Quitting diet soda today

See the Brain damage is setting in already. LOL. Go ahead, Drink all the Aspartame you will. I will stay away from that s*it

http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/recent.html

Good for you! That stuff is toxic!

Aspartame is broken down into phenylalanine, aspartic acid, and methanol. Phenylalanine and Aspartic Acid are amino acids and there's a much higher concentration of these aminos in a measly 4oz chicken breast than there is in diet soda. 1 Banana will yield more methanol than a 12oz can of soda. The dosage limits that can cause any issues are VERY HIGH, and you'd have to consume massive amounts to even detect any increased levels in a blood test. Cliffs: Diet soda is fine if you don't get headaches from it, and a very small % of people do. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17828671

Everyone should stop spreading rumors and old-wives tales.

Really? You reference a voodoo witchcraft non-scientifically proven style of medicine?

that has been keeping people healthy in the east for thousands of years.

question for you - who has the highest rates of all the big diseases in the world? Us with our fancy government agencies and better science than anyone else. Who is almost always among the lowest? The Eastern countries, the Phillipines, India, etc, etc

You don't have to believe it, but just because something isn't patentable by a pharmaceutical company doesn't mean it isn't more effective.

I would contend that they're unable to 1) track their disease rates nearly as well as we can & 2) based on holistic medicine can't even identify them.

Philippines is ranked 129 with an average of 67.8

India is ranked 147 with an average of 64

In support of your point, Japan ranks #1 overall.

I gave it all up over one month ago and anything with aspartame/arfticial sweeteners. Had a headache for a day (don't drink coffee) but feel FANTASTIC now! Proud of you.

See the Brain damage is setting in already. LOL. Go ahead, Drink all the Aspartame you will. I will stay away from that s*it

http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/recent.html

Good for you! That stuff is toxic!

Aspartame is broken down into phenylalanine, aspartic acid, and methanol. Phenylalanine and Aspartic Acid are amino acids and there's a much higher concentration of these aminos in a measly 4oz chicken breast than there is in diet soda. 1 Banana will yield more methanol than a 12oz can of soda. The dosage limits that can cause any issues are VERY HIGH, and you'd have to consume massive amounts to even detect any increased levels in a blood test. Cliffs: Diet soda is fine if you don't get headaches from it, and a very small % of people do. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17828671

Everyone should stop spreading rumors and old-wives tales.

Really? You reference a voodoo witchcraft non-scientifically proven style of medicine?

that has been keeping people healthy in the east for thousands of years.

question for you - who has the highest rates of all the big diseases in the world? Us with our fancy government agencies and better science than anyone else. Who is almost always among the lowest? The Eastern countries, the Phillipines, India, etc, etc

You don't have to believe it, but just because something isn't patentable by a pharmaceutical company doesn't mean it isn't more effective.

Life expectancy is a metric that should not be overlooked.

The U.S. is 40th at 77.9

Philippines is ranked 129 with an average of 67.8

India is ranked 147 with an average of 64

In support of your point, Japan ranks #1 overall.

I'd also argue what is the QUALITY of those later years here in America, where almost everyone has some sort of big disease that needs to be managed by massively expensive pills or hospital stays? We're keeping people alive longer with drugs and meds while they're nearly immobile.

But also - look at that! We outspend the rest of the world on health care by a RIDICULOUS amount, yet we're 40th in terms of life expectancy. Maybe our scientists and doctors DON'T know everything... is that so bizarre a notion?

Almost everyone, huh? Interesting. My grandparents all lived well into their 80's and 90's, and none of them were on any expensive pills, or had any big diseases. In fact, nobody in my extended family does. Same goes for my friends' families. Guess we are all just the crazy exceptions to your completely invented rule...

See the Brain damage is setting in already. LOL. Go ahead, Drink all the Aspartame you will. I will stay away from that s*it

http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/recent.html

Good for you! That stuff is toxic!

Aspartame is broken down into phenylalanine, aspartic acid, and methanol. Phenylalanine and Aspartic Acid are amino acids and there's a much higher concentration of these aminos in a measly 4oz chicken breast than there is in diet soda. 1 Banana will yield more methanol than a 12oz can of soda. The dosage limits that can cause any issues are VERY HIGH, and you'd have to consume massive amounts to even detect any increased levels in a blood test. Cliffs: Diet soda is fine if you don't get headaches from it, and a very small % of people do. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17828671

Everyone should stop spreading rumors and old-wives tales.

