PSA: Any diet that prohibits certain foods is a bad diet.

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Beating the dead horse again, are we? Why are you so offended by the notion that some people don't want to eat EVERY food available on this planet?

Not eating a food because you don't want to/are allergic to it is very different from not eating foods you WANT to eat because some diet expert told you not to.

That's what this is about. Denying yourself foods that you want, because some "diet plan" says you have to, is bad.

That's a HUGELY important distinction you just made! I DO eat the foods I want, when I want them. I just WANT to eat "clean" foods more often than not!

I don't WANT to eat gluten 95% of the time. I don't WANT to eat dairy 95% of the time.

if you're cutting something out you enjoy, then obviously that's not a good idea. but that's why your inflammatory, blanket statement of a post that you made just to start a ****storm was ill conceived in the first place. If you cut things out of your diet, and you FEEL BETTER for having done so, and thus enjoy life without them, tell me how that's a bad diet.

please.

It didn't start a ****storm. The comments in this thread have been almost universally supportive of the idea. And the only people who disagreed are the ones who intentionally misunderstood the OP.

Again: if a "diet plan" tells you that you're not allowed to eat certain foods, it is a bad diet.

In the same breath, a diet plan that tells you to eat everything you want whenever you want is a bad diet plan. The entire point of everything is to moderate yourself, and do what makes you feel better. Aka, you saying that someone doing paleo or whatever diet they want to do is bad, then you're just as wrong as they are.

Why does everyone have to be so mean?

who are you to say what is and isn't a bad diet?

moreover, why should people eat foods that make them ill?

seems to me there are plenty of reasons for people not to eat certain foods.

^^^^THIS^^^ Thanks, Coach.

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Beating the dead horse again, are we? Why are you so offended by the notion that some people don't want to eat EVERY food available on this planet?

Not eating a food because you don't want to/are allergic to it is very different from not eating foods you WANT to eat because some diet expert told you not to.

That's what this is about. Denying yourself foods that you want, because some "diet plan" says you have to, is bad.

That's a HUGELY important distinction you just made! I DO eat the foods I want, when I want them. I just WANT to eat "clean" foods more often than not!

I don't WANT to eat gluten 95% of the time. I don't WANT to eat dairy 95% of the time.

if you're cutting something out you enjoy, then obviously that's not a good idea. but that's why your inflammatory, blanket statement of a post that you made just to start a ****storm was ill conceived in the first place. If you cut things out of your diet, and you FEEL BETTER for having done so, and thus enjoy life without them, tell me how that's a bad diet.

please.

It didn't start a ****storm. The comments in this thread have been almost universally supportive of the idea. And the only people who disagreed are the ones who intentionally misunderstood the OP.

Again: if a "diet plan" tells you that you're not allowed to eat certain foods, it is a bad diet.

*sigh*

you didn't say "diet plan", you said "diet" which are two different things in real life.

had you said "diet plan" i'd have agreed with you, but you enjoy starting posts that roll and start flame wars... so... i guess, well done?

I don't think that's even mildly true, everyone focuses on calories and not on adequate nutrition. Bread isn't good for you, candy isn't good for you, red meats aren't that great for you. There are a lot of health benefits to cutting unhealthy foods. I WANT hot Cheetos, but they make me feel terrible there's not redeemable value in eating a lot of processed foods. There's nothing wrong with cutting the bad habits, and you're lying to yourself if you're not willing to do the research and tell yourself that it's healthy when it isn't.

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who are you to say what is and isn't a bad diet?

A person of reasonable intelligence.

ah.

you eat mcdonalds and other fast food every single day, you've been trying to lose 20 pounds for over 2 years, and you seem to believe you somehow have the authority to determine what is and isn't healthy for everyone on MFP?

I'd also like to point out that the majority of folks who are jumping in to agree with you are significantly far from reaching their goals.

just. saying.

This is awfully close to body shaming. I don't think this is appropriate.

That is all.

Sounds like some people need to check their thin privilege.

My diet prohibits cottage cheese.

Limiting yourself is also denying yourself something you want, it's denying you of more of that stuff. That's what a diet is, limiting things you eat, to what's best for you.

If you say "EAT EVERYTHING YOU WANT! in moderation" that's the exact as saying, eat in moderation, so not everything you want.

:drinker: :drinker: YES!!! Moderation is just another form of a restrictive diet plan, just like paleo/atkins/lowcarb/primal etc are diet plans. With moderation, your limiting what you want by having less of it. It works for some individuals, and that's great, but low carb high fat works for some others like me too, which is great as well. :flowerforyou:

who are you to say what is and isn't a bad diet?

moreover, why should people eat foods that make them ill?

seems to me there are plenty of reasons for people not to eat certain foods.

I knew you would make an appearance lol

I dunno if I agree fully with OP. Some diets restrict foods for reasons such as to lower cholesterol or to steer clear of chemically enhanced foods. Most people that jump on the health band wagon generally want to be healthy and lose weight so they may live and lead healthier lives.

I generally eat what I like(minus processed foods) with the exception of one time I had a woman friend trick me into eating rocky mountain oysters.. I was using the restroom washing my hands when she ordered them. I thought they were breaded chicken nuggets and they were pretty darn good in the sauce only to have my waitress look at my woman friend and they asked me if I like them, I said yes and they both started laughing. I knew some thing was up when every one laughed when I said they were good. Then I took a long look and studied them and suddenly I realized the nuggets were flat and I so asked what they were. Woman says they were bull balls aka rocky mountain oysters. At first I was grossed out but I was past the point of no return. Then suddenly 2 weeks later l became BIG AND STRONG LIKE BULL and have remained that way ever since!!



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who are you to say what is and isn't a bad diet?

moreover, why should people eat foods that make them ill?

seems to me there are plenty of reasons for people not to eat certain foods.

I knew you would make an appearance lol

well that was kind of the point. want a medal? haha