I have a huge pet peeve with unleashed animals
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It's sort of an ego trip for an owner to walk with an unleashed dog. I used to do it myself (when I was in my early 20's). Usually I was training for obedience competitions but it's really not safe because even intelligent socialized highly trained animals can be instinctive and bolt after a small animal.
The further I got into the obedience and confirmation show world, the more I learned from seasoned professionals about proper responsibility of keeping the dogs out of harms way. It's a delicate balance socializing them yet keeping everyone safe.
I used to balk at the idea of keeping them crated while traveling but was told the story of a vehicle with uncrated show dogs that crashed. The dogs survived but only to be hit by cars as they ran about the highway.
I owned Dalmatians in the height of 101 Dalmatian craze in the 90's. As I walked them, many people especially with kids would want to come up and pet them. Later, as I got older and wiser, I leashed them.0 -
Wouldn't the simplest solution be for you to not run by their property and run somewhere else?
Take your logic and get out.
It might be simple but it's the wrong answer. You're just blaming the victim.0 -
I think the fines to these irresponsible pet owners should be HUGE! Perhaps is they spent big bucks on the fines they would seriously consider a leash or somehow resolving THERE issue.0
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Wouldn't the simplest solution be for you to not run by their property and run somewhere else?
Take your logic and get out.
It might be simple but it's the wrong answer. You're just blaming the victim.
My apologies. I didn't get the memo that the world revolved around OP.... You're totally right! Chain those dogs! Hell, put them down for chasing someone who was running at their property that they might have perceived to be a threat to them and their owners.....0 -
Wouldn't the simplest solution be for you to not run by their property and run somewhere else?
Take your logic and get out.
It might be simple but it's the wrong answer. You're just blaming the victim.
My apologies. I didn't get the memo that the world revolved around OP.... You're totally right! Chain those dogs! Hell, put them down for chasing someone who was running at their property that they might have perceived to be a threat to them and their owners.....
Sidewalk = Not her property.
If someone runs through a person's yard and the dog attacks them hey I'm totally with you. They were asking for it and had no business in their yard.
The world does not revolve around your pets. If you can't control them and keep them on your property then chain them or someone else can/will put them down.
A dog's perception has no bearing on anything. They're dogs.
The OP should not have to avoid entire parts of town because some people let their dogs roam free. And the law is on her side.0 -
Wouldn't the simplest solution be for you to not run by their property and run somewhere else?
Take your logic and get out.
It might be simple but it's the wrong answer. You're just blaming the victim.
My apologies. I didn't get the memo that the world revolved around OP.... You're totally right! Chain those dogs! Hell, put them down for chasing someone who was running at their property that they might have perceived to be a threat to them and their owners.....
Thanks for the chuckle.
It's on the person CAUSING the problem to modify their behavior. Everyone has a right to jog down the street without being chased by the dog. The dog and owner are wrong, the op is not.
Do you tell rape victims they should just wear a longer skirt? World doesnt revolve around them. Poor guy just wanted to get laid.0 -
If any dog chases me on publc propety, (and yes, that includes the sidewalk), I will use pepper spray on them. I cannot tell if your dog is chasing me to play, or attack, since these can look very similar.
In my city there is a leash law, and a good reason for it. It is safer for everyone (including the pet).
I have nothing against dogs, they are just doing what God designed them to do. They protect their territory. The problem is that unless a dog is very well trained, he does not know property lines!
My neighbor lets his dogs roam. His dogs then come and charge me on my property. The police cannot do anything unless they actually catch the dog out. The man tells me I should walk on the other side of my own street.
I really should just pepper spray the owner!!! After all, it realy is his fault, not the dogs.
Sooo now I never run without pepper spray and i have used it (only on dogs, unfortunately.)
And yes this is my pet peeve too!0 -
I would learn how to protect yourself. I would not be the least bit concerened of legal actions if I killed or wounded an animal that was showing aggression towards me or a loved one. It’s better to be judged by twelve than to be carried by six.0
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OP does NOT live in town. She lives in the country. Whole different set of rules here.
