when did boycotting cardio become the cool thing to do?
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Weights facilitate progressive overload in a way cardio exercise cannot. You can continually get stronger without building any additional muscle mass due to neuromuscular adaptation.so with that in mind, what benefits would i get from lifting weights without a special diet? Would it be more beneficial for me than the cycling and swimming that i do? Would it make me stronger without making my muscles bulk?
I'm genuinely interested as i know resistance is important, but i wondered why weights may be needed or whether weights are needed or is it enough to be using water & cycling to create lean muscle?
There is no such thing as a lean muscle.
They're one shape, and they can contract more or less intensely depending on level of stimulation and prior training, and shrink and grow proportional to their predetermined shape.
Lifting weights is about the best supplement to a swimming programme that I can think of - when you get used to moving weight out of the water that is effectively 'heavier' than the resistance of the water you'll be swimming in, swimming gets easier.0 -
There is no such thing as a lean muscle.
Why are some meats marbled with fat and some not?0 -
Would it make me stronger without making my muscles bulk?
I'm genuinely interested as i know resistance is important, but i wondered why weights may be needed or whether weights are needed or is it enough to be using water & cycling to create lean muscle?
Yes, it would make you stronger without bulking. You're training the muscle fibers you already have to be more reactive which is what makes you stronger.
As I stated earlier. My max bench increased 65lbs in four years, but I lost two pounds and 2 inches off my waist. I didn't bulk up. I didn't eat enough for my muscles to grow, and did a lot of cardio exercises.
You can greatly increase strength through lifting without "bulking".
The other thing you have going for you is you're female. It's even harder for females to "bulk" due to the lack of testosterone.0 -
Because they're on a plate waiting to be grilled.There is no such thing as a lean muscle.
Why are some meats marbled with fat and some not?
The amount of intramuscular fat is completely dependent on overall bodyfat, and will not alter their shape, other than making them look softer.
Edit; people have this weird perception that they can 'lengthen' muscles and other such weirdness, which is the usual inference of 'lean' muscle.0 -
Because they're on a plate waiting to be grilled.There is no such thing as a lean muscle.
Why are some meats marbled with fat and some not?
The amount of intramuscular fat is completely dependent on overall bodyfat, and will not alter their shape, other than making them look softer.
What does shape have to do with lean?0 -
well this thread took a turn towards the absurd and petty0
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Weights facilitate progressive overload in a way cardio exercise cannot. You can continually get stronger without building any additional muscle mass due to neuromuscular adaptation.so with that in mind, what benefits would i get from lifting weights without a special diet? Would it be more beneficial for me than the cycling and swimming that i do? Would it make me stronger without making my muscles bulk?
I'm genuinely interested as i know resistance is important, but i wondered why weights may be needed or whether weights are needed or is it enough to be using water & cycling to create lean muscle?
There is no such thing as a lean muscle.
They're one shape, and they can contract more or less intensely depending on level of stimulation and prior training, and shrink and grow proportional to their predetermined shape.
Lifting weights is about the best supplement to a swimming programme that I can think of - when you get used to moving weight out of the water that is effectively 'heavier' than the resistance of the water you'll be swimming in, swimming gets easier.
Brilliant thank you!
I think i was thinking lean as in low body fat would improve the appearance of muscle tone.
I've just bought the Brownlee Brothers book 'Swim, Bike, Run' and hope this'll be informative. Love these guys. I'll be interested to read what they do in relation to this.0 -
Would it make me stronger without making my muscles bulk?
I'm genuinely interested as i know resistance is important, but i wondered why weights may be needed or whether weights are needed or is it enough to be using water & cycling to create lean muscle?
Yes, it would make you stronger without bulking. You're training the muscle fibers you already have to be more reactive which is what makes you stronger.
As I stated earlier. My max bench increased 65lbs in four years, but I lost two pounds and 2 inches off my waist. I didn't bulk up. I didn't eat enough for my muscles to grow, and did a lot of cardio exercises.
You can greatly increase strength through lifting without "bulking".
The other thing you have going for you is you're female. It's even harder for females to "bulk" due to the lack of testosterone.
