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    • Posts: 4,404 Member
      I would go for the salmon, just have no interest in things like Burritos, and I love quinoa, salmon and almonds anyway, but I would have to add some veggies to the meal. In fact, baked salmon, sweet potato and veggies is often a dinner for me.
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      absolutely. **** i had another pop tart this morning! (i mean i bought the box, i'm not gonna let them go to waste) but is your diet *primarily* processed? do you eat more processed foods than unprocessed?
      80/20 eater. I have acquaintances at the gym that eat WAY cleaner than I do and can't achieve a pullup even though they strength wise should be able to (they can pull their weight and even a little more on a lat pull down, but not on a pullup).
      But it can go the other way if someone has need of higher calories than "clean" food can provide. For instance, I would bet on a % basis Michael Phelps has to eat more processed than clean foods to reach a calorie count of 10,000 and not feel full while he has to train. Unless there's some magical high calorie clean food that won't give you the runs from eating too much of it.

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      80/20 eater. I have acquaintances at the gym that eat WAY cleaner than I do and can't achieve a pullup even though they strength wise should be able to (they can pull their weight and even a little more on a lat pull down, but not on a pullup).
      But it can go the other way if someone has need of higher calories than "clean" food can provide. For instance, I would bet on a % basis Michael Phelps has to eat more processed than clean foods to reach a calorie count of 10,000 and not feel full while he has to train. Unless there's some magical high calorie clean food that won't give you the runs from eating too much of it.

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      http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/item_If94aq4HRyzXDJ5S2ySliI;jsessionid=846116E3BD2D88F00508893281BDB45F

      Pasta, fried eggs, sandwiches loaded with mayo and white bread, energy drinks, and lots and lots of pizza.
    • Posts: 111
      You can rack up alot of calories fast eating clean with nuts, seeds, flax seed, coconut & olive oil.
      Does "clean" mean no meat or just organics?
      Because then you can add steak, beef, pork, chicken and even fish.
      I'm not sure exactly how to get to 10,000 but I can easily get to 2,500 and still have room for lots more.
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      A calorie is a calorie is not my idea of health. The more raw the better. Gods food is perfect in everyway. The mentality that a calorie is a calorie is why we have so many obese people in the world.

      lol no.
    • Posts: 111
      I read your link and more power to him. Just imagine how hard he must train to keep that slim/ripped physique.

      Ladies and anyone over 40 eating for "health", as I do, could not do that.

      I guess it all depends on what you're here for.
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      love salmon, hate quinoa.

      sub some potatoes for the quinoa + brown rice monstrosity and then count me in for #1
    • Posts: 91 Member
      I'm all for burritos, but I know that if I ate the first meal I would be more satisfied and more full. Sodium... oh how I love it... but once you start you can't stop eating!
    • Posts: 111
      I read your link and more power to him. Just imagine how hard he must train to keep that slim/ripped physique.

      Ladies and anyone over 40 eating for "health", as I do, could not do that.

      I guess it all depends on what you're here for.

      Correction, It depends on how hard you train. But I eat & train to live, not live to eat & train
    • Posts: 49,175 Member
      You can rack up alot of calories fast eating clean with nuts, seeds, flax seed, coconut & olive oil.
      Does "clean" mean no meat or just organics?
      Because then you can add steak, beef, pork, chicken and even fish.
      I'm not sure exactly how to get to 10,000 but I can easily get to 2,500 and still have room for lots more.
      That's 3 times more than you're eating now.........................and then have to train for 4-6 hours a day. Tell me you wouldn't throw up if you had to eat 3 more times than you're doing now and train your own training session for just 2 hours?
      Don't you think that an Olympic athlete who needs that much would rather get it from clean foods if they actually could without it interrupting their training?

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      That's 3 times more than you're eating now.........................and then have to train for 4-6 hours a day. Tell me you wouldn't throw up if you had to eat 3 more times than you're doing now and train your own training session for just 2 hours?
      Don't you think that an Olympic athlete who needs that much would rather get it from clean foods if they actually could without it interrupting their training?

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      I'm not sure what we're debating here. I agree 100%.
      Btw, I don't eat 2500 calls. I'm small. But I DO understand his need for that.
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      I'm not sure what we're debating here. I agree 100%.
      Btw, I don't eat 2500 calls. I'm small. But I DO understand his need for that.

