Serious Question for MILFS (pics)

Some of these posts about kids being "runners" annoy me. I was a runner. Once. One time. After the spanking I got I made sure to never, ever, let go of my moms hand again. I'm not advocating spanking, heck, I don't even believe in it most of the time, but my question is how are these parents enforcing hand holding and staying close? This wasn't really an issue when I was a kid.

I remember going on family vacation with my extended family and friends when I was about 5. One of the boys (5 or 6) wandered off and when his parents found him they bought one of those backpack leash things and put it on him as punishment. That's how they were viewed in my circle, as a joke or punishment. Something had to be wrong with you if you need one of those. I know times have changed, and to each his own, but I know I wouldn't be able to use one of those on my kid. I would view it as a demeaning punishment and a failure on my part as a parent. *** I AM NOT SAYING THOSE WHO USE THEM ARE FAILURES OR ARE BAD PARENTS. That's just my 2 cents and personal point of view.

I was led to believe I'd find lots of pictures of MILFs here.

I only use it in certain situations I.e. when going to the zoo by myself because I have a 10 month old that is either in the stroller or in a front carrier and it makes it hard to catch the 2 year old without either having to leave the baby behind in the stroller or running in the carrier which is cumbersome. However, if my husband and/or my older two kids are with me we don't use it because we have enough hands to keep up with her.
I never used one with my older two children but they were 4 1/2 years apart not 16 months like these two and to be honest with you when they were little I thought it was awful. How could people do that? Well I have learned not to judge because you may not understand something.
Last thought I would probably exhaust all efforts before putting it on. Such as I will tell her to walk by me if she even goes a little ahead I either put her back in the stroller, make her hold my hand or ask her to help me push her brother in the stroller if she can't stay by me, one of those options usually work. Besides they have to learn at some point to stay by your side.
Oh and the harness we have looks like a fuzzy bear backpack and can also hold small items inside like juice box, cars, ect. And you can take the tail off if you want to give them a chance without it. Honestly it is nice to have an extra place to put a couple of there items
Good luck

I never used one, but the youngest BOLTED everywhere no matter how severe we were with him. I could see slapping one on him in that case. I probably wouldn't use it long term but I'd rather see a kid leashed then hit by a car. I think feeding kids nasty high fructose corn syrup and toaster pastries is worse then these harnesses.

Some of these posts about kids being "runners" annoy me. I was a runner. Once. One time. After the spanking I got I made sure to never, ever, let go of my moms hand again. I'm not advocating spanking, heck, I don't even believe in it most of the time, but my question is how are these parents enforcing hand holding and staying close? This wasn't really an issue when I was a kid.

I remember going on family vacation with my extended family and friends when I was about 5. One of the boys (5 or 6) wandered off and when his parents found him they bought one of those backpack leash things and put it on him as punishment. That's how they were viewed in my circle, as a joke or punishment. Something had to be wrong with you if you need one of those. I know times have changed, and to each his own, but I know I wouldn't be able to use one of those on my kid. I would view it as a demeaning punishment and a failure on my part as a parent. *** I AM NOT SAYING THOSE WHO USE THEM ARE FAILURES OR ARE BAD PARENTS. That's just my 2 cents and personal point of view.

If you were old enough to remember the spanking you got from running off, you were probably a few years older than most of the kids parents are referencing in this thread that they are using reins for. I can see how using a rein at age 5 might be seen as a punishment, most 5 year olds can retain basic rules and he didn't just bolt like a toddler does, he wandered off according to your post. There's a big difference developmentally between a 1-4 year old and a 5-7 year old and a big difference between a 1-4 year old bolting or wandering and a 5-7 year old wandering off.

Toddlers - ages 1-4 - don't get danger, especially at the younger age range. They want to run and see whatever, and they bolt - in like the time it takes you to switch the hand you are holding, they have like a 3 second attention span. If you have other kids, you're probably also carrying at least 1 diaper bag, pushing a stroller and/or holding another child - it's impossible to react fast enough to grab your 2 year old from running in front of a car or disappearing into a crowd. My son was running at 10 months old. He refused to be carried as soon as he could crawl. Of course I taught him not to take off and appropriately addressed his behavior when he did but toddlers just don't retain things like an older 4 year old or 5 year old does. The majority of time I used a rein it was more about keeping him from getting separated in large crowds - some adults don't watch where they're walking and have literally walked right into my son's and my arms as we were holding hands knocking him over or separating him from me - or if we were walking near traffic, not kid friendly places like the park. Most parents realize it only takes 2 seconds for a small child to disappear or get seriously hurt because toddlers (the age the OP and most posters are referring to) don't get that cars are in the street and will hit them if they run in front of one or that mommy and daddy don't magically come with them everywhere when they run off to see whatever while mommy is cleaning up baby sister's spit up. It's not about punishment or failure, it's about realizing it's impossible to watch your kid every single second, knowing your own child's personality and limitations and keeping them safe in an effective way until they are old enough to think a little bit before they act.

