HCG progress and updates - for people on it or thinking abou

well know side effects of HCG in women is Ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome. It says the ricks increases with each cycle. I think it might be time for me to rethink this diet.

FYI:
Ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome can be mild, moderate, or severe:
• Mild hyperstimulation causes enlargement of the ovaries and discomfort and fluid buildup in the abdomen.
• Moderate hyperstimulation causes additional symptoms including nausea, vomiting, and shortness of breath. This condition may require bed rest.
• Severe hyperstimulation can cause life-threatening fluid buildup around the heart and lungs and in the abdomen, and a drop in blood fluid content. This condition requires urgent medical care and hospitalization to prevent liver failure, stroke, or heart damage.

Those risks are for women that are using HCG for fertility treatments, NOT dieting................ For the diet part of it, we are using a very small amount compared to women that are actually pregnant or using HCG for fertility reasons.

I called my Dr and asked her about it and she told me if those were the risks, then every pregnant woman would end up sick and we all know that is not the case.

Thanks for the info. that is a relief. So any ideas what might be causing 2 TOMs a month and craping and spotting? I would really like to stick with it because I am losing but I hate have one a month much less two and I don't want damage my health by trying to get healthy.

My doctor told me the wonky cycles come from your hormones lining out. Once your body normalizes, it will come as it is supposed to.

This is one of those, "your gonna have to bear with it" things.

So I've read all 14 pages of the forum because I have an appointment tomorrow at a medical weight loss clinic. I will be doing the Hcg shots every day myself, with doctor supervision every week. Their protocol is a little different from Simeon's, according to their recipes where they allow things like wraps instead of melba bread, (though the wraps have to be a certain weight and less than so many calories and fats, etc.). Also, I just took my last dose of Depo last tuesday, but I have read a few other sites who say that it is okay to use the Hcg while on Depo, you just lose a little slower than those on oral contraceptives.

Not sure if that's true, but I'll find out tomorrow morning when I go in.

I have to admit I was surprised to see such a forum here on MFP, because most of the people are so gung ho on doing it the "all natural" way with just low cal in moderation and exercise. It's nice knowing I still can get support from my fave website while doing something a little different. My doctor is the one who recommended the clinic to me, and of course they have a ton of success stories/pics. They are here in FL and in OK.

I've struggled with weight all of my life, and there are psychological things behind the weight gain as well. So I'm excited to get some medical help while I'm getting mental help (in therapy, positive hypnosis and visualizations, etc), and I just moved out of my parents house for the first time ever (I'm 23) in with roommates who are a great support group. I've got someone who'll give me hugs, someone who will kick my *kitten* if I fall off, and someone who will just listen.

I'm hoping all of my ducks are finally in a row... I need to lose 160 pounds so I'll be on this protocol for a while (and it's expensive), I know. but I'm encouraged by all the success stories here! More so than the ones on the clinic's website (though there are a LOT of pictures of people, having lost anywhere from 10 to 130 pounds!).

I'm in my last year of college and going into internships to become a middle or high school English teacher. One of the things that really kicked me into gear about getting serious about losing was remembering how much kids made fun of over weight teachers and those with health problems. I had nightmares of kids repeating everything I've ever heard throughout my life, only now I was an adult and still couldn't do anything about it, and they didn't respect me and my classroom was insane with problems... etc.

So cross your fingers for me and my appointment tomorrow! I'm really hoping the clinic doesn't have me wait 3 months until I'm off depo (switching to oral because of the other side effects of the shots which are bad like leeching vitamin D and Calcium from bones, hunger and weight gain. -_- I've gained 40 pounds since I've been on Depo.). But I figure even if they do make me wait, knowing it's coming will be good.

So I've read all 14 pages of the forum because I have an appointment tomorrow at a medical weight loss clinic. I will be doing the Hcg shots every day myself, with doctor supervision every week. Their protocol is a little different from Simeon's, according to their recipes where they allow things like wraps instead of melba bread, (though the wraps have to be a certain weight and less than so many calories and fats, etc.). Also, I just took my last dose of Depo last tuesday, but I have read a few other sites who say that it is okay to use the Hcg while on Depo, you just lose a little slower than those on oral contraceptives.

Not sure if that's true, but I'll find out tomorrow morning when I go in.

I have to admit I was surprised to see such a forum here on MFP, because most of the people are so gung ho on doing it the "all natural" way with just low cal in moderation and exercise. It's nice knowing I still can get support from my fave website while doing something a little different. My doctor is the one who recommended the clinic to me, and of course they have a ton of success stories/pics. They are here in FL and in OK.

I've struggled with weight all of my life, and there are psychological things behind the weight gain as well. So I'm excited to get some medical help while I'm getting mental help (in therapy, positive hypnosis and visualizations, etc), and I just moved out of my parents house for the first time ever (I'm 23) in with roommates who are a great support group. I've got someone who'll give me hugs, someone who will kick my *kitten* if I fall off, and someone who will just listen.

I'm hoping all of my ducks are finally in a row... I need to lose 160 pounds so I'll be on this protocol for a while (and it's expensive), I know. but I'm encouraged by all the success stories here! More so than the ones on the clinic's website (though there are a LOT of pictures of people, having lost anywhere from 10 to 130 pounds!).

I'm in my last year of college and going into internships to become a middle or high school English teacher. One of the things that really kicked me into gear about getting serious about losing was remembering how much kids made fun of over weight teachers and those with health problems. I had nightmares of kids repeating everything I've ever heard throughout my life, only now I was an adult and still couldn't do anything about it, and they didn't respect me and my classroom was insane with problems... etc.

So cross your fingers for me and my appointment tomorrow! I'm really hoping the clinic doesn't have me wait 3 months until I'm off depo (switching to oral because of the other side effects of the shots which are bad like leeching vitamin D and Calcium from bones, hunger and weight gain. -_- I've gained 40 pounds since I've been on Depo.). But I figure even if they do make me wait, knowing it's coming will be good.

Hi there!!! Good luck at the clinic...............

There is a small group of us that support each other here, but there is a large group that will bash you into a mud slick on the street also. I just got harassed deeply.

That is one of the things I like about this plan. You are eating all natural and very clean. So much so that when you finish the plan you won't want to eat the crap again.............

:happy: LOL Lioness - you must mean the calorie police. Everyone just really needs to do what is right for that individual person. Believe me, I've done some off protocol stuff that would make me persona non grata on some of the hcg boards, but those things work for me.
Our best defense will be a year from now when we've met our goals and are maintaining - no longer slaves of the junk we thought we were consuming, but was actually consuming us.

I found this great treat which seems to be within protocol guidelines. They are snack sticks made with ostrich and beef. Yes, I know ostrich is not in P&I, but it probably would have been if it had been readily available at that time. All protein, really tasty. They make a great lunch on the go - or a snack if you have less than your alotted protein at a meal.

Stick with it guys.

I'm still nervous about my health on it so its the seeing a doctor everyweek that adds up. Maybe after the first round and I know what to expect I can move to mixing it myself or drops.

Thanks for the support I'll post back later with more details. Now to see if I can sleep with all this excitement/nerves

@lioness
sorry to hear you've been berated for following this protocol and having success. SCREW EM. :drinker:

@amanda
This is a journey you will not soon forget. You will learn so much about yourself and your entire relationship with food will change. It's really quite an amazing plan that (IMO) addresses not only the obvious (helps you lose weight) but also, if done right, forces you to confront and conquer your entire ideas and food and where and how it fits into your life. You will stop having cravings (which NO diet I've ever done has been able to do). I went out to dinner with some friends about a week or so ago. They knew I was dieting but didn't know I was HCG. They were all concerned about "tempting" me. Hilarious. I was not tempted to eat the bread. Not tempted to eat the "salad". Not tempted to eat the mashed potatoes. Not tempted to eat the apple crisp I INSISTED they go ahead and order, since they wanted it. I ate a filet minon and drank probably 40 ounces of iced tea. My husband, who is NOT doing HCG just gets a kick out of how other people think they will tempt me by eating regualr foods because he knows I couldn't care less. And I've only been on the diet for 14 days.
Congratulations on the beginning of an extraordinary journey!

