Cardio doesn't burn fat!!!

i will say ive done cuts before where i done 0 cardio and it took me nearly 20 weeks to get a decent 6 pack and this time ive been cutting for 2 weeks and im dropping a TON more weight than i did before, my strength is staying the same and i do 20 - 30 mins jogging every morning on a empty stomach, do what the hell you want, at the end of the day if you put the work into something and you want to achieve something so bad you will achieve it, no matter how you go around doing it

After reading all these posts, I think the point he was "trying" to make was at the end of the day deficit is a deficit if you have a deficit you will lose weight, but muscle burns more calories than fat does, Sooo by lifting and gaining more muscle you will there for burn more fat...... But you will still burn fat doing only cardio just not as quickly........ Right..... well at least that's what I got out of it. Now lets all have a protein shake and try to get along lol :bigsmile:

I agree with the OP. Cardio does zilch for burning fat. Diet is the key thing for fat loss. Too many people think because the do cardio, they have a golden ticket to eat junk food.

It's like a mutual support group of shirtless people...

The point is to burn calories, right? Most people get more banc for their buck doing cardio. Even hijgh MR circuit training is a cardio workout. The purpose of cardio is CR fitness.The more fit in the CR area a person is, the better able thy are to burn calories. If the heart isn't healthy you stand a chance of dieting younger. Buff but not healthy? A balanced program of strength, cardio, and flexibility insures better calorie burn in the long run. Most of the P90-X workouts combine elements of all three exercise types and a nutrition plan. All Beach-Body workouts do. That is why they are so successful. All successful programs include the four elements resistance, CR, flexibility, and nutrition.

I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Weight lifting on the other hand has been shown to accelerate fat loss by up to 50% than dieting alone or dieting and cardio.

I'm intrigued as I haven't come across this in my research thus far. I'd love to read the study. Can you send it to me? Thanks!

http://www.burnthefatblog.com/archives/2012/12/aerobic-vs-resistance-training-for-fat-loss.php
There are a lot of flaws in the Duke study.

First of all I agree about the Duke study BUT

"I believe, and actually the absolute data seems to confirm it, that resistance training plus aerobic training together trumps either type of training by itself. The study authors themselves point out that each type of training has its own set of benefits. But apparently, factoring in the increased time commitment of doing both, they judged in favor of aerobics only as the preferred option for decreasing fat mass."

Even the website you're quoting (which is hardly unbiased) would not agree with the OP. So whichever way you look at it discounting cardo as having no value apart from allowing you to eat more is pretty idiotic.

I agree with a combination of strength training and cardio. All I was trying to point out is that the Duke study shouldn't be viewed as conclusive.

I agree with the OP. Cardio does zilch for burning fat. Diet is the key thing for fat loss. Too many people think because the do cardio, they have a golden ticket to eat junk food.

Wrong.

Cardio can be used as a means of calorie reduction. You can only reduce calories so much from your diet. Regarding the junk food comment. You're wrong again.

Wrong about the junk food? What do you mean? Cardio can be used as a calorie reduction but in the grand scheme of things, it's not that much.

Now cardio does have it's place. If you are doing cardio for the heal benefits or training for a sport, then do cardio.

I do cardio so when zombies or a kidnapper chases after me, I can out run them. Seems beneficial to me.

I do it for the zombies.

to get ripped or get to a real low bf% cardio is totally irrelevant, you can get to to the body weight you want with diet and weight lifting alone, however cardio imo lets you be more flexible with your diet and it definitely speeds up the process of fat loss, if i didnt enjoy hiit cardio i wouldnt do it, but i do so i do it

actually you can get to any bodyweight you want without ANY cardio or lifting.

I agree with the OP. Cardio does zilch for burning fat. Diet is the key thing for fat loss. Too many people think because the do cardio, they have a golden ticket to eat junk food.

Wrong.

Cardio can be used as a means of calorie reduction. You can only reduce calories so much from your diet. Regarding the junk food comment. You're wrong again.

Wrong about the junk food? What do you mean? Cardio can be used as a calorie reduction but in the grand scheme of things, it's not that much.

Now cardio does have it's place. If you are doing cardio for the heal benefits or training for a sport, then do cardio.

There is no such thing as junk food.

Try being a chick for a week, being allowed to eat say 1200 calories (i.e. that means eating sweet bugger all in the way of food.. even healthy food).. then try being an active chick.. It sucks!! It's not about being able to eat junk food, its about being able to eat 3 meals a day without living on lettuce.

I burnt over 1500 calories mountain biking today.. will probably eat back about 500 of those so I don't starve tomorrow.. BUT I will still lose weight this week.. I do cardio 3 - 4 times a week and weight lifting twice a week, but have found the weight loss has increased hugely since I added more cardio.

Exercise burns calories.. if you haven't eaten those calories, then they are taken from fat stores and to a smaller degree from muscle mass.. but this isn't an issue if you continue to weight train.

I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

I would also like to see any proof God exists if anyone cares to discuss the available evidence. I do understand cardio seems to be a sensitive topic around here, let's just discuss another topic until everyone calms down.

You, most likely, just gave cause for this thread to be deleted.

Many people seem to just enjoy cardio in a sadistic type of way so much that they miss the whole point of my post. Let me restate it again in a way a grade 5 kid would hopefully understand:

If by the end of the day you're at an x net calorie intake, it will not make a difference in terms of body composition whether or not you had done cardio that day. HOWEVER, if you do weight lifting while still at that same x net calorie intake, you will end up with less fat, more muscle than if you had not.

In a sadistic type of way? Do you mean masochistic? I don't know how them doing cardio gives them pleasure if they are being sadistic because they aren't causing anyone else pain..just themselves.

Not being a grammar nazi or anything...just trying to verify what you meant to make sure I'm understanding everything you are saying. :flowerforyou: