Eating breakfast is making me hungrier

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  • marciebrian
    marciebrian Posts: 853 Member
    Breakfast is the most important meal of the day...you are hungrier earlier cause your metabolism is getting in gear and your body wants more food. If you feel hungry before lunch have a snack like an apple and 1 tbsp. peanutbutter, a granola bar, cheese stick, When you eat more frequently, your bodys metabolism increases...If you skip breakfast, eventually your metabolism slows down and the amount you eat actually counts for a lot more cause your body is holding on to it ( starvation mode) and it will make losing weight a lot harder in the long run. Also, someone else mentioned the protein with your breakfast (eggs, peanut butter, cheese, etc), that definitely helps you not to be so hungry until the next meal. It takes a lot longer for your body to digest protein, then starch, fruits, and milk. I am always hungry 2 hours later if I just eat a bowl of cereal....so make sure to include the protein :)

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, THANKS FOR THE LAUGH.

    For the love of God, please tell me you aren't a real dietitian.

    agree! just absurd that skipping breakfast causes "starvation mode" where do people get this information???
  • Zilla100
    Zilla100 Posts: 139 Member
    What you eat for breakfast is important. If you load up on carbs first thing in the morning, then you'll be starving way before lunch. If you give yourself a balanced meal with protein, fresh fruits and veggies, and some complex carbs, then you should be fine.

    I've found this to be absolutely true. Greek yogurt and oatmeal is dense enough and takes long enough to digest that it keeps me full for hours. And sometimes I'll throw in a hardboiled egg too. :)
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,984 Member
    Breakfast does nothing for your metabolism, But it is important to eat in the morning for good brain function. Does not have to be alot. Only thing that changes metabolism is MOVING!!

    Studies show significantly better brain function/learning and productivity amongst those who have breakfast.
    That's why there are now program's in New Zealand to fund breakfast for students from poor communities.
    Increasing protein at breakfast will reduce those earlier hunger pangs. Especially once your body gets used to having breakfast. Oh, and I you don't wake hungry, try reducing your evening consumption or eat dinner earlier.
    I believe that it's more true for children than adults since children are still growing. I'd like to see a link to the study to check it out.

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,984 Member
    The whole 'breakfast is a must' thing is a myth. If you don't want to eat breakfast, then don't eat it :) I usually break my fast at 11am and that schedule works great for me.

    Nope! Sorry but it's not a myth. When you eat in the morning you are "breaking the fast" from going so many hours without eating all night. When you don't eat, your metabolism is in starvation mode, which is slow, sluggish, or stopped. NOT good.

    Eating breakfast starts up your metabolism again after fasting all night. Perhaps you are eating too many Carbs for breakfast and that's why you get hungry sooner. Drink a Protein shake instead. Those last me until AFTER it's lunch time.
    It's a myth. There's a reason why one weighs less after waking up from sleep compared to when they went to sleep.............metabolism was still working. It DOESN'T stop unless you're dead. I like to see it proven that one is alive after metabolism ceases. Heart beat and breathing are part of metabolism.
    And what if you eat at 11pm? Then eat again at 12pm? That's just over 12 hours and is NO DIFFERENT than a 6pm dinner and a 6am breakfast.
    Broscience doesn't work on this site.

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,984 Member
    What you eat for breakfast is important. If you load up on carbs first thing in the morning, then you'll be starving way before lunch. If you give yourself a balanced meal with protein, fresh fruits and veggies, and some complex carbs, then you should be fine. Almost every weight loss program that has proven results suggest that you eat every 2 to 3 hours to maintain your blood suger levels. That means you should plan to have a healthly snack between your major meals and you should stop eating at least 3 to 4 hours before bedtime.
    All weight loss programs have one thing in common...................calorie deficit. Proven that it works regardless of plan. And the 3-4 hours before bed? Lol what if you sleep at 8pm, you stop eating at 5pm? Funny. More broscience.

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,984 Member
    Breakfast is the most important meal of the day...you are hungrier earlier cause your metabolism is getting in gear and your body wants more food. If you feel hungry before lunch have a snack like an apple and 1 tbsp. peanutbutter, a granola bar, cheese stick, When you eat more frequently, your bodys metabolism increases...If you skip breakfast, eventually your metabolism slows down and the amount you eat actually counts for a lot more cause your body is holding on to it ( starvation mode) and it will make losing weight a lot harder in the long run. Also, someone else mentioned the protein with your breakfast (eggs, peanut butter, cheese, etc), that definitely helps you not to be so hungry until the next meal. It takes a lot longer for your body to digest protein, then starch, fruits, and milk. I am always hungry 2 hours later if I just eat a bowl of cereal....so make sure to include the protein :) Also, I do not agree eliminating food groups completely from the diet is healthy, like only eating protein and fat; this can pose a potential health problem with some people, especially with diabetes (potential kidney damage). Moderation is key and seeking out ALL food groups is most beneficial in the long run :)
    Who are you licensed through?

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  • Mrsfreedom41
    Mrsfreedom41 Posts: 330 Member
    I heard last week that you need to put some fuel in your body within 30 minutes of getting up. Didn't say how much or what, just feed your body something because your tummy has emptied out during your sleep and need a wake up call. I usually try to eat a banana or some other piece of fruit to get me going. BTW I get up between 6 and 7 and have breakfast usually around 9AM. I'm fine until lunch. Just thought I would pass this info. along.:drinker:
  • jwdieter
    jwdieter Posts: 2,582 Member
    Some light reading here: http://jn.nutrition.org/content/141/1/163.full
  • emtjmac
    emtjmac Posts: 1,320 Member
    Reading about breakfast making you hungrier is making me hungrier.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    Has the same effect on me, regardless of the composition of the breakfast (for each of high carb, high protein, and high fat). If I stick with it, it eventually levels out though.
  • mimisfat
    mimisfat Posts: 19 Member
    Try eating a high protein breakfast. I eat a 1 egg, 2 white omelet with vegetables and I stay full until lunch.
  • BeachIron
    BeachIron Posts: 6,490 Member
    I often skip breakfast when I'm losing weight as I can usually go until lunch time or so on just coffee. I'm not technically on IF as some friends are, but it helps me on some days. For me it's really just not eating if I'm not hungry.
  • jwdieter
    jwdieter Posts: 2,582 Member
    Skipping 1+ meals tends to make people hungrier in controlled studies. But maybe some people don't have that issue.
  • DietitianAprilDawn
    DietitianAprilDawn Posts: 14
    From experience, being a Registered Dietitian, I have seen MANY people that skip meals and staying under their estimated calorie limit and they ARE NOT losing weight AND from calorie standpoint they clearly should losing weight. The problem is the lack of frequency in eating throughout the day. When you eat more frequently FROM ALL food groups your body has to spend time breaking these foods down (fiber, proteins, carbs, fats, etc) which burns MORE calories and is essentially speeding up metabolism up! Breakfast revs up the metabolism in the morning by causing your digestive system to work and burn MORE calories. Who wouldn't want that?
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    From experience, being a Registered Dietitian, I have seen MANY people that skip meals and staying under their estimated calorie limit and they ARE NOT losing weight AND from calorie standpoint they clearly should losing weight. The problem is the lack of frequency in eating throughout the day. When you eat more frequently FROM ALL food groups your body has to spend time breaking these foods down (fiber, proteins, carbs, fats, etc) which burns MORE calories and is essentially speeding up metabolism up! Breakfast revs up the metabolism in the morning by causing your digestive system to work and burn MORE calories. Who wouldn't want that?

    The only problem I have with that logic is...

    ...that it is completely and thoroughly debunked by readily-available rock-solid peer-reviewed research.
  • AbsoluteNG
    AbsoluteNG Posts: 1,079 Member
    From experience, being a Registered Dietitian, I have seen MANY people that skip meals and staying under their estimated calorie limit and they ARE NOT losing weight AND from calorie standpoint they clearly should losing weight. The problem is the lack of frequency in eating throughout the day. When you eat more frequently FROM ALL food groups your body has to spend time breaking these foods down (fiber, proteins, carbs, fats, etc) which burns MORE calories and is essentially speeding up metabolism up! Breakfast revs up the metabolism in the morning by causing your digestive system to work and burn MORE calories. Who wouldn't want that?



    We have another Dietition, Texas Registered, who visits the forums once in a while to answer questions and he doesn't agree with your assessment. You can refer to the link below to his section but maybe you know something that he doesn't? Could you maybe describe what part of the metabolism revs up when you eat breakfast? Does eating breakfast somehow jump start Beta Oxidation or maybe you are referring to Thermogensis?


    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/13105-ask-the-dietitian


    Edit: After reading your statement one more time. I think you logic doesn't fit the scenario. The digestive system does require energy or calories to break down food to be used or stored as energy BUT the amount of calories that is required to digest the food is the same no matter if you eat 2k calories divided 5 times a day or 2k calories in one big meal. Is there any information that you have that would suggest that eating breakfast requires more energy to digest a calorie when compared to lunch?


