PSA: Any diet that prohibits certain foods is a bad diet.
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except for green coffee extract, raspberry ketones, acai ,noni juice,hcg...Codicil the first: Any diet that identifies a miracle food is a bad diet.
those are ALL just fine <insert sarcastic tone here>0 -
who are you to say what is and isn't a bad diet?
A person of reasonable intelligence.
ah.
you eat mcdonalds and other fast food every single day, you've been trying to lose 20 pounds for over 2 years, and you seem to believe you somehow have the authority to determine what is and isn't healthy for everyone on MFP?
I'd also like to point out that the majority of folks who are jumping in to agree with you are significantly far from reaching their goals.
just. saying.
I have reached my goals and I wholeheartly agree that cutting out certian foods to lose weight is a bad idea - UNLESS you feel that you can cut that food out for the rest of your life. Diets are typically short term solutions to a long term problem. If I told myself that I couldn't eat ice cream or pasta or pizza EVER again, I'd probably be 40 pounds heavier than what I started out at.
i agree with all of that. I don't suggest cutting things out in order to lose weight, I suggest cutting things out when you actually become healthier for having done it - that varies from person to person. the only thing that i recommend reducing (note: reducing, not eliminating completely) is processed crap. for that debate, however, we've got another thread.
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PSA: common sense isn't very common.
OP did you say that if you are allergic to foods or if foods make you sick then you should still eat them? I don't remember reading that part. I've always done well with reading comprehension too, what a shame.
I don't know why so many people want to "restrict" everything?! I haven't restricted anything from my diet and I'm getting along fine. I've only lost 110 pounds though, so not much progress to judge whether or not moderation is the way to go or not. I guess I should start restricting everything, that way I'll get resentful and angry about my "diet" then maybe I can actually see some results!0 -
I'd also like to point out that the majority of folks who are jumping in to agree with you are significantly far from reaching their goals.
just. saying.
You might want to double check that. How's it going with *your* goals?
just saying
i'm incredibly healthy. my goals at the moment are purely aesthetic because of the industry i work in.
Restaurant?0 -
let's see...
1) Reddy charges in to thread (check)
2) Reddy creates strawman counter-argument (check)
3) Reddy passive-aggressively attacks OP (check)
4) Reddy reports everyone who disagrees with him ( )
so far 3 out of 4.
it seems like i've watched this movie many, many, many times before. it's kind of a boring movie to be honest.
I don't passive aggressively attack the OP, I openly attack the OP. :laugh:
Reddy is angry that openly flout all his rules and haven't died or developed serious health problems yet.
His best answer is consistently "you'll get yours, one day!"
yup. and given your 5000mg of sodium intake each day, I still stand behind it too.0 -
I'd also like to point out that the majority of folks who are jumping in to agree with you are significantly far from reaching their goals.
just. saying.
You might want to double check that. How's it going with *your* goals?
just saying
His goal he reached? :huh:
I would think he's doing something right by his ticker...
If people want to eat pop tarts or mcd's everyday and count calories for life that's their choice if people want to eat nothing but fish and do a rain dance around their meals before eating it, or anywhere in between the two why does it really matter?
Do what works for you and don't worry about other people's choices and maybe then the forum would be filled with less childish topics and people could actually find helpful topics easier.0 -
I know it has been said, but I want to just...say it again.
There's a difference between not eating a food that makes you sick because it makes you sick, and not eating a food that doesn't make you sick because you're following a certain diet.
And to the previous poster who noticed that people who agreed tend to be a bit farther away from their goals...I have a bit to go, but I've lost a lot too.
Moderation, friends
Life is about moderation, why should eating be any different?
I don't eat foods that make me sick, not because I think they're EVIL FATTY DEATH FOODS but because uh.....they make me sick.
^This. I actually can't believe it has to be explained that OP didn't mean foods that you are allergic to and that make you sick vs. a diet..... And I may not be significantly close to my goal either, but I have lost 40 lbs (my ticker needs updated, I only do it once a month) and I feel like that is significant to me. And I don't cut out foods.0 -
Not eating foods to avoid a medical condition != not eating foods to be part of a "miracle" diet
This is sure to keep the post on track!
/lol
/I still prefer low carb0 -
:drinker: Most sensible response yet!!Is this a license to eat junk food? Food filled with preservatives and fillers? Food that causes cancer in lab rats?
