Guys please explain..
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My answer had nothing in it differentiating the complexity of one gender over another. What about it makes you believe otherwise?
QFT. I'm not saying the OP is guilty of this particular behavior, but very often when I see questions like this, the underlying thought process is one of "My gender (or gender identity) is nuanced, complex, and to individualized to be boiled down to a pat answer. The other gender, on the other hand, is EASY to understand because they're just silly [insert term for male or female child]."You cannot reduce the male psyche to a set of stereotypical behaviors.
I understand that there will be no "pat" answer.
I wasn't looking for one.
Just feedback- which I'm getting plenty of.
So, your answer is that men are complex and women are...
Can you give me an example?0 -
I do not know what example would be useful to you. My initial response did not specify a gender bias because I didn't apply it to either gender or gender identity. Your (apparent) reading of it was that I was saying something specific about men, and by implication, something about women. I do not know what "example" would illustrate this point for you that is not merely a retread of the original response I gave you.
My answer had nothing in it differentiating the complexity of one gender over another. What about it makes you believe otherwise?
QFT. I'm not saying the OP is guilty of this particular behavior, but very often when I see questions like this, the underlying thought process is one of "My gender (or gender identity) is nuanced, complex, and to individualized to be boiled down to a pat answer. The other gender, on the other hand, is EASY to understand because they're just silly [insert term for male or female child]."You cannot reduce the male psyche to a set of stereotypical behaviors.
I understand that there will be no "pat" answer.
I wasn't looking for one.
Just feedback- which I'm getting plenty of.
So, your answer is that men are complex and women are...
Can you give me an example?0 -
Men and women aren't different (minus the physical parts of course). Trying to sum up people based on general things like gender, race, hair color, preferences, etc is sad. People are individuals and regardless of what you are trying to judge them on, are their own person. Which means they don't all act the same.
When you generalize, you limit who that person is and can be to you. Why not look at someone as a person, rather than a statistic.0 -
I really saw the bro-code when my son played High School football. Even after he graduated, with those guys it still exist. It was actually quite cool. I really respected them for it. Of course, I am sure it is different as men grow older. But, its a good thing. Men sometimes need to be with men without women and women need to be with women without men. At least it works for me.
1) video camera
2) website
3) profit
finally a valid underpants gnomes business plan!0 -
So, why do little guys pick on big guys if they know the big guy can whip their butt?
Nobody said guys were logical.
Sometimes, I'd say it could be a case of testing a new person, regardless of if he's bigger or not. Other times, it's a case of mis-reading the target.
Despite my size, I tend to be quiet. I don't see a point in bothering people needlesly. I know I'm big. I know I'm smart. I know I can take care of myself. So why make a fuss about it? What do I need to prove? Some misinterpreted that as a sign I was a pushover. To their detriment, they pushed the limit (probably trying to say "hey look, I can push this bigger dog around") and found out that 1) it's simply a matter of taking a lot to make me snap and 2) when I do snap, I snap HARD.0 -
I do not know what example would be useful to you. My initial response did not specify a gender bias because I didn't apply it to either gender or gender identity. Your (apparent) reading of it was that I was saying something specific about men, and by implication, something about women. I do not know what "example" would illustrate this point for you that is not merely a retread of the original response I gave you.
My answer had nothing in it differentiating the complexity of one gender over another. What about it makes you believe otherwise?
QFT. I'm not saying the OP is guilty of this particular behavior, but very often when I see questions like this, the underlying thought process is one of "My gender (or gender identity) is nuanced, complex, and to individualized to be boiled down to a pat answer. The other gender, on the other hand, is EASY to understand because they're just silly [insert term for male or female child]."You cannot reduce the male psyche to a set of stereotypical behaviors.
I understand that there will be no "pat" answer.
I wasn't looking for one.
Just feedback- which I'm getting plenty of.
So, your answer is that men are complex and women are...
Can you give me an example?
I am sorry, I misread your response.0 -
I have no clue what OP is asking0
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I have no clue what OP is asking
3 pages in and no one does...0 -
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Men and women aren't different (minus the physical parts of course). Trying to sum up people based on general things like gender, race, hair color, preferences, etc is sad. People are individuals and regardless of what you are trying to judge them on, are their own person. Which means they don't all act the same.
