Social Policing of "did you get your flu shot?" Yay or nay?

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  • EatingRight123
    EatingRight123 Posts: 29
    they already said they need 15billion $ over 25 years, because vaccines are not effective. Yet people are still getting them.
  • Lyssa62
    Lyssa62 Posts: 930 Member
    While it is a personal choice, I feel that it is socially irresponsible to not get one. Roughly 90% of the population in a given area need to be immune in order for "herd immunity" to take place. The remaining 10% should be made up of those who have allergic reactions or sensitivities to such immunizations. A normal healthy adult who does not get one puts others at risk.

    ^^^ this... pretty much the same thing I tell people when they ask me if I'm getting one.
  • megleo818
    megleo818 Posts: 595 Member
    Never really thought about it as an invasion of privacy. Interesting question.

    I think I've volunteered that our family got the shot, but haven't asked anyone, outright. I am actually just impressed that we got the shot on time and that it does cover most of the strains out there this year -- this is a first for us!

    Wasn't looking to "police" anyone. I think it's a very personal decision and I certainly don't slight anyone for deciding in a way that differs from how I've decided.
  • PurplePookie
    PurplePookie Posts: 85 Member
    I've never signed anything. Half the time I was never even asked if I wanted the shot, they just made me get it. So i don't think that's completely true. JS.

    Well you should sue and make millions since that's pretty illegal. Unless you were under age and your parents consented for you.

    Or you live in a country/area that doesn't require you to sign anything...

    I actually never thought of it as rude or intrusive to ask or be asked about the flu shot. But, I've never had anyone question my choice and I've never questioned another person’s choice to get or not get the shot.
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,421 Member


    It is my understanding that no samples of vaccine since the early 1960s in the US have tested positive for SV-40 gene products. This suggests that the cell lines used to produce the vaccine are completely free of SV-40, unlike the early cell lines dervied from simian kidney cells. Since SV-40 can be detected and is known to be of concern, it is almost certainly ('almost' because I am not familiar with the testing process for the vaccine) a routine test down on the cell line regularly as part of their quality control.

    In other countries I see that SV-40 has been found in vaccine up to the early 80s, but not since. So anyone in the US vaccinated after 1963 and in other non US countries after 1980 should have zero risk of SV-40 material being present in the vaccine they received.

    This is from the CDC:

    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/updates/archive/polio_and_cancer_factsheet.htm

    Thanks, Robyn..."modern" is a subjective term. I appreciate your time. I'm past the age on the polio vaccine - vaccinated in 1960...but, meh....I've lived long enough already. It would almost be cool to have a simian virus that killed me. Kind of unique.
  • RobynC79
    RobynC79 Posts: 331 Member


    It is my understanding that no samples of vaccine since the early 1960s in the US have tested positive for SV-40 gene products. This suggests that the cell lines used to produce the vaccine are completely free of SV-40, unlike the early cell lines dervied from simian kidney cells. Since SV-40 can be detected and is known to be of concern, it is almost certainly ('almost' because I am not familiar with the testing process for the vaccine) a routine test down on the cell line regularly as part of their quality control.

    In other countries I see that SV-40 has been found in vaccine up to the early 80s, but not since. So anyone in the US vaccinated after 1963 and in other non US countries after 1980 should have zero risk of SV-40 material being present in the vaccine they received.

    This is from the CDC:

    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/updates/archive/polio_and_cancer_factsheet.htm

    Thanks, Robyn..."modern" is a subjective term. I appreciate your time. I'm past the age on the polio vaccine - vaccinated in 1960...but, meh....I've lived long enough already. It would almost be cool to have a simian virus that killed me. Kind of unique.

    No problem. But if you'd like to go out by 'simian virus', there are probably simpler ways!!
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,421 Member

    Thanks, Robyn..."modern" is a subjective term. I appreciate your time. I'm past the age on the polio vaccine - vaccinated in 1960...but, meh....I've lived long enough already. It would almost be cool to have a simian virus that killed me. Kind of unique.

    No problem. But if you'd like to go out by 'simian virus', there are probably simpler ways!!

    Uh. :noway:
  • RobynC79
    RobynC79 Posts: 331 Member

    Thanks, Robyn..."modern" is a subjective term. I appreciate your time. I'm past the age on the polio vaccine - vaccinated in 1960...but, meh....I've lived long enough already. It would almost be cool to have a simian virus that killed me. Kind of unique.

    No problem. But if you'd like to go out by 'simian virus', there are probably simpler ways!!

    Uh. :noway:

    I was thinking of going to zoo or on safari and getting scratched or bitten, or something... although now I see that it did not exactly come out that way.....
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    People who are worried about socialism shouldn't worry about it coming from the government. It will be implemented by their neighbors, friends, and family long before then. ;-)
  • SteveJWatson
    SteveJWatson Posts: 1,225 Member
    Why would anyone vaccinate people against the flu who aren't at risk from dying of it?

    You get a flu jab her if you are over 65 or a young person who may be compromised by getting the flu.

    Nobody else needs it - you will not eradicate influenza, it mutates all the time, hence the vaccine not being the most effective thing on the planet.
  • JUDDDing
    JUDDDing Posts: 1,367 Member
    Why would anyone vaccinate people against the flu who aren't at risk from dying of it?

    I don't like to get sick. If I can reduce my chances of getting sick by 60% for $15 - I'll do it.
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    Why would anyone vaccinate people against the flu who aren't at risk from dying of it?

    I don't like to get sick. If I can reduce my chances of getting sick by 60% for $15 - I'll do it.
    I know I don't get the flu every single year, or even every other year. The vaccination isn't without consequence either, people often feel sick from flu-like symptoms whether or not they are technically "infected." So (for those who aren't at risk of dying from it) it depends on how likely you think you are to get it in the first place, how bad the vaccination makes you feel, and how much crappier you will feel if you get full-blown influenza.
  • CarmenSRT
    CarmenSRT Posts: 843 Member
    Why would anyone vaccinate people against the flu who aren't at risk from dying of it?

    You get a flu jab her if you are over 65 or a young person who may be compromised by getting the flu.

    Nobody else needs it - you will not eradicate influenza, it mutates all the time, hence the vaccine not being the most effective thing on the planet.

    My spouse works in a hospital. Sick people, including people with the flu, congregate at hospitals. 'Nuff said.
  • SteveJWatson
    SteveJWatson Posts: 1,225 Member
    Why would anyone vaccinate people against the flu who aren't at risk from dying of it?

    You get a flu jab her if you are over 65 or a young person who may be compromised by getting the flu.

    Nobody else needs it - you will not eradicate influenza, it mutates all the time, hence the vaccine not being the most effective thing on the planet.

    My spouse works in a hospital. Sick people, including people with the flu, congregate at hospitals. 'Nuff said.

    I think nurses are one of the 'compromised' adults who are elligible for the jab over here.

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