Where's the evidence re: aspartame, msg, carbs, gmo etc?
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Acg67
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The purpose of this thread is simple, if you think aspartame, msg, carbs, gmo foods, animal protein etc etc are bad for you, simply post a few links to the human studies that show it is bad for you. This is not for conspiracies on why there is no evidence something is harmful, simply present some of the current literature that shows that it is.
With all the people here who climb out the woodwork to tell people how bad something is, surely there is evidence that those people are basing their conclusions on.
Note: This is not saying that if there is no evidence something is bad for you, that it is good for you. Just at the present time, there is no evidence to warrant the fear mongering over such substances.
With all the people here who climb out the woodwork to tell people how bad something is, surely there is evidence that those people are basing their conclusions on.
Note: This is not saying that if there is no evidence something is bad for you, that it is good for you. Just at the present time, there is no evidence to warrant the fear mongering over such substances.
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Wanna see a picture of me with hives when I eat MSG? It's sexy. Honest.
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If my grandma were a member, she'd be attaching newspaper clippings about cancer. I still get them in the mail...thank God she doesn't have email. I absolutely agree with you though.0
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Wanna see a picture of me with hives when I eat MSG? It's sexy. Honest.
*lick lick*
An allergy to a certain food item, does not mean that it is harmful to the average person, just you. I know lots of people that are allergic to peanuts and/or milk, but neither one of those things deserves to be labeled as bad. It is bad for them, but not as a standard.
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From what I have read about it, the most dangerous things about GMO foods is #1) no one is required to study their long term effects prior to releasing them into the food supply and #2) the potential for cross pollination between GMO fields and non-GMO fields is fairly high - making even the effort to label GMO foods as such, nearly useless.0
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In, because I like to learn stuff.0
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Wanna see a picture of me with hives when I eat MSG? It's sexy. Honest.
*lick lick*
An allergy to a certain food item, does not mean that it is harmful to the average person, just you. I know lots of people that are allergic to peanuts and/or milk, but neither one of those things deserves to be labeled as bad. It is bad for them, but not as a standard.
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I was just offering up sexy pics, yo.0 -
It's funny how quiet it gets when people ask for facts instead of opinion :laugh:
Increasing brain tumor rates: is there a link to aspartame?
http://europepmc.org/abstract/MED/8939194/reload=0;jsessionid=NdUepxNYjxYdskJaLoaH.6
"The recent finding that the aspartame molecule has mutagenic potential, and the close temporal association (aspartame was introduced into US food and beverage markets several years prior to the sharp increase in brain tumor incidence and malignancy). We conclude that there is need for reassessing the carcinogenic potential of aspartame."0 -
I was just offering up sexy pics, yo.
Well in that case, can you post a pic of you eating a pickle? LOL oh..wait.0 -
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To my knowledge...
Aspartame is fine, unless you have problems digesting phenylalanine (PKU if you know what that is.)
MSG is fine unless excessive amounts are used
Carbohydrates are fine unless they cannot be regulated.
GMO, Not sure where you're going with this.0 -
I was just offering up sexy pics, yo.
Well in that case, can you post a pic of you eating a pickle? LOL oh..wait.
You should see what happens when I eat avocado
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Does Jessie Ventura's website count as evidence? j/k
It actually would be nice to see some peer reviewed studies on those topics. I honestly want to know if there is evidence.0 -
It's funny how quiet it gets when people ask for facts instead of opinion :laugh:
Increasing brain tumor rates: is there a link to aspartame?
http://europepmc.org/abstract/MED/8939194/reload=0;jsessionid=NdUepxNYjxYdskJaLoaH.6
"The recent finding that the aspartame molecule has mutagenic potential, and the close temporal association (aspartame was introduced into US food and beverage markets several years prior to the sharp increase in brain tumor incidence and malignancy). We conclude that there is need for reassessing the carcinogenic potential of aspartame."
This study only suggests that an increase in brain tumors has occurred since the introduction of aspartame. It does not exclude other potential factors, and recommends more formal studies be performed to examine the possibility that aspartame could be the cause for the rise in brain tumors. Only reading the abstract, I'm not sure if they identified specific types of brain tumors or just brain tumors in general. This study is not definitive.0 -
... simply post a few links to the human studies...
The majority of studies that the science community has completed have been animal based. It is those findings that is behind the scientific community calling for the FDA to fully/futher evaluate the health effects of those chemicals and such. Also, the time frame in which this concern has come to the fore front is relatively short - probably back to just around 2005. The very few human studies have been done are of a short time frame, have small sampling sizes, and have been somewhat non-conclusive.
The studies I have seen relating things like soft drinks and such to cardiovascualr disease and what not, I still think that is just related to over indulgence of sugars and carbs. I dunno about that.
Mmmmm....Pepsi.0 -
The studies I have seen relating things like soft drinks and such to cardiovascualr disease and what not, I still think that is just related to over indulgence of sugars and carbs. I dunno about that.
Mmmmm....Pepsi.
I would take it a step further and say that it's related to the overindulgence of calories which leads to obesity which causes all kinds of issues.0 -
It's funny how quiet it gets when people ask for facts instead of opinion :laugh:
Increasing brain tumor rates: is there a link to aspartame?
http://europepmc.org/abstract/MED/8939194/reload=0;jsessionid=NdUepxNYjxYdskJaLoaH.6
"The recent finding that the aspartame molecule has mutagenic potential, and the close temporal association (aspartame was introduced into US food and beverage markets several years prior to the sharp increase in brain tumor incidence and malignancy). We conclude that there is need for reassessing the carcinogenic potential of aspartame."
This study only suggests that an increase in brain tumors has occurred since the introduction of aspartame. It does not exclude other potential factors, and recommends more formal studies be performed to examine the possibility that aspartame could be the cause for the rise in brain tumors. Only reading the abstract, I'm not sure if they identified specific types of brain tumors or just brain tumors in general. This study is not definitive.
Additionally, the particular rat study that they are using re: brain tumor incidence showed issues beginning at a dosage equivalent to around 20mg/kg. For a 220lb male, this is 2000mg which is equivalent to 11 cans of diet soda per day.
Granted, this does fall well under the current ADI.0
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