The udder truth
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Wow, you guys are brutal. She did some research and wanted to share what she learned. The facts are out there, but you have to find the research not paid for by the dairy industry. BTW, your hormones are directly linked to what you eat. To claim that something is completely hormone driven & has no correlation to what you eat is ignorance at best. Every part of your health is linked to what you eat.
Thank you. I don't know why people get so aggressive. I am not trying to convert people, I just have come to know a lot of people, though meeting lots of raw foodists and vegans who have had so many health benefits- myself included- and I want to encourage others to research the same way I did. I used to be the same way, so I don't get mad when people are aggressive like this. My favorite food on the planet was cheese, and I used to eat a high protein (meat) diet.
I have personally had so many benefits- weight loss, sleeping better, acid reflux, clearer skin thicker hair and nails, MORE energy, and over all I am so happy. Why wouldn't I want to share this with others? If they don't want to listen, I understand.
I get this same benefit when I boil down a chicken or turkey carcass or use beef bones to make soup . . . I don't go running around waving my hands like olive oil telling people that if they're not using a 2 day process to make soup base they're doing it wrong. You were not trying to educate, you were trying to inflame. If you were attempting to educate you would have linked to reputable scientific resources supporting your stance, instead you linked to a propaganda publication . . . that's when your statement lost my respect and attention.
You post feels very much like this:
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Wow, you guys are brutal. She did some research and wanted to share what she learned. The facts are out there, but you have to find the research not paid for by the dairy industry. BTW, your hormones are directly linked to what you eat. To claim that something is completely hormone driven & has no correlation to what you eat is ignorance at best. Every part of your health is linked to what you eat.
Thank you. I don't know why people get so aggressive. I am not trying to convert people, I just have come to know a lot of people, though meeting lots of raw foodists and vegans who have had so many health benefits- myself included- and I want to encourage others to research the same way I did. I used to be the same way, so I don't get mad when people are aggressive like this. My favorite food on the planet was cheese, and I used to eat a high protein (meat) diet.
I have personally had so many benefits- weight loss, sleeping better, acid reflux, clearer skin thicker hair and nails, MORE energy, and over all I am so happy. Why wouldn't I want to share this with others? If they don't want to listen, I understand.
I get this same benefit when I boil down a chicken or turkey carcass or use beef bones to make soup . . . I don't go running around waving my hands like olive oil telling people that if they're not using a 2 day process to make soup base they're doing it wrong. You were not trying to educate, you were trying to inflame. If you were attempting to educate you would have linked to reputable scientific resources supporting your stance, instead you linked to a propaganda publication . . . that's when your statement lost my respect and attention.
You post feels very much like this:
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That is not what you said in your OP. You just stated "milk is linked to causing these illness" and then proceeded to list almost every ailment known to God and man.I completely understand people's defensive reaction to this post, but please do the research. The milk industry spends hundreds of millions of dollars just in advertisement. They have programed people to think that dairy is needed, but ask someone that's Lacto-Intolerant, you can very easily get calcium from other means. Actually, there is a correlation between countries with high dairy intake and osteoporosis. This is because calcium from dairy does not get absorbed by the body in the same way as calcium from say broccoli.
I am not telling people NOT to consume dairy, I am merely pointing our that if you have certain conditions, you might want to think about the amount of dairy you consume. Do an experiment- try cutting it down (out) for a week, see how you feel. If you feel better, great! If not, go back to dairy.
I am not dogmatic, I just want to spread the knowledge that has been passed onto me, and has made such a difference in my health and quality of life.
Never once did you mention lacto intolerance.
Your original post is scaremongering at its best.
I didn't mean that just lacto people have these symptoms a lot of people can drink dairy and have aggrevated symptoms. I just meant that people who are lacto or vegan or choose not to drink dairy, have ALL found ways to get their calcium.
Look obviously, people will eat whatever they are going to eat, but if people want to really educate themselves on the truth about the food industry then will be healthier for it. We have an obesity epidemic in this country - why do you think this is? Because the "food" that people are eating is NOT the same food as it was before. It's refined, highly processed, full of chemicals, and body altering ingredients.
I doubt there are very many people here who only drink milk to get their calcium. I think the vast majority of us know that there are plenty of other ways to get calcium. We drink it because we like it.
Also, I get my milk from a local dairy that is certified humane, allows the cows to milk themselves, doesn't give the cows growth hormones, and doesn't give them antibiotics unless they are actually sick. Plus, they deliver my dairy products and eggs (and pickles, they have the best pickles) to my door on a weekly basis. It is fabulous. You should totally try it.0 -
Wow, you guys are brutal. She did some research and wanted to share what she learned. The facts are out there, but you have to find the research not paid for by the dairy industry. BTW, your hormones are directly linked to what you eat. To claim that something is completely hormone driven & has no correlation to what you eat is ignorance at best. Every part of your health is linked to what you eat.
Thank you. I don't know why people get so aggressive. I am not trying to convert people, I just have come to know a lot of people, though meeting lots of raw foodists and vegans who have had so many health benefits- myself included- and I want to encourage others to research the same way I did. I used to be the same way, so I don't get mad when people are aggressive like this. My favorite food on the planet was cheese, and I used to eat a high protein (meat) diet.
I have personally had so many benefits- weight loss, sleeping better, acid reflux, clearer skin thicker hair and nails, MORE energy, and over all I am so happy. Why wouldn't I want to share this with others? If they don't want to listen, I understand.
I eat a high protein (nonmeat) diet. And if by "aggressive" you mean "they didn't agree with me and pointed out that I was quoting pseudoscience" it's because we've learned that pseudoscience isn't helpful and wanted to share that with you.0 -
Also , these foods were linked to the disorders
Acne - caffiene
Arthritis - eggplant
Asthma - onion rings
Autism - wheat
Breast Cancer - soy
Colon Cancer - french fries
Constipation - chocolate
Cramps - red meat
Depression - canned food
Diabetes - hot dogs
Diarrhea - hot peppers
Ear Infections - canola oil
Eczema - eggs
Emphysema - cabbage
Headaches - red wine
High Cholesterol - ice cream
Hyperactivity - blueberries
Increased mucus - cashews
OSTEOPOROSIS - alcohol
a super quick google search gave me these. And I read them on the Internet, so they must be true. Can't put anything that isn't true on the internet. Oh, by the way, I am a French Model..... Bonjour0 -
Someone knows how to google search...0
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Can we have a separate board for fringe evangelicals, please?
