Father brings his daughter into the men's locker room
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No, no, no, no. A body isn't just a body to a 4 year old, especially a 4 year old girl seeing balls and penises swinging around. Just because YOU don't think it's a big deal doesn't mean you should put your kid in that situation not knowing if it will traumatize them or not. Maybe you should just plan ahead instead of finding yourself in a bad situation like that and acting out of desperation.
A child will only be traumatized if their parents shelter them from nudity or tell them that being naked is bad.......Maybe parents need to educate their children before such situations occur. I'm sure there are cutesy children's books that can do that.
As evidenced by the array of responses & reactions in this thread, each person is different, regardless of whether their parents told them nudity is icky or not. What I'm saying is that parents should not assume their 4 year olds can handle seeing dangling adult genitalia just because they think that their 4 year old selves could have. That's my opinion.0 -
Dude was out of line if there were other options. Some perspective...
My mom was a nurse and at my house we were very frank about body parts. We didn't do the "down there" or funny names thing. They were vaginas and penises. I knew what they were at a very young age.
BUT.
I didn't see any that belonged to people I didn't know. I saw my brother naked when we were both little kids and that was about it. I never even saw my own parents. I do think it is inappropriate for little kids to be in a situation where they will see STRANGERS naked. It's not about thinking bodies are "gross" but rather that there are some parts of our bodies that we usually keep to ourselves and people we can trust. Penises and vaginas are body parts yes, but they are also sexual organs. Sexuality is natural also, but still private. If you want to be smug about how nonchalant you are about body parts, then by all means walk naked into a grocery store and and allow others to do the same...and don't you dare say a word! It's just like elbows or nostrils!
Except it's not.
Hmmm....I am of the "no biggie" camp but I understand this argument. I do tell my son that his penis is a "private part" and that's why they are kept private.0 -
This whole thread seems a tad hypocritical. If a 4 year old boy was brought into the women's locker room, no one would be throwing a fit like they are now.
Actually, that thread went 13 pages back in November or December. A boy was in the changing area of the local swimming pool. Reaction was just as overblown as this
Edited to add: i was off. It only went 3 pages, so this one is a bigger deal.
www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/832441-gym-at-hotel-with-pool-and-children-in-changing-rooms?hl=boy+swimming+changing+room0 -
Also, I'd like to point out that if it was a woman bringing her 4 year old son into a women's locker room, there wouldn't be nearly as large of an uproar.
That's a good point. Here's a post that was made about a 10 y/o boy in the women's changing room. No one really brought porn into it except my opinion that the OP insinuated that the kid was the one that was a creeper.
Overall - this topic was pretty tame compared to this one.
ETA link: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/832441-gym-at-hotel-with-pool-and-children-in-changing-rooms?hl=boy+in+the+gym0 -
No, no, no, no. A body isn't just a body to a 4 year old, especially a 4 year old girl seeing balls and penises swinging around. Just because YOU don't think it's a big deal doesn't mean you should put your kid in that situation not knowing if it will traumatize them or not. Maybe you should just plan ahead instead of finding yourself in a bad situation like that and acting out of desperation.
A child will only be traumatized if their parents shelter them from nudity or tell them that being naked is bad.......Maybe parents need to educate their children before such situations occur. I'm sure there are cutesy children's books that can do that.
As evidenced by the array of responses & reactions in this thread, each person is different, regardless of whether their parents told them nudity is icky or not. What I'm saying is that parents should not assume their 4 year olds can handle seeing dangling adult genitalia just because they think that their 4 year old selves could have. That's my opinion.
Your kids probably not. Mind are good. Thank you very much. And you and your type, stay away from my kids.0 -
BIG difference between 10 and 4. HUGE. I would understand and issue with a 10 year old being in the changing room.Also, I'd like to point out that if it was a woman bringing her 4 year old son into a women's locker room, there wouldn't be nearly as large of an uproar.
That's a good point. Here's a post that was made about a 10 y/o boy in the women's changing room. No one really brought porn into it except my opinion that the OP insinuated that the kid was the one that was a creeper.
Overall - this topic was pretty tame compared to this one.0 -
BIG difference between 10 and 4. HUGE. I would understand and issue with a 10 year old being in the changing room.Also, I'd like to point out that if it was a woman bringing her 4 year old son into a women's locker room, there wouldn't be nearly as large of an uproar.
That's a good point. Here's a post that was made about a 10 y/o boy in the women's changing room. No one really brought porn into it except my opinion that the OP insinuated that the kid was the one that was a creeper.
Overall - this topic was pretty tame compared to this one.
Well, just brought it up to point out the difference in reactions as an example to what you were talking about.
ETA link: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/832441-gym-at-hotel-with-pool-and-children-in-changing-rooms?hl=boy+in+the+gym
I added it in my first post but you quoted before I submitted .. lol...just in case anyone wanted to read it
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If u have family locker rooms at your gym/ymca and he didnt use them he should be reported to the staff. Unacceptable. Any gym where kids are allowed should have them. I understand taking a child of the opposite sex into a restroom if you have to in public, considering I wouldn't let a kid use the restroom at a ballgame or the mall unattended. But a locker room where people are naked? Inappropriate.