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  • AbsoluteNG
    AbsoluteNG Posts: 1,079 Member
    Okay, I found some research to what you might be referring too. I don't have access to the entire paper, just the abstract. It's the Thermogenic Effect of Food or the negative calorie diet. Deals with research on how many calories your body requires to process food. From my understanding of the abstract and other references I found off of google, your body will use 10% of the food you eat as energy to digest whatever you eat. In other words, your body isn't going to use 200 calories to burn a stick of celery if the celery stick is only 10 calories. It's going to take 10% of the calories from the celery to digest food.


    Resting metabolic rate and thermogenic effect of food in vegetarian diets compared with Mediterranean diets.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10545669?dopt=Abstract
  • MinimalistShoeAddict
    MinimalistShoeAddict Posts: 1,946 Member
    The whole 'breakfast is a must' thing is a myth. If you don't want to eat breakfast, then don't eat it :) I usually break my fast at 11am and that schedule works great for me.

    I agree. Find a schedule that works for you. If your goal is weight loss, your calorie deficit will determine your results, not meal timing.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    From experience, being a Registered Dietitian, I have seen MANY people that skip meals and staying under their estimated calorie limit and they ARE NOT losing weight AND from calorie standpoint they clearly should losing weight. The problem is the lack of frequency in eating throughout the day. When you eat more frequently FROM ALL food groups your body has to spend time breaking these foods down (fiber, proteins, carbs, fats, etc) which burns MORE calories and is essentially speeding up metabolism up! Breakfast revs up the metabolism in the morning by causing your digestive system to work and burn MORE calories. Who wouldn't want that?

    Diet induced thermogenesis is determined by macronutrient composition and caloric intake. It's not a function of frequency and we have multiple studies supporting this.
  • DietitianAprilDawn
    DietitianAprilDawn Posts: 14
    That's okay if you all don't want to agree with me...I'm not here to argue. I enjoy helping people that's why I chose what I do in my career and I was just being kind and giving advice. I don't need to prove myself to anyone on here. If you don't agree with me that is perfectly fine, this is not a debate...do what you want I don't really care that's your choice.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    That's okay if you all don't want to agree with me...I'm not here to argue. I enjoy helping people that's why I chose what I do in my career and I was just being kind and giving advice. I don't need to prove myself to anyone on here. If you don't agree with me that is perfectly fine, this is not a debate...do what you want I don't really care that's your choice.

    I'm not here to argue with you either but it would certainly appear as though the majority of research points to your advice being incorrect and consequently you're advising people to potentially do things that are not necessary. This carries a risk of reducing dietary adherence in individuals who may not have a lifestyle or preferences that align well with frequent feedings.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9155494
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19943985
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11319656
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21410984
  • RobynLB83
    RobynLB83 Posts: 626 Member
    If you are eating something with sugar or a quick metabolizing carb, then it's probably stimulating hunger by bumping up your insulin and crashing you 2 hours later.
  • DietitianAprilDawn
    DietitianAprilDawn Posts: 14
    Clearly you want to argue bringing out the studies If I wanted I could go back and tell you about peer reviewed studies on the people that lost more weight that ate breakfast versus the ones that did not, but I am not wasting my time and energy no longer on this, like I said I have no reason to prove anything to anyone that is all.
    That's okay if you all don't want to agree with me...I'm not here to argue. I enjoy helping people that's why I chose what I do in my career and I was just being kind and giving advice. I don't need to prove myself to anyone on here. If you don't agree with me that is perfectly fine, this is not a debate...do what you want I don't really care that's your choice.

    I'm not here to argue with you either but it would certainly appear as though the majority of research points to your advice being incorrect and consequently you're advising people to potentially do things that are not necessary. This carries a risk of reducing dietary adherence in individuals who may not have a lifestyle or preferences that align well with frequent feedings.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9155494
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19943985
  • DietitianAprilDawn
    DietitianAprilDawn Posts: 14
    If you are eating something with sugar or a quick metabolizing carb, then it's probably stimulating hunger by bumping up your insulin and crashing you 2 hours later.

    very true!
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    Clearly you want to argue bringing out the studies If I wanted I could go back and tell you about peer reviewed studies on the people that lost more weight that ate breakfast versus the ones that did not, but I am not wasting my time and energy no longer on this, like I said I have no reason to prove anything to anyone that is all.
    That's okay if you all don't want to agree with me...I'm not here to argue. I enjoy helping people that's why I chose what I do in my career and I was just being kind and giving advice. I don't need to prove myself to anyone on here. If you don't agree with me that is perfectly fine, this is not a debate...do what you want I don't really care that's your choice.

