Skinny gossip
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I just had a brief read through this site and was shocked to see that they don't classify Mischa Barton or Avril Lavine as 'slim', and stated that Nicole Ritchie 'gained too much' in this picture:
Looks very much like a pro-ana website to me and I would avoid at all costs.0 -
Live and let live.
Differences of opinions are part of life, some people are more judgemental that others and some people still have a lot of growing to do before they become wise to the ways of the world.
I can't see the site (link gone perhaps) but know that if these people do have Eating Disorders, then they are probably feeling very trapped and are not rationally thinking the way other people would. Eating disorders wreck lives and families, they are self obsessed and selfish...but this isn't who they are deep down, this is the eating disorder, and YES, it is a mental illness.
If the site is just a forum for helpful advice, then I refer back to my first point, people will be people, we're not all the same and we all judge people and goals differently. I think that person on the site making ridiculous comments to judge a 'group' of people that use a website just shows a lack of knowledge and understanding and vice versa
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If you want to avoid the meal all together:
Pretend you are sick (food poisoning, stomach flu, etc.) – this is a great excuse to avoid eating at all, or to stick to very low calorie foods such as chicken broth. It also gives you a great excuse to completely avoid annoying family members and just stay in bed all day.
If you have to drive somewhere for it, say you had car troubles (a flat, dead battery, engine problems) – then you can skip it entirely (if that’s even an option) or show up two hours later after everyone has finished. Of course, they’ll probably want to feed you leftovers when you finally do arrive –>; see next excuse
this just made me shake my head while reading it on there page excuses to not eat thankgiving dinner so its better to stay alone and starve then spend time with the family then i rather stay the way i am. My whole family knows i am having a lifestyle change and have to watch my calorie intake so i can still eat with them but they dont pester me to eat food that i dont feel like i should of that would put me over my calorie goal0 -
I've been having a good read over the posts and the thing that jumps out at me the most is that the girls seem to have even lower self-esteem and negative body image than anyone on this site! I think that proves once and for all self-confidence is in the mind, not the mirror, as these girls are really hating on themselves even though they are all well below what I'd consider my goal weight - it's actually really sad. However, I do admire their steely determination, I would like to have a smidgen of their will power though would like to think if I do ever get skinny that I won't recoil in disgust at those over a UK size 8 lol!0
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Live and let live.
Differences of opinions are part of life, some people are more judgemental that others and some people still have a lot of growing to do before they become wise to the ways of the world.
I can't see the site (link gone perhaps) but know that if these people do have Eating Disorders, then they are probably feeling very trapped and are not rationally thinking the way other people would. Eating disorders wreck lives and families, they are self obsessed and selfish...but this isn't who they are deep down, this is the eating disorder, and YES, it is a mental illness.
If the site is just a forum for helpful advice, then I refer back to my first point, people will be people, we're not all the same and we all judge people and goals differently. I think that person on the site making ridiculous comments to judge a 'group' of people that use a website just shows a lack of knowledge and understanding and vice versa
Sounds good in theory. I see from your profile pic you appear to be very slender and have a baby. Sadly, on that site, it appears that anyone pregnant would have been derided as having disgusting, floppy milk filled breasts and they would 'rather barf' than ever get pregnant. That level of disgust for the fundamental biological functions of the female body is scary. It's good to say 'it isn't them, it's the disorder' but it doesn't take away the damage expressing and being applauded for such opinions can cause others, including women who have lost babies as a result of being unable to sustain a pregnancy past 20 weeks and younger ones who are just trying to sort out how they feel about femininity. I think you look beautiful, by the way, as would anybody with a grasp on reality.
The level of spite on the pages is scary, as it's not just directed at themselves, it's directed at everyone else. Being outright mean to others just isn't right.0 -
For those of you saying being fat is a lifestyle choice...is being grossly underweight and unable to gain a pound also a lifestyle choice? How about the 8 year olds that are 200 pounds? Did they choose that lifestyle? Perhaps one should think before typing
That!! Never judge unless you have walked in a persons shoes. The US is a large diverse country. No one can or should paint the residents of it with one large brush. There are many reasons people are over weight including extreme poverty and there are many reasons that people have eating disorders. Just don't judge!
Well, on a site that supposedly is dedicated to health and fitness some judgments are inevitable, and presumably here we are judging only people who have a degree of control over their condition, and I don't mean genes -- you have to deal with the genes you were given.