[b[]Success is not in dieting, it's in lifestyle changes.[/b]
:flowerforyou: It does make a difference in what I eat and my energy level, I agree.Right on! I've tried both theories and have to say that eating what you want doesn't work. I feel full of energy and lose weight quicker when I eat healthy.
This thread is in response to me advising to add calories to a diet by eating things like nuts and avocados over pizza.0 -
I agree if by "diet" you mean to lose weight. Eliminating or prohibiting any food groups because you will lose weight faster is wrong. A calorie deficit is how to achieve weight loss. However, there are lots of health reasons people have to eliminate foods other then the obvious medical conditions like allergies or intolerances. The health reason to eliminate a food maybe as simple as they feel better without it. For example: I feel better with little to no wheat because wheat makes me bloated. I do not have a medical condition to eliminate it and I do not do it for weight loss.
You can not dictate peoples personal choice to eat or not to eat whatever they want in their "diet" as described below.
From dictionary.com
di·et
/ˈdī-it/Noun
1.The kinds of food that a person, animal, or community habitually eats.
2.A legislative assembly in certain countries.0 -
Whew, sorry I'm late guys, traffic was a b!tch. In!
Where we at? Milk-death, McDonaldeath?0 -
I totally agree.
My "bad" high fat/low carb diet cured diabetes, gum disease, acid reflux, chronic indigestion/bloating, sleep apnea, insomnia, severe depression, binge eating disorder, borderline personality disorder, anxiety, chronic pain, chronic fatigue, chronic joint pain, chronic illness/infections, skin rashes, acne... am I forgetting any?.... Oh, yeah, it is also curing obesity without hunger, cravings, binging and without the need to severely restrict calories or participate in hours and hours of chronic cardio.
Strangely, I will be sticking with my "bad" diet forever because I do not ever want to be sick and fat again. But I have no problem with everyone telling me how "bad" it is. :drinker:0 -
This thread is in response to me advising to add calories to a diet by eating things like nuts and avocados over pizza.
Huh? No, it's not. This thread has nothing to do with you or anything you said.0 -
I guess I should start restricting everything, that way I'll get resentful and angry about my "diet" then maybe I can actually see some results!
Anger burns calories, don't ya know0 -
But mah allergies!
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I'd also like to point out that the majority of folks who are jumping in to agree with you are significantly far from reaching their goals.
just. saying.
You might want to double check that. How's it going with *your* goals?
just saying
His goal he reached? :huh:
I would think he's doing something right by his ticker...
If people want to eat pop tarts or mcd's everyday and count calories for life that's their choice if people want to eat nothing but fish and do a rain dance around their meals before eating it, or anywhere in between the two why does it really matter?
Do what works for you and don't worry about other people's choices and maybe then the forum would be filled with less childish topics and people could actually find helpful topics easier.
:drinker: :drinker: :drinker: :drinker:0 -
:drinker: Most sensible response yet!!Is this a license to eat junk food? Food filled with preservatives and fillers? Food that causes cancer in lab rats?
[b[]Success is not in dieting, it's in lifestyle changes.[/b]
:flowerforyou: It does make a difference in what I eat and my energy level, I agree.Right on! I've tried both theories and have to say that eating what you want doesn't work. I feel full of energy and lose weight quicker when I eat healthy.
This thread is in response to me advising to add calories to a diet by eating things like nuts and avocados over pizza.
how dare you...0 -
I think the true answer here is that you shouldn't use the "D" word. Because if you're on a diet, that implies that this isn't how you always plan to eat - which implies eventual failure.0
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This thread is in response to me advising to add calories to a diet by eating things like nuts and avocados over pizza.
Huh? No, it's not. This thread has nothing to do with you or anything you said.
OOOO an avocado pesto pizza sprinkled with pine nuts! See best of both worlds I should get a Nobel Peace prize or something for uniting such divisive parties. Hail to me...next stop Washington DC.0 -
Orthorexia. It's the swine flu of 2013.0
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My diet prohibits hemlock... I think you should go have some hemlock tea for me.0
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who are you to say what is and isn't a bad diet?
moreover, why should people eat foods that make them ill?
seems to me there are plenty of reasons for people not to eat certain foods.
Well if a certain food makes someone ill, why would they eat it?
lol Mr. Jonnythan is right. For most people that aren't training to have the worlds smallest waist, worlds biggest muscles, bodybuilder of the universe, exercise health-nut God or whatever, diets shouldn't be restrictive, in my opinion. They should point to what is better for you and encourage healthy choices, but also allow you to eat what you want, in moderation. I don't eat caviar, kale, strawberries, cottage cheese, and many other things because they make me feel "ill". My "diet" doesn't tell me not to eat those, I tell myself. My diet is eating what I want in moderation. Stuff that is really bad for me I eat very rarely, but I still indulge. Bacon, steak, pizza, fast food, big family get together dinners, Oxtails, more delicious yummy stuff, etc. Just doesn't get consumed everyday!