      ... and a female. So no I can't comprehend what is appetite is like. I'm not as active as he is either. So he eats junk, he looks great. I'm talking about HEALTH. (Brain food, good eyes, a digestive system that doesn't want to shut down on you, cholesterol, ...etc.) I'm sure his numbers are in check exercising the way he does. Mine are OUTSTANDING doing 1/8 of what he does, but I eat right.
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      the second this argument became about michael phelps is the moment it stopped being relevant to anything we were talking about before.
    • Posts: 10,161 Member
      ... and a female. So no I can't comprehend what is appetite is like. I'm not as active as he is either. So he eats junk, he looks great. I'm talking about HEALTH. (Brain food, good eyes, a digestive system that doesn't want to shut down on you, cholesterol, ...etc.) I'm sure his numbers are in check exercising the way he does. Mine are OUTSTANDING doing 1/8 of what he does, but I eat right.

      That's kind of the point, isn't it? What you eat doesn't matter all that much. What matters is your lifestyle and calorie balance. When you get the correct number of calories to be a healthy weight and get plenty of exercise, that's 90% of the battle. Most of the last 10% is macronutrient intake. A tiny tiny portion may be micronutrient intake, with most of even that small amount being taken care of by a normal diet with a multivitamin and maybe 1 or 2 other things like fish oil. The tiny tiny tiny leftover part is basically "who knows?"
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      Good point!
      and I don't see it as an argument. Just opinions. And I always welcome opinions.
    • Posts: 10,161 Member
      the second this argument became about michael phelps is the moment it stopped being relevant to anything we were talking about before.

      I think it's still relevant. The man eats mountains of junk while training and his health is probably phenomenally good. Sugar, grease, refined and processed foods out the wazoo. And yet he's still the best the world has ever seen at what he does, and his health is probably excellent.
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      That's kind of the point, isn't it? What you eat doesn't matter all that much. What matters is your lifestyle and calorie balance. When you get the correct number of calories to be a healthy weight and get plenty of exercise, that's 90% of the battle. Most of the last 10% is macronutrient intake. A tiny tiny portion may be micronutrient intake, with most of even that small amount being taken care of by a normal diet with a multivitamin and maybe 1 or 2 other things like fish oil. The tiny tiny tiny leftover part is basically "who knows?"
      EXACTLY!!!!!!
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      DON'T FORGET THE DRUG USE. LMBO!
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      I think it's still relevant. The man eats mountains of junk while training and his health is probably phenomenally good. Sugar, grease, refined and processed foods out the wazoo. And yet he's still the best the world has ever seen at what he does, and his health is probably excellent.

      lol because he trains all friggin day and BURNS that many calories! the moment he stops training that hard is the moment he has to start eating healthier foods. has literally nothing to do with ANYONE who uses MFP
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      Burrito ! I had popcorn and a smoothie for dinner and it was way less calories then my usual super healthy dinner. !
    • Posts: 10,161 Member
      lol because he trains all friggin day and BURNS that many calories! the moment he stops training that hard is the moment he has to start eating healthier foods. has literally nothing to do with ANYONE who uses MFP

      "he... BURNS that many calories!"

      Well... yeah. That's what I'm saying. His caloric intake is appropriate and he gets plenty of exercise. That's the "secret" to being healthy.
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      "he... BURNS that many calories!"

      Well... yeah. That's what I'm saying. His caloric intake is appropriate and he gets plenty of exercise. That's the "secret" to being healthy.

      says the guy who feels "old" and "tired" at 31 :wink:
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      says the guy who feels "old" and "tired" at 31 :wink:

      That's nonsense and borders on a personal attack. I never said I feel "old and tired."
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      That's nonsense and borders on a personal attack. I never said I feel "old and tired."

      alright let's quit while we're behind. :smile:
    • Posts: 2,219 Member
      whoa, is this still going on? While you guys were arguing I went for a run :P
    • Posts: 10,161 Member
      whoa, is this still going on? While you guys were arguing I went for a run :P

      I put in 20 minutes on the treadmill then played a 2-hour singles tennis match. Time to veg. ;)
    • Posts: 550 Member
      Everybody, in the worlds of Caboose, "Funerals are sad, so we should have a birthday party instead! Yes!!! Let there be cake! Um hallelujah, Geshundite" ^_^
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      what the **** do you do to work out!? 6,000 cal today???
    • Posts: 2,197 Member
      micro-nutrients or lack their of...

      because you know things like sugar, fiber, minerals etc. don't affect the body at all.
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