eating healthy = lame and boring ....
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I didn't say it was.
Isn't the quesadilla traditionally fried with lard, I think so. I use duck fat quite a bit for frying and the texture can't be duplicated with any regular oil imo.I just ate a gorgonzola and gingered-pear quesadilla. Delicious and healthy!
I bet it would be even more delicious fried up in lard. :drinker:
Seriously, whats with all the lard hate? Has anyone even tried it recently, its absolutely delicious, as is everything that comes from the pig (well except for maybe swine flu, but then again you cant actually taste viruses).
Hey now! I didn't diss the lard. I know it's yummy. But I don't think the quesadilla needed it...
You're telling me that this sounded like a traditional quesadilla?0 -
I didn't say it was.
Isn't the quesadilla traditionally fried with lard, I think so. I use duck fat quite a bit for frying and the texture can't be duplicated with any regular oil imo.I just ate a gorgonzola and gingered-pear quesadilla. Delicious and healthy!
I bet it would be even more delicious fried up in lard. :drinker:
Seriously, whats with all the lard hate? Has anyone even tried it recently, its absolutely delicious, as is everything that comes from the pig (well except for maybe swine flu, but then again you cant actually taste viruses).
Hey now! I didn't diss the lard. I know it's yummy. But I don't think the quesadilla needed it...
You're telling me that this sounded like a traditional quesadilla?
Are we fighting?0 -
I didn't say it was.
Isn't the quesadilla traditionally fried with lard, I think so. I use duck fat quite a bit for frying and the texture can't be duplicated with any regular oil imo.I just ate a gorgonzola and gingered-pear quesadilla. Delicious and healthy!
I bet it would be even more delicious fried up in lard. :drinker:
Seriously, whats with all the lard hate? Has anyone even tried it recently, its absolutely delicious, as is everything that comes from the pig (well except for maybe swine flu, but then again you cant actually taste viruses).
Hey now! I didn't diss the lard. I know it's yummy. But I don't think the quesadilla needed it...
You're telling me that this sounded like a traditional quesadilla?
Are we fighting?
I think you guys are actually right, duck fat is the way to go. It would pair well with pears.0 -
I was referring more to the burger/fries type of fast food. True, there are healthy options at Subway but good luck finding options anywhere that isn't loaded with sodium..
So, what are the negative effects of sodium? Does this occur once you have consumed over the RDA, or does it happen sooner? I don't have any health issues related to sodium, if I consume too much today will it cause problems a year from now? What is "too much" sodium? What if I completely cut out sodium, like zero, would that be healthy?0 -
I'm sorry. I couldn't help myself.
ohhh busted...see, at least I am a good sport about it ..
and I meant lets not go three ...as in lets not go at each other three times...0 -
I just ate a gorgonzola and gingered-pear quesadilla. Delicious and healthy!
I bet it would be even more delicious fried up in lard. :drinker:
Seriously, whats with all the lard hate? Has anyone even tried it recently, its absolutely delicious, as is everything that comes from the pig (well except for maybe swine flu, but then again you cant actually taste viruses).
i would rather just deep fry lard and eat that....
screw all that fancy quesadilla ginger pear gorgonzola crap....0 -
It's called seasonings, spices & naturally flavorful foods.0
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It's called seasonings, spices & naturally flavorful foods.
SSNFF. sounds good.
but SSNFF+L is beter.
*L=Lard.0 -
It's called seasonings, spices & naturally flavorful foods.
bla bla bla bla ...0 -
I was referring more to the burger/fries type of fast food. True, there are healthy options at Subway but good luck finding options anywhere that isn't loaded with sodium..
So, what are the negative effects of sodium? Does this occur once you have consumed over the RDA, or does it happen sooner? I don't have any health issues related to sodium, if I consume too much today will it cause problems a year from now? What is "too much" sodium? What if I completely cut out sodium, like zero, would that be healthy?
give it a test and eat a big mac three times a day for four to six weeks and go get worked up by your DR and see what the before and after is...0 -
Think of it this way .... eating exciting = now I'm fat
So believe me when I say that I would eat plain chicken and salad and hard boiled eggs for as long as it takes to not be fat cause that is where the real excitement is ...... I'll worry about how bland my diet it when I get to maintenance which from the looks of it, you are already there.0 -
I was referring more to the burger/fries type of fast food. True, there are healthy options at Subway but good luck finding options anywhere that isn't loaded with sodium..