If you are an adult on this site who purportedly wants to lose weight and you repeatedly ask questions that show you haven't done even the most basic nutritional and exercise homework and you don't keep of track of your food intake and weight and body fat and other relevant measures and exaggerate the exercise you perform than my judgment is that you are not committed.0 -
For the record, reading over this site makes me sick to my stomach. It is very much a pro ana site even though it claims to not be and most of the stuff I was reading on there was appalling. The site should be shut down for exploting those with eating disorders.0
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Oh dear, I haven't been on the page, so really can't comment on what they are saying - I think when you are in a place of deep physical and emotional starvation your world and the world around you is much darker. Don't get me wrong, I do not defend nor applaud such derogative behaviour, I guess I can just see it from their pov (mainly because I worked on an Eating Disorders ward and got an insight into this) but it doesn't mean I understand it completely. Had to lol at what they think about been pregnant, my boobs are a floppy mess, haha, but I wouldn't change them or my son for the world. I just hope these people get a reality check before they lose more than their personalities to their disordered eating if this is the problem.
PS thanks for the lovely comment, my boy is my world! x0 -
So trolling has been outsourced now?0
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Never heard of it and don't much care.
“The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.” ~ Oscar Wilde0 -
What's wrong is pretending like the only options in life are being fat or way underweight. Why do people have such a hard time grasping the concept of moderation?What is on that blog (differentiating between the blog and the forums, which I did not read) is hate, pure and simple. If the subject was not being fat, but being black or being gay, you'd pick that up pretty quick. It is NOT okay.
No. Being fat is a lifestyle choice. Being black and being gay aren't. That's why we're here. That's why this site exists.Praising Vlada's thigh gap as a goal to be aspired to is WAY more harmful than loving oneself (including one's fat) ever could be!!
74% of Americans are overweight. If everyone "loved themselves, including their fat", 74% of Americans would stay overweight and risk dying young. Hundreds of people die young from obesity for every one that does from anorexia. From a pure utilitarian point of view, if there's a button that made everyone in the USA 10% more critical of their appearance, I would press it, because it would result in fewer people dying young.
I appreciate that it was just a figure of speech, but I just want to point out how wrong that statement is.0 -
What's wrong is pretending like the only options in life are being fat or way underweight. Why do people have such a hard time grasping the concept of moderation?What is on that blog (differentiating between the blog and the forums, which I did not read) is hate, pure and simple. If the subject was not being fat, but being black or being gay, you'd pick that up pretty quick. It is NOT okay.
No. Being fat is a lifestyle choice. Being black and being gay aren't. That's why we're here. That's why this site exists.Praising Vlada's thigh gap as a goal to be aspired to is WAY more harmful than loving oneself (including one's fat) ever could be!!
74% of Americans are overweight. If everyone "loved themselves, including their fat", 74% of Americans would stay overweight and risk dying young. Hundreds of people die young from obesity for every one that does from anorexia. From a pure utilitarian point of view, if there's a button that made everyone in the USA 10% more critical of their appearance, I would press it, because it would result in fewer people dying young.
I appreciate that it was just a figure of speech, but I just want to point out how wrong that statement is.
Because our society is either obsessed with eating or denying themselves food. Unless you've never had a food/weight issue, moderation is something that takes a lot of re-programming, practice, and patience. Obviously I agree that that's what we should all be working towards... I think that people are arguing due to the comments of one extreme being better than the other.0 -
Live and let live.
Differences of opinions are part of life, some people are more judgemental that others and some people still have a lot of growing to do before they become wise to the ways of the world.
I can't see the site (link gone perhaps) but know that if these people do have Eating Disorders, then they are probably feeling very trapped and are not rationally thinking the way other people would. Eating disorders wreck lives and families, they are self obsessed and selfish...but this isn't who they are deep down, this is the eating disorder, and YES, it is a mental illness.
If the site is just a forum for helpful advice, then I refer back to my first point, people will be people, we're not all the same and we all judge people and goals differently. I think that person on the site making ridiculous comments to judge a 'group' of people that use a website just shows a lack of knowledge and understanding and vice versa
Sounds good in theory. I see from your profile pic you appear to be very slender and have a baby. Sadly, on that site, it appears that anyone pregnant would have been derided as having disgusting, floppy milk filled breasts and they would 'rather barf' than ever get pregnant. That level of disgust for the fundamental biological functions of the female body is scary. It's good to say 'it isn't them, it's the disorder' but it doesn't take away the damage expressing and being applauded for such opinions can cause others, including women who have lost babies as a result of being unable to sustain a pregnancy past 20 weeks and younger ones who are just trying to sort out how they feel about femininity. I think you look beautiful, by the way, as would anybody with a grasp on reality.
