A Calorie is a Caloire is a...... let's compare...
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Depends on your goals. If it's just weight loss you are after, either one. But if you are going for health, the salmon is a better choice. Steak, egg, and cheese is a saturated fat bonanza. Plus loads of sodium. If heart health is important to you, the salmon is a much better choice. But the context is important too. If you normally eat a heart healthy diet, a steak, egg, and cheese burrito on occasion would be doable.0
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I would eat option one since I don't like borritos, but love salmon.:laugh:0
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90% of the time- I'd choose the salmon. Maybe even 99%.
Once in a blue moon I'd get the burrito, but that's rare.
I actually ENJOY eating this way now. Never thought I'd say that!! Been about five years of eating healthy, and it's just a way of life for me. My husband and son will order that burrito right in front of me, and I don't even flinch.0 -
Yep - you've made your point - a calorie is NOT always a calorie.
No way I'd want to eat the first option, ta!
As far as weight loss goes - if the person was generally healthy and had met their macros, I doubt either would make any noticeable difference to their state of health.
In relation to carbs:
http://www.simplyshredded.com/the-science-of-nutrition-is-a-carb-a-carb.html
>>This is an example of a ceiling effect. You can’t fix what isn’t broken, so if you’re already healthy, eating ‘healthy’ foods at some point stops making you even healthier.<<0 -
Option one, but just because I love quinoa and eat it daily. Just my personal preference. I also love almonds.0
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Neither.
Who eats 4oz of salmon? It's not even worth heating a pan to fry it in! Double it at least and I'll get back to you.0 -
Your Buddy is right, a Calorie is a Calorie, but the difference/concern is: What will your body get out of the most?
Prob the Salmon.
Keep in mind, you could have a 1000 calories worth of Twinkee's/HO'Ho's and still loose weight0 -
The macros are the same? So how would it make a difference? It's not like it is the salmon meal vs 3 doughnuts?
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I'd go with either. Both sound delicious. Second option has slightly more protein for slightly less calories so I might choose that, but I do love salmon and quinoa as well.
This might be relevant, if anyone is interested:
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/hormonal-responses-to-a-fast-food-meal-compared-with-nutritionally-comparable-meals-of-different-composition-research-review.html
"In terms of the hormonal response, clean vs. unclean just doesn’t matter, it’s all about calories and macros. "0 -
In all honesty, I don't think I'd eat either one as presented.
Too many carbs (for me) and no veggies. I'd eat the burrito without the tortilla and add some fresh pico de gallo and some hot carrots. I'd eat the salmon with a smaller portion of quinoa and rice (maybe 20 carbs' worth), add some steamed veggies with butter, and skip the almonds.0 -
All calories are not equal by any means0
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Well, a calorie is just a measure of energy, nothing more, so in that context a calorie is just a calorie and not to be confused with food preferences where their matrix is composed of different nutrients, which can have advantages or disadvantages for individuals and their goals based on context and dosage. Either meal could be beneficial depending on what else that person ate on any given day.0
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Burrito sounds lovely but it is the quality that would make me take the first choice. While caloric intake might be virtually the same ( and many foods are) the fats are not the same one is beneficial the other type is not.. just my take on it.0
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A calorie is a unit of heat. Everyone is comparing stuff that are not calories.
From Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_of_energyFood industry
The calorie equals the amount of thermal energy necessary to raise the temperature of one gram of water by 1 Celsius degree, at a pressure of 1 atm. For thermochemistry a calorie of 4.184 J is used, but other calories have also been defined, such as the International Steam Table calorie of 4.1868 J. Food energy is measured in large calories or kilocalories, often simply written capitalized as "Calories" (= 103 calories).
I'd eat the burrito, between two pop tarts.0 -
actually there was nutrition professor who proved that to his students, using twinkies and junk food. He stayed within his calorie range and did his normal exercise routine.. dropped 27 pounds....0
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THIS.Well, a calorie is just a measure of energy, nothing more, so in that context a calorie is just a calorie and not to be confused with food preferences where their matrix is composed of different nutrients, which can have advantages or disadvantages for individuals and their goals based on context and dosage. Either meal could be beneficial depending on what else that person ate on any given day.
When people disagree with "a calorie is just a calorie" they are disagreeing on macronutrient content. A calorie is just a calorie. The measurement of energy is the same within everyone and one calorie of protein is equal to one calorie of carbs is equal to one calorie of fat.
On a macronutrient/micronutrient level is where they differ and react in the body.
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normally I would go option 1..
but if it was after a day sitting on the beach or if I was nursing a hangover I would go with the burrito...0 -
No brainer! Steak and egg burrito wins by a landslide!0
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actually there was nutrition professor who proved that to his students, using twinkies and junk food. He stayed within his calorie range and did his normal exercise routine.. dropped 27 pounds....
Meanwhile becoming deficient in probably all of his micro nutrients. Many people are overfed or adequately fed and still starving; he is a perfect example of that.0 -
Burrito all the way. Quinoa and Salmon, blech!
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I'd eat either. They both sound like my kind of food.
One substantive comment, though: nutrients from almonds are not as bioavailable as nutrients from other fat- and protein-rich foods, possibly because of all the fiber in the almonds. So 160/170 calories of almonds may be less calories than 170 calories of, say, cheese. I gladly scarf down both almonds and cheese, though.0 -
But that's not the debate if the argument is a "calorie is a calorie".actually there was nutrition professor who proved that to his students, using twinkies and junk food. He stayed within his calorie range and did his normal exercise routine.. dropped 27 pounds....
Meanwhile becoming deficient in probably all of his micro nutrients. Many people are overfed or adequately fed and still starving; he is a perfect example of that.
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But that's not the debate if the argument is a "calorie is a calorie".actually there was nutrition professor who proved that to his students, using twinkies and junk food. He stayed within his calorie range and did his normal exercise routine.. dropped 27 pounds....
Meanwhile becoming deficient in probably all of his micro nutrients. Many people are overfed or adequately fed and still starving; he is a perfect example of that.
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Is an inch and inch? It's the same thing, the between the lines argument is that all calories are the same as long as you eat xx number of them, which they are NOT. The debate has context.0 -
I'd probably take the first because I'd be worried about the sodium in the second. However, IIFYM as far as I'm concerned. If I felt like junk food that day, I'd rock that junk food.0
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All CALORIES are the same in energy value whether they come from a burrito or salmon if the calorie count is the same. 200 calories of sugar is EXACTLY the same as 200 calories of steak when you measure them in CALORIE value. You're debating on "how" they are processed. That's a different debate.
But that's not the debate if the argument is a "calorie is a calorie".actually there was nutrition professor who proved that to his students, using twinkies and junk food. He stayed within his calorie range and did his normal exercise routine.. dropped 27 pounds....
Meanwhile becoming deficient in probably all of his micro nutrients. Many people are overfed or adequately fed and still starving; he is a perfect example of that.
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Is an inch and inch? It's the same thing, the between the lines argument is that all calories are the same as long as you eat xx number of them, which they are NOT. The debate has context.
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Your argument is "not all calories are created equal", which is correct and gets confused it appears most of the time, with the "calorie is a calorie" debate..the confusion will continue forever no doubt..
But that's not the debate if the argument is a "calorie is a calorie".actually there was nutrition professor who proved that to his students, using twinkies and junk food. He stayed within his calorie range and did his normal exercise routine.. dropped 27 pounds....
Meanwhile becoming deficient in probably all of his micro nutrients. Many people are overfed or adequately fed and still starving; he is a perfect example of that.
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Is an inch and inch? It's the same thing, the between the lines argument is that all calories are the same as long as you eat xx number of them, which they are NOT. The debate has context.0 -
Neither.. they both have cereal grains.
Give me a poached egg, some salmon, asparagus and a wee bit of hollandaise. YUMMMMMMMMMM!
I believe that when it comes to strictly weight loss and creating a caloric deficit.. a calorie, is a calorie, is a calorie.
BUT.. when it comes to things like the psychological aspect, food triggers, general nutrition, satiety, muscle maintenance, etc.. then all calories are not equal. I would definitely gain weight eating a diet high cereal grains, even whole grains, not because they are "different calories" but because I couldn't stick with my caloric maximums and I would overeat for what my body required... I'm pretty sure that's how I made it to 360 pounds! Also nutritionally is 100 grams of kale equal to half a tablespoon of hydrogenated vegetable oil? I mean they have the same calories.. but of course they're not at all equal when it comes to fueling your body. many people on here are just concerned with losing weight and don't care about this and yes, they'll lose no matter their source of calories.. many more people on here are just concerned with "meeting their macros" which will help with their body composition. For me I'm most concerned with meeting my macro AND EXCEEDING my micronutrient goals.
Also there ARE those people who are genetic freaks. I'm a genetic freak myself.. Despite being hypothyroid and having no gallbladder, my cholesterol levels are freakishly low but with good HDL:LDL ratios... even at my highest weight. I've had more than one doctor second guess my cholesterol levels as seemingly impossibly low. Last time I had them checked (about a week ago) All of my cholesterol levels came back in red.. meaning they were outside of the norm.. All were lower than normal range. I don't do anything special to cause this other than eat a lot of vegetables and try to take it easy on the refined foods.. I eat tons of eggs and shrimp and high cholesterol foods .. My body simply doesn't produce a lot of cholesterol, and it gets rid of the cholesterol that I eat. You couldn't look to me as an example of how to have low cholesterol just like you can't look to your friend as an example of how to maintain low bodyfat. We are both outside of the norms, blessed with a genetic predisposition.0 -
I'd have to calorie that salmon up with buttter and seasonings just because fish isnt my favorite.
Just for grins can you post the fiber content of each meal and the general weight of the burrito?0 -
But that's not the debate if the argument is a "calorie is a calorie".actually there was nutrition professor who proved that to his students, using twinkies and junk food. He stayed within his calorie range and did his normal exercise routine.. dropped 27 pounds....
Meanwhile becoming deficient in probably all of his micro nutrients. Many people are overfed or adequately fed and still starving; he is a perfect example of that.
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Is an inch and inch? It's the same thing, the between the lines argument is that all calories are the same as long as you eat xx number of them, which they are NOT. The debate has context.
Yes, an inch is an inch and a gallon is a gallon, and pound is a pound, and a kilowatt is a kilowatt, and a calorie is a calorie. This is what we call "standardized units of measurement." :flowerforyou:0
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