I second this idea! Give them their own place to preach their silliness.0 -
Perhaps people are showing their displeasure because you're encouraging others to do inconclusive research from sources considered to be poor?and I want to encourage others to research the same way I did. I used to be the same way, so I don't get mad when people are aggressive like this. My favorite food on the planet was cheese, and I used to eat a high protein (meat) diet.
I have personally had so many benefits- weight loss, sleeping better, acid reflux, clearer skin thicker hair and nails, MORE energy, and over all I am so happy. Why wouldn't I want to share this with others? If they don't want to listen, I understand.
I presume you're not actually suggesting that previously you did better research and got aggressive towards people that had poor sources for their own?
Bar the acid reflux (something I've never had I don't think), I could list all those as benefits while I ate loads of dairy, cheap meat and the like.
I suspect in reality I was healthier because I was doing more exercise.
Oh and here's some more stuff to avoid!
http://hellokinsella.posterous.com/the-daily-mail-list-of-things-that-give-you-c0 -
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**************** COW'S MILK AND DAIRY (approx 3000 words)
By Dave Rietz, WEBmaster www.notmilk.com
Yes... mother natures "perfect food" ... for a calf!
[Until it's weaned]
Everything you know about cow's milk and dairy is probably part of a
Dairy industry MYTH! Cow's milk is an unhealthy fluid from diseased
animals that has a wide range of dangerous and disease-causing
substances that have a cumulative negative effect on all who consume it.
Basic Contents:
*ALL* cow's milk has 59 active hormones, scores of allergens, fat and
cholesterol. Most cow's milk has measurable quantities of herbicides,
pesticides, dioxin's (up to 200 times the safe levels), up to 52
powerful antibiotics (perhaps 53 with LS-50), blood, pus, feces,
bacteria and viruses. (Cow's milk can have traces of anything the cow
ate... including such things as radioactive fallout from nuke testing
... (the 50's strontium-90 problem).
The leading causes of death are:
http://webapp.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/leadcaus.html (1998)
Rank Total Description
1 724,859 Heart Disease (think fats/cholesterol: meat,dairy)
2 541,532 Malignant Neoplasms (cancer: think toxins/milk/dairy)
2a 250,000 Medical system (drugs/etc. Think ignorance/incompetence)
3 158,448 Cerebro-vascular (think meat milk and dairy)
4 112,584 Bronchitis Emphysema Asthma (think toxins/milk/dairy)
5 97,835 Unintentional Inj & Adv. Effects
6 91,871 Pneumonia & Influenza (think weak immune systems and mucus)
7 64,751 Diabetes (think milk/dairy)
7a 40,000+ highway slaughter (men, women and children)
8 30,575 Suicide (think behavioral problems)
9 26,182 Nephritis (Bright's disease: inflammation of the kidneys)
10 25,192 Liver Disease (think alcohol and other toxins)
(2a and 7a were added for completeness)
(note: Number 13 on the CDC list is -18,272 Homicide & Legal
Intervention-. It is curious that the CDC would readily list law
enforcement and homicides... and not the 250,000 deaths caused by
the medical system!)
**** Cancer "Fuel Cell":
Of those 59 hormones one is a powerful GROWTH hormone called Insulin-
like Growth Factor ONE (IGF-1). By a freak of nature it is identical
between cows and humans. Consider this hormone to be a "fuel cell" for
any cancer... (the medical world says IGF-1 is a key factor in the rapid
growth and proliferation of breast, prostate and colon cancers, and we
suspect that most likely it will be found to promote ALL cancers).
IGF-1 is a normal part of ALL milk... the newborn is SUPPOSED to grow
quickly! What makes the 50% of obese American consumers think they
need MORE growth? Consumers don't think anything about it because they
do not have a clue to the problem... nor do most of our doctors.
(See http://www.notmilk.com/igf1time.txt for a time line)
**** Quantity
Each bite of hard cheese has TEN TIMES whatever was in that sip of
milk... because it takes ten pounds of milk to make one pound of cheese.
Each bite of ice cream has 12 times ... and every swipe of butter 21
times whatever is contained in the fat molecules in a sip of milk.
**** Monsanto and rbGH (Posilac)
Monsanto Chemical Co., maker of fine poisons such as DDT, agent
orange, Roundup and more... spent around half a billion dollars
inventing a shot to inject into cows... to force a cow to produce MORE
milk (for an already glutted taxpayer subsidized market).
Unfortunately, they created *FIVE* errors in their Frankenstein
Posilac (rbGH) shot that direly affected all test animals... but that
important report (Richard, Odaglia & Deslex, 1989) has been hidden from
everyone under Clinton's Trade Secrets act. The Canadians read enough
of this report (before it was stolen) to reject rbGH for their country.
Monsanto's Posilac creates additional IGF-1 in milk: up to 80% more.
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) insists that IGF-1 is destroyed
in the stomach. If that were true, the FDA has proven that
breast feeding cannot work. Common sense says their "finding" is
ridiculous because this growth factor DOES make the baby calf grow
(rapidly, as mother natured intended). Visit the Dairy Education Board
at http://www.notmilk.com/deb/100399.html to review a DAIRY study that
confirms what the FDA has lied about this for years.
**** IGF-1 increases
This study involved two groups. One group consuming 12 ounces of
milk a day and the other consuming the USDA recommended allowance of 24
ounces (three cups). This report notes that the participants consuming
12 ounces more milk per day... HAD A 10% RISE IN IGF-1 IN THEIR BLOOD
SERUM! Now, consider that PER DAY, from ALL sources, the typical
milk/dairy consumer ingests approximately 39% of daily diet from
dairy... and that 10% increase becomes the "tip of the iceberg". We
have NO idea of the non-dairy versus full-dairy difference but
considering cancer rates... it has to be significant.
**** Fat
Whole milk 49% of the calories are from fat.
"2%" milk 35% of the calories are from fat.
Cheddar cheese 74% of the calories are from fat.
Butter 100% of the calories are from fat.
Most folks suspect that butter is all fat. Most folks have no concept
of the just how much fat is in the rest of milk and dairy. Perhaps the
54% of Americans who are obese need to comprehend that milk, ice cream,
cheeses, yogurts, and all the OTHER products that use milk derivatives
(casein, whey, lactose, colostrum) are most likely a significant cause
for their weight and health problem.