    I'm not here to argue with you either but it would certainly appear as though the majority of research points to your advice being incorrect and consequently you're advising people to potentially do things that are not necessary. This carries a risk of reducing dietary adherence in individuals who may not have a lifestyle or preferences that align well with frequent feedings.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9155494
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19943985


    Actually, I don't want to argue, I just want to present information for the other readers so they can be properly informed. That is all.

    Have a great day and good luck with your fitness goals!
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    That's okay if you all don't want to agree with me...I'm not here to argue. I enjoy helping people that's why I chose what I do in my career and I was just being kind and giving advice. I don't need to prove myself to anyone on here. If you don't agree with me that is perfectly fine, this is not a debate...do what you want I don't really care that's your choice.

    The issue is, it's incorrect advice. If you are making statements that are contrary to others' who provide peer reviewed studies, it kind if is up to you to prove it.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Clearly you want to argue bringing out the studies If I wanted I could go back and tell you about peer reviewed studies on the people that lost more weight that ate breakfast versus the ones that did not, but I am not wasting my time and energy no longer on this, like I said I have no reason to prove anything to anyone that is all.

    And what you would find would be correlation not causation. The studies are based on ad lib eating - not the case here as the majority of people track their food.

    Edited to correct typo
  • AbsoluteNG
    AbsoluteNG Posts: 1,079 Member
    I know you 2 like to debate but I'm just not into that, I'm sorry... I have nothing to prove to you or him. Plenty of my clients are very successful with weight loss and have no complaints at all and that is all that matters to me.
    That's okay if you all don't want to agree with me...I'm not here to argue. I enjoy helping people that's why I chose what I do in my career and I was just being kind and giving advice. I don't need to prove myself to anyone on here. If you don't agree with me that is perfectly fine, this is not a debate...do what you want I don't really care that's your choice.

    The issue is, it's incorrect advice. If you are making statements that are contrary to others' who provide peer reviewed studies, it kind if is up to you to prove it.
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    You keep bringing up that you are a Dietitian as your argument, which I feel is being petty. If you really didn't care so much, you wouldn't be here saying that you are a dietitian in every reply. Since you care so much about your status, I posted a link and quote below from a Dietition who has said the exact opposite from you.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/938489-intermittent-fasting
    You can eat as often or as infrequent as you wish. Make your intermittent fasting strategy work for you.

    For example, I used this strategy last summer to cut 20 lbs. I skipped breakfast so I could eat more for lunch and dinner and I never felt deprived.

    At the end of the day, like all nutrition plans, it comes down to creating and maintaining a deficit in a way that is manageable in your life and something you can sustain forever.

    Edit: I'll agree with you that frequent meals a day does work but not because it speeds up the metabolism. It works because it makes your entire day revolve around food and constantly thinking and planning your next meal. It basically makes you more accountable for how many calories you eat but not because it "revs" up your metabolism.



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  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    I know you 2 like to debate but I'm just not into that, I'm sorry... I have nothing to prove to you or him. Plenty of my clients are very successful with weight loss and have no complaints at all and that is all that matters to me.
    That's okay if you all don't want to agree with me...I'm not here to argue. I enjoy helping people that's why I chose what I do in my career and I was just being kind and giving advice. I don't need to prove myself to anyone on here. If you don't agree with me that is perfectly fine, this is not a debate...do what you want I don't really care that's your choice.

    The issue is, it's incorrect advice. If you are making statements that are contrary to others' who provide peer reviewed studies, it kind if is up to you to prove it.
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    It's not that we like to debate, it's that we like to correct misinformation, especially that which can make something that is already hard for many people, namely losing weight, even harder, and unnecessarily so.

    ETA: don't bother PMing again me telling me to leave it ALONE because you don't like debating. It's pretty obvious why you don't like debating.
  • COLOMomOf4
    COLOMomOf4 Posts: 10 Member
    I'm sure several other have said this - but I haven't the time to read all of the responces. Eating breakfast always made me hungrier, too. It is because it is jump-starting your metabolism. That is thoretically a good thing unless it makes you so hungry that you splurge and it defeats the purpose (has happened to me many times). What helps me is eating a HIGH PROTEIN and/or HIGH FIBER breakfast. I have been using GNC's Total Lean 25 shake (powder) - giving me 25 gram of protein to jump start my day -and I'm usually not hungry again until lunch time.

    Also, avoid anything with sugar (even milk in your cereal is high in sugar). The sugar makes you hungrier quicker... protein & fiber keep you full longer.

    good luck!

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