As a woman, if you see a bunch of "gang-type" guys down an alley way would you run down there or steer clear for your safety because you are scared? SAME thing. You are afraid of the big dogs and thats where they LIVE. Run elsewhere.0 -
OP does NOT live in town. She lives in the country. Whole different set of rules here.
As a woman, if you see a bunch of "gang-type" guys down an alley way would you run down there or steer clear for your safety because you are scared? SAME thing. You are afraid of the big dogs and thats where they LIVE. Run elsewhere.
Excuse me? She posted the laws of the area she lives in, guess what? You have to keep your dog away from people.
And I would love to hear you elaborate on what you mean by "gang-type guys", I really would.
You're wrong, in the eyes of the law and as a responsible pet owner. It's people just like you who give pet owners a bad name.0 -
OP does NOT live in town. She lives in the country. Whole different set of rules here.
As a woman, if you see a bunch of "gang-type" guys down an alley way would you run down there or steer clear for your safety because you are scared? SAME thing. You are afraid of the big dogs and thats where they LIVE. Run elsewhere.
You missed where the OP posted her leash law ... which leaves you arguing from a position of ignorance0 -
You don't even know me. My dogs are in a fenced in yard when they are out. They don't run after others. OP stated that she is RUNNING IN THE COUNTRY. What is the problem with running up a different road. Don't deliberately put yourself into a potentially dangerous situation just so you can go and complain about it.0
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Wouldn't the simplest solution be for you to not run by their property and run somewhere else?
Take your logic and get out.
It might be simple but it's the wrong answer. You're just blaming the victim.
My apologies. I didn't get the memo that the world revolved around OP.... You're totally right! Chain those dogs! Hell, put them down for chasing someone who was running at their property that they might have perceived to be a threat to them and their owners.....
Excuse me but I am not running on THEIR property I am running in the street, a public street. The world does NOT revolve around YOU or your snowflake of an animal. it is YOUR responsibility to control your pet, not my responsibility to avoid running infront of your house so your dog doesnt attack me. and How the hell would i know you have a dog loose in your yard that will chase me into the street? Should we all stay in our homes so you dont have take the extra step of training your animal or putting it on a leash?0 -
Excuse me but I am not running on THEIR property I am running in the street, a public street. The world does NOT revolve around YOU or your snowflake of an animal. it is YOUR responsibility to control your pet, not my responsibility to avoid running infront of your house so your dog doesnt attack me. and How the hell would i know you have a dog loose in your yard that will chase me into the street? Should we all stay in our homes so you dont have take the extra step of training your animal or putting it on a leash?
I would assume that if you ran there every day and the same dog chased you that the conclusion would be that the dog probably will be there tomorrow. Run somewhere else.0 -
You don't even know me. My dogs are in a fenced in yard when they are out. They don't run after others. OP stated that she is RUNNING IN THE COUNTRY. What is the problem with running up a different road. Don't deliberately put yourself into a potentially dangerous situation just so you can go and complain about it.
If she's not on their property the dogs can not bother her. What about that don't you get?
Instead of blaming her how about the people CAUSING the potentially dangerous situation?
You're wrong and have no position to defend yourself. Not legally or as a pet owner. You should stop.0 -
Excuse me but I am not running on THEIR property I am running in the street, a public street. The world does NOT revolve around YOU or your snowflake of an animal. it is YOUR responsibility to control your pet, not my responsibility to avoid running infront of your house so your dog doesnt attack me. and How the hell would i know you have a dog loose in your yard that will chase me into the street? Should we all stay in our homes so you dont have take the extra step of training your animal or putting it on a leash?
I would assume that if you ran there every day and the same dog chased you that the conclusion would be that the dog probably will be there tomorrow. Run somewhere else.
so clearly, you ARE the type of person that would tell a rape victim it was her fault. that much we DO know about you.0 -
Say what now? My kids have airsoft guns, and even with the heavy pellets, they don't do any damage. I don't recommend carrying an airsoft pistol to use against a dog because if the dog's over about 10 lbs, it will be completely ineffective.