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My report: 14 VLCD days and 10 pounds down (including that pesky little TOM interruption). ONWARD!!!!

Amanda, good luck today. Come and post to let us know how it goes.
Traci, you have a good plan. Yea for the steak day! When you go to the wedding, watch out for the proteins and the veggies, too. Many caterers drown the veggies in butter or oil. You could be consuming more fat than you would in a burger if you ate them. Even the 'grilled" veggies have lots of oil on them. Same with the proteins. If they have a carving station, that will be your best bet. Even better, if this is a sit down dinner, the caterer can accommodate you with a special meal - is there a way to contact the bride and find out if they can do something steamed without butter or oil? If not, load up a plate of crudites during the cocktail hour and keep if during the meal. This way you can munch as others chow down.
Gorgeous1, I strive to get to where you are regarding food. I can be good when I'm out with friends or my kids, but when my husband and I start talking about a cheat meal, well I have little will power.
Saturday night we came close to a cheat meal, but I made our dinner anyway. Yesterday was different. Neither of us had the will power and I consumed a slice of pizza (so yummy) and some white meat KFC and potato wedges.
Then, I had a huge asthma/allergy attack. That just proves to me how toxic this stuff is to my body. I think it takes a lot of little failures to lead me to success. Hopefully next time we talk about a cheat meal, I'll remember how I couldn't breathe and just say no.
Needless to say, the scale is up today. I'm going to work out and stick to protocol. Hopefully this will not be a huge setback.

Lioness, good going on figuring out what was wrong. I hope this works better for you. And I know exactly what you mean about having different views. If you are not on board with the mainstream - 1,200 calorie a day min with adequate carbs then whatever you say just gets pounced on. I've learned the hard way just not to respond to the posts about calories or protein or calorie intake.

Well I'm back from my appointment. The protocol IS different from the original Simeon's. First off, 800-875 calories a day, not 500. Appitite suppressants for the first few days until the body gets used to ketosis, and no loading days (Boo?). Still sort of the same diet plan other than more calories and much more allowed foods. It seems a little more realistic to me, at least for me (Because of course everyone is entitled to their own ideas and opinions and healthy weight loss).

It is prescription strength natural HCG (taken from pregnant ladies urine... ick) which I have to mix myself and then fill the needles, etc. Not a big deal. And they've got chromium, calcium and a multi vitamin supplement as well.

I'm allowed to do some light excersize; walking the dog, light swimming, etc.

Breakfast today: 1 slice whole wheat toast, one orange and 4 oz skim milk.

Now to load up on water so I can not feel starving!

Well I'm back from my appointment. The protocol IS different from the original Simeon's. First off, 800-875 calories a day, not 500. Appitite suppressants for the first few days until the body gets used to ketosis, and no loading days (Boo?). Still sort of the same diet plan other than more calories and much more allowed foods. It seems a little more realistic to me, at least for me (Because of course everyone is entitled to their own ideas and opinions and healthy weight loss).

It is prescription strength natural HCG (taken from pregnant ladies urine... ick) which I have to mix myself and then fill the needles, etc. Not a big deal. And they've got chromium, calcium and a multi vitamin supplement as well.

I'm allowed to do some light excersize; walking the dog, light swimming, etc.

Breakfast today: 1 slice whole wheat toast, one orange and 4 oz skim milk.

Now to load up on water so I can not feel starving!

Good luck!!!

I think my next round is going to be injections from my Naturopathic Doctor!!

F I N A L R E S U L T S ! ! ! ! ! !

Round 1's Phase 2 is in the books and here are my results:

Simeons HCG Protocol
Starting weight: 242.4 lbs
Week 1 results: 229.2 lbs (13.2 lbs lost)
Week 2 results: 225.0 lbs (4.2 lbs lost, 17.4 lbs overall)
Week 3 results: 219.4 lbs (5.6 lbs lost, 23.0 lbs overall)
Week 4 results: 212.8 lbs (6.6 lbs lost, 29.6 lbs overall)
End of Phase 2 results: 209.2 lbs (3.6 lbs lost, 33.2 lbs overall)

Wow, Fantastic!!!