P.S. you should be reported for the way you harass folks when they disagree with you. Just agree to disagree or don't comment. Be friendly and not so critical of everything and everyone. Also, REALLY rude that you jump on folks (like me and others) who are working hard to get to their goals but have a way to go until we get there. I don't want to drop all 40lbs in a day because I live off tree bark and kelp and workout for 6 hours a day. People whose jobs are not exercise/fitness related and sit at a desk everyday with little to no opportunity to workout until they get home and have dinner with their family can't all be how you are with fitness and health. Just let folks live. Please?
Thanks and have a great day 0 -
Orthorexia. It's the swine flu of 2013.
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This thread is in response to me advising to add calories to a diet by eating things like nuts and avocados over pizza.
People go overboard sometimes with touchy subjects. Everyone wants to be right. I agree with you, but had to throw in my 2 cents since I pre-planned eating pizza tonight lol. It's a planned indulgence only becuase I will be working out a ton today and will enjoy it! But on any normal given day I'm with ya: nuts and avocados over pizza all the way! 0 -
I'd also like to point out that the majority of folks who are jumping in to agree with you are significantly far from reaching their goals.
just. saying.
You might want to double check that. How's it going with *your* goals?
just saying
His goal he reached? :huh:
I would think he's doing something right by his ticker...
If people want to eat pop tarts or mcd's everyday and count calories for life that's their choice if people want to eat nothing but fish and do a rain dance around their meals before eating it, or anywhere in between the two why does it really matter?
Do what works for you and don't worry about other people's choices and maybe then the forum would be filled with less childish topics and people could actually find helpful topics easier.
Dude - if he's at his goal, why is his ticker at the far *left* instead of far *right*
My ONLY point, was that a lot of the people agreeing with the OP were actually NOT significantly far from reaching their goals. A good portion of them are just as close to their goal as he is, if not significantly closer, or already at goal.
Yay for reading comprehension.0 -
I don't get it. I'm vegetarian, 3rd generation. For me, meat is bad.
My son has a ton of allergies. His diet is strict for a reason. And because of that strict diet, we do give him chicken or turkey every so often.
My other son is sensitive to gluten and peas. So I avoid those while nursing. That's not bad.
After a lot of research, I and my children's doctors agree that GMOs are probably one of the major causes of my sons' allergies. So avoiding GMOs is not bad.
Really, it should be about lifestyle. I'm not saying anyone should avoid certain things or not avoid them, but figure out what works for you and do it, and please don't make it sound as though people who chose to avoid certain foods have made a bad choice.
Of course, trying to force their diet on you, now *that's* bad!0 -
That is all.
Yup, like veganism.0 -
I'd also like to point out that the majority of folks who are jumping in to agree with you are significantly far from reaching their goals.
just. saying.
You might want to double check that. How's it going with *your* goals?
just saying
His goal he reached? :huh:
I would think he's doing something right by his ticker...
If people want to eat pop tarts or mcd's everyday and count calories for life that's their choice if people want to eat nothing but fish and do a rain dance around their meals before eating it, or anywhere in between the two why does it really matter?
Do what works for you and don't worry about other people's choices and maybe then the forum would be filled with less childish topics and people could actually find helpful topics easier.
Dude - if he's at his goal, why is his ticker at the far *left* instead of far *right*
My ONLY point, was that a lot of the people agreeing with the OP were actually NOT significantly far from reaching their goals. A good portion of them are just as close to their goal as he is, if not significantly closer, or already at goal.
Yay for reading comprehension.
He's trying to gain weight, and MFP's tickers don't really work that way.0 -
Agree - or any diet that asks you to completey eliminate an actual food group (i.e grains, fruits, dairy, etc) that provides vital vitamins and other nutrients to your body.
Common sense says if there is a medical reason (i.e. allergy or a physician-diagnosed health issue) for not consuming a particular food, don't consume it.
I'm positive that doesn't fall in line with the spirit of CoachReddy's message.0 -
Orthorexia. It's the swine flu of 2013.
nobody in this thread has orthorexia. please stop throwing that term around. it's no different than liberally calling anyone eating 1200 cal an anorexic.0
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