Airsoft gun
Airsoft gun
Airsoft gun
And furthermore, airsoft gun.
You were saying?0 -
OP does NOT live in town. She lives in the country. Whole different set of rules here.
As a woman, if you see a bunch of "gang-type" guys down an alley way would you run down there or steer clear for your safety because you are scared? SAME thing. You are afraid of the big dogs and thats where they LIVE. Run elsewhere.
Wow....gang type guys.... there must be a whole set of different rules there.... Is banjo music a requirement there?? :noway:0 -
The issue isn't with leashes, it is with manners and training. My dogs are almost always off leash, and they are better behaved than most confined animals.
Though I must say you sound a bit like the city folk who move up here and then complain about the smells, noises and bugs associated with living in the country and around livestock. Perhaps you would be happier in the city?
Maybe you "know" your dogs are safe, but the poor sap the dog is charging and barking at certainly don't. I live by an immensely popular area for hiking, running, and walking, and when you see a pit bull racing toward you barking and the owner smiling saying "he won't bite"--I don't want to hit the dog--I want to punch the owner. And it's a public park with signs about having your dogs on leashes. Some people just never think rules apply to them.0 -
I go on walks with my dog daily and there is always this one dog that runs after us into the street. The owner just stares at us. I can undrstand if by accident (and this happens often) the dog gets out by chance but this is often occurance. I think it is ignorant to suggest not walking by that house then. The owner should have control of their dog and if one day that dog did bite at my dog or myself I would absolutly call the police on them!!
With that said, I let my dog off leash in the front yard and she is trained... She does NOT chase after people when they walk by, run etc.. and I think that is perfectly fine!
Be a responsible dog owner people!0 -
I have people like you where I live hahah I have my2 big dogs and let them off on our dog walk area and al the runners have something to say or pull a face .... It's a dog walking area you can run anywhere stop friggin crying and run somewhere Else simple! My baby's need exercise an there more important than you sorry
there off a leash because there safe . If they bite then you have a case but your just being a grump I'm afraid 0 -
Say what now? My kids have airsoft guns, and even with the heavy pellets, they don't do any damage. I don't recommend carrying an airsoft pistol to use against a dog because if the dog's over about 10 lbs, it will be completely ineffective.
Airsoft gun
Airsoft gun
Airsoft gun
And furthermore, airsoft gun.
You were saying?
I question if those are airsoft. Can you tell me the projectile velocity and weight that caused those holes? Because I've been shot by a rifle with a 430 fps muzzle velocity and a .3g round from about 5 feet away. Sure it stung, but damage? none.
Are you sure - we're talking about the toy guns that shoot plastic bbs here ...0 -
I keep my dog off leash, I don't care if you don't like it. I would also have been more worried about the goats, they're shifty, I don't trust em!
And if your dog charges or chases me and my dogs, I will shoot it. I don't care if you don't like it.
While play with my dogs in my front yard, I had an unleashed Rottweiler attack and seriously injure my Border Collie and Australian Shepard. It took a whole clip to put it down, but I did. Next time, I won't wait to find out if a dog is friendly or not. Charge or chase us, get shot.0 -
I have people like you where I live hahah I have my2 big dogs and let them off on our dog walk area and al the runners have something to say or pull a face .... It's a dog walking area you can run anywhere stop friggin crying and run somewhere Else simple! My baby's need exercise an there more important than you sorry there off a leash because there safe . If they bite then you have a case but your just being a grump I'm afraid
Is this real life?0 -
I have people like you where I live hahah I have my2 big dogs and let them off on our dog walk area and al the runners have something to say or pull a face .... It's a dog walking area you can run anywhere stop friggin crying and run somewhere Else simple! My baby's need exercise an there more important than you sorry there off a leash because there safe . If they bite then you have a case but your just being a grump I'm afraid
Is this real life?