Really? You reference a voodoo witchcraft non-scientifically proven style of medicine?

that has been keeping people healthy in the east for thousands of years.

question for you - who has the highest rates of all the big diseases in the world? Us with our fancy government agencies and better science than anyone else. Who is almost always among the lowest? The Eastern countries, the Phillipines, India, etc, etc

You don't have to believe it, but just because something isn't patentable by a pharmaceutical company doesn't mean it isn't more effective.

Life expectancy is a metric that should not be overlooked.

The U.S. is 40th at 77.9

Philippines is ranked 129 with an average of 67.8

India is ranked 147 with an average of 64

In support of your point, Japan ranks #1 overall.

I'd also argue what is the QUALITY of those later years here in America, where almost everyone has some sort of big disease that needs to be managed by massively expensive pills or hospital stays? We're keeping people alive longer with drugs and meds while they're nearly immobile.

But also - look at that! We outspend the rest of the world on health care by a RIDICULOUS amount, yet we're 40th in terms of life expectancy. Maybe our scientists and doctors DON'T know everything... is that so bizarre a notion?

Almost everyone, huh? Interesting. My grandparents all lived well into their 80's and 90's, and none of them were on any expensive pills, or had any big diseases. In fact, nobody in my extended family does. Same goes for my friends' families. Guess we are all just the crazy exceptions to your completely invented rule...

go ahead and ignore the overall point of the post though.

See the Brain damage is setting in already. LOL. Go ahead, Drink all the Aspartame you will. I will stay away from that s*it

http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/recent.html

Distinct lack of studies cited or supporting evidence in that blog there.

yyyyeah... it's a holistic website... typically aren't many peer-reviewed governmentally sponsored studies on their sites. (see the current argument)

See the Brain damage is setting in already. LOL. Go ahead, Drink all the Aspartame you will. I will stay away from that s*it

http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/recent.html

Distinct lack of studies cited or supporting evidence in that blog there.

yyyyeah... it's a holistic website... typically aren't many peer-reviewed governmentally sponsored studies on their sites. (see the current argument)

What about non-government sponsored peer reviewed studies? Or any evidence?

See the Brain damage is setting in already. LOL. Go ahead, Drink all the Aspartame you will. I will stay away from that s*it

http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/recent.html

Good for you! That stuff is toxic!

Aspartame is broken down into phenylalanine, aspartic acid, and methanol. Phenylalanine and Aspartic Acid are amino acids and there's a much higher concentration of these aminos in a measly 4oz chicken breast than there is in diet soda. 1 Banana will yield more methanol than a 12oz can of soda. The dosage limits that can cause any issues are VERY HIGH, and you'd have to consume massive amounts to even detect any increased levels in a blood test. Cliffs: Diet soda is fine if you don't get headaches from it, and a very small % of people do. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17828671

Everyone should stop spreading rumors and old-wives tales.

Really? You reference a voodoo witchcraft non-scientifically proven style of medicine?

that has been keeping people healthy in the east for thousands of years.

question for you - who has the highest rates of all the big diseases in the world? Us with our fancy government agencies and better science than anyone else. Who is almost always among the lowest? The Eastern countries, the Phillipines, India, etc, etc

You don't have to believe it, but just because something isn't patentable by a pharmaceutical company doesn't mean it isn't more effective.

Life expectancy is a metric that should not be overlooked.

The U.S. is 40th at 77.9

Philippines is ranked 129 with an average of 67.8

India is ranked 147 with an average of 64

In support of your point, Japan ranks #1 overall.

I'd also argue what is the QUALITY of those later years here in America, where almost everyone has some sort of big disease that needs to be managed by massively expensive pills or hospital stays? We're keeping people alive longer with drugs and meds while they're nearly immobile.

But also - look at that! We outspend the rest of the world on health care by a RIDICULOUS amount, yet we're 40th in terms of life expectancy. Maybe our scientists and doctors DON'T know everything... is that so bizarre a notion?

Almost everyone, huh? Interesting. My grandparents all lived well into their 80's and 90's, and none of them were on any expensive pills, or had any big diseases. In fact, nobody in my extended family does. Same goes for my friends' families. Guess we are all just the crazy exceptions to your completely invented rule...

go ahead and ignore the overall point of the post though.

Which overall point is that? That you are making up false claims to support your non-fact based opinion? You have no credibility with which to make a point, if your claims aren't actually rooted in fact.