**** Calcium
Calcium? Where do the COWS get calcium for their big bones? Yes...
from plants! The calcium they consume from plants has a large amount of
magnesium... necessary for the body to absorb and USE the calcium.
The calcium in cow's milk is basically useless because it has
insufficient magnesium content (those nations with the highest amount of
milk/dairy consumption also have the highest rates of osteoporosis.
Proof? How about a controlled study of 78,000 nurses over a period of
12 years?
Read more about it at:
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/030799.html Article on the 78,000 nurse study
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/092098.html CALCIUM AND BONE DISEASE
http://www.notmilk.com/badbones.html WHO GETS BONE DISEASE?
http://www.notmilk.com/bonehead.txt CRIPPLING BONEHEADS
http://www.notmilk.com/calcium/index.html Consolidated info
Cows milk has three times the calcium as does human breast milk. No
matter, neither are very usable because in order to be absorbed and used
their MUST be an equal quantity of MAGNESIUM (as exists in the greens
that cows eat to get all the calcium they need for their big bones).
Milk has only enough magnesium to absorb around 11% (33mg per cup) of
calcium.
Per the USDA 8 ounces (one cup) of cows milk contains:
Calcium, Ca mg 291.336
Magnesium, Mg mg 32.794
The USDA recommends 1200mg of calcium per day. The USDA recommended
three cups of milk a day only have 900mg of calcium. Some argue that
only 1/3 of the magnesium is necessary. Mother nature seems to suggest
it should be one to one. If the ratio for proper absorption were 1/3
magnesium to one calcium then no more than 300mg of that 900mg of
calcium is usable. If, in fact, it is a one to one ratio... only
98.38mg of calcium is usable.
It is not a matter of how much calcium one ingests... but how much
the do not lose.
**** Protein
Milk can be thought of as "liquid meat" because of its high protein
content which, in concert with other proteins, may actually LEACH
calcium from the body. Countries that consume high protein diets (meat,
milk and dairy) have the highest rates of osteoporosis.
**** The wholesome protein myth:
MILK: 87% of milk is water. That makes it VERY expensive water.
Broken down into its basic groups... WHOLE MILK is:
WATER FAT CASEIN OTHER OTHER
PROTEIN
87% 3.25% 4% 1% 4.75
(note: that is 3.25% "milkfat" which includes the 87% water.)
80% of the protein in milk is casein. Casein is a powerful binder... a
polymer used to make plastics... and a glue that is better used to make
sturdy furniture or hold beer bottle labels in place. It is in
thousands of processed foods as a binder... as "something" caseinate.
Casein is a powerful allergen... a histamine that creates lots of
mucus. The only medicine in Olympic athlete Flo-Jo's body was Benedryl,
a power antihistamine she took to combat her last meal... pizza. See
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/092198.html,
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/111598.html and
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/112398.html for the whole story.
**** Bacteria
Cow's milk is allowed to have feces in it. This is a major source for
bacteria. Milk is typically pasteurized more than once before it gets
to your table... each time for only 15 seconds at 162 degrees
Fahrenheit.
To sanitize water one is told to boil it (212 degrees F) for several
minutes. That is a tremendous disparity, isn't it!
Keep in mind that at room temperature the number of bacteria in milk
DOUBLE around every 20 minutes. No wonder milk turns rotten very
quickly.
**** PUS
ONE cubic centimeter (cc) of commercial cow's milk is allowed to have
up to 750,000 somatic cells (common name is "PUS") and 20,000 live
bacteria... before it is kept off the market.
That amounts to a whopping 20 million live squiggly bacteria and up to
750 MILLION pus cells per liter (bit more than a quart).
1 cup = 236.5882cc 177,441,150 pus cells ~ 4,731,600 bacteria
24 oz (3 glasses) 532,323,450 pus cells ~ 14,220,000 bacteria
(the "recommended" daily intake)
The EU and the Canadians allow for a less "tasty" 400,000,000 pus cells
per liter.
Typically these levels are lower... but they COULD reach these levels
and still get to YOUR table.
**** Cholesterol
The cholesterol content of those three glasses of milk is equal to
what one would get from 53 slices of bacon. Do you know of any doctor
who recommends that much bacon per day?
**** Kosher
Is cow's milk and dairy "Kosher"? Consider this:
"D-3 always is derived from an animal. The sunlight reaction that
converts 7-dehydrocholesterol to vitamin D-3 is a 'pure' chemical
reaction that occurs in your skin in certain cells."
"The provitamin known as 7-dehydrocholesterol is extracted and isolated
from the skins of mammals and purified." (Marian Herbert of the Vitamin
D Workshop U of C)
Vitamin D-3 can come from four different sources:
Pig skin, sheep skin, raw fish liver, and pig brains. Most of the time,
Vitamin D-3 is extracted from pig skin and sold to dairy processors.
Short answer to "is milk kosher" - probably not.
**** Other "stuff":
Fat and cholesterol. Lots of it. Per the dairy influenced USDA
"food pyramid" all milk, dairy and meats should represent no more than
8% of the diet. Statistically, by volume of sales in a nation of 281
million Americans, it works out to almost 40% of the diet for MILK AND
DAIRY.. without the meat.
The milk of each of the over 4,700 mammals on earth is formulated
specifically for that species. There are special lactoferrins and
immunoglobulins (cow specific immunizing stuff) that in humans serve as
allergens.
**** Leukemia
According to Hoards Dairyman (Volume 147, number 4)... 89% of
America's dairy herds have the leukemia virus.
(more at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/835)
**** Diabetes
The protein lactalbumin, has been identified as a key factor in
diabetes (and a major reason for NOT giving cows milk to infants).
**** Crohn's Disease
Mycobacterium paratuberculosis causes a bovine disease called
"Johne's."
Cows diagnosed with Johne's Disease have diarrhea, and heavy fecal
shedding of bacteria. This bacteria becomes cultured in milk, and is not
destroyed by pasteurization. Occasionally, the milk-borne bacteria will
begin to grow in the human host, and irritable bowel syndrome and
Crohn's results.
**** Mad Cow Disease
There may also be prions (pronounced PREons) in the milk and meat.
This is crystalline substance that acts like a virus... with an
"incubation" period of from 5 to 30 years. The end result is MAD COW
DISEASE!
**** Homogenization
Large fat molecules cannot get through the intestinal wall into the
bloodstream. The cream no longer rises... because homogenization breaks
up those large molecules into small ones that DO get into the
bloodstream! This becomes an expressway for any fat-borne toxins (lead,
dioxin's, etc.) into your (otherwise) most protected organs.
**** Cumulative effects:
How does this impact humans who consume cow's milk and dairy? Obesity
(over 50% of Americans and rising), heart disease, cancer, allergies,
digestive problems, diabetes, asthma, desensitization to antibiotics,
behavioral problems, and the constant ingestion of dioxin's, herbicides,
pesticides (and anything else the cow eats that is not good for any
critter), that winds up getting stored in HUMAN fat... is not healthy by
any measure.
Those who resist believing the truth should understand that MOST of
the world's population CANNOT tolerate the lactose in cow's milk. Up to
95% of the black population, around 53% of the Hispanics, etc.) So
much for cow's milk being "natures perfect food" for humans! Mother
nature knows better.
Common sense question: Where was this massive "milk is a must"
before refrigeration, pasteurization and mass transportation? Back when
cows gave only 1-4 pounds a day it was quickly made into BUTTER and
cheese! Now that those same cows have been tweaked and shot-up with
Posilac to produce up to 55 or more pounds of milk per day... almost all
year long... it is suddenly (after many thousands of years) a daily
"staple". NOT!
**** Pollution
There are around 9.2 million dairy cows in the United states. Each
dairy cow ingests around 330 pounds of feed (perhaps 50 pounds) and water
(around 280 pounds or 33 gallons) per day. Allowing for the best dairy
production of 55 pounds of milk per day (over ten times what mother nature
designed the cow to produce) that means that what remains becomes "slurry".
That means around 275 pound of urine and feces per day... per cow, for
a daily total of 2.53 BILLION pounds of pollution. Per year... that amounts
to around 923 billion pounds of UNTREATED pollution entering our streams,
rivers, lakes... and drinking water systems.
Cows are hot-blooded mammals. Like all other mammals they pass gas.
Somewhat like elephants their compartmented digestive system is rather
inefficient... which leads to the creation of MORE gas. During a
Discovery Channel documentary on elephants a parting quip was that the
average adult elephant passes enough methane gas per day to run a car
about 20 miles.
Cows are not much better. The English New Scientist (page 5 -31.8.96)
mentions that cattle produce around 48 kilograms (105 pounds) of methane
each per year and that more bubbles out of the animals' manure. Dairy
cows eat more because they produce milk. With 9.2 million dairy cows
times a minimum of 100 pounds of methane gas per year... that amounts
almost a billion pounds of methane gas released into the atmosphere each
year. With around 100 million beef cattle... pigs, sheep, and other
"factory farmed" animals it should not be difficult to fathom the extent
of this problem.
This means that "Beef is a greenhouse-intensive food" and a major
cause of global warming (with dairy a significant part of the problem).
Another major point is:
"Milk is a very strong pollutant: it is about 400 times more polluting
than untreated sewage. To put it another way, 1,000 gallons of milk has
the same polluting potential as the untreated sewage from a town of
7,000 people." Morlais Owen. Chief Scientist for Welsh Water. North
Wales Weekly News. 24.3.88.
**** SOME ANSWERED QUESTIONS:
Q: What is WHEY?
Whey results when the FAT and CASEIN are removed from milk.
In making cheese, the curds become the cheese.
Whey's main components are bovine serum albumin and lactalbumin.
There are other hormones contained in whey.
Q: What happens to the:
59 hormones
Scores of allergens
herbicides, pesticides, dioxin's
up to 52 antibiotics
when made into cheese?
A. Everything gets concentrated.
when made into butter?
A. The allergens get lost: but the dioxin's and
pesticides and antibiotics remain in the fat.
in the digestive system?
Steroid hormones survive, as do dioxin's and antibiotics.
In homogenized milk, protein hormones survive... depending upon the
gastric pH, some protein hormones in cheese survive, but not all...
eleven steroid hormones survive.
and... what happens next?
Eventually, everything is broken down, but not before the chemical
messengers (hormones) "deliver their message."
Each of those hormones and proteins acts differently and has different
rates of degradation. BOTTOM LINE... they all survive to a certain
degree... and the effects are cumulative.
Other health trashing substances in cow's milk:
whey: Blood proteins. Bovine serum lactalbumin has been identified as a
trigger for diabetes and other autoimmune diseases.
lactose: Two sugars. Glucose and galactose. Galactose has been
indentified as a trigger for glaucoma. There are several columns that
cover lactose (covering galactose and galactosemia):
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/090599.txt Dr. Gordon: Heart Disease
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/629 Lactose is dangerous
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/453 Ben's heart
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/396 Female Cancers
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/378 Lactose intolerance
colostrum (cow's first milk): Loaded with hormones, particularly IGF-I,
along with loads of immunizing agents for COW DISEASES.
Answers courtesy of the NOTMILKMAN. (notmilkman@notmilk.com)
MILK: What a surprise!
(read what a NOTMILK guest book respondent said:
http://www.notmilk.com/gbooktalk.txt)
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Read up on "mad cow disease"? Visit
http://www.milkgate.com for what may well be mankind's NEXT plague.
http://www.notmilk.com/milkinfo.txt my 2400 word overview (this file)
http://www.notmilk.com/wholemilk.txt USDA facts, and what they omitted
http://www.notmilk.com/52reasons.txt A reason for every week of the
year
Perhaps the BEST single reference:
http://www.notmilk.com/a-z.txt Extensive reasons by ailment/topic
Quote:
"It's not natural for humans to drink cow's milk. Humans milk is for
humans. Cow's milk is for calves. You have no more need of cow's milk
than you do rats milk, horses milk or elephant's milk. Cow's milk is a
high fat fluid exquisitely designed to turn a 65 lb baby calf into a 400
lb cow. That's what cow's milk is for!" Dr Michael Klaper MD
"I no longer recommend dairy products after the age of 2 years. Other
calcium sources offer many advantages that dairy products do not have."
