJ, Angelopoulos TJ, Nguyen V, Zukley L, Lowndes J, Rippe JM. Dec. 2008. High-fructose corn syrup, energy intake, and appetite regulation. American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. 88(6):1738S-1744S.

    Soenen S, Westerterp-Plantenga MS. Dec. 2007. No differences in satiety or energy intake after high-fructose corn syrup, sucrose, or milk preloads. American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. 86(6):1586-94.

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  • e2track
    e2track Posts: 12 Member
    What I know for a fact is that it is disgusting... If you contacy beachbody they will give you a free pack for trial purposes. Long story short, I still have most of it.
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