So, what are the negative effects of sodium? Does this occur once you have consumed over the RDA, or does it happen sooner? I don't have any health issues related to sodium, if I consume too much today will it cause problems a year from now? What is "too much" sodium? What if I completely cut out sodium, like zero, would that be healthy?
give it a test and eat a big mac three times a day for four to six weeks and go get worked up by your DR and see what the before and after is...
Supersize Me!0 -
What about the ones that survive on protein shakes and vitamins? 800 calories a day should be showing a bit of a weight loss, but it's miserable.
I like Potatoes and Carrots.... Bacon.... Pizza... Ice Cream.... You know REAL FOOD!!0 -
I mean come on who wants to each just plain fish, plain grilled chicken, plain rice, just vegetables...vegetables all the freaking time, really? Ughhhhhhhh good lord that is so lame and boring. Give me a tub of fried chicken, mashed potatoes, and some freaking apple pie every single night, and I will be set. How do some of your people stick to such lame and boring foods day after day ..ughhh ..are you all like a bunch of zombies or something...????
mmm....healthy braiiiiiiinnnns...0 -
A couple of interesting documentaries for the 'skeptics':
Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1227378/?ref_=sr_1)
Supersize Me (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0390521/?ref_=sr_2)
As far as Macros go, I'm not 100% certain what they are other than a division of protein, carbs and fats intake based on your goals (i.e. 40%/30%/30%). Here is a link for more information:
http://www.freedieting.com/tools/nutrient_calculator.htm
The site states that:Do Macro-Nutrients Matter?
There is a difference of opinion on this. Some feel that only calories count, whilst others argue that distribution of nutrients is what is important.
However, evidence would suggest that the health of a person is affected if too many calories are coming from bad fats or refined carbs. This is the premise behind Gary Taubes' book, Good Calories, Bad Calories.
The reality is - you must find what works for you - and to do this you have to start somewhere! If it doesn't work - try something else.
Tom Venuto's ebook Burn The Fat has a considerable section about macro nutrient ratios and calories. His opinion is that extremes (such as very low carb, and very low fat, are only appropriate for a small section of the population).
Getting It In Context
Here's a quick look at what the gram values are for some common items: (note that we are not delving into the nutritional quality aspects here - such as sodium, calcium, breakdown of fats, ingredients etc...)
Carbohydrate Protein Fat
McDonalds Big Mac & Large Fries 116g 31g 55g
1 Slice of Super Supreme Pizza from Pizza Hutt 28g 13g 17g
4oz (113g) skinless boneless chicken breast,
1 cup brown rice (cooked), 1 cup broccoli 43g 38g 5.5g
The fat in a Big Mac and Fries can contain enough fat for an entire days intake!
The bottom line is to make sure your nutrient ratios are promoting the desired weight loss and having a positive effect on your overall health.
Furthermore, there are a variety of 'lifestyles' that recommend what that distribution should be (Moderate, Moderate II, Zone, Low Carb, Very Low Carb).
Here's a study regarding the long-term effects of high sodium intake: http://www.bmj.com/content/334/7599/885
However, too little sodium isn't all that hot either: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/low-blood-sodium/AN00621
Basically, too little sodium contributes to and/or even encourages water intoxication and water poisoning (among other things). Doesn't sound too awesome to me...
Then of course, there is the highly faddish paleo-diet: http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/paleo-diet
Cooking and 'healthy eating' is a state of mind. If you don't want to put effort into what you consume, you reap what you sow. However, to be fair, my husband does 90% of the cooking in the house. There are numerous sites that offer 'the bestest low-XXX (fill in the blank) recipe EVER'. However, frankly, I don't have the gourmet kitchen to house the expensive organics, gadgets, or personal chef (don't count hubby, please) to live the 'ultimate lifestyle'. Neither do I live in a place large enough to have hippie-dippie-yuppie grocery stores. I do what I can with what I have and have learned to be contented with being informed and making the best choices I have available to me. Of course, just take a look at my goals and you'll see that I've got a LONG way to go... no preaching to the choir here; merely attempting to offer resources/studies/etc. to assist in the education of those requesting the information. :flowerforyou:
Oh, and I do eat sweets; I've found great substitutions or am learning to indulge my inner Cookie-Monster and NOT eat an entire box of Oreos. I love pizza; just working on not eating an entire pie (which I could easily do - any crust, just load it with cheese and meat, but mostly gooey cheese).
Panko is great if you want to substitute 'fried' with 'baked' chicken. It's crispy and give the consistency of fried with less of the 'bad' (but don't you WANT to be bad... at least SOMETIMES?)
Even Alton Brown's 'fish and chips' (when done properly) utilizes almost no oil when done (meaning the food isn't greasy): http://www.foodnetwork.com/videos/altons-chips-and-fish-recipe/82403.html
It's all about preparation, Baby, and what you want out of your consumption to make you the happiest, healthiest and most content. Anything else is hype. Listen to your body; it will tell you what it needs and what it doesn't.
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I was referring more to the burger/fries type of fast food. True, there are healthy options at Subway but good luck finding options anywhere that isn't loaded with sodium..
So, what are the negative effects of sodium? Does this occur once you have consumed over the RDA, or does it happen sooner? I don't have any health issues related to sodium, if I consume too much today will it cause problems a year from now? What is "too much" sodium? What if I completely cut out sodium, like zero, would that be healthy?
give it a test and eat a big mac three times a day for four to six weeks and go get worked up by your DR and see what the before and after is...
Supersize Me!
no that was big mac + fries + drink <
like he says in the movie, the fries and the drink are the worst parts.
the other point is he didn't try to maintain, he made himself finish meals rather than stopping when he was hungry.
probably it was the fries that messed him up. not so much the burger.
maybe you are referring to don gorske.
dude eats 2-3 big macs a day, for the last 39 years.
Despite his obsession Gorske says he has been given a clean bill of health by his doctor and takes regular exercise.
Unsurprisingly medical experts do not recommend the Gorske diet. Tara Gidus, a registered dietitian in Florida, said Gorske probably has good genetics to thank for his health, alongside the fact that he resists the temptation to order
> fries and soft drinks with his burger.0 -
I was referring more to the burger/fries type of fast food. True, there are healthy options at Subway but good luck finding options anywhere that isn't loaded with sodium..
So, what are the negative effects of sodium? Does this occur once you have consumed over the RDA, or does it happen sooner? I don't have any health issues related to sodium, if I consume too much today will it cause problems a year from now? What is "too much" sodium? What if I completely cut out sodium, like zero, would that be healthy?
give it a test and eat a big mac three times a day for four to six weeks and go get worked up by your DR and see what the before and after is...
Why a Big Mac instead of, say, a double meat turkey sub on wheat loaded with veggies?
Why the exact same food 3 times a day?
Why ignore macro and calorie goals?0 -
give it a test and eat a big mac three times a day for four to six weeks and go get worked up by your DR and see what the before and after is...
Why a Big Mac instead of, say, a double meat turkey sub on wheat loaded with veggies?
Why the exact same food 3 times a day?
Why ignore macro and calorie goals?
Great questions. If what you're doing is working for you, FANTASTIC! Everyone is different/unique; it would stand to reason (even with my faulty/fuzzy logic) that our consumption should be as individualistic as the individual doing the gnoshing. :glasses:0 -
give it a test and eat a big mac three times a day for four to six weeks and go get worked up by your DR and see what the before and after is...
Why a Big Mac instead of, say, a double meat turkey sub on wheat loaded with veggies?
Why the exact same food 3 times a day?
Why ignore macro and calorie goals?
Great questions. If what you're doing is working for you, FANTASTIC! Everyone is different/unique; it would stand to reason (even with my faulty/fuzzy logic) that our consumption should be as individualistic as the individual doing the gnoshing. :glasses:
translation: live and let live broskis.
high 5's all round.0 -
Ain't nothing boring about my homemade barbecue chicken with smashed rosemary-roasted baby red potatoes and the best damn green beans you've ever eaten (blanched, fried in evoo with salt and almond slices and scallions).
Or Mexican fried rice with grilled fish tacos & black bean/corn salsa or mango salsa!
Or baked black beans and rice with cilantro & tomatoes (don't hate on my rice & beans now, lol).
Or giant-*kitten* salads that you can put a million different things on. My favorite toppings: egg, grilled chicken, walnuts/almonds, avocado, tomato, carrot, cucumber, strawberries, dried apricots, tuna or chicken salad (it makes it a salad-ception and I get an uncanny amount of pleasure from eating salad on my salad). My favorite dressings: raspberry vinaigrette, olive oil & salt with some fresh lemon juice, regular balsamic vinaigrette, jalapeno ranch, toasted sesame. Bam, like 100 salad ideas right there.
Penne pasta sauteed with basil and spinach and feta and tomatoes with olive oil and balsamic vinegar.
Pita pockets stuffed with hummus, cucumber, lettuce, feta, falafel.
Oven-roasted salmon with wild rice pilaf and broccoli.
Steak. Salad. Roasted carrots or sweet potato.
Anyway, I think you might be doing this "healthy eating" thing wrong. Nothing boring about my dinners, lol!
Lunches and breakfasts were boring before, so the only thing that changed there is that I eat hot cereal or eggs instead of cold cereal for breakfast, and my sandwiches or leftovers are better thought-out. Also there is nothing wrong with having fried chicken and mashed potatoes every week. Probably not every night, though.
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I actually felt a little ill looking at a picture of a pop tart smashed between ice cream/gelatto/whatever. All I could think was how much time I'd spend on the toilet suffering after eating that. The curse of IBS. Also, fried chicken is awful. I like it, but..... no, it's not worth it. And putting the IBS aside, I just don't understand how fried chicken or pop-tarts could be more appetizing than grilled salmon or steak with spinach and berries, some avocado, and maybe part of a dark chocolate bar later. Or possibly some Chobani lite raspberry yogurt with dark chocolate bits in it. But, now, a tub of fried chicken and pop tarts are definitely quicker and more convenient, I won't fight that point at all.0
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:smooched: mmmm FOOD PORN 0 -
I was referring more to the burger/fries type of fast food. True, there are healthy options at Subway but good luck finding options anywhere that isn't loaded with sodium..
So, what are the negative effects of sodium? Does this occur once you have consumed over the RDA, or does it happen sooner? I don't have any health issues related to sodium, if I consume too much today will it cause problems a year from now? What is "too much" sodium? What if I completely cut out sodium, like zero, would that be healthy?
give it a test and eat a big mac three times a day for four to six weeks and go get worked up by your DR and see what the before and after is...
Why a Big Mac instead of, say, a double meat turkey sub on wheat loaded with veggies?
Why the exact same food 3 times a day?
Why ignore macro and calorie goals?
the original post referred to burgers and fries..so that is why! Dugh ..smacks forehead...0 -
Ain't nothing boring about my homemade barbecue chicken with smashed rosemary-roasted baby red potatoes and the best damn green beans you've ever eaten (blanched, fried in evoo with salt and almond slices and scallions).
Or Mexican fried rice with grilled fish tacos & black bean/corn salsa or mango salsa!
Or baked black beans and rice with cilantro & tomatoes (don't hate on my rice & beans now, lol).
Or giant-*kitten* salads that you can put a million different things on. My favorite toppings: egg, grilled chicken, walnuts/almonds, avocado, tomato, carrot, cucumber, strawberries, dried apricots, tuna or chicken salad (it makes it a salad-ception and I get an uncanny amount of pleasure from eating salad on my salad). My favorite dressings: raspberry vinaigrette, olive oil & salt with some fresh lemon juice, regular balsamic vinaigrette, jalapeno ranch, toasted sesame. Bam, like 100 salad ideas right there.
Penne pasta sauteed with basil and spinach and feta and tomatoes with olive oil and balsamic vinegar.
Pita pockets stuffed with hummus, cucumber, lettuce, feta, falafel.
Oven-roasted salmon with wild rice pilaf and broccoli.
Steak. Salad. Roasted carrots or sweet potato.
Anyway, I think you might be doing this "healthy eating" thing wrong. Nothing boring about my dinners, lol!
Lunches and breakfasts were boring before, so the only thing that changed there is that I eat hot cereal or eggs instead of cold cereal for breakfast, and my sandwiches or leftovers are better thought-out. Also there is nothing wrong with having fried chicken and mashed potatoes every week. Probably not every night, though.
this list made me dry heave...0 -
I mean come on who wants to each just plain fish, plain grilled chicken, plain rice, just vegetables...vegetables all the freaking time, really? Ughhhhhhhh good lord that is so lame and boring. Give me a tub of fried chicken, mashed potatoes, and some freaking apple pie every single night, and I will be set. How do some of your people stick to such lame and boring foods day after day ..ughhh ..are you all like a bunch of zombies or something...????
Dumb post is dumb.
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I mean come on who wants to each just plain fish, plain grilled chicken, plain rice, just vegetables...vegetables all the freaking time, really? Ughhhhhhhh good lord that is so lame and boring. Give me a tub of fried chicken, mashed potatoes, and some freaking apple pie every single night, and I will be set. How do some of your people stick to such lame and boring foods day after day ..ughhh ..are you all like a bunch of zombies or something...????
Dumb post is dumb.
YUDRUNKBRO
I got 200+ responses out of it...must be doing something right..., right?0 -
Ain't nothing boring about my homemade barbecue chicken with smashed rosemary-roasted baby red potatoes and the best damn green beans you've ever eaten (blanched, fried in evoo with salt and almond slices and scallions).
Or Mexican fried rice with grilled fish tacos & black bean/corn salsa or mango salsa!
Or baked black beans and rice with cilantro & tomatoes (don't hate on my rice & beans now, lol).
Or giant-*kitten* salads that you can put a million different things on. My favorite toppings: egg, grilled chicken, walnuts/almonds, avocado, tomato, carrot, cucumber, strawberries, dried apricots, tuna or chicken salad (it makes it a salad-ception and I get an uncanny amount of pleasure from eating salad on my salad). My favorite dressings: raspberry vinaigrette, olive oil & salt with some fresh lemon juice, regular balsamic vinaigrette, jalapeno ranch, toasted sesame. Bam, like 100 salad ideas right there.
Penne pasta sauteed with basil and spinach and feta and tomatoes with olive oil and balsamic vinegar.
Pita pockets stuffed with hummus, cucumber, lettuce, feta, falafel.
Oven-roasted salmon with wild rice pilaf and broccoli.
Steak. Salad. Roasted carrots or sweet potato.
Anyway, I think you might be doing this "healthy eating" thing wrong. Nothing boring about my dinners, lol!
Lunches and breakfasts were boring before, so the only thing that changed there is that I eat hot cereal or eggs instead of cold cereal for breakfast, and my sandwiches or leftovers are better thought-out. Also there is nothing wrong with having fried chicken and mashed potatoes every week. Probably not every night, though.
this list made me dry heave...
Troll much?? Cause your diary looks pretty damn squeaky clean to me. Sounds like you and all the above foods get along great.
Plain IS boring, but healthy isn't. The list above sounds gorgeous to me, I'd only add in some steak and veggie fajitas, spice crusted salmon, and stuffed tilapia. The occasional boudin here and there (that's a Louisiana thing, chere, don't worry bout it). Sugar and I still have more than a nodding acquaintance, too, so throw a bit of that in, usually in the form of dark chocolate or ice cream/gelato. The last time I had fried chicken was at Mardi Gras two years ago. I don't miss it a bit, but if I did, I'd have some and move on.0 -
:smooched: mmmm FOOD PORN
I want more fried chicken porn!0 -
I was referring more to the burger/fries type of fast food. True, there are healthy options at Subway but good luck finding options anywhere that isn't loaded with sodium..
So, what are the negative effects of sodium? Does this occur once you have consumed over the RDA, or does it happen sooner? I don't have any health issues related to sodium, if I consume too much today will it cause problems a year from now? What is "too much" sodium? What if I completely cut out sodium, like zero, would that be healthy?
give it a test and eat a big mac three times a day for four to six weeks and go get worked up by your DR and see what the before and after is...
I didn't mention Big Macs. I mentioned sodium. What is too much, what are long term effects and what happens if its too low?
Dude, I know you are just trolling though, so its all good.0
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