Eating "junk" and losing weight?

I see so many people going on about not getting nutrients - do they not sell multivitamins everywhere?

That is not how it works.

That's not how *what* works? You seem to be implying that vitamins don't contain nutrients.

The idea is that a multivitamin can't reproduce all the beneficial nutrients contained within a diet rich in fruits and vegetables.

But that doesn't mean people shouldn't take them. I take one when I remember. I often forget though. I think most MDs would reccomend a multi-vitamin.

This falls under "better safe than sorry" imo.

Here is what I meant read myth #1

http://www.rd.com/health/wellness/5-vitamin-truths-and-lies/

Does anyone have any actual scientific evidence that eating "junk" food, in the context of an active lifestyle with healthy body composition, is actually worse in any measurable way than eating "healthy" food?

The answer to this question will never come...

Seriously? Yes, there are hundreds upon thousands of studies on this.

ou will have to narrow the field rather than say "junk food" let's take one of the biggest offenders "Partially Hydrogenated Oils" (trans fat) named because they add hydrogen back into the oil which is a pretty way of saying it turns unsaturated fatty acids into saturated ones. Basically it makes foods last for ever on shelves, because that is what food is supposed to do right? Be loaded with chemicals to last forever?

Don't take my word for it National Academy of Sciences' Institute of Medicine said that trans fats shouldn't be consumed at all. The Food and Drug Administration says that intake should be as low as possible. (source http://www.sixwise.com/newsletters/06/02/08/what-exactly-does-it-mean-when-foods-are-hydrogenated-and-what-risks-can-it-pose.htm) Need more reason not to consume very much? Trans fats raise your bad (LDL) cholesterol levels and lower your good (HDL) cholesterol levels. Eating trans fats increases your risk of developing heart disease and stroke. It’s also associated with a higher risk of developing type 2 diabetes.

There is one "junk food" which other would you like to know about?

I just had ice cream and hot chocolate for breakfast. It's not the first time I've done this and certainly won't be the last.

Losing weight is all about the number of calories you eat, it doesn't matter if those calories are from healthy foods or from "junk" foods. As long as you stay under your calorie goal, you'll lose weight.

Most people don't JUST want to lose weight though. You probably also want a nice toned look. For body composition, you need to make sure you're getting enough protein as well.

Stay under your calorie goal, "eat back exercise calories," and try your best to hit you fat and protein numbers.

i agree and is there any Ice cream left to share?

Have the foods you've been eaten been 'proven' to be safe?

I suspect no more than the 'junk foods' you're thinking about.

Plenty of nasty stuff in nature too, though it's certainly easier to find it stuff that has been more heavily processed by humans.

The sorts of foods I eat are constantly being scientifically demonstrated to improve your health. Yes. There is just a constant stream of such studies.

There is simply no recorded correlation between my diet and huge markers of ill health like coronary disease. We don't see whole societies of people getting fatter and sicker as they eat more whole, unprocessed foods.

The correlation with junk food and ill health exists. It doesn't mean there is causation neither does it mean there isn't.

I'm not willing to cut out anything that I won't cut out for the rest of my life. It's not sustainable. I eat my fair share of fruit & veg and other healthy foods, but I eat junk too.

Ditto.

You can certainly lose weight eating junk if you stay under your calorie budget, but you will feel like crap and never really satisfied IMO

Does anyone have any actual scientific evidence that eating "junk" food, in the context of an active lifestyle with healthy body composition, is actually worse in any measurable way than eating "healthy" food?

The answer to this question will never come...

Seriously? Yes, there are hundreds upon thousands of studies on this.

ou will have to narrow the field rather than say "junk food" let's take one of the biggest offenders "Partially Hydrogenated Oils" (trans fat) named because they add hydrogen back into the oil which is a pretty way of saying it turns unsaturated fatty acids into saturated ones. Basically it makes foods last for ever on shelves, because that is what food is supposed to do right? Be loaded with chemicals to last forever?

Don't take my word for it National Academy of Sciences' Institute of Medicine said that trans fats shouldn't be consumed at all. The Food and Drug Administration says that intake should be as low as possible. (source http://www.sixwise.com/newsletters/06/02/08/what-exactly-does-it-mean-when-foods-are-hydrogenated-and-what-risks-can-it-pose.htm) Need more reason not to consume very much? Trans fats raise your bad (LDL) cholesterol levels and lower your good (HDL) cholesterol levels. Eating trans fats increases your risk of developing heart disease and stroke. It’s also associated with a higher risk of developing type 2 diabetes.

