No Homo?

In summary can someone state they aren't homosexual without implying its bad to be homosexual?

You can call yourself a "breeder". Then it's OK.

Been called that a number of times by my gay friends. No problem. Proud "breeder" here.

"Breeder" is a term for cattle ranchers, not parents. Ergo, I'm not a breeder.

Apparently it has different meanings depending on who uses them. I have no problem with that. I prefer to not get huffy about slang. My identity doesn't depend on a silly word.

Breeder? OMG, Im totally offended. Reported to the FBI now.

When I come across important topics like this...ones that to and for me are not "my way or the highway" where opinions are as varied and different as noses--various quotes come to my mind, such as these:


It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. ~Krishnamurti


It's a sad and stupid thing to have to proclaim yourself a revolutionary just to be a decent man. ~David Harris

We do not have to visit a madhouse to find disordered minds; our planet is the mental institution of the universe. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention. ~Author Unknown

One of the misfortunes of our time is that in getting rid of false shame, we have killed off so much real shame as well. ~Louis Kronenberger, Company Manners, 1954


We create an environment where it is alright to hate, to steal, to cheat, and to lie if we dress it up with symbols of respectability, dignity and love. ~Whitney Moore, Jr.

Most of the change we think we see in life Is due to truths being in and out of favor.
~Robert Frost, "The Black Cottage," North of Boston, 1914

I hate when people feel the need to say "girl crush" or "man crush" on someone of the same sex to not sound gay. If you have a crush, you're attracted in some way. I have a crush on Zoey Deschanel. Still straight. Get over it, world.

OMG! I have a crush on her too!

Also, if you are saying people are oversensitive maybe we should use a different phrase that is aimed at another minority.

If I went to someone, 'I like your big booty. No n***a' would you think I was racist?

Just to be clear I would never utter the above phrase and have used it only as an example in the context of this discussion.

100% agreement on this example. It has basically been proven that our sexual orientation is genetically predisposed (and not necessarily one or the other, but on a sliding scale). I had no decision making process in being heterosexual, any more than my hair and eye color. I would no more say, "That's so gay" or "No homo" than I would say, "That's so black, so Jewish, on and on. It is an embarrassment that comments like these are accepted by people who would find racist comments offensive, as though they aren't engaged in the same behavior.

I also think one day, the denial of gays to marry will be looked back on with great shame. To deny people a basic civil right that in no way hurts anyone is right on par with a time in our country when interracial marriages were against the law. It shames and saddens me to know that if I was born in a different era, I would not have been able to marry my wife. I am shamed that this basic right is denied to so many others still in this country.

I will now get off my soapbox and get back to work.

I just don't get everyone that gets "hurt" or "offended" at comments not directed at you or anyone in particular. Some people hate the word retarded and yes it is insensitive but someone that looks at a sculpture and says wow that is retarded is not intentionally trying to hurt anyone it is not the same as insulting and mentally handicapped person. People need to quit being some damned sensitive about everything.

Its called "common sense"...those who have it are not offended by every shortened word people say/type..

It would be outrageously offensive if people regularly said things like "I want some fried chicken - no nig." It uses a stereotype and a shortened version of a seriously offensive term. It is equally offensive when someone says "you're looking good - no homo." It's a derrogatory and completely unnecessary comment and should be treated as such. People with common sense and the capability of reasoning understand that.

Thats what I was trying to say unsuccessfully in numerous posts. Ill have to remember that for the next time I see this come up. Nice one!

Are the majority of guys on this site so insecure with their sexuality that if they compliment another guy, they have to end the comment with "no homo"? As a gay guy, I find this kind of insulting. As if being gay is something I should be ashamed of and requires a disclaimer. Yes homo.

The problem that I have with the 'no homo' phrase is the suggestion that a gay man complimenting another man (gay or straight) is somehow inherently sexual. I have said to many of my male friends, gay and straight, that they look buff or their haircut suits them etc. and there is nothing sexual in it. The suggestion in the phrase 'no homo' is the age old homophobic idiom that because I am gay I will automatically want to sleep with 'you' (the heterosexual male) and I am somehow incapable of forming plutonic relationships with other men. That, I find insulting.

