Clean Eating DOES make a difference

Again people, this isn't the place to go and nitpick her diary or how she lost her weight. She is trying to celebrate her success and it is very douchy to detract from that and try to call her out.

Your zipper's down.

Yeah....because educating her on how its not clean eating IS douchy. About as douchy as a teacher pointing out your mistakes on a test, oh my what has this world come too..by the way it Is down.

Its not that they are being *kitten* seriously, people are too sensitive.

DAMN, read that response too damn fast.

I take back my cup AND my drank :noway:

Guess my delivery was a tiny bit *****y sorry about that.

you did great it works for you pay no attention to the negativity

It isn't negativity...

...it's clarification of an ambiguity.

Without it, people might be led to believe that OP was successful because she eschewed all "dirty" food and stuck to a strict regimen of only "clean" foods...

...which would be inaccurate. When others tried it and did not have the same results, they would be disappointed and potentially go back to their "EAT ALL TEH FOODZ!!1!eleven!1" ways...

...and that would be unfortunate...and tragic...or at least slightly sad.

^this. This was at least my motivation. Also the other alternative of attempting to eat "cleaner" and "cleaner" until nothing is being eaten. (someone on my FL is doing this right now and is seriously struggling. I'd hate for her to see this and cut MORE things out of her diet and end up tragic.)

I wonder how anybody survived thousands of years ago without Jack in the box, Burger king, McDonalds, cookies ect ect. she is just trying to stay away from those foods that is all don't be mad. everything in moderation is key we know.

Then start talking about moderation with so many of the rest of us and put your judgment down. Your posts so far are completely out of control and missing the point that has been discussed.

I like how some people just pretend that this thread isn't political (ya know, in the sense that the debate of IIFYM vs. clean eating is political on a health and fitness site). Look at the title, friends. She capitalized "does," putting emphasis on that word and thereby implying that all of those who say that it doesn't matter are *wrong*. A lovely specimen of politicized capitalization, right there. So even though this thread is in the "success stories," it clearly invites debate. Words matter, tone matters. And, you know, reading skills matter. Stop pretending that we can't engage in debate about the OP's post and consequent revelations about eating habits just because this is a success thread. :flowerforyou:

She capitalized "does," putting emphasis on that word and thereby implying that all of those who say that it doesn't matter are *wrong*. A lovely specimen of politicized capitalization, right there. So even though this thread is in the "success stories," it clearly invites debate. Words matter, tone matters.

Insightful and well put. I've only seen two posts by you, but you're already one of my favorites :laugh:

So you are combatting Darwinism? Why do you hate science?

You. I've decided, I like you.

There.

Would share pretzel burger with.

Let's not get out of control, now... this is a pretzel burger we're talking about. Maybe I could find a BOGO coupon to share.

I'm trying to decide if I could fit a Pretzel burger in diary today. I may be over my sodium.

For a mere 680 calories!!! forget the sodium lol..... drink a couple extra glass of water tomorrow... By the sounds of it. it will be worth it!!!! :drinker:

Everyone walks their own road with all their own lives and circumstances. Who cares you look great I would want to make sure I did eat a bit more protein if I were you I think you might be operating on a deficit. Im Happy for everyone who accomplishes anything ... Good luck.

Again people, this isn't the place to go and nitpick her diary or how she lost her weight. She is trying to celebrate her success and it is very douchy to detract from that and try to call her out.

Truth. So what if OP believes it's her clean eating that made a difference? I highly doubt that her intent was to intentionally deceive others. Who cares how she worded the title? This isn't a shake o thread. It's not a "my way is the only way thread". It's not a HcG thread. Give the girl a break...sweet jeebus.

For REAL!

Calorie Deficits while eating whatever = weight loss (fat, muscle, water)

Calorie Deficits + Clean Eating (with sufficient protein) = fat/water loss and muscle gain (or maintenance)


Aaaaaand..... attack! ::hides behind shield of complex carbs and lean protein:::

No attack. Do you have any credible source(s) for the bolded statement?

great job on the loss!
but how are protein bars and pop chips eating clean???
Also are you hitting you calories goal with eating this little?

this

I'm trying to decide if I could fit a Pretzel burger in diary today. I may be over my sodium.

For a mere 680 calories!!! forget the sodium lol..... drink a couple extra glass of water tomorrow... By the sounds of it. it will be worth it!!!! :drinker:

It comes with cheddar cheese sauce and cheddar slice... i nix one or the other and that is a good 100 calories off and probably 100sodium. I retain like crazy so I have to be careful. It blows but IT FITS!

So you are combatting Darwinism? Why do you hate science?

You. I've decided, I like you.

There.

Would share pretzel burger with.

Let's not get out of control, now... this is a pretzel burger we're talking about. Maybe I could find a BOGO coupon to share.

You just tickled my frugal bone.

I like how some people just pretend that this thread isn't political (ya know, in the sense that the debate of IIFYM vs. clean eating is political on a health and fitness site). Look at the title, friends. She capitalized "does," putting emphasis on that word and thereby implying that all of those who say that it doesn't matter are *wrong*. A lovely specimen of politicized capitalization, right there. So even though this thread is in the "success stories," it clearly invites debate. Words matter, tone matters. And, you know, reading skills matter. Stop pretending that we can't engage in debate about the OP's post and consequent revelations about eating habits just because this is a success thread. :flowerforyou:

Good point!
BTW, I do come to this site for support, but I also come to get accurate information. If I just wanted support, I wouldn't necessarily have to go to a "fitness" site. What is the good of mfp if it doesn't provide said info.?

What you posted isn't clean, by my definition.

So, I'm not sure what you are suggesting? Are you saying that you were working out and eating dirty then you cleaned up, sort of, and you lost the extra? Or are you saying with a combo of diet and exercise, you lost? Because, I have a pretty strong argument that clean or dirty, in a caloric Deficit, with exercise, you would get the same result.

^ See this is the issue I have with "clean." No one agrees on what it means and it seems to be used by many has a battering ram to attack people that don't eat "as clean" as they do. I've had friends get PMs with outright "you're gonna die" messages. It's absurd. There are about 2-3 people on here that actually promote eating fast food all the time, and funny enough it works for them. Most of the rest of us are simply saying don't beat yourself up about eating a few hundred calories a day of something you like and genuinely enjoy. I don't know why this concept is so hard for some people to wrap their heads around. It's not all or nothing. It's about a healthy diet with moderate treats and a healthy attitude towards food. It works for a lot of us. Stop hating food.

I'm trying to decide if I could fit a Pretzel burger in diary today. I may be over my sodium.

For a mere 680 calories!!! forget the sodium lol..... drink a couple extra glass of water tomorrow... By the sounds of it. it will be worth it!!!! :drinker:

It comes with cheddar cheese sauce and cheddar slice... i nix one or the other and that is a good 100 calories off and probably 100sodium. I retain like crazy so I have to be careful. It blows but IT FITS!

Confession: I did actually forgo the cheese sauce when I had mine. /hangs head in shame

I'm trying to decide if I could fit a Pretzel burger in diary today. I may be over my sodium.

For a mere 680 calories!!! forget the sodium lol..... drink a couple extra glass of water tomorrow... By the sounds of it. it will be worth it!!!! :drinker:

It comes with cheddar cheese sauce and cheddar slice... i nix one or the other and that is a good 100 calories off and probably 100sodium. I retain like crazy so I have to be careful. It blows but IT FITS!

Confession: I did actually forgo the cheese sauce when I had mine. /hangs head in shame

The cheese sauce isn't bad. 20 calories. The slice is 80.
If I add in my own blue marbled pepperjack cheese (80 calories) and nix both the sauce and cheddar slice: OMG I MAY DIE HAPPY