There is one "junk food" which other would you like to know about?

Trans fat is trans fat no matter what food it's in.

Trans fat is a macronutrient.

Macronutrient control is the issue.

uhhhh nooo Fat is a macro, and no one said fat was bad for you.

..... Yes. Trans fat is a macronutrient.

Does anyone have any actual scientific evidence that eating "junk" food, in the context of an active lifestyle with healthy body composition, is actually worse in any measurable way than eating "healthy" food?

The answer to this question will never come...

Seriously? Yes, there are hundreds upon thousands of studies on this.

ou will have to narrow the field rather than say "junk food" let's take one of the biggest offenders "Partially Hydrogenated Oils" (trans fat) named because they add hydrogen back into the oil which is a pretty way of saying it turns unsaturated fatty acids into saturated ones. Basically it makes foods last for ever on shelves, because that is what food is supposed to do right? Be loaded with chemicals to last forever?

Don't take my word for it National Academy of Sciences' Institute of Medicine said that trans fats shouldn't be consumed at all. The Food and Drug Administration says that intake should be as low as possible. (source http://www.sixwise.com/newsletters/06/02/08/what-exactly-does-it-mean-when-foods-are-hydrogenated-and-what-risks-can-it-pose.htm) Need more reason not to consume very much? Trans fats raise your bad (LDL) cholesterol levels and lower your good (HDL) cholesterol levels. Eating trans fats increases your risk of developing heart disease and stroke. It’s also associated with a higher risk of developing type 2 diabetes.

There is one "junk food" which other would you like to know about?

Trans fat is trans fat no matter what food it's in.

Trans fat is a macronutrient.

Macronutrient control is the issue.

uhhhh nooo Fat is a macro, and no one said fat was bad for you.

..... Yes. Trans fat is a macronutrient.

While trans fat "technically" has fat in it.. Most are man made and not a beneficial fat, nor is it a good way to get fat in your diet. So no, no one in their right mind will say be sure to get your TRANS FAT macro nutrient.

..... Yes. Trans fat is a macronutrient.

Have to agree here. Like saturated fat, it's need to be limited so it doesn't impact health.

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Does anyone have any actual scientific evidence that eating "junk" food, in the context of an active lifestyle with healthy body composition, is actually worse in any measurable way than eating "healthy" food?

The answer to this question will never come...

Seriously? Yes, there are hundreds upon thousands of studies on this.

ou will have to narrow the field rather than say "junk food" let's take one of the biggest offenders "Partially Hydrogenated Oils" (trans fat) named because they add hydrogen back into the oil which is a pretty way of saying it turns unsaturated fatty acids into saturated ones. Basically it makes foods last for ever on shelves, because that is what food is supposed to do right? Be loaded with chemicals to last forever?

Don't take my word for it National Academy of Sciences' Institute of Medicine said that trans fats shouldn't be consumed at all. The Food and Drug Administration says that intake should be as low as possible. (source http://www.sixwise.com/newsletters/06/02/08/what-exactly-does-it-mean-when-foods-are-hydrogenated-and-what-risks-can-it-pose.htm) Need more reason not to consume very much? Trans fats raise your bad (LDL) cholesterol levels and lower your good (HDL) cholesterol levels. Eating trans fats increases your risk of developing heart disease and stroke. It’s also associated with a higher risk of developing type 2 diabetes.

There is one "junk food" which other would you like to know about?

Trans fat is trans fat no matter what food it's in.

Trans fat is a macronutrient.

Macronutrient control is the issue.

uhhhh nooo Fat is a macro, and no one said fat was bad for you.

..... Yes. Trans fat is a macronutrient.

While trans fat "technically" has fat in it.. Most are man made and not a beneficial fat, nor is it a good way to get fat in your diet. So no, no one in their right mind will say be sure to get your TRANS FAT macro nutrient.

A molecule that contains calories is, by definition, a macronutrient. Trans fat is a type of fat. Glucose is a type of carbohydrate. Glucose and trans fats are macronutrients.

Fat is a category of macronutrient hat includes saturated fat, polyunsaturated fat, trans fat, etc. Look at this nice big list of macronutrients which includes all of the ones mentioned above:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_macronutrients