Some of these posts about kids being "runners" annoy me. I was a runner. Once. One time. After the spanking I got I made sure to never, ever, let go of my moms hand again. I'm not advocating spanking, heck, I don't even believe in it most of the time, but my question is how are these parents enforcing hand holding and staying close? This wasn't really an issue when I was a kid.

I remember going on family vacation with my extended family and friends when I was about 5. One of the boys (5 or 6) wandered off and when his parents found him they bought one of those backpack leash things and put it on him as punishment. That's how they were viewed in my circle, as a joke or punishment. Something had to be wrong with you if you need one of those. I know times have changed, and to each his own, but I know I wouldn't be able to use one of those on my kid. I would view it as a demeaning punishment and a failure on my part as a parent. *** I AM NOT SAYING THOSE WHO USE THEM ARE FAILURES OR ARE BAD PARENTS. That's just my 2 cents and personal point of view.

Your post annoys me. Do you even have kids? :laugh:

Some of these posts about kids being "runners" annoy me. I was a runner. Once. One time. After the spanking I got I made sure to never, ever, let go of my moms hand again. I'm not advocating spanking, heck, I don't even believe in it most of the time, but my question is how are these parents enforcing hand holding and staying close? This wasn't really an issue when I was a kid.

I remember going on family vacation with my extended family and friends when I was about 5. One of the boys (5 or 6) wandered off and when his parents found him they bought one of those backpack leash things and put it on him as punishment. That's how they were viewed in my circle, as a joke or punishment. Something had to be wrong with you if you need one of those. I know times have changed, and to each his own, but I know I wouldn't be able to use one of those on my kid. I would view it as a demeaning punishment and a failure on my part as a parent. *** I AM NOT SAYING THOSE WHO USE THEM ARE FAILURES OR ARE BAD PARENTS. That's just my 2 cents and personal point of view.

If you were old enough to remember the spanking you got from running off, you were probably a few years older than most of the kids parents are referencing in this thread that they are using reins for. I can see how using a rein at age 5 might be seen as a punishment, most 5 year olds can retain basic rules and he didn't just bolt like a toddler does, he wandered off according to your post. There's a big difference developmentally between a 1-4 year old and a 5-7 year old and a big difference between a 1-4 year old bolting or wandering and a 5-7 year old wandering off.

Toddlers - ages 1-4 - don't get danger, especially at the younger age range. They want to run and see whatever, and they bolt - in like the time it takes you to switch the hand you are holding, they have like a 3 second attention span. If you have other kids, you're probably also carrying at least 1 diaper bag, pushing a stroller and/or holding another child - it's impossible to react fast enough to grab your 2 year old from running in front of a car or disappearing into a crowd. My son was running at 10 months old. He refused to be carried as soon as he could crawl. Of course I taught him not to take off and appropriately addressed his behavior when he did but toddlers just don't retain things like an older 4 year old or 5 year old does. The majority of time I used a rein it was more about keeping him from getting separated in large crowds - some adults don't watch where they're walking and have literally walked right into my son's and my arms as we were holding hands knocking him over or separating him from me - or if we were walking near traffic, not kid friendly places like the park. Most parents realize it only takes 2 seconds for a small child to disappear or get seriously hurt because toddlers (the age the OP and most posters are referring to) don't get that cars are in the street and will hit them if they run in front of one or that mommy and daddy don't magically come with them everywhere when they run off to see whatever while mommy is cleaning up baby sister's spit up. It's not about punishment or failure, it's about realizing it's impossible to watch your kid every single second, knowing your own child's personality and limitations and keeping them safe in an effective way until they are old enough to think a little bit before they act.

It's true, most of these kids are a little bit younger, and of course developmentally there are going to be differences. I could see how crowds would pose a big threat too. I can't imagine the panic of losing your child in a crowded/strange place (I live in a small town). Thanks for the insight.

eta: BTW, I have 2 children. I strive to be a MILF :bigsmile:

Well don't take this wrong but from the pictures I think you are doing just fine. :blushing: