No Homo?

So today to see how sensative people are when you post something on someones thread if they are overweight type "No-Fatties" and for those that are at their goal type "No Anorexia" and lets see how people explode on that.

Any time you classify people it can appear to be offensive and devisive. I am straight but will shop until my last day on earth, I will be asked contually if I am gay or not because I wear loud colors and Jerry Garcia ties with my bright french cuff shirts. I am not gay but take it as a compliment when a man hits on me just as I enjoy women complimenting me in my clothes. Just because I would not sleep with or date SeaRunner does not mean I cannot hang out, shop or party with him as I do anyone else.

No Prejudice!

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Those who attempt to classify a phrase as a joke are doing the same thing as those who are attempting to remove a phrase from common speech: they are attempting to control the narrative.

Everyone is attempting to control the narrative. If you want, go ahead and pat yourself on the back when you manage not to feel offended when you hear a slur; but don't kid yourself. The words matter. Do you really think that advertisers are doling out millions of dollars for fifteen seconds of airtime during a television show in order to make the best Super Bowl commercials list? The question isn't whether or not someone will be offended. The question is whether or not language matters. And it does.

Only if we let it.

Unquestioned thoughts lead to compulsive reactions.

Question it all you want; the discourse should continue. But don't fool yourself with the commonplace term "we".

It's enough for me to know what I know, once I've determined something for myself. When I question my thinking and not give words power over me then I'm happy and at peace. I find it much more enjoyable to live life in a way where I don't automatically assume what someone means. And even if they mean it in a derogatory way, to not let their opinion matter to me MORE than my own peace of mind.

Don't let me disturb your inner peace. But language does not rise out of the individual and grace the universe with its singularity. Language is a social contract, unbreakable insofar as humans are social beings. The sound of words forms arbitrarily, but then the meaning rises from social interaction, and the value is eventually determined by common usage.

Don't let me disturb your inner peace. But language does not rise out of the individual and grace the universe with its singularity. Language is a social contract, unbreakable insofar as humans are social beings. The sound of words forms arbitrarily, but then the meaning rises from social interaction, and the value is eventually determined by common usage.

Pardon me, and I'm sorry to interrupt, but I would just like to say that the way you language is really hot.

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Those who attempt to classify a phrase as a joke are doing the same thing as those who are attempting to remove a phrase from common speech: they are attempting to control the narrative.

Everyone is attempting to control the narrative. If you want, go ahead and pat yourself on the back when you manage not to feel offended when you hear a slur; but don't kid yourself. The words matter. Do you really think that advertisers are doling out millions of dollars for fifteen seconds of airtime during a television show in order to make the best Super Bowl commercials list? The question isn't whether or not someone will be offended. The question is whether or not language matters. And it does.

Only if we let it.

Unquestioned thoughts lead to compulsive reactions.

Question it all you want; the discourse should continue. But don't fool yourself with the commonplace term "we".

It's enough for me to know what I know, once I've determined something for myself. When I question my thinking and not give words power over me then I'm happy and at peace. I find it much more enjoyable to live life in a way where I don't automatically assume what someone means. And even if they mean it in a derogatory way, to not let their opinion matter to me MORE than my own peace of mind.

Don't let me disturb your inner peace. But language does not rise out of the individual and grace the universe with its singularity. Language is a social contract, unbreakable insofar as humans are social beings. The sound of words forms arbitrarily, but then the meaning rises from social interaction, and the value determined by common usage.

Exactly...value determined by common usage. So if the collective majority is in the habit of giving words and definitions too much power, to the point where they war with one another, then perhaps such "value" should be questioned. Throughout history, what was once common knowledge or common behavior, has changed and evolved. I don't place much stock in "common" value, but prefer to think for myself.

Again, I'm not attempting to discount the importance of "thinking for yourself" but it's important to realize that the "habit of giving words and definitions too much power" isn't optional . . . insofar as humans are social beings. In fact, the "habit" is more or less the definition of language, and you use that same language to "think for yourself." There is no way to give definitions too much power: given or not, these definitions define how humans exist as social beings.

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Those who attempt to classify a phrase as a joke are doing the same thing as those who are attempting to remove a phrase from common speech: they are attempting to control the narrative.

Everyone is attempting to control the narrative. If you want, go ahead and pat yourself on the back when you manage not to feel offended when you hear a slur; but don't kid yourself. The words matter. Do you really think that advertisers are doling out millions of dollars for fifteen seconds of airtime during a television show in order to make the best Super Bowl commercials list? The question isn't whether or not someone will be offended. The question is whether or not language matters. And it does.