See the Brain damage is setting in already. LOL. Go ahead, Drink all the Aspartame you will. I will stay away from that s*it

http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/recent.html

Distinct lack of studies cited or supporting evidence in that blog there.

yyyyeah... it's a holistic website... typically aren't many peer-reviewed governmentally sponsored studies on their sites. (see the current argument)

What about non-government sponsored peer reviewed studies? Or any evidence?

take the post right above yours to heart, please.

Ironic post is ironic. I pointed out that the article had no peer reviewed studies or other evidence linked (and it was not even your post) - simple as that. You were the one who decided to weigh in with your conspiracy theories.

See the Brain damage is setting in already. LOL. Go ahead, Drink all the Aspartame you will. I will stay away from that s*it

http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/recent.html

Distinct lack of studies cited or supporting evidence in that blog there.

yyyyeah... it's a holistic website... typically aren't many peer-reviewed governmentally sponsored studies on their sites. (see the current argument)

What about non-government sponsored peer reviewed studies? Or any evidence?

take the post right above yours to heart, please.

Ironic post is ironic. I pointed out that the article had no peer reviewed studies or other evidence linked (and it was not even your post) - simple as that. You were the one who decided to weigh in with your conspiracy theories.

exactly. girl is cutting out an unhealthy food (which is a good thing) and your first post in the thread was to ask if there were any studies on that page that were evidence that aspartame is bad for you.

how bout encouraging the OP? or if you're not here to do that, why ARE you in this thread?

The point is, it's not an unhealthy food. In moderation, it's perfectly fine. Just like many other foods that are fine for most people, but bad for some. Strawberries for example, or mangos.

how bout encouraging the OP? or if you're not here to do that, why ARE you in this thread?

I question the validity of the claim hidden in this personal attack.

Is there actual value in encouraging someone on to do something completely pointless and without merit?

yeah that wasn't a personal attack.

but anyway, no one - not even you - can prove that diet soda is GOOD for you, yes?

so what's wrong with getting rid of it on the off-chance all we crazy anti-aspartame people are actually right? she risks nothing in doing so, while you all are crossing your fingers and hoping science is serving you well this time.

See the Brain damage is setting in already. LOL. Go ahead, Drink all the Aspartame you will. I will stay away from that s*it

http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/recent.html

Distinct lack of studies cited or supporting evidence in that blog there.

yyyyeah... it's a holistic website... typically aren't many peer-reviewed governmentally sponsored studies on their sites. (see the current argument)

What about non-government sponsored peer reviewed studies? Or any evidence?

take the post right above yours to heart, please.

Ironic post is ironic. I pointed out that the article had no peer reviewed studies or other evidence linked (and it was not even your post) - simple as that. You were the one who decided to weigh in with your conspiracy theories.

exactly. girl is cutting out an unhealthy food (which is a good thing) and your first post in the thread was to ask if there were any studies on that page that were evidence that aspartame is bad for you.

how bout encouraging the OP? or if you're not here to do that, why ARE you in this thread?

The point is, it's not an unhealthy food. In moderation, it's perfectly fine. Just like many other foods that are fine for most people, but bad for some. Strawberries for example, or mangos.

is it a healthy food?

Congrats!!!!!! I wish you all the best success and stick with it! Your body will thank you later :flowerforyou:

Only on MFP will people argue that quitting Diet Coke is a bad thing

* Facepalm

haha right? crazytown.

how bout encouraging the OP? or if you're not here to do that, why ARE you in this thread?

I question the validity of the claim hidden in this personal attack.

Is there actual value in encouraging someone on to do something completely pointless and without merit?

yeah that wasn't a personal attack.

but anyway, no one - not even you - can prove that diet soda is GOOD for you, yes?

so what's wrong with getting rid of it on the off-chance all we crazy anti-aspartame people are actually right? she risks nothing in doing so, while you all are crossing your fingers and hoping science is serving you well this time.

Sure it was. And it was pretty overt as well. If you can't address the argument, try to discredit the person making the argument.

The onus is on the people making the claim that it's unhealthy. Not those asking for proof.

Also, I have not claimed that diet soda is good for anyone. I have only refuted the claim that it is bad for people. As far as I can tell, it's likely pretty neutral.

As to your last argument, consider: sleeping on your stomach might lead to death. No, I can't prove it, but why not just stop sleeping on your stomach. There's no risk and what if I'm right?

Sure, a wonderful way to live your life.

Don't worry. Many people believe many things without a shred of evidence. It's human nature and it doesn't make you special or weird or stupid.

Only on MFP will people argue that quitting Diet Coke is a bad thing

* Facepalm

Who said it was?