When you generalize, you limit who that person is and can be to you. Why not look at someone as a person, rather than a statistic.
Men and women are different.
I'm not generalizing or looking at someone as a "statistic".0 -
I could tell you but then they are going to have to take my balls so that's not going to happen.0
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I always thought the 'Male Code of Conduct' was to leave a 'one urinal gap' between you and other urinal-users where possible. This thread has turned out to be about something entirely different...0
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well then, let the brodom and broraderie commence, as you are ready for to brodown and leave your hybronation \m/
you will be placed on immediate brobation until such time as your broformance can be signed off by your local brosician \m/*****any bros caught violating rule 1 of the bro code will have their bro card revoked immediately - no access to brotein, broscientology, no broceptions***** \m/
^^This^^
my brosician just looked at my broficency reports. no broblem, I'm good to bro.
You guys are a hoot :happy:
I think they sound like a BROken record.
Just kidding.
Brosume the position.0 -
The Alpha male thing is with the younger guys. The older guys have nothing to prove anymore.0
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The Alpha male thing is with the younger guys. The older guys have nothing to prove anymore.
Interesting0 -
The Alpha male thing is with the younger guys. The older guys have nothing to prove anymore.
Interesting
Younger guys grow out of it....eventually,lol.0 -
The Alpha male thing is with the younger guys. The older guys have nothing to prove anymore.
Interesting
Younger guys grow out of it....eventually,lol.
Sometimes it doesn't appear that way.
Or maybe it just becomes more subtle and refined??0 -
I really saw the bro-code when my son played High School football. Even after he graduated, with those guys it still exist. It was actually quite cool. I really respected them for it. Of course, I am sure it is different as men grow older. But, its a good thing. Men sometimes need to be with men without women and women need to be with women without men. At least it works for me.
1) video camera
2) website
3) profit
finally a valid underpants gnomes business plan!
I soooo didnt mean it that way. :noway: :laugh:0 -
The Alpha male thing is with the younger guys. The older guys have nothing to prove anymore.
Interesting
Younger guys grow out of it....eventually,lol.
Sometimes it doesn't appear that way.
Or maybe it just becomes more subtle and refined??
Some may feel the need to prove they "still got it" maybe. Whatever "it" is.
Maybe understanding what this thread is about?
I don't need to prove anything to any other man at this point in my life, but do want to best what a younger me looked and felt like. Maybe others still feel the drive to be better than someone else.0 -
Ah, so even how he loses is important.
He can lose like a man or a sissy?
So, why do little guys pick on big guys if they know the big guy can whip their butt?
This also answers another of your questions but I am former military and work at a defense contractor so my "enviornment" probably colors my respose somewhat.
It is highly important how you win, even more important than why you are fighting. The argument is really just an excuse to get to the fight in most cases. You want your win to be undisputed and that includes not "cheating". Just look at the UFC. Nobody wants to see a fight go all 3 or 5 rounds. The best fights are over in less than a minute. Guys like "finishers".
Why do little guys stand up to big guys? Easy. They have nothing to lose. I am 5'11" around 250 lbs and have trained quite a bit in the martial arts. If I win a fight, no big surprise everything was stacked my way most of the time. If one of the kids from engineering who is 120 lbs soaking wet knocks me out then he has "manned up" an overcome "insurmountable odds". If I choke him out then I am just "beating up a geek" and he gets sympathy for not backing down. There is really no incentive for him not to fight and every incentive for me to find another solution to the dispute. This is also why I will never arm wrestle a girl.0 -
Ah, so even how he loses is important.
He can lose like a man or a sissy?
So, why do little guys pick on big guys if they know the big guy can whip their butt?
This also answers another of your questions but I am former military and work at a defense contractor so my "enviornment" probably colors my respose somewhat.
It is highly important how you win, even more important than why you are fighting. The argument is really just an excuse to get to the fight in most cases. You want your win to be undisputed and that includes not "cheating". Just look at the UFC. Nobody wants to see a fight go all 3 or 5 rounds. The best fights are over in less than a minute. Guys like "finishers".
