Eating breakfast is making me hungrier
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I'd be interested to know what the broscience debunkers have to say on the topic. It seems logical that not eating until 3-4pm in the day, everyday (not intermitent fasting) would have a negative impact on metabolism but that could be all broscience for all I know.
Starting your first meal at 3 or 4pm is intermittent fasting.
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I agree with others, if you're not hungry in the morning then don't eat.
There are many Saturday or Sunday mornings when I've gone over on my calories the night before, and rather than eating a breakfast that morning because I "have to" I just go work out and assume I'm burning the overage of calories from the day before. 0 -
I'd be interested to know what the broscience debunkers have to say on the topic. It seems logical that not eating until 3-4pm in the day, everyday (not intermitent fasting) would have a negative impact on metabolism but that could be all broscience for all I know.
Starting your first meal at 3 or 4pm is intermittent fasting.
Sorry,I thought IM was more something you did occassionally as in 1-2 days per week as opposed ot everyday. So I guess I was thinking of "occassional" IM. I'll do a little google research to get smarter on the topic so I don't derail this thread from the original topic. Thanks for pointing out my mistake.0 -
OP I am exactly the same way so I decided if I'm not hungry, then I'm not going to eat. Isn't eating when we're not hungry how we got here? :ohwell:0
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I'm with you here. When I used to eat breakfast, I got very hungry by mid-morning. Now I choose to wait until lunch to eat, and it works out pretty well.I'd be interested to know what the broscience debunkers have to say on the topic. It seems logical that not eating until 3-4pm in the day, everyday (not intermitent fasting) would have a negative impact on metabolism but that could be all broscience for all I know. Personnaly, I know that if I don't start eating early in the day, I'd never get all my calories in as I don't like to eat big meals later in the day.
I do believe that I've read about correlation between being overweight and not eating breakfast. Not sure whether there is causation there or not.
I don't think there is any reason to believe that waiting until 3-4pm to eat would have a negative impact on your metabolism, especially if you are getting in enough calories for the day. You'd have to completely fast for at least a few days or be in a severe deficit over time to do any damage.
The breakfast-skippers in the study who gained weight didn't gain because they skipped breakfast. They gained because they ate too many calories. It wasn't a calorie controlled study. There could be something behavioral to consider there, as skipping breakfast might not be a strategy that works for everyone.0 -
If you don't eat breakfast, when do you eat pancakes? And bacon? Sounds like a horrible existence. ;-)
Any time you want! ... well, within reason. 0 -
I'd be interested to know what the broscience debunkers have to say on the topic. It seems logical that not eating until 3-4pm in the day, everyday (not intermitent fasting) would have a negative impact on metabolism but that could be all broscience for all I know. Personnaly, I know that if I don't start eating early in the day, I'd never get all my calories in as I don't like to eat big meals later in the day.
I do believe that I've read about correlation between being overweight and not eating breakfast. Not sure whether there is causation there or not.
Martin Berkham wrote on his site, Leangains, a post titled "Why Does Breakfast Make Me Hungry?". The entire article can be found here; http://www.leangains.com/2012/06/why-does-breakfast-make-me-hungry.html0 -
Hi I'm the same. I never used to eat breakfast and never had a weight problem (maybe a couple of pounds - no more). Then all the talk was that we must eat breakfast so I started, quite healthy stuff, either porridge, cereal, or wholemeal toast or poached egg etc. Lo and behold, I gradually started to gain weight that has stayed with me for years. Of course I was eating an extra meal a day when before I was maintaining my weight. I still eat breakfast sometimes, but only if I'm hungry in the morning. I now try to listen to my body and eat when I'm hungry. Not having breakfast does not lead me to snacking later, but eating breakfast definitely makes me hungry again by mid morning, and I find it more difficult to stick to my calorie allowance for the rest of that day as it seems to get my appetite and tastebuds going. Everyone is different, so I don't think the same rules apply to everyone.0
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I'd be interested to know what the broscience debunkers have to say on the topic. It seems logical that not eating until 3-4pm in the day, everyday (not intermitent fasting) would have a negative impact on metabolism but that could be all broscience for all I know.
Starting your first meal at 3 or 4pm is intermittent fasting.