The level of spite on the pages is scary, as it's not just directed at themselves, it's directed at everyone else. Being outright mean to others just isn't right.
I found that really disturbing and extremely difficult to understand that mindset also. Just leaves me speechless.0 -
Sorry if someone's brought it up already, but the Kate upton article enrages me. This woman is hardly a "cow" and anyone in their right mind would love to have her body (or for those into ladies, sleep with her body!) http://www.skinnygossip.com/kate-upton-is-well-marbled/0
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Sorry if someone's brought it up already, but the Kate upton article enrages me. This woman is hardly a "cow" and anyone in their right mind would love to have her body (or for those into ladies, sleep with her body!) http://www.skinnygossip.com/kate-upton-is-well-marbled/
Kate Upton is much too big to be a fashion model, since designers make samples in size 0, and that's usually the aesthetic people on that site are using. (In particular, if lots of people want to sleep with you, your look is probably too "mass market" for fashion.) I'm a bit dubious about her as a swimsuit model as well, since they're supposed to be muscular and toned. She is a supremely attractive example of a "curvy" woman on the upper side of healthy BMI (she looks like might be pushing overweight in those pictures, but they are quite unflattering). But different people have different aesthetic ideals, and not everyone wants to look like that just like not everyone wants to look like a model/bodybuilder.
(Also, when I read that article, I was totally shocked that she was the same age as me 0_0. I would trade my body for literally anyone's to be that successful...)0 -
Look, if you want to spend your time criticizing other women's bodies why don't you join up at SG?
This is really not the place for it.0 -
here just to say i'd tap kate upton.0
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Look, if you want to spend your time criticizing other women's bodies why don't you join up at SG?
This is really not the place for it.
It is not a criticism that I would have to gain 3 inches in my waist to have the same measurement as Kate Upton. Like I said, her body is great inspiration for people with her shape who still have a lot to lose. That is not me, so I don't need anyone telling me that I am not in my right mind for not wanting to look like her. I also don't want Vlada's thighs.
As for SG? They do not fit my personal weight loss needs, particularly as a person who struggles daily with severe health problems as a result of being born with a genetic mutation. Just because I defend the skinny people doesn't mean I am disgusted by the fat people. I think every eating disorder deserves equal treatment!0 -
Look, if you want to spend your time criticizing other women's bodies why don't you join up at SG?
This is really not the place for it.
I think we were mostly objecting to the claim "anyone in their right mind would love to have her body". People don't have to be out of their minds to not want to look a particular way.0 -
Look, if you want to spend your time criticizing other women's bodies why don't you join up at SG?
This is really not the place for it.
It is not a criticism that I would have to gain 3 inches in my waist to have the same measurement as Kate Upton. Like I said, her body is great inspiration for people with her shape who still have a lot to lose. That is not me, so I don't need anyone telling me that I am not in my right mind for not wanting to look like her. I also don't want Vlada's thighs.
As for SG? They do not fit my personal weight loss needs, particularly as a person who struggles daily with severe health problems as a result of being born with a genetic mutation. Just because I defend the skinny people doesn't mean I am disgusted by the fat people. I think every eating disorder deserves equal treatment!
You are defending the author of SG for calling her a cow, by providing your own reasoning as to why she should be compared to a cow.
You are putting up a picture of a woman and making comments about her appearance that only relate to her being a standard for other women. She's not a ruler to measure other women by, she's a human being. She doesn't exist to please you or anyone else, and it DOES NOT MATTER what the hell you think of her waistline, or how it compares to yours.
How is posting a picture of a woman and saying she has tits like a cow defending skinny people?
The only thing you are defending is people's ability to make hurtful criticisms about other women's bodies for no apparent reason.0 -
Look, if you want to spend your time criticizing other women's bodies why don't you join up at SG?
This is really not the place for it.
I think we were mostly objecting to the claim "anyone in their right mind would love to have her body". People don't have to be out of their minds to not want to look a particular way.
Would you like for me to list all of the reasons I would not want to have your body? What if I included references to farm animals?