Perception of perfectly formed muscle is bulk - but actual size clearly doesn't change...yes?
Cheers for this. I wouldn't want to be particularly 'muscular' (for want of a better word) as i prefer ladies to be femininely rounded, but my swimming would no doubt benefit from something other than water resistance to create strength.0 -
Would it make me stronger without making my muscles bulk?
I'm genuinely interested as i know resistance is important, but i wondered why weights may be needed or whether weights are needed or is it enough to be using water & cycling to create lean muscle?
Yes, it would make you stronger without bulking. You're training the muscle fibers you already have to be more reactive which is what makes you stronger.
As I stated earlier. My max bench increased 65lbs in four years, but I lost two pounds and 2 inches off my waist. I didn't bulk up. I didn't eat enough for my muscles to grow, and did a lot of cardio exercises.
You can greatly increase strength through lifting without "bulking".
The other thing you have going for you is you're female. It's even harder for females to "bulk" due to the lack of testosterone.
Perception of perfectly formed muscle is bulk - but actual size clearly doesn't change...yes?
Cheers for this. I wouldn't want to be particularly 'muscular' (for want of a better word) as i prefer ladies to be femininely rounded, but my swimming would no doubt benefit from something other than water resistance to create strength.
Bingo.
What can be perceived as "big" or "bulked" is more "cut". It's not that the muscle grew, it's that there is less fat around it.0 -
Would it make me stronger without making my muscles bulk?
I'm genuinely interested as i know resistance is important, but i wondered why weights may be needed or whether weights are needed or is it enough to be using water & cycling to create lean muscle?
Yes, it would make you stronger without bulking. You're training the muscle fibers you already have to be more reactive which is what makes you stronger.
As I stated earlier. My max bench increased 65lbs in four years, but I lost two pounds and 2 inches off my waist. I didn't bulk up. I didn't eat enough for my muscles to grow, and did a lot of cardio exercises.
You can greatly increase strength through lifting without "bulking".
The other thing you have going for you is you're female. It's even harder for females to "bulk" due to the lack of testosterone.
Perception of perfectly formed muscle is bulk - but actual size clearly doesn't change...yes?
Cheers for this. I wouldn't want to be particularly 'muscular' (for want of a better word) as i prefer ladies to be femininely rounded, but my swimming would no doubt benefit from something other than water resistance to create strength.
Bingo.
What can be perceived as "big" or "bulked" is more "cut". It's not that the muscle grew, it's that there is less fat around it.
Marvellous! Well that cleared that up nicely and nobody died
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Balance is the key in all things. All of one, and not others is in my opinion not a balanced view on overall fitness..0
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Well to me...
None of you can run likely as fast as me nor as long distance as me, I can surf 8-12ft waves without issue, do as many pullups and chin ups as feel same with pushups and situps...
Do I really need weights? Not for what I do I do not...
You guys do the heavy stuff, let us surfers and ultra distance runners take on the actual challenges in life
Wow. Assuming much are we? Who knew we had some sort of athletic legend in our midst.
Considering that I use this site to maintain between two weights between on and off season mostly...
Yep, not really assuming much considering the general population of this site.... I see daily posts about people struggling or extremely proud of 5km runs... And I'm like sure.. Be proud when thats basically a warm up for god sakes
I'm not assuming much, not at all! I'm just being honest from what I see posted daily... Why the hell must I lie? To make you feel better? Why? What benefit does that have for me?
I come top usually in my age groups, must I not be proud? I win races also depending distance, can I not be proud about that? Just because some people can't does that mean I can't be happy of what I can do?
It's the same as fat people and fit/skinny people. It is perfectly acceptable for the fat people to say bad things about the one group, but DARE they say anything back and all horror breaks loose usually! Seems the same reaction here.
I'm good, and to be honest, why must I hide it? Because you do not like it? Sorry... I'm not playing this stupid game anymore, I'm sick of watching what I say but others can insult me constantly and what I do and I apparently have to accept it.
Is this for real? lol...0 -
Can anyone offer one benefit of cardio that resistance training doesn't offer?...besides being better at running, that is.0
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Can anyone offer one benefit of cardio that resistance training doesn't offer?...besides being better at running, that is.
Seriously? Ok.
Skipping rope improves my rhythm, gives me a better recovery heart rate between sets, improves my circulation, teaches me to relax as I exert, and conditions me in ways lifting doesn't. It's a perfect way to get exercise on my rest days, which helps me sleep and makes me feel like the day was well spent. And it gives me an excuse to listen to "eye of the tiger", for real or just in my head as I do double unders.
Is that too short a list? Because that's just off the top of my head. And that's just one cardio exercise.
This is the dumbest debate, ever. It's like an argument over food vs. water.0 -
Can anyone offer one benefit of cardio that resistance training doesn't offer?...besides being better at running, that is.
Seriously? Ok.
Skipping rope improves my rhythm, gives me a better recover heart rate, improves my circulation, teaches me to relax as I exert, and conditions me in ways lifting doesn't. It's a perfect way to get exercise on my rest days.
Is that too short a list? Because that's just off the top of my head.
And which one of those is cardio specific?0 -
Can anyone offer one benefit of cardio that resistance training doesn't offer?...besides being better at running, that is.
From what I've seen in the gym, the most popular benefit seems to be that you can read a magazine (or watch TV) while doing it. Also, some people have figured out that you if you do it just right, you can do it without breaking a sweat...which is important if you had just applied makeup.0 -
yaaaa thats they they are referred to as meatheads!cardio is for the small minded...
Small minds are for the cardio? Lol
correct, only genius level folks lift weights..this is a fact of history.0 -
Oly lifting will increase your speed and co-ordination just as effectively.Can anyone offer one benefit of cardio that resistance training doesn't offer?...besides being better at running, that is.
Seriously? Ok.
Skipping rope improves my rhythm, gives me a better recover heart rate, improves my circulation, teaches me to relax as I exert, and conditions me in ways lifting doesn't. It's a perfect way to get exercise on my rest days.
Is that too short a list? Because that's just off the top of my head.
Maximum effort exercise most certainly improves circulation, improves recovery periods and you very quickly learn that overtensioning is counterproductive to a lot of lifts.
So they're not really things that are unique to cardio. Do whatever you want though, I really don't care and I don't get why this is such a big CARDIO vs LIFTING type deal.
*runs off to do mobility exercises*0 -
Can anyone offer one benefit of cardio that resistance training doesn't offer?...besides being better at running, that is.
From what I've seen in the gym, the most popular benefit seems to be that you can read a magazine (or watch TV) while doing it. Also, some people have figured out that you if you do it just right, you can do it without breaking a sweat...which is important if you had just applied makeup.
Good post! Never thought of those.0 -
The ONLY reason I do weights and strength training is to make my legs stronger to become a better runner. I couldn't care less about abs or big muscles. I run. I'm a runner. It's what I do.0
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I do plenty of Cardio because it's not a great idea to lift 2 days in a row, at least from what I've been told. Also, sometimes I just don't feel like lifting. Either way, good aerobic exercise is great for your heart :P0
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I love cardio....so if boycotting is cool. I'm very very uncool.0
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Oly lifting will increase your speed and co-ordination just as effectively.Can anyone offer one benefit of cardio that resistance training doesn't offer?...besides being better at running, that is.
Seriously? Ok.
Skipping rope improves my rhythm, gives me a better recover heart rate, improves my circulation, teaches me to relax as I exert, and conditions me in ways lifting doesn't. It's a perfect way to get exercise on my rest days.
Is that too short a list? Because that's just off the top of my head.
Maximum effort exercise most certainly improves circulation, improves recovery periods and you very quickly learn that overtensioning is counterproductive to a lot of lifts.
So they're not really things that are unique to cardio. Do whatever you want though, I really don't care and I don't get why this is such a big CARDIO vs LIFTING type deal.
*runs off to do mobility exercises*
Ummm... Yes, but lifting every day is also called overtraining. So if you also do cardio, your recovery heart rate is superior to what it will be if you just lift.
Also, I said rhythm. And relaxation during exertion. I didn't even mention coordination. Are you doing prancercise squats or something?
I like to do something every day, and learned the hard way that lifting every day is not smart. Lift, skip, lift, skip, lift, lift, skip. That's what I call a week. Of course, I also skip a bit on the lift days. And if I can get to a pool, I like to do some sprints. Because I'm a thinking man, I guess.
Dumbest. Debate. Ever. This is about as meaningless as the dumb *kitten* talk about which style of martial art is superior, when you could be training.
If you don't do both strength and cardio, you will never be all you can be. Get over it and get to work.0 -
You people are arguing which type of exercise YOU do, and which YOU think is best. To answer the OP questions, the reason people "boycott" cardio is because there is ZERO benefit that is exclusive to cardio. Any benefit that cardio offers, resistance training offers, and more.
Runners are going to run, and lifters are going to lift. For the people that want to look/feel good, in the shortest amount of time, there is no reason to do cardio.0 -
You people are arguing which type of exercise YOU do, and which YOU think is best. To answer the OP questions, the reason people "boycott" cardio is because there is ZERO benefit that is exclusive to cardio. Any benefit that cardio offers, resistance training offers, and more.
Runners are going to run, and lifters are going to lift. For the people that want to look/feel good, in the shortest amount of time, there is no reason to do cardio.
And for people into more than just looking pretty, it's essential.0 -
Well no, not really.You people are arguing which type of exercise YOU do, and which YOU think is best. To answer the OP questions, the reason people "boycott" cardio is because there is ZERO benefit that is exclusive to cardio. Any benefit that cardio offers, resistance training offers, and more.
Runners are going to run, and lifters are going to lift. For the people that want to look/feel good, in the shortest amount of time, there is no reason to do cardio.
And for people into more than just looking pretty, it's essential.0 -
Well no, not really.You people are arguing which type of exercise YOU do, and which YOU think is best. To answer the OP questions, the reason people "boycott" cardio is because there is ZERO benefit that is exclusive to cardio. Any benefit that cardio offers, resistance training offers, and more.
Runners are going to run, and lifters are going to lift. For the people that want to look/feel good, in the shortest amount of time, there is no reason to do cardio.
And for people into more than just looking pretty, it's essential.
Yeah, I can see you disprove my point, so I take it back.
Why is this dumbass false dilemma so interesting to me? Not sure, but for some reason it is. I guess it's neat to see the psychology of people who feel the world is divided into conflicting interests, rather than a buffet of things you can enjoy together.0 -
You people are arguing which type of exercise YOU do, and which YOU think is best. To answer the OP questions, the reason people "boycott" cardio is because there is ZERO benefit that is exclusive to cardio. Any benefit that cardio offers, resistance training offers, and more.
Runners are going to run, and lifters are going to lift. For the people that want to look/feel good, in the shortest amount of time, there is no reason to do cardio.
And for people into more than just looking pretty, it's essential.
Once you can offer me one benefit of steady cardio, that resistance training doesn't offer, I'll consider your argument.0 -
You people are arguing which type of exercise YOU do, and which YOU think is best. To answer the OP questions, the reason people "boycott" cardio is because there is ZERO benefit that is exclusive to cardio. Any benefit that cardio offers, resistance training offers, and more.
Runners are going to run, and lifters are going to lift. For the people that want to look/feel good, in the shortest amount of time, there is no reason to do cardio.
The only problem with that little theory is that I like to run races, I train for the races as well as to stay fit and also burn the calories - all in that order.
Lifting weights and doing no cardio wouldn't do me any good, because when it came to me wanting to run my 10k race later on in the year, I wouldn't do very well now, would I.0 -
Does a powerlifter need cardio to excel at their sport?
Yeah, I can see you disprove my point, so I take it back.
Well no, not really.You people are arguing which type of exercise YOU do, and which YOU think is best. To answer the OP questions, the reason people "boycott" cardio is because there is ZERO benefit that is exclusive to cardio. Any benefit that cardio offers, resistance training offers, and more.
Runners are going to run, and lifters are going to lift. For the people that want to look/feel good, in the shortest amount of time, there is no reason to do cardio.
And for people into more than just looking pretty, it's essential.0
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