........ Dr. Benjamin Spock
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**************** COW'S MILK AND DAIRY (approx 3000 words)
By Dave Rietz, WEBmaster www.notmilk.com
Yes... mother natures "perfect food" ... for a calf!
[Until it's weaned]
Everything you know about cow's milk and dairy is probably part of a
Dairy industry MYTH! Cow's milk is an unhealthy fluid from diseased
animals that has a wide range of dangerous and disease-causing
substances that have a cumulative negative effect on all who consume it.
Basic Contents:
*ALL* cow's milk has 59 active hormones, scores of allergens, fat and
cholesterol. Most cow's milk has measurable quantities of herbicides,
pesticides, dioxin's (up to 200 times the safe levels), up to 52
powerful antibiotics (perhaps 53 with LS-50), blood, pus, feces,
bacteria and viruses. (Cow's milk can have traces of anything the cow
ate... including such things as radioactive fallout from nuke testing
... (the 50's strontium-90 problem).
The leading causes of death are:
http://webapp.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/leadcaus.html (1998)
Rank Total Description
1 724,859 Heart Disease (think fats/cholesterol: meat,dairy)
2 541,532 Malignant Neoplasms (cancer: think toxins/milk/dairy)
2a 250,000 Medical system (drugs/etc. Think ignorance/incompetence)
3 158,448 Cerebro-vascular (think meat milk and dairy)
4 112,584 Bronchitis Emphysema Asthma (think toxins/milk/dairy)
5 97,835 Unintentional Inj & Adv. Effects
6 91,871 Pneumonia & Influenza (think weak immune systems and mucus)
7 64,751 Diabetes (think milk/dairy)
7a 40,000+ highway slaughter (men, women and children)
8 30,575 Suicide (think behavioral problems)
9 26,182 Nephritis (Bright's disease: inflammation of the kidneys)
10 25,192 Liver Disease (think alcohol and other toxins)
(2a and 7a were added for completeness)
(note: Number 13 on the CDC list is -18,272 Homicide & Legal
Intervention-. It is curious that the CDC would readily list law
enforcement and homicides... and not the 250,000 deaths caused by
the medical system!)
**** Cancer "Fuel Cell":
Of those 59 hormones one is a powerful GROWTH hormone called Insulin-
like Growth Factor ONE (IGF-1). By a freak of nature it is identical
between cows and humans. Consider this hormone to be a "fuel cell" for
any cancer... (the medical world says IGF-1 is a key factor in the rapid
growth and proliferation of breast, prostate and colon cancers, and we
suspect that most likely it will be found to promote ALL cancers).
IGF-1 is a normal part of ALL milk... the newborn is SUPPOSED to grow
quickly! What makes the 50% of obese American consumers think they
need MORE growth? Consumers don't think anything about it because they
do not have a clue to the problem... nor do most of our doctors.
(See http://www.notmilk.com/igf1time.txt for a time line)
**** Quantity
Each bite of hard cheese has TEN TIMES whatever was in that sip of
milk... because it takes ten pounds of milk to make one pound of cheese.
Each bite of ice cream has 12 times ... and every swipe of butter 21
times whatever is contained in the fat molecules in a sip of milk.
**** Monsanto and rbGH (Posilac)
Monsanto Chemical Co., maker of fine poisons such as DDT, agent
orange, Roundup and more... spent around half a billion dollars
inventing a shot to inject into cows... to force a cow to produce MORE
milk (for an already glutted taxpayer subsidized market).
Unfortunately, they created *FIVE* errors in their Frankenstein
Posilac (rbGH) shot that direly affected all test animals... but that
important report (Richard, Odaglia & Deslex, 1989) has been hidden from
everyone under Clinton's Trade Secrets act. The Canadians read enough
of this report (before it was stolen) to reject rbGH for their country.
Monsanto's Posilac creates additional IGF-1 in milk: up to 80% more.
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) insists that IGF-1 is destroyed
in the stomach. If that were true, the FDA has proven that
breast feeding cannot work. Common sense says their "finding" is
ridiculous because this growth factor DOES make the baby calf grow
(rapidly, as mother natured intended). Visit the Dairy Education Board
at http://www.notmilk.com/deb/100399.html to review a DAIRY study that
confirms what the FDA has lied about this for years.
**** IGF-1 increases
This study involved two groups. One group consuming 12 ounces of
milk a day and the other consuming the USDA recommended allowance of 24
ounces (three cups). This report notes that the participants consuming
12 ounces more milk per day... HAD A 10% RISE IN IGF-1 IN THEIR BLOOD
SERUM! Now, consider that PER DAY, from ALL sources, the typical
milk/dairy consumer ingests approximately 39% of daily diet from
dairy... and that 10% increase becomes the "tip of the iceberg". We
have NO idea of the non-dairy versus full-dairy difference but
considering cancer rates... it has to be significant.
**** Fat
Whole milk 49% of the calories are from fat.
"2%" milk 35% of the calories are from fat.
Cheddar cheese 74% of the calories are from fat.
Butter 100% of the calories are from fat.
Most folks suspect that butter is all fat. Most folks have no concept
of the just how much fat is in the rest of milk and dairy. Perhaps the
54% of Americans who are obese need to comprehend that milk, ice cream,
cheeses, yogurts, and all the OTHER products that use milk derivatives
(casein, whey, lactose, colostrum) are most likely a significant cause
for their weight and health problem.
**** Calcium
Calcium? Where do the COWS get calcium for their big bones? Yes...
from plants! The calcium they consume from plants has a large amount of
magnesium... necessary for the body to absorb and USE the calcium.
The calcium in cow's milk is basically useless because it has
insufficient magnesium content (those nations with the highest amount of
milk/dairy consumption also have the highest rates of osteoporosis.
Proof? How about a controlled study of 78,000 nurses over a period of
12 years?
Read more about it at:
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/030799.html Article on the 78,000 nurse study
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/092098.html CALCIUM AND BONE DISEASE
http://www.notmilk.com/badbones.html WHO GETS BONE DISEASE?
http://www.notmilk.com/bonehead.txt CRIPPLING BONEHEADS
http://www.notmilk.com/calcium/index.html Consolidated info
Cows milk has three times the calcium as does human breast milk. No
matter, neither are very usable because in order to be absorbed and used
their MUST be an equal quantity of MAGNESIUM (as exists in the greens
that cows eat to get all the calcium they need for their big bones).
Milk has only enough magnesium to absorb around 11% (33mg per cup) of
calcium.
Per the USDA 8 ounces (one cup) of cows milk contains:
Calcium, Ca mg 291.336
Magnesium, Mg mg 32.794
The USDA recommends 1200mg of calcium per day. The USDA recommended
three cups of milk a day only have 900mg of calcium. Some argue that
only 1/3 of the magnesium is necessary. Mother nature seems to suggest
it should be one to one. If the ratio for proper absorption were 1/3
magnesium to one calcium then no more than 300mg of that 900mg of
calcium is usable. If, in fact, it is a one to one ratio... only
98.38mg of calcium is usable.
It is not a matter of how much calcium one ingests... but how much
the do not lose.
**** Protein
Milk can be thought of as "liquid meat" because of its high protein
content which, in concert with other proteins, may actually LEACH
calcium from the body. Countries that consume high protein diets (meat,
milk and dairy) have the highest rates of osteoporosis.
**** The wholesome protein myth:
MILK: 87% of milk is water. That makes it VERY expensive water.
Broken down into its basic groups... WHOLE MILK is:
WATER FAT CASEIN OTHER OTHER
PROTEIN
87% 3.25% 4% 1% 4.75
(note: that is 3.25% "milkfat" which includes the 87% water.)
80% of the protein in milk is casein. Casein is a powerful binder... a
polymer used to make plastics... and a glue that is better used to make
sturdy furniture or hold beer bottle labels in place. It is in
thousands of processed foods as a binder... as "something" caseinate.
Casein is a powerful allergen... a histamine that creates lots of
mucus. The only medicine in Olympic athlete Flo-Jo's body was Benedryl,
a power antihistamine she took to combat her last meal... pizza. See
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/092198.html,
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/111598.html and
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/112398.html for the whole story.
**** Bacteria
Cow's milk is allowed to have feces in it. This is a major source for
bacteria. Milk is typically pasteurized more than once before it gets
to your table... each time for only 15 seconds at 162 degrees
Fahrenheit.
To sanitize water one is told to boil it (212 degrees F) for several
minutes. That is a tremendous disparity, isn't it!
Keep in mind that at room temperature the number of bacteria in milk
DOUBLE around every 20 minutes. No wonder milk turns rotten very
quickly.
**** PUS
ONE cubic centimeter (cc) of commercial cow's milk is allowed to have
up to 750,000 somatic cells (common name is "PUS") and 20,000 live
bacteria... before it is kept off the market.
That amounts to a whopping 20 million live squiggly bacteria and up to
750 MILLION pus cells per liter (bit more than a quart).
1 cup = 236.5882cc 177,441,150 pus cells ~ 4,731,600 bacteria
24 oz (3 glasses) 532,323,450 pus cells ~ 14,220,000 bacteria
(the "recommended" daily intake)
The EU and the Canadians allow for a less "tasty" 400,000,000 pus cells
per liter.
Typically these levels are lower... but they COULD reach these levels
and still get to YOUR table.
**** Cholesterol
The cholesterol content of those three glasses of milk is equal to
what one would get from 53 slices of bacon. Do you know of any doctor
who recommends that much bacon per day?
**** Kosher
Is cow's milk and dairy "Kosher"? Consider this:
"D-3 always is derived from an animal. The sunlight reaction that
converts 7-dehydrocholesterol to vitamin D-3 is a 'pure' chemical
reaction that occurs in your skin in certain cells."
"The provitamin known as 7-dehydrocholesterol is extracted and isolated
from the skins of mammals and purified." (Marian Herbert of the Vitamin
D Workshop U of C)
Vitamin D-3 can come from four different sources:
Pig skin, sheep skin, raw fish liver, and pig brains. Most of the time,
Vitamin D-3 is extracted from pig skin and sold to dairy processors.
Short answer to "is milk kosher" - probably not.
**** Other "stuff":
Fat and cholesterol. Lots of it. Per the dairy influenced USDA
"food pyramid" all milk, dairy and meats should represent no more than
8% of the diet. Statistically, by volume of sales in a nation of 281
million Americans, it works out to almost 40% of the diet for MILK AND
DAIRY.. without the meat.
The milk of each of the over 4,700 mammals on earth is formulated
specifically for that species. There are special lactoferrins and
immunoglobulins (cow specific immunizing stuff) that in humans serve as
allergens.
**** Leukemia
According to Hoards Dairyman (Volume 147, number 4)... 89% of
America's dairy herds have the leukemia virus.
(more at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/835)
**** Diabetes
The protein lactalbumin, has been identified as a key factor in
diabetes (and a major reason for NOT giving cows milk to infants).
**** Crohn's Disease
Mycobacterium paratuberculosis causes a bovine disease called
"Johne's."
Cows diagnosed with Johne's Disease have diarrhea, and heavy fecal
shedding of bacteria. This bacteria becomes cultured in milk, and is not
destroyed by pasteurization. Occasionally, the milk-borne bacteria will
begin to grow in the human host, and irritable bowel syndrome and
Crohn's results.
**** Mad Cow Disease
There may also be prions (pronounced PREons) in the milk and meat.
This is crystalline substance that acts like a virus... with an
"incubation" period of from 5 to 30 years. The end result is MAD COW
DISEASE!
**** Homogenization
Large fat molecules cannot get through the intestinal wall into the
bloodstream. The cream no longer rises... because homogenization breaks
up those large molecules into small ones that DO get into the
bloodstream! This becomes an expressway for any fat-borne toxins (lead,
dioxin's, etc.) into your (otherwise) most protected organs.
**** Cumulative effects:
How does this impact humans who consume cow's milk and dairy? Obesity
(over 50% of Americans and rising), heart disease, cancer, allergies,
digestive problems, diabetes, asthma, desensitization to antibiotics,
behavioral problems, and the constant ingestion of dioxin's, herbicides,
pesticides (and anything else the cow eats that is not good for any
critter), that winds up getting stored in HUMAN fat... is not healthy by
any measure.
Those who resist believing the truth should understand that MOST of
the world's population CANNOT tolerate the lactose in cow's milk. Up to
95% of the black population, around 53% of the Hispanics, etc.) So
much for cow's milk being "natures perfect food" for humans! Mother
nature knows better.