As I bi woman, I think the above statement is very well said...bravo

I just don't get everyone that gets "hurt" or "offended" at comments not directed at you or anyone in particular. Some people hate the word retarded and yes it is insensitive but someone that looks at a sculpture and says wow that is retarded is not intentionally trying to hurt anyone it is not the same as insulting and mentally handicapped person. People need to quit being some damned sensitive about everything.

Its called "common sense"...those who have it are not offended by every shortened word people say/type..

It would be outrageously offensive if people regularly said things like "I want some fried chicken - no nig." It uses a stereotype and a shortened version of a seriously offensive term. It is equally offensive when someone says "you're looking good - no homo." It's a derrogatory and completely unnecessary comment and should be treated as such. People with common sense and the capability of reasoning understand that.

Edit - I hope I don't get banned for this, because I certainly wouldn't call someone that. It was just an example, used to indicate that even though SOME people don't see this as offensive/think people are being too sensitive, nobody should be surprised when people ARE offended by said phrase.

Then let me clarify, if I don't say anything to be offensive on purpose and I don't want to hurt your feelings then I don't care at all that you are hurt by it. The bottom line is grow up put your big boy or girl panties on and quit dwelling on words that are not directed at you...life is full of wrongs, bullsh#t, and hardship, either deal with it or get emotionally crushed under it.

For me, personally, if I'm not inspiring straight men to lust, then I'm not working hard enough.

Those who attempt to classify a phrase as a joke are doing the same thing as those who are attempting to remove a phrase from common speech: they are attempting to control the narrative.

Everyone is attempting to control the narrative. If you want, go ahead and pat yourself on the back when you manage not to feel offended when you hear a slur; but don't kid yourself. The words matter. Do you really think that advertisers are doling out millions of dollars for fifteen seconds of airtime during a television show in order to make the best Super Bowl commercials list? The question isn't whether or not someone will be offended. The question is whether or not language matters. And it does.

Those who attempt to classify a phrase as a joke are doing the same thing as those who are attempting to remove a phrase from common speech: they are attempting to control the narrative.

Everyone is attempting to control the narrative. If you want, go ahead and pat yourself on the back when you manage not to feel offended when you hear a slur; but don't kid yourself. The words matter. Do you really think that advertisers are doling out millions of dollars for fifteen seconds of airtime during a television show in order to make the best Super Bowl commercials list? The question isn't whether or not someone will be offended. The question is whether or not language matters. And it does.

Only if we let it.

Unquestioned thoughts lead to compulsive reactions.

For me, personally, if I'm not inspiring straight men to lust, then I'm not working hard enough.

Winner!

True. LOL!

Its really ridiculous. I see it on FB all the time. very insecure and immature.

Those who attempt to classify a phrase as a joke are doing the same thing as those who are attempting to remove a phrase from common speech: they are attempting to control the narrative.

Everyone is attempting to control the narrative. If you want, go ahead and pat yourself on the back when you manage not to feel offended when you hear a slur; but don't kid yourself. The words matter. Do you really think that advertisers are doling out millions of dollars for fifteen seconds of airtime during a television show in order to make the best Super Bowl commercials list? The question isn't whether or not someone will be offended. The question is whether or not language matters. And it does.

Only if we let it.

Unquestioned thoughts lead to compulsive reactions.

Question it all you want; the discourse should continue. But don't fool yourself with the commonplace term "we".

I find it offensive that it bothers you so much you Need to know, for if you didn't you wouldn't have created the thread.

To each their own on their mindsets.

If we never complain, how do we expect change to come?

Change comes from how you interpret the present and teach future generations through example. Not by complaining.

I don't think you understand what I mean. If people don't like the way they are treated and never say anything, how would anyone else know it bothered them?

1st, I cant believe this thread is still going

as specific towards your response, I do understand. However, I see that you do not have the foresight in educating those around you. Just because we ***** about an issue doesn't mean it's getting extra attention for "correction". Change comes through action, not whining endlessly. Create it through example and education. Not pissing about a comment.

Open your closed-minded solution to and create a real one.