At my ymca there are family locker rooms available but the womens locker room is ok for kids something like 5 & under (possibly a bit older, idk. I dont have kids) I saw a woman with a boy about kindergarten age in there and I tried to dress as quickly as possible while hiding behind a towel while he stared at me. If he was really young enough that his presence isn't a big deal then why was he gawking? At 5 or 6 he was old enough to notice differences and be curious about them. So unless a kid is under 3 yrs I think they belong in family locker rooms.0 -
BIG difference between 10 and 4. HUGE. I would understand and issue with a 10 year old being in the changing room.Also, I'd like to point out that if it was a woman bringing her 4 year old son into a women's locker room, there wouldn't be nearly as large of an uproar.
That's a good point. Here's a post that was made about a 10 y/o boy in the women's changing room. No one really brought porn into it except my opinion that the OP insinuated that the kid was the one that was a creeper.
Overall - this topic was pretty tame compared to this one.
Agreed. 10 is on the verge of puberty. HUGE difference!0 -
I feel uncomfortable in the locker room even on my own... so throw a child in the mix and you just turned an awkward watering hole into a too muchery incident.0
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Completely unacceptable! If he is using the day care in the gym, he should do what he needs to do before picking her up. If she is working out, too, then she should go in the women's room by her self if she is old enough, OR have a female staff member go in with her. I would say that if she is 12 years or older, then maybe a female staff member can show her around the locker room and what do in to there (how to get a lockers, etc) so the girl can do it herself.0
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No, no, no, no. A body isn't just a body to a 4 year old, especially a 4 year old girl seeing balls and penises swinging around. Just because YOU don't think it's a big deal doesn't mean you should put your kid in that situation not knowing if it will traumatize them or not. Maybe you should just plan ahead instead of finding yourself in a bad situation like that and acting out of desperation.
A child will only be traumatized if their parents shelter them from nudity or tell them that being naked is bad.......Maybe parents need to educate their children before such situations occur. I'm sure there are cutesy children's books that can do that.
As evidenced by the array of responses & reactions in this thread, each person is different, regardless of whether their parents told them nudity is icky or not. What I'm saying is that parents should not assume their 4 year olds can handle seeing dangling adult genitalia just because they think that their 4 year old selves could have. That's my opinion.
Your kids probably not. Mind are good. Thank you very much. And you and your type, stay away from my kids.
Dude, you do whatever you want with your kids. Not appreciating your threatening tone for stating my opinion. You obviously don't know anything about me, otherwise you wouldn't just assume I'd be a detriment to your kids. Actually, I'm glad you don't know anything about me!0 -
Ewww! Men walk around naked? Can't they use a towel? Women don't walk around their dressing rooms naked.
If there is a family dressing room that's where she should be. Wait... does that also mean she's standing by him when he's doing his entire workout?
IDK. I'm a little confused by it all. I'm a single mom and when my son was younger (and older because I was totally paranoid), he always went into the women's bathroom with me. If you're a single dad, what are your options? He certainly can't just leave her outside the dressing room.0 -
No, no, no, no. A body isn't just a body to a 4 year old, especially a 4 year old girl seeing balls and penises swinging around. Just because YOU don't think it's a big deal doesn't mean you should put your kid in that situation not knowing if it will traumatize them or not. Maybe you should just plan ahead instead of finding yourself in a bad situation like that and acting out of desperation.
A child will only be traumatized if their parents shelter them from nudity or tell them that being naked is bad.......Maybe parents need to educate their children before such situations occur. I'm sure there are cutesy children's books that can do that.
As evidenced by the array of responses & reactions in this thread, each person is different, regardless of whether their parents told them nudity is icky or not. What I'm saying is that parents should not assume their 4 year olds can handle seeing dangling adult genitalia just because they think that their 4 year old selves could have. That's my opinion.
Your kids probably not. Mind are good. Thank you very much. And you and your type, stay away from my kids.
Dude, you do whatever you want with your kids. Not appreciating your threatening tone for stating my opinion. You obviously don't know anything about me, otherwise you wouldn't just assume I'd be a detriment to your kids. Actually, I'm glad you don't know anything about me!
I know enough that you're lecturing people on how to raise their kids. No threats at all but I don't appreciate your approach either. We clear?0 -
I'm one of the ones that was very shy and anxious as a little girl. Men were big, hairy creatures with deep scary voices. Being around strange men AT ALL was intimidating to me. I can only imagine the terror of being surrounded by their genitals as well. Sorry, but a 4 year old is not blind and stupid. They can identify their parts. While little kids shouldn't be made to feel shame about the body, we need to recognize that many are starting to develop a sense of sexuality, and they may be confused or scared if they are overexposed to strangers' bodies before they are ready. Some kids are more sensitive than others, so don't assume kids don't care.