Common sense question: Where was this massive "milk is a must"
before refrigeration, pasteurization and mass transportation? Back when
cows gave only 1-4 pounds a day it was quickly made into BUTTER and
cheese! Now that those same cows have been tweaked and shot-up with
Posilac to produce up to 55 or more pounds of milk per day... almost all
year long... it is suddenly (after many thousands of years) a daily
"staple". NOT!
**** Pollution
There are around 9.2 million dairy cows in the United states. Each
dairy cow ingests around 330 pounds of feed (perhaps 50 pounds) and water
(around 280 pounds or 33 gallons) per day. Allowing for the best dairy
production of 55 pounds of milk per day (over ten times what mother nature
designed the cow to produce) that means that what remains becomes "slurry".
That means around 275 pound of urine and feces per day... per cow, for
a daily total of 2.53 BILLION pounds of pollution. Per year... that amounts
to around 923 billion pounds of UNTREATED pollution entering our streams,
rivers, lakes... and drinking water systems.
Cows are hot-blooded mammals. Like all other mammals they pass gas.
Somewhat like elephants their compartmented digestive system is rather
inefficient... which leads to the creation of MORE gas. During a
Discovery Channel documentary on elephants a parting quip was that the
average adult elephant passes enough methane gas per day to run a car
about 20 miles.
Cows are not much better. The English New Scientist (page 5 -31.8.96)
mentions that cattle produce around 48 kilograms (105 pounds) of methane
each per year and that more bubbles out of the animals' manure. Dairy
cows eat more because they produce milk. With 9.2 million dairy cows
times a minimum of 100 pounds of methane gas per year... that amounts
almost a billion pounds of methane gas released into the atmosphere each
year. With around 100 million beef cattle... pigs, sheep, and other
"factory farmed" animals it should not be difficult to fathom the extent
of this problem.
This means that "Beef is a greenhouse-intensive food" and a major
cause of global warming (with dairy a significant part of the problem).
Another major point is:
"Milk is a very strong pollutant: it is about 400 times more polluting
than untreated sewage. To put it another way, 1,000 gallons of milk has
the same polluting potential as the untreated sewage from a town of
7,000 people." Morlais Owen. Chief Scientist for Welsh Water. North
Wales Weekly News. 24.3.88.
**** SOME ANSWERED QUESTIONS:
Q: What is WHEY?
Whey results when the FAT and CASEIN are removed from milk.
In making cheese, the curds become the cheese.
Whey's main components are bovine serum albumin and lactalbumin.
There are other hormones contained in whey.
Q: What happens to the:
59 hormones
Scores of allergens
herbicides, pesticides, dioxin's
up to 52 antibiotics
when made into cheese?
A. Everything gets concentrated.
when made into butter?
A. The allergens get lost: but the dioxin's and
pesticides and antibiotics remain in the fat.
in the digestive system?
Steroid hormones survive, as do dioxin's and antibiotics.
In homogenized milk, protein hormones survive... depending upon the
gastric pH, some protein hormones in cheese survive, but not all...
eleven steroid hormones survive.
and... what happens next?
Eventually, everything is broken down, but not before the chemical
messengers (hormones) "deliver their message."
Each of those hormones and proteins acts differently and has different
rates of degradation. BOTTOM LINE... they all survive to a certain
degree... and the effects are cumulative.
Other health trashing substances in cow's milk:
whey: Blood proteins. Bovine serum lactalbumin has been identified as a
trigger for diabetes and other autoimmune diseases.
lactose: Two sugars. Glucose and galactose. Galactose has been
indentified as a trigger for glaucoma. There are several columns that
cover lactose (covering galactose and galactosemia):
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/090599.txt Dr. Gordon: Heart Disease
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/629 Lactose is dangerous
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/453 Ben's heart
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/396 Female Cancers
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/notmilk/message/378 Lactose intolerance
colostrum (cow's first milk): Loaded with hormones, particularly IGF-I,
along with loads of immunizing agents for COW DISEASES.
Answers courtesy of the NOTMILKMAN. (notmilkman@notmilk.com)
MILK: What a surprise!
(read what a NOTMILK guest book respondent said:
http://www.notmilk.com/gbooktalk.txt)
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For more of the WHOLE truth... visit:
For all past newsletters visit with a wealth of information:
http://www.notmilk.com/deb/column.html
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http://www.notmilk.com/deb/squirts.html
Diabetics please read http://www.notmilk.com/deb/011099.html
Read up on "mad cow disease"? Visit
http://www.milkgate.com for what may well be mankind's NEXT plague.
http://www.notmilk.com/milkinfo.txt my 2400 word overview (this file)
http://www.notmilk.com/wholemilk.txt USDA facts, and what they omitted
http://www.notmilk.com/52reasons.txt A reason for every week of the
year
Perhaps the BEST single reference:
http://www.notmilk.com/a-z.txt Extensive reasons by ailment/topic
Quote:
"It's not natural for humans to drink cow's milk. Humans milk is for
humans. Cow's milk is for calves. You have no more need of cow's milk
than you do rats milk, horses milk or elephant's milk. Cow's milk is a
high fat fluid exquisitely designed to turn a 65 lb baby calf into a 400
lb cow. That's what cow's milk is for!" Dr Michael Klaper MD
"I no longer recommend dairy products after the age of 2 years. Other
calcium sources offer many advantages that dairy products do not have."
........ Dr. Benjamin Spock
***** PLEASE... PASS THIS INFO AROUND TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW! *****
Totally agree with this wall of text from a completely non biased source, milk is for baby mammals only0 -
If you only drink milk from a saucer, it can help with the taste of tuna.0
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Pass the cheese! I'll take the OPs helping too please. Load me up!0
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Do you even controlled study?
The only reason milk is "linked" to all those things is because the public, in general, drinks milk, AND suffers from those conditions. Of course, it doesn't rule out that anything else that they consumed caused these problems either... so....
I am really beginning to feel like high schools should be offering kids classes on research just so we can decrease the number of stupid people in this world!0 -
Gosh. How did I live to be 62 with no health problems (touch wood). I love dairy and have eaten it all my life.
The dairy industry has changed A LOT. Today, the dairy is loaded with growth hormones to produce more milk, antibiotics because cows are over milked and get udder infections, and even given steroids.
Don't take my word for it- search for the truth.
Milk- Got pus?
^this.