Sorry,I thought IM was more something you did occassionally as in 1-2 days per week as opposed ot everyday. So I guess I was thinking of "occassional" IM. I'll do a little google research to get smarter on the topic so I don't derail this thread from the original topic. Thanks for pointing out my mistake.
Intermittent Fasting is almost as broad a term as "dieting". There are many different ways to do it, but the most popular are the Leangains approach (fasting daily for 14-16 hours), the Warrior Diet (eating one huge meal per day) and The 5:2 diet (only eating 500-600 calories 2 days per week).0 -
Breakfast does nothing for your metabolism, But it is important to eat in the morning for good brain function. Does not have to be alot. Only thing that changes metabolism is MOVING!!0
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Only thing that changes metabolism is MOVING!!
Also false. Eating more and increasing lean body mass increase your metabolic rate.0 -
Only thing that changes metabolism is MOVING!!
Also false. Eating more and increasing lean body mass increase your metabolic rate.
Moving is the only thing that increases metabolism in the short term.
Incerasing muscle mass and upping average caloric consumption can increase it in the long term.0 -
If you don't eat breakfast, when do you eat pancakes? And bacon? Sounds like a horrible existence. ;-)
Bacon is welcome at any meal :bigsmile:0 -
Everything I have read says more little meals seems to let your body release fat - I have no idea if it is true. What I can say is that I am older than most of you - and over the years I have skipped breakfast most of my life. My metabolism is crap and I work hard everyday to try to speed it up with cardio and weight training and the right macros and it is still crap. I am still looking into what else I can do to jumpstart it - but something caused this metabolic nightmare...0
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Breakfast does nothing for your metabolism, But it is important to eat in the morning for good brain function. Does not have to be alot. Only thing that changes metabolism is MOVING!!
Studies show significantly better brain function/learning and productivity amongst those who have breakfast.
That's why there are now program's in New Zealand to fund breakfast for students from poor communities.
Increasing protein at breakfast will reduce those earlier hunger pangs. Especially once your body gets used to having breakfast. Oh, and I you don't wake hungry, try reducing your evening consumption or eat dinner earlier.0 -
The whole 'breakfast is a must' thing is a myth. If you don't want to eat breakfast, then don't eat it I usually break my fast at 11am and that schedule works great for me.
Yup, eat when you're hungry.
Yesterday I had a huge breakfast (yummy chili), today I had a scoop of protein with my coffee. Listen to your body.0 -
If you don't eat breakfast, when do you eat pancakes? And bacon? Sounds like a horrible existence. ;-)
Bacon is welcome at any meal :bigsmile:
Brinner.
I have eggs and pancakes for dinner at LEAST 2-3 times a week. (Reason #495862 it's awesome being single)0 -
Breakfast does nothing for your metabolism, But it is important to eat in the morning for good brain function. Does not have to be alot. Only thing that changes metabolism is MOVING!!
Studies show significantly better brain function/learning and productivity amongst those who have breakfast.
That's why there are now program's in New Zealand to fund breakfast for students from poor communities.
Increasing protein at breakfast will reduce those earlier hunger pangs. Especially once your body gets used to having breakfast. Oh, and I you don't wake hungry, try reducing your evening consumption or eat dinner earlier.
I understand that you are coming from a place of encouragement, and that you know what you are talking about. However, I've tried all of that to make myself be hungry in the morning, and it just doesn't happen. Maybe if I skipped dinner entirely, but then I would just be hungry all night and either break down and eat in the middle of the night or just plain not sleep. That is purely from my experience. I still get up at the same time I did while I was in the military, which is 4:30 am. I don't drink coffee, usually just water and maybe tea, but I don't want to eat then. I'm also definitely at my most focused and productive before noon. I guess what I'm saying is, I get my nutrition. Usually, if you are foggy at any time of day it is because you are not sleeping well or are deficient in nutrients to begin with. Oh, and I'd appear to be a hypocrite if you read my food diary, because I've been eating breakfast lately. I'm just uber pregnant and I am hungry for breakfast at this point, so I eat me some breakfast!0 -
I an miserable it I don"t get a small breakfast. And I take it out on everybody! My teenager, however, can"t bear the though of breakfast and my hubby can go either way.
Everyone is different. Listen to your own body and it will tell you what it needs.0 -
If you don't eat breakfast, when do you eat pancakes? And bacon? Sounds like a horrible existence. ;-)
Bacon is welcome at any meal :bigsmile:
Yes to this
My current favorite meal is bacon with banana/egg pancakes-great for any time of day
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I have had the same problem. I would wake up every morning and eat a good healthy breakfast like I have been told to, even though I wasn't hungry. I found myself eating throughout the whole day. And badly too! I started to not eat breakfast. I got up and went to the gym instead! Then I'd come home in time to eat lunch. It allows for more calories if I did want to eat all through the day, which was my idea, but I find myself actually eating better!0
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I agree with most of the posters. Eat what you want when you want. I like to have a late breakfast for me at 8:30 or 9 am (I get up at 4 am) and I like to have 5 or 6 mini-meals during the day rather than 3 "normal" meals, including one just before I go to bed. This works great for me as I manage to never be really hungry. I get hungry about 3 hours after a meal, any meal, whether it was a 1200 calorie one or a 200 calorie. This works for me.
My little brother has, since he was quite small, wants to eat a huge meal when he wants to eat and then goes for hours even 24 hours, not hungry or interested in eating at all. This works for him and he is healthy and fit.
I don't care what the "studies" say. I'm doing great with what I'm doing now and would do no differently. No fasting for me! On the other hand I would never tell my brother to eat like I do because it's better or healthier. It's not, for him.0 -
Studies show significantly better brain function/learning and productivity amongst those who have breakfast.
That's why there are now program's in New Zealand to fund breakfast for students from poor communities.
Increasing protein at breakfast will reduce those earlier hunger pangs. Especially once your body gets used to having breakfast. Oh, and I you don't wake hungry, try reducing your evening consumption or eat dinner earlier.
There are also studies that show the complete opposite.0 -
Breakfast does nothing for your metabolism, But it is important to eat in the morning for good brain function. Does not have to be alot. Only thing that changes metabolism is MOVING!!
Studies show significantly better brain function/learning and productivity amongst those who have breakfast.
That's why there are now program's in New Zealand to fund breakfast for students from poor communities.
Increasing protein at breakfast will reduce those earlier hunger pangs. Especially once your body gets used to having breakfast. Oh, and I you don't wake hungry, try reducing your evening consumption or eat dinner earlier.
Do you have a link to the study? I'm going go go out on an limb and assume that the research was funded by some company who has a financial gain in the breakfast market. I could be completely wrong of course but I'm just more interested in seeing what they found. 0 -
People lose weight in a variety of ways, and every one has a montage of anecdotes and "studies" supporting.0
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As to the "must have breakfast" study. Yes, I think that if you are a kid who had very little to eat at night, or just junk food, and then had no breakfast, then I bet it would be very difficult to concentrate on schoolwork until you got something to eat. Generalizing that to the entire population is a bit of a stretch.0
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I have breakfast everyday, mid morning piece of fruit, lunch, more fruit mid afternoon and a good dinner in the evening. I wake hungry so need to eat before work.0
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I have to eat breakfast now because I workout in the morning and Im starving afterwards. I changed what I was eating and I seem to be able to go to lunchtime without snacking.0
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I haven't chowed down on breakfast for years. I do have a glass of soy milk however. I practise intermittent fasting, and find that if I listen to my body, and not the clock, that I eat less. I also find that, if I stop eating after 6pm, I also loose weight in the long run. Surprisingly, if my last meal was at 6pm, I often don't feel hungry when I awaken at 7am. I think that is very weird, but it seems to work for me.0
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Yeah I am ravenous the whole day and cant stop thinking about food even when eating at TDEE. Who knows, maybe it's a psychological thing. I'm sure technically, it's supposed to work for people, but some people are different. In my case I am a LOT less stressed and better able to handle life in general when I skip breakfast. Is it healthy? If you are eating enough and balancing your meals so you don't have too much sugar at once and you're getting good protein and fiber for lunch and supper, there's no reason why you should eat breakfast just because the TV and the general populous says you have to.
The hunger *could* be your metabolism firing up earlier in the day, which is a good thing. But if you know eating breakfast makes you tend to overeat the rest of the day like I do, I'd say just have coffee, without sugar, and with some sort of dairy free milk that has a little protein, like almond milk, and get enough nutrition and vitamins later in the day to make up for it. Don't feel weird just because you have to do things differently, it's good you discovered the connection between breakfast and hunger, some people never even try to understand the 'why's' of their hunger cues! 0
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