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No, no, no, no. A body isn't just a body to a 4 year old, especially a 4 year old girl seeing balls and penises swinging around. Just because YOU don't think it's a big deal doesn't mean you should put your kid in that situation not knowing if it will traumatize them or not. Maybe you should just plan ahead instead of finding yourself in a bad situation like that and acting out of desperation.
A child will only be traumatized if their parents shelter them from nudity or tell them that being naked is bad.......Maybe parents need to educate their children before such situations occur. I'm sure there are cutesy children's books that can do that.
As evidenced by the array of responses & reactions in this thread, each person is different, regardless of whether their parents told them nudity is icky or not. What I'm saying is that parents should not assume their 4 year olds can handle seeing dangling adult genitalia just because they think that their 4 year old selves could have. That's my opinion.
Your kids probably not. Mind are good. Thank you very much. And you and your type, stay away from my kids.
Dude, you do whatever you want with your kids. Not appreciating your threatening tone for stating my opinion. You obviously don't know anything about me, otherwise you wouldn't just assume I'd be a detriment to your kids. Actually, I'm glad you don't know anything about me!
I know enough that you're lecturing people on how to raise their kids. No threats at all but I don't appreciate your approach either. We clear?
No, we're not. I'm not "lecturing". I stated my opinion in a few sentences just like the other 150 people in this thread. You singled me out because you don't like what I had to say. Your problem, not mine.0 -
I'm one of the ones that was very shy and anxious as a little girl. Men were big, hairy creatures with deep scary voices. Being around strange men AT ALL was intimidating to me. I can only imagine the terror of being surrounded by their genitals as well. Sorry, but a 4 year old is not blind and stupid. They can identify their parts. While little kids shouldn't be made to feel shame about the body, we need to recognize that many are starting to develop a sense of sexuality, and they may be confused or scared if they are overexposed to strangers' bodies before they are ready. Some kids are more sensitive than others, so don't assume kids don't care.
This is what I'm saying! Parents shouldn't put their kids in a situation they ASSUME won't affect them in a negative way. Everyone is different.
Or you could raise kids not to be weak willed adults that are scared of their own shadows. Your choice. And a 4 year old developing a sense of sexuality? You think you might have a problem there? Good luck with your kids. I'm out of here.0 -
No, no, no, no. A body isn't just a body to a 4 year old, especially a 4 year old girl seeing balls and penises swinging around. Just because YOU don't think it's a big deal doesn't mean you should put your kid in that situation not knowing if it will traumatize them or not. Maybe you should just plan ahead instead of finding yourself in a bad situation like that and acting out of desperation.
A child will only be traumatized if their parents shelter them from nudity or tell them that being naked is bad.......Maybe parents need to educate their children before such situations occur. I'm sure there are cutesy children's books that can do that.
As evidenced by the array of responses & reactions in this thread, each person is different, regardless of whether their parents told them nudity is icky or not. What I'm saying is that parents should not assume their 4 year olds can handle seeing dangling adult genitalia just because they think that their 4 year old selves could have. That's my opinion.
Your kids probably not. Mind are good. Thank you very much. And you and your type, stay away from my kids.
Dude, you do whatever you want with your kids. Not appreciating your threatening tone for stating my opinion. You obviously don't know anything about me, otherwise you wouldn't just assume I'd be a detriment to your kids. Actually, I'm glad you don't know anything about me!
I know enough that you're lecturing people on how to raise their kids. No threats at all but I don't appreciate your approach either. We clear?
No, we're not. I'm not "lecturing". I stated my opinion in a few sentences just like the other 150 people in this thread. You singled me out because you don't like what I had to say. Your problem, not mine.
Sorry for singling you out there. And no, I have no problem. Its people like you that have a problem. Just like the OP. You're sexualizing children. To me, that is strange.0 -
No, no, no, no. A body isn't just a body to a 4 year old, especially a 4 year old girl seeing balls and penises swinging around. Just because YOU don't think it's a big deal doesn't mean you should put your kid in that situation not knowing if it will traumatize them or not. Maybe you should just plan ahead instead of finding yourself in a bad situation like that and acting out of desperation.
A child will only be traumatized if their parents shelter them from nudity or tell them that being naked is bad.......Maybe parents need to educate their children before such situations occur. I'm sure there are cutesy children's books that can do that.
As evidenced by the array of responses & reactions in this thread, each person is different, regardless of whether their parents told them nudity is icky or not. What I'm saying is that parents should not assume their 4 year olds can handle seeing dangling adult genitalia just because they think that their 4 year old selves could have. That's my opinion.
Your kids probably not. Mind are good. Thank you very much. And you and your type, stay away from my kids.
Why would you say this? What are you implying? That those of us who prefer privacy are somehow perverts? What a creepy response. :noway:0 -
Next time you need to be more careful. Four year old girls are dangerous creatures and may steal something from you.0
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