When my kids were younger and coming up in hockey, I worried that they might be a little small. Since no doctor would give us HGH (they were in *normal* ranges (normal for what? quack. they needed to be 6'2" minimum, this is not debatable)), we did our research and only allowed milk with rBGH in our house. To my delight it has so far produced a 17 year old that's 4" taller than me, and a 14 year old that's my height.
Don't EVER call growth hormones in milk a bad thing.0 -
**************** COW'S MILK AND DAIRY (approx 3000 words)
By Dave Rietz, WEBmaster www.notmilk.com
NOT a peer-reviewed medical journal. Try again please.....meanwhile, I will continue to drink my three glasses a day.0 -
Also eating foods other than dairy is linked to:
Acne
Arthritis
Asthma
Autism
Breast Cancer
Colon Cancer
Constipation
Cramps
Depression
Diabetes
Diarrhea
Ear Infections
Eczema
Emphysema
Headaches
High Cholesterol
Hyperactivity
Increased mucus
AND YES OSTEOPOROSIS
It's all the dihydrogen monoxide in milk .. that stuff's found in all cancer tumors, industrial waste, you name it. 0 -
it's also linked to cheese, the most delicious and beautiful thing on the planet!
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So many heads stuck in the sand. Sad
Hello people. The food industry produces its own "science" to "debunk" proven links between their products and diseases.
Go on thinking dairy, red meat and processed crap are perfectly good for human consumption if it makes you happy.
Ignorance is bliss0 -
So many heads stuck in the sand. Sad
Hello people. The food industry produces its own "science" to "debunk" proven links between their products and diseases.
Go on thinking dairy, red meat and processed crap are perfectly good for human consumption if it makes you happy.
Ignorance is bliss
ANYTHING can be bad for you if you over-consume it.0 -
Yea; on t2kburl that's something that the food industry's "science" doesn't tell us.It's all the dihydrogen monoxide in milk .. that stuff's found in all cancer tumors, industrial waste, you name it.
It's been proven that a very high percentage of people that have cancer or canerous cells have ingested DHMO at some point.
DHMO is found in red meat, dairy AND most processed foods!!
But, yea; ignorance is bliss, so most people just ignore that and keep eating their DHMO-laced foods!
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They look like some of my coworkers...
Boy ain't that the truth?!?!?!?!?!0 -
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Breast milk,
I am telling you, that is where the quality is at.0 -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-12569011Breast milk,
I am telling you, that is where the quality is at.
Eat up!0 -
Breast milk,
I am telling you, that is where the quality is at.
I heard some ice cream shop made ice cream out of human milk. I'm curious as to how it tasted....0 -
The chemicals in today's food is highly addictive! People do not over eat because they are hungry.
People are over fed and under nourished. We can agree to disagree, but I am merely stating the scientific evidence.
What you're telling me then is that every other time in history people exercised, except for now right- wrong!
The difference between now and 50 years ago is the FOOD! Yes people over eat, but the food that people are eating is tricking their bodies into thinking they need more food. People are becoming over fed and under nourished.
Choose to do as you want, but I choose to spread the truth- read the abstract for the scientific paper I posted, watch "forks over knives" or read "the china study" and get back to me. Would love to further discuss. I appreciate the dialogue.
Maybe food is partially to blame, but I think the bigger problem is that everything is easy now. 50 years ago, people had to actually work to survive. They couldn't plop down in front of a computer or television for hours at a time (or they chose not to). The difference is, in today's society computer and television are a way of life, and you don't get any exercise doing that.
Don't give people a scape-goat by saying it's an ingredient in the food that did it. People need to own up to what they have allowed themselves to become if they are overweight. They need to own up to what they have done wrong.
For example, I'm overweight... I'm 182 pounds and not happy with my body...but it was ME and ME ALONE who caused me to get to where I am now. I ate portions that were too large, I didn't get off my *kitten* to exercise. My weight gain wasn't due to some cancer causing ingredient in milk or any other food.0 -
The food industry produces its own "science" to "debunk" proven links between their products and diseases.
This statement is so laughable that it's not even funny.
So... rather than using experimentation where potential variable and biases are removed, you would rather rely on observational data where a collection of people said "yeah... I feel sick a lot... and yeah... I drink milk everyday" but don't bother to ask them if they drink alcohol, smoke ciggarettes, eat read meat, consume trans fats, or fail to exercise. Because they feel sick a lot AND drink milk, then it must be the milk, right? No other contributing factor is possible?
The studies that everyone wants to climb up on their soap box about are meant to establish a need for experimentation. Experimentation proves the observational findings, but even then the possibility of milk causing those conditions still can't be accepted as fact unless other people, not associated with the food industry, comes along and says they did the exact same experiments and got the exact same results.
You talk about ignorance being bliss, but you are quite literally clueless about how science works. Ignorance must be bliss. Keep believing that avoiding milk is going to save you from cancer!0 -
Wow, you guys are brutal. She did some research and wanted to share what she learned. The facts are out there, but you have to find the research not paid for by the dairy industry. BTW, your hormones are directly linked to what you eat. To claim that something is completely hormone driven & has no correlation to what you eat is ignorance at best. Every part of your health is linked to what you eat.
Thank you. I don't know why people get so aggressive. I am not trying to convert people, I just have come to know a lot of people, though meeting lots of raw foodists and vegans who have had so many health benefits- myself included- and I want to encourage others to research the same way I did. I used to be the same way, so I don't get mad when people are aggressive like this. My favorite food on the planet was cheese, and I used to eat a high protein (meat) diet.
I have personally had so many benefits- weight loss, sleeping better, acid reflux, clearer skin thicker hair and nails, MORE energy, and over all I am so happy. Why wouldn't I want to share this with others? If they don't want to listen, I understand.
Acid reflux is a benefit?
Well that is news to me.
Also, I've experienced all the same.. while not cutting out a damn thing. So it really depends on the person.
Preaching without providing real sources, is going to get you no where.. fast.
Agreed0 -
So many heads stuck in the sand. Sad
Hello people. The food industry produces its own "science" to "debunk" proven links between their products and diseases.
Go on thinking dairy, red meat and processed crap are perfectly good for human consumption if it makes you happy.
Ignorance is bliss
It really so sad how the industry has so engrained things into people's brains, that the people who are affected are the ones that defend it.0
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