Sure is
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I have people like you where I live hahah I have my2 big dogs and let them off on our dog walk area and al the runners have something to say or pull a face .... It's a dog walking area you can run anywhere stop friggin crying and run somewhere Else simple! My baby's need exercise an there more important than you sorry there off a leash because there safe . If they bite then you have a case but your just being a grump I'm afraid
Is this real life?
Sure is
I wasn't really sure because my third grader spells better than you do. She also understands people have responsibilities and owning a pet is a huge one.0 -
Say what now? My kids have airsoft guns, and even with the heavy pellets, they don't do any damage. I don't recommend carrying an airsoft pistol to use against a dog because if the dog's over about 10 lbs, it will be completely ineffective.
Airsoft gun
Airsoft gun
Airsoft gun
And furthermore, airsoft gun.
You were saying?
I question if those are airsoft. Can you tell me the projectile velocity and weight that caused those holes? Because I've been shot by a rifle with a 430 fps muzzle velocity and a .3g round from about 5 feet away. Sure it stung, but damage? none.
Are you sure - we're talking about the toy guns that shoot plastic bbs here ...
Yes ma'm they are. I have also seen first hand the damage they can do. I grew up in the country like the OP, and there were a few neighborhood kids that had small airsoft guns with plastic pellets. They and their parents thought they didn't do any damage so they were allowed to shoot at whatever they wanted. They took that to mean they could come into our yard at night and shoot our animals, one of which was a German shepherd, and they did the same damage as seen above to all of our animals that they got a hold of. Their lovely parents said that it wasn't their kids, there was no way that their pellets did that, but we found lots of little bright green plastic pellets in our yard, which are the ones they use. I'm sure there are times where it won't do any damage, but I've seen first hand that they can in fact, hurt.0 -
I have people like you where I live hahah I have my2 big dogs and let them off on our dog walk area and al the runners have something to say or pull a face .... It's a dog walking area you can run anywhere stop friggin crying and run somewhere Else simple! My baby's need exercise an there more important than you sorry there off a leash because there safe . If they bite then you have a case but your just being a grump I'm afraid
Is this real life?
Sure is
I wasn't really sure because my third grader spells better than you do.
Can you tell me what's misspelt my love0 -
I used to go for daily jogs, up to an hour per day, in my old neighborhood. I think in the 6 years I lived there, I may have encountered one loose dog, and the owner was fast on his pet's heels.
7 months ago I bought a beautiful house in a different neighborhood, different side of town. Actually a more prestigious and well-groomed area than the one I left. So I was very excited to get out and about and explore my new surroundings.
To my surprise, annoyance, and eventual rage, I have met with a minimum of two leash-free, roaming dogs per attempt. Never friendly, usually neutral at best, sometimes downright aggressive. Mind you, I tend to walk or jog on the side of the road, versus the sidewalk. I tend to have my earbuds in, and like to zone out and get into my own groove. I present no threat to these creatures.
I made the mistake twice of attempting to walk my daughter's dog, on a leash, in my new neighborhood. Never again. Having him with me made even more dogs come out, apparently of the woodwork, then ever. At this point I do not try to jog around my home, and I take the dog to a park if I want to walk him.
It infuriates me that I cannot engage in an activity I used to enjoy and now feel compelled to either work out inside my house, or go somewhere else. I know my city has leash laws but I also do not want to carry a cell phone and have to stop and call Animal Control every time I am harassed by an animal. I would spend more time talking on the phone than jogging, at this rate.0 -
I have people like you where I live hahah I have my2 big dogs and let them off on our dog walk area and al the runners have something to say or pull a face .... It's a dog walking area you can run anywhere stop friggin crying and run somewhere Else simple! My baby's need exercise an there more important than you sorry there off a leash because there safe . If they bite then you have a case but your just being a grump I'm afraid
Is this real life?
Sure is
I wasn't really sure because my third grader spells better than you do.
Can you tell me what's misspelt my love
*my two
*all
*babies
*and
*they're
*they're
*they're
*you're
And Punctuation.0
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