I don't care what prompted it, it's still completely inappropriate.0 -
I also would never have a body like Kate Upton and would not try to strive for that either, My waist is 23 inches and my booty is 34 inches, so I have a very small waist and a curvy body shape. Kate Upton has a straight body type, without waist definition and without a booty, but she has large and pretty breasts (she also has a very pretty face). I wouldn't want to trade my body for hers. I like my body, and I am a dancer. But, I still think Kate Upton is incredibly beautiful and attractive (and I enjoy looking at her), I think women are beautiful and I like the variety in how they look. I agree that I don't like when people put down slender people (like I said I weigh 100 pounds and my BMI is below 18.5). But, I also feel absolutely no need or desire to put down anyone's body. Most of the aspects of our body shape are genetic. Fitness is something we can work on and improve the look of our body and have our best body, but the basic shape of our bone structure, distribution of where we carry our healthy fat, and even how our muscles develop is all an aspect of genetics. And as we get older and have babies that is (in my opinion) not something to be insulted. You are only young for a very short time. And as you grow older you don't only see changes in your body, you also experience further growth in the development of the judgement centers in your brain which is a very good thing (unless you are doing something to short circuit that process).0
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I'm sorry I offended women everywhere. I am not sorry for finding her body unattractive and saying it out loud and going against popular opinion.
I still think binge eating disorders and compulsive overeating should be treated more like the eating disorders that have the symptom of severe weight loss. Much more important than being butthurt about my feelings about someone's body.0 -
Damn right I'm butthurt, and I'm not sorry about it either.
You go ahead and feel like a rebel and "go against popular opinion" and call large breasted women cows, but I'm not comfortable with it and I'm going to say something against it. If you're going to go around insulting people, you have to expect to come across a few of us who aren't afraid stand up and call you out when our feelings are hurt.
And if you feel so strongly about the ED thing, then why are you posting pictures of healthy women and criticizing their shape and waistline? Where is the logic there? You keep posting these inflammatory comments and then interject your feelings about CO needing the same treatment as anorexia. Maybe if I didn't have to read a bunch of infuriating BS before I got to those comments I might give a ****.0 -
I'm sorry I offended women everywhere. I am not sorry for finding her body unattractive and saying it out loud and going against popular opinion.
I still think binge eating disorders and compulsive overeating should be treated more like the eating disorders that have the symptom of severe weight loss. Much more important than being butthurt about my feelings about someone's body.
It's like you are in a completely different conversation. Yes, binge eating disorder is an eating disorder. I agree with that. I'm not sure what that has to do with anyone here, though. Just because we are on a fitness site does not even mean we have binge eating disorder. I'm not even here to lose weight.
Also, no one is butthurt. Get over yourself.
To everyone else, I would personally not stoop to the level of the ladies over at SG. Just because they are sad people that sit around insulting models while they do nothing with their own lives, does not mean any of us need to resort to putting down anyone's body. That would be doing what they want. They want people to stoke the fires of their boring dramas in a meaningless life.
I have compassion and hope for healing for anyone that has any kind of eating disorder. But being an awful person is a separate issue, and having an eating disorder does not excuse that behavior.0 -
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Oh good grief...apparently somebody got their panties in a wad because someone celebrating being "overweight" instead of "morbidly obese." I mean seriously, when someone hits that goal marker, why not celebrate with them instead of being a jerk about it.
My opinion: There are people from all spectrums of life here. The point of these forums is to get support in your journey to fitness. Some people's journey takes longer than others. And some people are judgey and jerky, but at the end of the day, it's the internet... take what helps you and let the rest roll.
I will say that I hope that no one ever finds me to be rude or judgmental because that is not my intention at all. I hope that I can help others along the way, and that I can take the information found here and use it to help me.0 -
I've never heard of the site, but I can certainly understand the attitude. I often wish there were a forum for people like me, people who've never been overweight, but because of injury and or getting older need to work now to maintain their weight. I'm tired of being accused of being ancient, decrepit or having an ED because I weigh in the low 100s, or today, 99, and used to weigh in the low 90s.
And yes, at times I'm surprised by the weights people give as their goal weights -- they look quite high -- but its their health not mine.
Finally, some of the advice I see regularly posted would result in people staying overweight.
Even though their goal weight may look high to you, it may just be a starting goal. For example, when I weigh in at 190, my "goal" was 160. Then when I got there, my "goal" was 140. Now that I am almost to that mark, it may or may not go lower, depending on my fitness level when I get there.
And some of the advice can be "if-fy" as to if it is good advice or not. I try to look at people's history on the site, and whether they have reached their goals and maintained them before accepting what they say as truth.
I hope that you are able to use the information and advice here to meet your goals also.0 -
Also, no one is butthurt.
I totally am. At least I think so. That's what the bullies call people when they've hurt someone's feelings on the internet, right?0 -
Also, no one is butthurt.
I totally am. At least I think so. That's what the bullies call people when they've hurt someone's feelings on the internet, right?
Don't let her get you down!
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