HCG progress and updates - for people on it or thinking abou

Can someone send me the website for the drops?

I did great today- and then BAM~! I was driving my boss on some errands- and she offered me a mint. Without even blinking I popped it in my mouth, chewed it up and right as I swallowed it, I suddenly remembered that I am on a diet. Gulp!.

I really did not intend to stray even a morsel from the protocol, but it happened. I skipped my last melba toast- in hopes to balance out the error.

Also- I know according to Simeons protocol we can use vinegar, but is balsalmic vinegar acceptable? I hope so because I used it today on my lunch. I had green lettuce some diced onions with 3 oz of peeled shrimp and 6 strawberries. Is having onions on my salad cheating?

Thanks for any input- I look forward to hearing about everyones progress on the HCG journey!

well know side effects of HCG in women is Ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome. It says the ricks increases with each cycle. I think it might be time for me to rethink this diet.

FYI:
Ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome can be mild, moderate, or severe:
• Mild hyperstimulation causes enlargement of the ovaries and discomfort and fluid buildup in the abdomen.
• Moderate hyperstimulation causes additional symptoms including nausea, vomiting, and shortness of breath. This condition may require bed rest.
• Severe hyperstimulation can cause life-threatening fluid buildup around the heart and lungs and in the abdomen, and a drop in blood fluid content. This condition requires urgent medical care and hospitalization to prevent liver failure, stroke, or heart damage.

Those risks are for women that are using HCG for fertility treatments, NOT dieting................ For the diet part of it, we are using a very small amount compared to women that are actually pregnant or using HCG for fertility reasons.

I called my Dr and asked her about it and she told me if those were the risks, then every pregnant woman would end up sick and we all know that is not the case.

Thanks for the info. that is a relief. So any ideas what might be causing 2 TOMs a month and craping and spotting? I would really like to stick with it because I am losing but I hate have one a month much less two and I don't want damage my health by trying to get healthy.

at the end of the diet you have three weeks (called phase 3) where you are no longer taking injections (or some people take liquid drops under the tongue). During that three week period you can eat anything you want EXCEPT sugars and starches. This is the first stabilization period.

The diet is purported to normalize hypothalamus function so this stabilization is part of the process and cannot be ignored (I did this diet once before successfully but ignored the stabilization and hence I've gained it back).

After three weeks of eating that way and NOT gaining more than 2 pounds, you go into phase 4 (another 3 week stabilizing phase) where you can reintroduce starches and sugar into your diet. Again, this phase you should not see weight gains. If you do there are corrective measures to take.

If you haven't read the original document POUNDS AND INCHES by Dr. Simeon, you should. It will give you more information about how he discovered this program, how he developed it, the theory behind it, his practical experiences in treating thousands of patients, why 500 calories a day isn't really 500 calories a day and almost anything else clinically that you might want to know - at least at first.

http://www.hcgdietinfo.com/Dr-ATW-Simeons-Pounds-and-Inches.htm

weird.
so when it says "reply"we're not actually replying to that specific comment then?


ok. well then.

If you want to do that hit "quote" not "reply".

well know side effects of HCG in women is Ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome. It says the ricks increases with each cycle. I think it might be time for me to rethink this diet.

FYI:
Ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome can be mild, moderate, or severe:
• Mild hyperstimulation causes enlargement of the ovaries and discomfort and fluid buildup in the abdomen.
• Moderate hyperstimulation causes additional symptoms including nausea, vomiting, and shortness of breath. This condition may require bed rest.
• Severe hyperstimulation can cause life-threatening fluid buildup around the heart and lungs and in the abdomen, and a drop in blood fluid content. This condition requires urgent medical care and hospitalization to prevent liver failure, stroke, or heart damage.

Those risks are for women that are using HCG for fertility treatments, NOT dieting................ For the diet part of it, we are using a very small amount compared to women that are actually pregnant or using HCG for fertility reasons.

I called my Dr and asked her about it and she told me if those were the risks, then every pregnant woman would end up sick and we all know that is not the case.

Thanks for the info. that is a relief. So any ideas what might be causing 2 TOMs a month and craping and spotting? I would really like to stick with it because I am losing but I hate have one a month much less two and I don't want damage my health by trying to get healthy.

My doctor told me the wonky cycles come from your hormones lining out. Once your body normalizes, it will come as it is supposed to.

This is one of those, "your gonna have to bear with it" things.

So I've read all 14 pages of the forum because I have an appointment tomorrow at a medical weight loss clinic. I will be doing the Hcg shots every day myself, with doctor supervision every week. Their protocol is a little different from Simeon's, according to their recipes where they allow things like wraps instead of melba bread, (though the wraps have to be a certain weight and less than so many calories and fats, etc.). Also, I just took my last dose of Depo last tuesday, but I have read a few other sites who say that it is okay to use the Hcg while on Depo, you just lose a little slower than those on oral contraceptives.

Not sure if that's true, but I'll find out tomorrow morning when I go in.

I have to admit I was surprised to see such a forum here on MFP, because most of the people are so gung ho on doing it the "all natural" way with just low cal in moderation and exercise. It's nice knowing I still can get support from my fave website while doing something a little different. My doctor is the one who recommended the clinic to me, and of course they have a ton of success stories/pics. They are here in FL and in OK.

I've struggled with weight all of my life, and there are psychological things behind the weight gain as well. So I'm excited to get some medical help while I'm getting mental help (in therapy, positive hypnosis and visualizations, etc), and I just moved out of my parents house for the first time ever (I'm 23) in with roommates who are a great support group. I've got someone who'll give me hugs, someone who will kick my *kitten* if I fall off, and someone who will just listen.

I'm hoping all of my ducks are finally in a row... I need to lose 160 pounds so I'll be on this protocol for a while (and it's expensive), I know. but I'm encouraged by all the success stories here! More so than the ones on the clinic's website (though there are a LOT of pictures of people, having lost anywhere from 10 to 130 pounds!).

I'm in my last year of college and going into internships to become a middle or high school English teacher. One of the things that really kicked me into gear about getting serious about losing was remembering how much kids made fun of over weight teachers and those with health problems. I had nightmares of kids repeating everything I've ever heard throughout my life, only now I was an adult and still couldn't do anything about it, and they didn't respect me and my classroom was insane with problems... etc.

So cross your fingers for me and my appointment tomorrow! I'm really hoping the clinic doesn't have me wait 3 months until I'm off depo (switching to oral because of the other side effects of the shots which are bad like leeching vitamin D and Calcium from bones, hunger and weight gain. -_- I've gained 40 pounds since I've been on Depo.). But I figure even if they do make me wait, knowing it's coming will be good.

So I've read all 14 pages of the forum because I have an appointment tomorrow at a medical weight loss clinic. I will be doing the Hcg shots every day myself, with doctor supervision every week. Their protocol is a little different from Simeon's, according to their recipes where they allow things like wraps instead of melba bread, (though the wraps have to be a certain weight and less than so many calories and fats, etc.). Also, I just took my last dose of Depo last tuesday, but I have read a few other sites who say that it is okay to use the Hcg while on Depo, you just lose a little slower than those on oral contraceptives.

Not sure if that's true, but I'll find out tomorrow morning when I go in.

I have to admit I was surprised to see such a forum here on MFP, because most of the people are so gung ho on doing it the "all natural" way with just low cal in moderation and exercise. It's nice knowing I still can get support from my fave website while doing something a little different. My doctor is the one who recommended the clinic to me, and of course they have a ton of success stories/pics. They are here in FL and in OK.

I've struggled with weight all of my life, and there are psychological things behind the weight gain as well. So I'm excited to get some medical help while I'm getting mental help (in therapy, positive hypnosis and visualizations, etc), and I just moved out of my parents house for the first time ever (I'm 23) in with roommates who are a great support group. I've got someone who'll give me hugs, someone who will kick my *kitten* if I fall off, and someone who will just listen.

I'm hoping all of my ducks are finally in a row... I need to lose 160 pounds so I'll be on this protocol for a while (and it's expensive), I know. but I'm encouraged by all the success stories here! More so than the ones on the clinic's website (though there are a LOT of pictures of people, having lost anywhere from 10 to 130 pounds!).

I'm in my last year of college and going into internships to become a middle or high school English teacher. One of the things that really kicked me into gear about getting serious about losing was remembering how much kids made fun of over weight teachers and those with health problems. I had nightmares of kids repeating everything I've ever heard throughout my life, only now I was an adult and still couldn't do anything about it, and they didn't respect me and my classroom was insane with problems... etc.

So cross your fingers for me and my appointment tomorrow! I'm really hoping the clinic doesn't have me wait 3 months until I'm off depo (switching to oral because of the other side effects of the shots which are bad like leeching vitamin D and Calcium from bones, hunger and weight gain. -_- I've gained 40 pounds since I've been on Depo.). But I figure even if they do make me wait, knowing it's coming will be good.

Hi there!!! Good luck at the clinic...............

There is a small group of us that support each other here, but there is a large group that will bash you into a mud slick on the street also. I just got harassed deeply.

That is one of the things I like about this plan. You are eating all natural and very clean. So much so that when you finish the plan you won't want to eat the crap again.............

:happy: LOL Lioness - you must mean the calorie police. Everyone just really needs to do what is right for that individual person. Believe me, I've done some off protocol stuff that would make me persona non grata on some of the hcg boards, but those things work for me.
Our best defense will be a year from now when we've met our goals and are maintaining - no longer slaves of the junk we thought we were consuming, but was actually consuming us.

I found this great treat which seems to be within protocol guidelines. They are snack sticks made with ostrich and beef. Yes, I know ostrich is not in P&I, but it probably would have been if it had been readily available at that time. All protein, really tasty. They make a great lunch on the go - or a snack if you have less than your alotted protein at a meal.

Stick with it guys.

I'm still nervous about my health on it so its the seeing a doctor everyweek that adds up. Maybe after the first round and I know what to expect I can move to mixing it myself or drops.

Thanks for the support I'll post back later with more details. Now to see if I can sleep with all this excitement/nerves