I don't eat clean. I won't eat clean. It's a stupid concept.
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I try to eat clean, but sometimes the bread gets soggy. :sad:
ROFL!!!
I think a wrap might hold up better, but I haven't tried it yet :laugh:0 -
To the OP:
If you are going to piss and moan about something then at least provide facts to backup your statement, considering you used your approach to state that others were wrong. Devoid of source material and due to your holier than thou attitude, your argument is invalid and should just be ignored. I think I'll take my own advice....
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Get your logic out of here.0 -
If I forced myself to eat clean, I would be a binger.
I need to be allowed to drink my coffee with cream and sugar, and have pizza, and the occasional bowl of ice cream. If I need to grab a quick burger - I need the freedom to do that.
I rarely even fit my macros - the only thing I try to do is stick within my daily calorie limit and get my required protein.
When I force myself to eat "properly" I become a miserable cranky person who is much more inclined to eat an entire bag of doritos with salsa and sour cream.
When I allow myself to have some treats, I am much happier, and it works better for me.
If you are a clean eater, and happy - great job! But I don't feel it is the only way to achieve success.
p.s. I feel the need to prove visually that this method works for me, so here is a recent progress pic:
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:laugh: :laugh: Clean eaters hate when Mirey shows up in these threads. :laugh: :laugh:
It's like:
Mirey.
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It appears that I'm the poster child for bad food choices!!! haha :laugh:0 -
I don't get the concept of clean vs dirty food. My nutritionist laughs at the idea and trend. Don't be afraid of food. If I want a slice of pizza or a few pieces of chocolate or sweedish fish, I should learn how to enjoy these things without eating the whole pizza or bag of candy, etc.
She always says, there is no such thing as bad food. Some of the "clean eaters" are just as annoying as some vegans. Get off your high horse.
Aw, you said SOME vegans! You made my day!
(And I prefer the "middle path" myself when it comes to what I eat)0 -
Just a little PSA: Regarding sushi, it may be worth mentioning that the rice is made with sugar. I think that goes against Rule #1 in the clean eating handbook...
That said, I love sushi. I also love sashimi, and when I wanted to avoid sugar, I ordered sashimi. Skip the rice and you're all set.
Not to mention, if you skip the rice, you have more room for sashimi. :drinker:0 -
If you ate clean you wouldn't be so grouchy in the morning - LMAO
I think I'll stick to mainly eating clean seeing you didn't provide anything in the way of a persuasive argument not to & just attacked this so called "fad".
Is there a bigger picture? Yeah Get your *kitten* in gear & workout. But without proper nutrition & such a "whatever whenever approach" your body will suffer for it in the end. It's not brain science!
Sunglasses and a skully hat means it's time to work out for realsies.0 -
Just a little PSA: Regarding sushi, it may be worth mentioning that the rice is made with sugar. I think that goes against Rule #1 in the clean eating handbook...
That said, I love sushi. I also love sashimi, and when I wanted to avoid sugar, I ordered sashimi. Skip the rice and you're all set.
Not to mention, if you skip the rice, you have more room for sashimi. :drinker:
Sashimi is so great.0 -
To everyone here arguing about chemicals and cancer causing sweeteners ect ect ect, you're doing this:
A nutrient is a nutrient, and while some nutrients might have more minerals than others, and some fats might be saturated as opposed to unsaturated, nutrients are nutrients, and our bodies will break down what we eat into the smallest, basic components, because that's what our liver can process.
Clean or not doesn't matter.
And yes, some pesticides are harmful for you, so wash what you buy or buy organic if you think you're eating some roundup frosted chard. Otherwise..
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Thats awesome that you are healthy enough that it does not matter to you.
I, on the other hand have chronic pain and an auto immune disease. I started eating clean and my pain levels went down 50%. Now when you live with chronic pain and are very active, any reduction in pain is a win. I can not help but wonder, if not eating processed and refined foods decrease my pain levels, what are those things actually doing to people that eat them? But then again, this is my personal journey and look and feel better now than I have in freaking 10 years, and I will be 45 in August, I repeatedly get told I look 32. So to me, it is not only the smartest concept, it is the ONLY concept.0 -
Some people want to lose weight to "look good" at any cost, what ever it takes healthy or not.
but if you want to lose weight to be more "healthy" then one needs to consider everything they put in their mouths like chemicals and such that isn't going to benefit or help them reach their "healthy" goal . What good will skinny be if I am cancer waiting to happen.
Not saying I am a clean eater I only wish I had half the self control that some of you people have.0 -
Quit possibly the dumbest thread I have had the misfortune of reading.
Thread winners.
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Oh, the sanctimony!0
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if i want rice, i eat rice. if i want an apple, i eat an apple. if i want a piece of pumpkin pie, i eat a piece of pumpkin pie. i don't eat the whole pie. this is how you lose weight and get fit. you don't do it by adhering to lists of "approved" and "unapproved" foods.
There is nothing wrong with eating clean. IMO it's hard to logically argue that whole natural foods are a bad thing.
But I also don't see why the things you posted as examples are not clean, nor why amount eaten would have anything to do with whether a food is clean or not. The biggest problems with "clean eating" IMO is that it has no real definiton.0 -
Get your logic out of here.