Why do little guys stand up to big guys? Easy. They have nothing to lose. I am 5'11" around 250 lbs and have trained quite a bit in the martial arts. If I win a fight, no big surprise everything was stacked my way most of the time. If one of the kids from engineering who is 120 lbs soaking wet knocks me out then he has "manned up" an overcome "insurmountable odds". If I choke him out then I am just "beating up a geek" and he gets sympathy for not backing down. There is really no incentive for him not to fight and every incentive for me to find another solution to the dispute. This is also why I will never arm wrestle a girl.
Whew!
I have heard guys are more of risk takers.
True?
My incentive not to fight is to not get hurt... :happy:0 -
I have heard guys are more of risk takers.
True?
My incentive not to fight is to not get hurt... :happy:
I don't really see fighting as a risk other than being seen as a bully or possibly being arrested. Unless it is a criminal attack (i.e. he wants you dead, no witnesses, etc...) and is just social positioning or sport there is usually very little chance of permanent injury from a fight. The goal is to win and if things start to go badly lose valiantly. The party with the upper hand will usually show mercy and stop after you have "had enough" which, coincidentally, also prevents the ever-dreaded miracle comeback.
As the great Evel Kenievel said,“bones heal, pain is temporary, and chicks dig scars...”0 -
I have heard guys are more of risk takers.
True?
My incentive not to fight is to not get hurt... :happy:
I don't really see fighting as a risk other than being seen as a bully or possibly being arrested. Unless it is a criminal attack (i.e. he wants you dead, no witnesses, etc...) and is just social positioning or sport there is usually very little chance of permanent injury from a fight. The goal is to win and if things start to go badly lose valiantly. The party with the upper hand will usually show mercy and stop after you have "had enough" which, coincidentally, also prevents the ever-dreaded miracle comeback.
As the great Evel Kenievel said,“bones heal, pain is temporary, and chicks dig scars...”
Oh, right, the "very little chance of permanent injury" train of thought....
Of course... :noway:0 -
I'm taking notes...
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The Alpha male thing is with the younger guys. The older guys have nothing to prove anymore.
Interesting
I call bullsh*t...once an alpha, always an alpha...do NOT take my alpha male away...gawd!0 -
aww man.. i thought this thread finally went away a few days ago. it's been a week and i still dont know what the OP is asking.0
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The First rule ....is don't talk about it...0
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The Alpha male thing is with the younger guys. The older guys have nothing to prove anymore.
Interesting
this is complete BS. Being an Alpha has nothing to do with being young. Lots of women mistake the bad boy for being the alpha male that is simply not that case. I would say type A personality is often the Alpha Male. There are many characteristics of an alpha male that will not be identified by people who believe alpha male is an age thing having to prove something.0 -
...The Male Code of Conduct
When guys are with a group of guys (work, sports etc.), what is the ultimate goal and what do you do/not do to achieve that goal?
How do your brains work?
Is is really all about "winning"? The competitive drive?
And the real point of my post: how does this carry over into your relationship with your wife/girlfriend? Or does it?
Guy code? There's a guy code.
No naked touching.
Don't stand at the urinal next to someone if you can space it out.
You don't have to talk about things just to fill the air with sound. Silence is good.
Brains work the same as anyone elses. Electrical impulses. Chemically driven electrical impulses.
Winning doesn't matter as long as I am winning.
As for the wife and te girlfriend. That's why there is conflict between the sexes. It doesn't carry over well.0 -
...The Male Code of Conduct
When guys are with a group of guys (work, sports etc.), what is the ultimate goal and what do you do/not do to achieve that goal?
How do your brains work?
Is is really all about "winning"? The competitive drive?
And the real point of my post: how does this carry over into your relationship with your wife/girlfriend? Or does it?
Guy code? There's a guy code.
No naked touching.
Don't stand at the urinal next to someone if you can space it out.
You don't have to talk about things just to fill the air with sound. Silence is good.
Brains work the same as anyone elses. Electrical impulses. Chemically driven electrical impulses.
Winning doesn't matter as long as I am winning.
As for the wife and te girlfriend. That's why there is conflict between the sexes. It doesn't carry over well.
wife and the girlfriend -> ugh I'm in the second category.0
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