Only if we let it.

Unquestioned thoughts lead to compulsive reactions.

Question it all you want; the discourse should continue. But don't fool yourself with the commonplace term "we".

It's enough for me to know what I know, once I've determined something for myself. When I question my thinking and not give words power over me then I'm happy and at peace. I find it much more enjoyable to live life in a way where I don't automatically assume what someone means. And even if they mean it in a derogatory way, to not let their opinion matter to me MORE than my own peace of mind.

Don't let me disturb your inner peace. But language does not rise out of the individual and grace the universe with its singularity. Language is a social contract, unbreakable insofar as humans are social beings. The sound of words forms arbitrarily, but then the meaning rises from social interaction, and the value determined by common usage.

Exactly...value determined by common usage. So if the collective majority is in the habit of giving words and definitions too much power, to the point where they war with one another, then perhaps such "value" should be questioned. Throughout history, what was once common knowledge or common behavior, has changed and evolved. I don't place much stock in "common" value, but prefer to think for myself.

Again, I'm not attempting to discount the importance of "thinking for yourself" but it's important to realize that the "habit of giving words and definitions too much power" isn't optional . . . insofar as humans are social beings. In fact, the "habit" is more or less the definition of language, and you use that same language to "think for yourself." There is no way to give definitions too much power: given or not, these definitions define how humans exists as social beings.

But you see, I have discovered in my own life experience that the habit of giving words and definitions too much power IS optional. Here is where freedom lies. All habits can be broken, no matter how ingrained they may seem. Who we are is more powerful than the thinking mind. At least this is what I've come to realize.

I've enjoyed our chat. Must run to the gym now.

Cheers.

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In summary can someone state they aren't homosexual without implying its bad to be homosexual?

You can call yourself a "breeder". Then it's OK.

Been called that a number of times by my gay friends. No problem. Proud "breeder" here.

"Breeder" is a term for cattle ranchers, not parents. Ergo, I'm not a breeder.

Apparently it has different meanings depending on who uses them. I have no problem with that. I prefer to not get huffy about slang. My identity doesn't depend on a silly word.

Neither does mine, but I prefer honesty and specificity to slang. For the most part, I quit using slang by the time I left my twenties.

I find slang to be neither dishonest nor immature. To each their own.

Cheers.

In general, no, but in the case of the term "breeder," yes, it's quite dishonest. in the case of the phrase "That's so gay," yes, very immature. There just comes a point in life when the young people are making up new slang faster than an older gal can handle. So I gave up. :smokin:

Okay...if my man wanted to be called gay or a girl...I'd dump him so fast...I don't know what glee is and....gay me are NOT manly...part of being a man in ALL lifeforms involves chasing the FEMALES..I'm only being honest...

Excuse me?

This has to count as one of the most ridiculous posts that I've read here at MFP. Being a man is having male sex organs. It has nothing to do with gender roles or sexual attraction. According to the simple definition in your post, a rapist would be considered pretty darn manly.

You are perpetuating a stereotype about gay men that is simply not true. Many gay men can fit into the societal definition of manly - sporty, strong, muscular, debonair, hairy...whatever society may consider manly. I don't think that the fact that they don't want to have sex with women makes them any less of a man. For those gay men who don't fit into the manly category...they are still as much of a man as anyone else.

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Don't let me disturb your inner peace. But language does not rise out of the individual and grace the universe with its singularity. Language is a social contract, unbreakable insofar as humans are social beings. The sound of words forms arbitrarily, but then the meaning rises from social interaction, and the value is eventually determined by common usage.

Pardon me, and I'm sorry to interrupt, but I would just like to say that the way you language is really hot.

^^ Agreed!

I miss Wittgenstein . . .

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For me, personally, if I'm not inspiring straight men to lust, then I'm not working hard enough.

You body is looking totally great. Amazing transformation --Yes Hetero

There we go, problem solved.

Thank you, that makes me feel good about myself.

Rollin', rollin', rollin' RAWHIDE.

Is there something wrong with me that I assumed this thread was about milk before I opened it? :laugh:

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I was just about to say, wow this thread rolled but of course it's my loser friends that rolled it themselves. :laugh:

so now this thread is just an estrogen fest?

Until you put your tip in.

Yahoo!


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