*examines Mirey's progress
*examines Sixout's progress
...hmmmm
As for evidence...I like these two folk's thoughts on the subject:
http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-nutrition/the-dirt-on-clean-eating/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6H2edyPLU8 0 -
My diet only consists of parmesan cheese and mustard.
i you. 0 -
Just a little PSA: Regarding sushi, it may be worth mentioning that the rice is made with sugar. I think that goes against Rule #1 in the clean eating handbook...
That said, I love sushi. I also love sashimi, and when I wanted to avoid sugar, I ordered sashimi. Skip the rice and you're all set.
Like I said before...I guess it's all relative. IMHO, there's nothing wrong with sugar...sugar occurs naturally...nothing unclean about sugar IMHO. I eat all kinds of fruit...fruit has sugar. I add table sugar to my ice tea, etc. I keep it in check and make it fit my macros...but really, I don't see how sugar would be "unclean"...perhaps a crazy persons definition, but certainly not mine. Sugar is grown...I don't see the problem.0 -
Just a little PSA: Regarding sushi, it may be worth mentioning that the rice is made with sugar. I think that goes against Rule #1 in the clean eating handbook...
That said, I love sushi. I also love sashimi, and when I wanted to avoid sugar, I ordered sashimi. Skip the rice and you're all set.
Not to mention, if you skip the rice, you have more room for sashimi. :drinker:
Sashimi is so great.
Dammit, now I'm jonesing.
One Sashimi Deluxe, please...0 -
you want a cookie?
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"Eating Clean"
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Just a little PSA: Regarding sushi, it may be worth mentioning that the rice is made with sugar. I think that goes against Rule #1 in the clean eating handbook...
That said, I love sushi. I also love sashimi, and when I wanted to avoid sugar, I ordered sashimi. Skip the rice and you're all set.
Not to mention, if you skip the rice, you have more room for sashimi. :drinker:
Sashimi is so great.
Dammit, now I'm jonesing.
One Sashimi Deluxe, please...
Make that two. Extra yellowtail please.0 -
A greater range of dietary flexibility is one of the luxuries of regular training. Sedentary individuals do not have the same level of safeguarding from the potentially adverse effects of a higher proportion of indulgence foods. And just in case it wasn’t made clear enough, 10-20% indicates the maximum, not minimum discretionary allotment. If someone strives to consume 0% of calories from any food that’s been processed or refined from its original state, then that’s perfectly fine – as long as this is the person’s genuine preference, and not a painful battle of will. I’d also like to make it clear that there is still plenty of grey area in the study of dietary effects on health. As such, the nature and extent of the miscellaneous or rule-free food allotment is a delicate judgment call. In this case, it’s wise to keep scientific research at the head of the judging panel, but don’t ignore personal experience & individual feedback.
Very sensible advice and the bit in bold seems so regularly to be overlooked on here...0 -
Get your logic out of here.
*examines Mirey's progress
*examines Sixout's progress
...hmmmm
As for evidence...I like these two folk's thoughts on the subject:
http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-nutrition/the-dirt-on-clean-eating/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6H2edyPLU8
My post was in jest. I don't care what others eat. When I'm bulking or trying to put on more muscle, I eat heavier foods, oatmeal, things like that. When I'm dropping weight and doing more cardio based stuff, I eat mainly veggies and meat, stay mostly away from carbs.
I'm an equal opportunity eater.0 -
So, this isn't a thread about keeping kosher? WTF!0
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A greater range of dietary flexibility is one of the luxuries of regular training. Sedentary individuals do not have the same level of safeguarding from the potentially adverse effects of a higher proportion of indulgence foods. And just in case it wasn’t made clear enough, 10-20% indicates the maximum, not minimum discretionary allotment. If someone strives to consume 0% of calories from any food that’s been processed or refined from its original state, then that’s perfectly fine – as long as this is the person’s genuine preference, and not a painful battle of will. I’d also like to make it clear that there is still plenty of grey area in the study of dietary effects on health. As such, the nature and extent of the miscellaneous or rule-free food allotment is a delicate judgment call. In this case, it’s wise to keep scientific research at the head of the judging panel, but don’t ignore personal experience & individual feedback.
Very sensible advice and the bit in bold seems so regularly to be overlooked on here...
Yup, I think it covers all bases. I like ice cream, I'm not willing to give it up...so I eat ice cream. That doesn't mean other people HAVE to eat ice cream to get in shape or lose weight or become more healthy, just that it can be done with ice cream in the diet.0 -
I agree. While not "stupid" as different things work for everyone. I'm with the lady with the killer abs, As long as I stay within my calories, exercise an eat healthy for the most part then adding a portion of cheese popcorn and a diet coke to my day to keep me sane and from binging is a good thing as far as I'm concerned.0
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Just a little PSA: Regarding sushi, it may be worth mentioning that the rice is made with sugar. I think that goes against Rule #1 in the clean eating handbook...
That said, I love sushi. I also love sashimi, and when I wanted to avoid sugar, I ordered sashimi. Skip the rice and you're all set.
Not to mention, if you skip the rice, you have more room for sashimi. :drinker:
Sashimi is so great.
Dammit, now I'm jonesing.
One Sashimi Deluxe, please...
Sashimi won't make it past me. I usually just catch the fish and peel the scales off with my teath. That's how the cavemen did it.0 -
"Eating Clean"
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Learn what you're talking about before you admonish it.0 -
I try to eat clean, but sometimes the bread gets soggy. :sad:
HAHAHAHA I love it!! I'd totally love to eat in the shower on those "time crunch" days0 -
My diet only consists of parmesan cheese and mustard.
i you.
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