is it worth the money to buy shakeology

of course you don't NEED shakeology. no one needs ANY supplementation if they can eat clean 100% of the time. unfortunately that's literally impossible because GMOs, hormones, and antibiotics in today's food supply.

By your logic used earlier, all Monsanto needs to do is hire some celebrities to endorse GMOs and that would prove they are good for you.

in what world did I say that? read Shaylam's post. My clients' blood work consistently comes back better. cholesterol levels drop dramatically. those are actual results, not celebrity endorsements... and Beachbody doesn't even USE celebrity endorsements! Tony Horton is only a celebrity BECAUSE it works. hilarious.

Yet I've achieved the same without Shakeology, have a resting hr of 67/68, and I eat McD's 3-4 times a week. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

hey man, if you don't mind eating cow entrails and chemicals, then more power to ya!

with that, I am done.

we're all free to make our own choices. that's what's cool about all this. have a good one y'all.

I don't mind eating entrails. Entrails are actually some of the best parts of the animal. I also eat animal brains, liver, chicken hearts, sweatbreads, intestines, stomach lining, tripe, etc.

Still, bottom line is, none of these health benefits you are claiming can really be seen as being connected specifically to Shakeology or any BB product for that matter. I mean, take a look at P90x and Insanity, I did two full cycles of each, however, I've achieved far better results just hitting the weights and moderate running. I mean, I gained a good amount of mass doing far less work and got my hr down to a resting 67/68 with WAY less cardio. Man, I missed out on all that muscle confusion but magically it has proven to be way more effective. Just to add, I've had much better gains after I stopped monitoring my food intake as well. So that shows you that even strict meal plans have minimum benefits compared to just learning about nutrition in general.

Save the lame testimonials that prove nothing except what one person believes and put up some actual data that demonstrated efficacy or be quiet. Enough with the anecdotal n=1. Prove it or go away. Anecdotes are not proof. Slow learner aren't you?

1) we don't have to be ****s to have a discussion
2) so... i don't get it... you don't believe that Richard Neal actually lost the weight? or that he did it w/ Beachbody products? I'm confused.

Makes no difference what he did. He is a study of one. You totally miss the whole annecdote =/= evidence concept. Quite honestly, you are making youself look like a fool by continuing with the same lame rationales but maybe that's a good thing. Intelligent people who read this thread will likely not waste thier money on this nonsense thanks to you. So, well done?

I'll be honest, I read a few of the pages in the beginning of this thread, mostly because I'm at work and would rather explore somebody else's drama than mine right now I didn't read the whole thing.

I'll be honest further and disclose that I AM a coach for Team Beachbody, and I do drink Shakeology myself.

In response to the OP only (because I will not engage in "debates" with no possible conclusion): If it works for you, it's worth the price. If it doesn't, it isn't worth a pot to piss in. You can listen to bro logic or scientific discussions of chemical breakdown all day long (by the vested companies) and at the end of the day, it's only going to come down to this: What works for you is worth your time and effort. What doesn't, isn't. Shakeology isn't a magic pill any more than any other supplement on the market. I know people who fall asleep after taking caffeine, and I know people who get wired. Might as well ask them if caffeine is worth using for a boost, you'll get the same bullcrap spectrum of responses.

In the perfect world, with a perfect diet, NO supplement is worth the price. Personally, when I first started in fitness, my nutrition was terrible and I knew next to nothing about nutrition. The Shakeology did help me feel better and have more energy, less cravings etc, all the stuff the advertising hoopla tries to sell you. My brother, not so much. I still drink it, he doesn't. That's fine - it's about what works for YOU. Me, who knows, maybe something in MY body reacts positively to it, maybe MY body is foolish and it's a placebo effect. Either way, I feel it so I'm still drinking *shrug*.

I drink ON protein powder too, because I don't have time to cook leaner proteins all the time. I use a few other supplements as well, because I know the weak points in my nutrition. And I've cut out some because I felt no benefit.

Coach argument aside, blah blah blah, here's my philosophy on taking ANY supplement: If you can't afford to WASTE the money on it, it's not worth trying. Maybe it would work for you, maybe it wouldn't... but if you can't afford to drop the price w/o concern, you aren't going to use it properly anyway, so why bother trying? Rarely will you find a supplement which works immediately, most take time (for whatever it is in that supplement your body reacts to) to build up before you feel it. I can tell you this about the Shakeology, unless your diet is VERY poor like mine was (fast food 2-3 times/day), it will not lower your food bills enough to pay for itself. It won't make you stop eating chocolate doughnuts, it won't make you stop sucking down a bottle of Vodka on Saturday nights. My food bill went down considerably and the Shakeology is an INDIRECT part of that.... the same thing would have happened had I been able to transition from garbage food to healthy without using any supplements.

So I think what you meant by your question is: For the high price, will I REALLY benefit from Shakeology? And the answer to that is a heartfelt: Maybe. Maybe not. You might find a product considerably cheaper which will make you feel like a God. Or a beggar. I've even seen one which ultimately cost twice as much as Shakeology and was basically whey protein with a multivitamin crushed up in it, maybe that one will work like magic for you.

Hopefully you haven't been chased away by now, and may even read or get some benefit from my opinion.

Don't listen to bro science. Don't listen to an unknown coach either. Listen to your body, your wallet and nothing else. Because most of the science provided for supplements is crap, and so are the opinions. I'd love to hear what you DO decide to try or if you find something that works for you. Good luck!

I'll be honest, I read a few of the pages in the beginning of this thread, mostly because I'm at work and would rather explore somebody else's drama than mine right now I didn't read the whole thing.

I'll be honest further and disclose that I AM a coach for Team Beachbody, and I do drink Shakeology myself.

In response to the OP only (because I will not engage in "debates" with no possible conclusion): If it works for you, it's worth the price. If it doesn't, it isn't worth a pot to piss in. You can listen to bro logic or scientific discussions of chemical breakdown all day long (by the vested companies) and at the end of the day, it's only going to come down to this: What works for you is worth your time and effort. What doesn't, isn't. Shakeology isn't a magic pill any more than any other supplement on the market. I know people who fall asleep after taking caffeine, and I know people who get wired. Might as well ask them if caffeine is worth using for a boost, you'll get the same bullcrap spectrum of responses.

In the perfect world, with a perfect diet, NO supplement is worth the price. Personally, when I first started in fitness, my nutrition was terrible and I knew next to nothing about nutrition. The Shakeology did help me feel better and have more energy, less cravings etc, all the stuff the advertising hoopla tries to sell you. My brother, not so much. I still drink it, he doesn't. That's fine - it's about what works for YOU. Me, who knows, maybe something in MY body reacts positively to it, maybe MY body is foolish and it's a placebo effect. Either way, I feel it so I'm still drinking *shrug*.

I drink ON protein powder too, because I don't have time to cook leaner proteins all the time. I use a few other supplements as well, because I know the weak points in my nutrition. And I've cut out some because I felt no benefit.

Coach argument aside, blah blah blah, here's my philosophy on taking ANY supplement: If you can't afford to WASTE the money on it, it's not worth trying. Maybe it would work for you, maybe it wouldn't... but if you can't afford to drop the price w/o concern, you aren't going to use it properly anyway, so why bother trying? Rarely will you find a supplement which works immediately, most take time (for whatever it is in that supplement your body reacts to) to build up before you feel it. I can tell you this about the Shakeology, unless your diet is VERY poor like mine was (fast food 2-3 times/day), it will not lower your food bills enough to pay for itself. It won't make you stop eating chocolate doughnuts, it won't make you stop sucking down a bottle of Vodka on Saturday nights. My food bill went down considerably and the Shakeology is an INDIRECT part of that.... the same thing would have happened had I been able to transition from garbage food to healthy without using any supplements.

So I think what you meant by your question is: For the high price, will I REALLY benefit from Shakeology? And the answer to that is a heartfelt: Maybe. Maybe not. You might find a product considerably cheaper which will make you feel like a God. Or a beggar. I've even seen one which ultimately cost twice as much as Shakeology and was basically whey protein with a multivitamin crushed up in it, maybe that one will work like magic for you.

Hopefully you haven't been chased away by now, and may even read or get some benefit from my opinion.

Don't listen to bro science. Don't listen to an unknown coach either. Listen to your body, your wallet and nothing else. Because most of the science provided for supplements is crap, and so are the opinions. I'd love to hear what you DO decide to try or if you find something that works for you. Good luck!

Most insightful post that I've EVER READ from a Beach Body Coach. :drinker:

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All this shakeology blah blah blah aside. The idea that supplements rarely works is something easily debunked. Protein supplementation post-workout does indeed work. You can literally feel it the next day and even an hour after you down it post-workout. How so? Well, you will feel considerably less sore, that's one thing. Other things like beta alanine, creatine, citruline malate, those things are effective and have tangible effects (if at proper dosing). It's the sounds too good or gimmicky to be true stuff that usually falls under the "this stuff probably doesn't work or work that well" category. Scales with price too. Usually the tried and proven supplements end up being the cheaper stuff you can buy whilst the ones that are ineffective but carries miracle claiming labels to be the expensive products.

My clients' blood work consistently comes back better. cholesterol levels drop dramatically.

Is that before or after it cures their cancer, brings their dead pets back to life, and makes them incredibly attractive to the opposite sex?

My clients' blood work consistently comes back better. cholesterol levels drop dramatically.

Is that before or after it cures their cancer, brings their dead pets back to life, and makes them incredibly attractive to the opposite sex?

Ha. ...and finds that lost slipper that has been hiding behind the chaise lounge this whole time.

Ok, don't be ridiculous! The top two quotes I believe, but NOTHING will find that lost slipper! I suppose next you'll say it can find all those socks the clothes dryer eats?? <-- Skeptical.

You must not visit the Philippines, Vietnam, Singapore, etc. much. SPAM is a staple in Asia!! Yes, I am Asian and was there 2 years ago, so unless they changed everything in 2 years, your assumption is wrong. There are tons of processed foods in Asia. So why no issue with weight? Because of portion control.:laugh:

And the China Study? Lol, you're influenced by some shoddy research bud.

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had to come back to post this: http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/09/health/international-health-report/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

We in the US have shorter life expectancies than 27 other countries.

" "The tragedy is not that the United States is losing a contest with other countries," the report states, "but that Americans are dying and suffering from illness and injury at rates that are demonstrably unnecessary."

The report outlines nine health areas where the United States lags behind other rich nations, including infant mortality, homicides, teen pregnancy, drug-related deaths, obesity and disabilities.

Americans have the highest prevalence of AIDS in the group. Seniors are at a greater risk of developing and dying from heart disease. And our children are less likely than children in peer countries to reach their fifth birthday."

Lol, what's your point? That drinking Shakeology will lower the risk of AIDS, homicide, infant mortality, drug use, and teen pregnancy?:laugh:

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Nope.

This seems to work well with people in Japan, Canada and other places that offer free heathcare.
And you gotta be naive if you think that a supplement company wants you perfectly healthy and not needing their products.:laugh: Your altruism is to Beach Body.

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People in Japan and China don't eat as badly as Americans do. Red meat, processed foods, etc are not NEARLY as prevalent in the East.

Read The China Study before saying things of which you know not. :P

You must not visit the Philippines, Vietnam, Singapore, etc. much. SPAM is a staple in Asia!! Yes, I am Asian and was there 2 years ago, so unless they changed everything in 2 years, your assumption is wrong. There are tons of processed foods in Asia. So why no issue with weight? Because of portion control.:laugh:

And the China Study? Lol, you're influenced by some shoddy research bud.

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Now that is funny.. I visit the Philippines and Thailand twice a year.. Very popular fast food places, Jollybee, KFC, Kenny Rogers they all sell a variety of chicken.. its deep fried so I kring when I go there.. and the piece of chicken you get is so so small.. you get like a breast of a robin.. tiny.. there is no way I can fuel my workouts there.. I find that I'm eating everything down to the bone like the locals..
The western world does not know about portion control. That's why were on MFP .. well unless your a BB coach..

To each their own.

I drink shakeology. I enjoy it. I can afford it. I have no interest in other products because I have seen the results for MYSELF. It works for me and i stick with what works. I'm not a beach body coach nor do I want to ever be one. However, I won't go on some nerd rage because somebody likes and is passionate about a different product.

The level of hate on this site is beyond disgusting.

Refuting superstition and advocating real science is not hate or rage.

Is Shakeology like Isagenix? I have a friend who is constantly pushing the stuff...I briefly considered it but then looked at the nutritional profile--it's nothing but protein powder! I already use a fairly high quality protein powder (Optimum Nutrition), no need to spend $100's of dollars each month on it.

Stick with ON. You're assured by them that you have a product that is manufactured by their own company and it's cost is fair for a very good quality. I personally use 100% Gold Standard Whey and Nitrocore 24.

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Is Shakeology like Isagenix? I have a friend who is constantly pushing the stuff...I briefly considered it but then looked at the nutritional profile--it's nothing but protein powder! I already use a fairly high quality protein powder (Optimum Nutrition), no need to spend $100's of dollars each month on it.

Stick with ON. You're assured by them that you have a product that is manufactured by their own company and it's cost is fair for a very good quality. I personally use 100% Gold Standard Whey and Nitrocore 24.

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I personally prefer their Pro Complex. I find it to have a better balance of aminos and having a second source of protein in there is great (the tin says 8 sources of protein, but Pro Complex really just contains whey and egg protein). For something with an even better aminos profile, I also take Monster Milk (which also eliminates the need to throw in a scoop of creatine with my shakes) but Monster Milk tastes terrible. Syntha-6 is also very good if you are not concerned about an extra 50 calories per serving relative to the same amount of protein as the serving sizes of the other powders (I usually take around 50g of protein per shake, 2 shakes a day, they come out to be around 300 calories per shake, for the same amount of protein with Syntha-6, you're looking at 400 calories per shake for 50g of protein per shake).

But all in all, if people bothered to read the labels on these quality protein powders, they will find that if they took just the shakes alone once a day along with a quality multi-vitamin, it both comes out FAR CHEAPER than Shakeology and with a FAR SUPERIOR nutritional profile AND these protein powders usually tastes FAR BETTER than Shakeology (I've had two samples of choc and greenberry Shakeology, TERRIBLE, it makes Monster Milk taste good and Monster Milk is actually quite disgusting tasting). If you want to also keep yourself full for hours with the protein shake, either add some fiber to the shake OR eat a slice of quality whole grain bread.

Mind you, before someone comes on here saying how bad Monster Milk is, Monster Milk is a different product from the far inferior Muscle Milk (which is just full of fat and sugars with not a lot of protein).

High fructose corn syrup is actually not any worse for you than plain old sugar used for coffee or baking (this has been scientifically PROVEN).

Do you have a citation/link for this?

What I know for a fact is that it is disgusting... If you contacy beachbody they will give you a free pack for trial purposes. Long story short, I still have most of it.