For everyone NOT losing or Stalling Out! READ THIS NOW!

Yeah..I read this whole post and you, OP do come off as very rude and bossy. Sorry but who do you think you are to be telling people what to do. I see it irritates you and all when others post about not losing and all that crap but maybe you should just not pay attention to it. Honestly I would rather read a worrisome post about a plateau than what I just read here. Just goes to show how many people in this community are flat out rude and high and mighty. People worry and post things..if that's their thing then so be it. I admit I posted a couple threads with my concerns. .not plateau related by the way..and maybe it might have annoyed some but oh f***ing well. That is all I am going to say. Have a nice day.

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I think we tend to forget that although many of us are now schooled in how to calculate things and diet, this is a SUPPORT forum which means many new members join daily and do not know the ins and outs that we do - so what seems repetitive to us, is new to them and they are seeking advice and patience. I think if it seems repetitive and annoying to someone reading it, then move on and don't comment - but why discourage the people truly seeking help and answers and mainly our support - it just comes across as rude and people will end up leaving thinking they cannot get help here..........just my two cents..............

Ironic that this is ONE MORE post about something that has already been said 100 times before in other posts, especially since this poster says "READ ABOUT THIS BEFORE YOU MAKE ANOTHER THREAD ABOUT THIS!"

Yeah..I read this whole post and you, OP do come off as very rude and bossy. Sorry but who do you think you are to be telling people what to do. I see it irritates you and all when others post about not losing and all that crap but maybe you should just not pay attention to it. Honestly I would rather read a worrisome post about a plateau than what I just read here. Just goes to show how many people in this community are flat out rude and high and mighty. People worry and post things..if that's their thing then so be it. I admit I posted a couple threads with my concerns. .not plateau related by the way..and maybe it might have annoyed some but oh f***ing well. That is all I am going to say. Have a nice day.

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I think we tend to forget that although many of us are now schooled in how to calculate things and diet, this is a SUPPORT forum which means many new members join daily and do not know the ins and outs that we do - so what seems repetitive to us, is new to them and they are seeking advice and patience. I think if it seems repetitive and annoying to someone reading it, then move on and don't comment - but why discourage the people truly seeking help and answers and mainly our support - it just comes across as rude and people will end up leaving thinking they cannot get help here..........just my two cents..............

Very well said. I agree 100%!!! I come here for positive, encouraging help, not to be treated like an idiot or made to feel like I don't deserve to be here because I might post something that people have read before! Either take a minute of your time to kindly answer my question, or leave no response at all. Don't act like you are better or more deserving because you have been here longer and understand all the ins and outs of posting and have the time to read hundreds of posts to find the one that will help you!

Actually I have not been here that long, and in no way was anything that I said discouraging. I am sorry if you took it that way, I was just saying what I thought people should know. If you don't like the WAY that I said it, then so be it, it was still said.

Second, do not just do cardio, like my idiot self, I decided that cardio would be the way to lose. It was BUT I lost a lot of muscle mass in the process. Also, as well as weight lifting and ab workouts with weights build muscle mass, and speed up your metabolism and heart rate, it also helps you burns calories for the next 48 hours as opposed to cardio which stops burning calories as soon as you stop.

Second, do not just do cardio, like my idiot self, I decided that cardio would be the way to lose. It was BUT I lost a lot of muscle mass in the process. Also, as well as weight lifting and ab workouts with weights build muscle mass, and speed up your metabolism and heart rate, it also helps you burns calories for the next 48 hours as opposed to cardio which stops burning calories as soon as you stop.

While the advice to do resistance and cardio is good advice. It's not true that you stop burning calories as soon as you stop doing cardio. You may stop burning soon after, but you may continue to burn for several hours. It just depends on you and what type of cardio you are doing.

Clinically it's called statistically insignificant. Even HIIT doesn't equate to much either when post workout movement/activity has been adjusted downwards, basically people move less (referred to as NEAT) after a tough workout and compensates for any after burn, but of course this doesn't mean everyone.

Second, do not just do cardio, like my idiot self, I decided that cardio would be the way to lose. It was BUT I lost a lot of muscle mass in the process. Also, as well as weight lifting and ab workouts with weights build muscle mass, and speed up your metabolism and heart rate, it also helps you burns calories for the next 48 hours as opposed to cardio which stops burning calories as soon as you stop.

While the advice to do resistance and cardio is good advice. It's not true that you stop burning calories as soon as you stop doing cardio. You may stop burning soon after, but you may continue to burn for several hours. It just depends on you and what type of cardio you are doing.

Clinically it's called statistically insignificant. Even HIIT doesn't equate to much either when post workout movement/activity has been adjusted downwards, basically people move less (referred to as NEAT) after a tough workout and compensates for any after burn, but of course this doesn't mean everyone.

Statistically insignificant in what way? And how does it compare to the amount of calories burned by having more muscle?

Does HIIT actually qualify as cardio? I always thought cardio = aerobic. When doing HIIT I doubt you'd be in the aerobic zone much.

Second, do not just do cardio, like my idiot self, I decided that cardio would be the way to lose. It was BUT I lost a lot of muscle mass in the process. Also, as well as weight lifting and ab workouts with weights build muscle mass, and speed up your metabolism and heart rate, it also helps you burns calories for the next 48 hours as opposed to cardio which stops burning calories as soon as you stop.

While the advice to do resistance and cardio is good advice. It's not true that you stop burning calories as soon as you stop doing cardio. You may stop burning soon after, but you may continue to burn for several hours. It just depends on you and what type of cardio you are doing.

Clinically it's called statistically insignificant. Even HIIT doesn't equate to much either when post workout movement/activity has been adjusted downwards, basically people move less (referred to as NEAT) after a tough workout and compensates for any after burn, but of course this doesn't mean everyone.

Statistically insignificant in what way? And how does it compare to the amount of calories burned by having more muscle?

Does HIIT actually qualify as cardio? I always thought cardio = aerobic. When doing HIIT I doubt you'd be in the aerobic zone much.

The after burn from aerobic and anaerobic cardio, which HIIT is, doesn't equate to much value calorie burn wise after adjusting for neat, which means None Exercise Activity Thermogenesis, basically daily movement other than deliberate exercise.

Hmm, I'm remembering a study done at a NC university that showed an average afterburn of 14 hours for cardio (exercise bike, I believe) among the participants, which were described as fit young men (or something similar). 14 hours seems significant, even if the burn was only slightly more than at rest w/o cardio.

But it's been a while since I read that study. Maybe I'll look it up to re-read later.

All studies show after burn and why we're talking about it, but anytime exercise is performed, especially at higher intensity people tend to not move as much after as compared to a day they didn't exercise....basically any calories from the after burn are compensated by less normal activity, In other words as far as weight loss is concerned the after burn is clinically insignificant. Don't really know any other way of explaining it, sorry.

So even though we are burning more at rest, we are at rest more, so not burning more overall? That's interesting. But surely that would not apply only to cardio.