Way to go!! Now go stabilize in Phase 3!!! :laugh: :laugh:

Hello All,

Lionesss, Sorry you had to start over, but your experience was a good lesson for the rest of us. I am no longer leaving my HCG in a dark spot in my living room near the laptop. Look at the bright side, you got two more loading days out of the deal!!!:laugh: :laugh:

Amanda, Good luck to you. Whatever works is the right plan for you to be on!!

There was a HCG-bashing thread active on the boards last night and after reading all the self-righteous know-nothings pontificate, I wisely decided there was no point in getting into a battle of wits with unarmed people!! So I said nothing.:drinker:

As for me, I attended our county fair yesterday. I was hoping they had a booth at the entrance for dieter's to have their jaws wired shut:noway: :laugh: :laugh: But, no luck.:ohwell: However, all was not lost. The friend I was with wanted to walk all the food options before deciding what she would have. She is not a dieter, but eats pretty healthy. We ran across a booth operated by a local Greek restaurant, and to my amazement, they had a made to order SALAD, with cukes, tomotoes, lots of greens, onions, and some feta on top. I ordered my dressing on the side, and it turned out well. I figured it would be less filling than the gyros my friend ordered, and no carby gyros wrap. So after the salad is when I made a conscious decision to be "naughty"--a piece of homemade sugar-free peach pie from a local religious group--VERY good.

Best news of all, got on the scale today and I DIDN'T GAIN--didn't lose either, but that didn't surprise me.

Keep up the fight everyone.

EDIT: PS--Congrats Rob on your success!!:drinker: :drinker:

Hey Gorgeous1, it is not only because of doing the HCG plan that I am berated. Most of it comes from the fact that I am trying to remove all the unnecessary chemicals from our eating and yes I will tell anyone, NO you don't need to eat that or drink that and then give an explanation as to why I feel the way I do... Most of the harassment on this site comes from the fact that I do a low carb plan (before and after HCG)



Any whoooo................To my HCG girls..............my HCG was ruined by placing it near electromagnetic stuff. That is why I was so hungry!! I re-loaded this weekend and starting over. Lesson learned and money wasted........

Loaded this weekend and VLCD1 all over again.

Yeah. People just don't want to hear that sort of thing mostly. And when they're "depriving themselves" anyway, they definitely don't want to hear about how they might do better to stop eating "Snack Wells" cookies and "Crystal Light". I guess I can understand it. To each his/her own. The fact is that food is noting more than a sophisticated chemical reaction. The better "stuff" you put in, the better. You can run your "car" on almost anything. But that doesn't mean your car will last very long or work very well while you drive it. Then there's the fact that our taste buds are so obliterated by fake foods and flavors. I had a japanese girlfriend who tasted a slice of regular bread in the USA and said it was super salty. We can't even taste the natural flavors of food anymore because we're so used to fake flavorings and MSG and bumped up, blown out super-flavors that a regular piece of the best meat in the world tastes "bland" to us with 68 rubbed-in encrusted spices all over it. We can't eat a piece of lobster without "drawn butter". And forget about vegetables!
Oh well. To each his/her own. :flowerforyou:

Congrats Rob! You had a great round. Are you planning on doing another?

I'm gonna go find that hcg bashing thread. I've read them before and it's amazing how many people judge something they know nothing about.

Hi, I am on Slim Fast for 2 wks now I'm loosing weight (6 lbs ) but I am really hungry all day. Where can I ge HCG drops??
Please help!!!

Hi, I am on Slim Fast for 2 wks now I'm loosing weight (6 lbs ) but I am really hungry all day. Where can I ge HCG drops??
Please help!!!

You can't add HCG to Slimfast and think you are on the Simeon's protocol. I suggest you do a google search and locate a copy of the "Pounds and Inches," in order to learn what the plan is all about. It is available from numerouse locations at no charge.

BTW, regardless of whatever else you do, get rid of the Slimfast. It is loaded with chemicals and too low in protein and too high in sugar to be a good option.